From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Sun Dec  3 10:10:01 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 10:10:01 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] go see Maggie Nichols tonight
Message-ID: <253b88e9bceebee6a2a945e17a83b0db@balancepointacoustics.com>

If you missed the Mills gig last night, you really missed something 
great. It was easily the strongest concert I have seen in recent 
memory. Joelle, Maggie Nichols and George Lewis were just incredible 
the whole time. Even the theatrics were focused, all the interaction 
was on such a high level, it was also the most viturostic I have heard 
Joelle  play just in terms of technically  difficult bass playing.  The 
three of them had worked together at least as early as 1986, when they 
recorded a quintet with Irene Schwiezer and Gunter Sommer. I wouldn't 
miss tonight with our own PG replacing George Lewis at the community 
music center on Capp st. in sf.



damon smith
http://www.balancepointacoustics.com
http://myspace.com/smithdamon

Just released:
bpa009 "sperrgut" birgit ulher/damon smith/martin blume
bpa 010 "cruxes"  aurora josephson/joelle leandre/damon smith/martin 
blume
bpa 011 "sextesense" john butcher/aaron bennett/henry kaiser/danielle 
degruttola/damon smith/jerome bryerton


From aurorarising at hotmail.com  Sun Dec  3 23:19:41 2006
From: aurorarising at hotmail.com (~ Aurora ~)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:19:41 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
Message-ID: <BAY124-W528883480CB3E4CF4DBA30DDDF0@phx.gbl>


November 17, 2006
Sword & Sandal/Walter-Smith-Miller-Winant/Allbee-Baker-Josephson
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.17.06.htm
 
November 16, 2006
HOWL 50th Anniversary Celebration
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.16.06.htm
 
November 15, 2006
Newton/Leandre/Wessel
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.15.06.htm
 
Aurora Josephson
http://www.aurorarising.com
 
 
 

From letucepry at yahoo.com  Sun Dec  3 23:55:37 2006
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:55:37 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
Message-ID: <20061204075538.39240.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com>

not to downplay the music or anything, but WHAT EXACTLY is Kimrick DOING?????

----- Original Message ----
From: ~ Aurora ~ <aurorarising at hotmail.com>
To: "ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu" <ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 12:19:41 AM
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures


November 17, 2006
Sword & Sandal/Walter-Smith-Miller-Winant/Allbee-Baker-Josephson
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.17.06.htm

November 16, 2006
HOWL 50th Anniversary Celebration
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.16.06.htm

November 15, 2006
Newton/Leandre/Wessel
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.15.06.htm

Aurora Josephson
http://www.aurorarising.com



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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Sun Dec  3 23:59:18 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon)
Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2006 23:59:18 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
In-Reply-To: <20061204075538.39240.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20061204075538.39240.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1db1de45ac51c9bb7b7f019470f58d73@balancepointacoustics.com>

I think that is just  generally a good question and not at all specific  
to these photos.

Damon

On Dec 3, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Ron Lettuce wrote:

> not to downplay the music or anything, but WHAT EXACTLY is Kimrick  
> DOING?????
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: ~ Aurora ~ <aurorarising at hotmail.com>
> To: "ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu" <ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu>
> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 12:19:41 AM
> Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
>
>
> November 17, 2006
> Sword & Sandal/Walter-Smith-Miller-Winant/Allbee-Baker-Josephson
> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.17.06.htm
>
> November 16, 2006
> HOWL 50th Anniversary Celebration
> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.16.06.htm
>
> November 15, 2006
> Newton/Leandre/Wessel
> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.15.06.htm
>
> Aurora Josephson
> http://www.aurorarising.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________ 
> _____________
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>


From aanz at mindspring.com  Mon Dec  4 11:06:09 2006
From: aanz at mindspring.com (Alan Anzalone)
Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 11:06:09 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
In-Reply-To: <1db1de45ac51c9bb7b7f019470f58d73@balancepointacoustics.com>
References: <20061204075538.39240.qmail@web50303.mail.yahoo.com>
	<1db1de45ac51c9bb7b7f019470f58d73@balancepointacoustics.com>
Message-ID: <0D90A89F-06A0-439C-9230-379C0A624202@mindspring.com>

Exactly!

Alan Anzalone
aanz at mindspring.com



On Dec 3, 2006, at 11:59 PM, damon wrote:

> I think that is just  generally a good question and not at all  
> specific
> to these photos.
>
> Damon
>
> On Dec 3, 2006, at 11:55 PM, Ron Lettuce wrote:
>
>> not to downplay the music or anything, but WHAT EXACTLY is Kimrick
>> DOING?????
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: ~ Aurora ~ <aurorarising at hotmail.com>
>> To: "ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu" <ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu>
>> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 12:19:41 AM
>> Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures
>>
>>
>> November 17, 2006
>> Sword & Sandal/Walter-Smith-Miller-Winant/Allbee-Baker-Josephson
>> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.17.06.htm
>>
>> November 16, 2006
>> HOWL 50th Anniversary Celebration
>> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.16.06.htm
>>
>> November 15, 2006
>> Newton/Leandre/Wessel
>> http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.15.06.htm
>>
>> Aurora Josephson
>> http://www.aurorarising.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>>
>>
>> _____________________________________________________________________ 
>> __
>> _____________
>> Have a burning question?
>> Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who  
>> know.
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>>
>
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From 21grand at 21grand.org  Mon Dec  4 11:23:00 2006
From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 11:23:00 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic]  Pictures
Message-ID: <C199B594.164D6%21grand@21grand.org>

not to downplay the music or anything, but WHAT EXACTLY is Kimrick
DOING?????

- graffiti removal - extended techniques

sl

----- Original Message ----
From: ~ Aurora ~ <aurorarising at hotmail.com>
To: "ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu" <ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu>
Sent: Monday, December 4, 2006 12:19:41 AM
Subject: [NewMusic] Pictures


November 17, 2006
Sword & Sandal/Walter-Smith-Miller-Winant/Allbee-Baker-Josephson
http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/11.17.06.htm


From grobair at emusician.com  Mon Dec  4 13:54:41 2006
From: grobair at emusician.com (Robair, Gino)
Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:54:41 -0600
Subject: [NewMusic] Warped Canon: (file under Tuning)
Message-ID: <C199F541.152B%grobair@emusician.com>

Not sure if this has been posted here or not yet. Steve Lew forwarded this
link to me: it offers Pachebel's Canon played in a variety of tunings, some
of which are seriously whacked. (Check out the non-octave and Blackjack
scales.) 

http://www.io.com/~hmiller/music/warped-canon.html



From windrag at earthlink.net  Tue Dec  5 08:58:13 2006
From: windrag at earthlink.net (Ryk Groetchen)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 08:58:13 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Kyle Bruckmann: Purposeful Discontent
Message-ID: <5B1B0BF9-50FF-4BDC-8EEA-6F73165AE6A8@earthlink.net>

Kyle Bruckmann: Purposeful Discontent
By James Taylor
from All About Jazz

http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=23732



From praemedia at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  5 10:07:47 2006
From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 10:07:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] Anarchy in the www
Message-ID: <20061205180748.2813.qmail@web51615.mail.yahoo.com>

Like a little mohawk for your nano:

http://www.downloadpunk.com/

cheers.

lance



 
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From weaselw at juno.com  Tue Dec  5 11:02:46 2006
From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 19:02:46 GMT
Subject: [NewMusic] the spoils of war
Message-ID: <20061205.110330.4252.1612208@webmail49.lax.untd.com>

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From moestaiano1 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  5 12:51:32 2006
From: moestaiano1 at yahoo.com (Moe! Staiano)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 12:51:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] Cellist needed
Message-ID: <869700.85165.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

Hi!

I got a message from Kris Force, the violinist from Amber Asylum/Swans/Neurosis/etc. She is in need of a cello player and is needed by this Thursday. If interested, please email me off list if interested. Below is her message to me. Thanks.
   
  Message:
   
  Hi Moe - 

I was wondering if you know of a cellist who might be available for a recording session in the East Bay Thursday or Friday this week? It's for Mike Morasky of Steel Pole Bath Tub. It is for a viseop game score. Pays 50.00 per hour, 2 or 3 hours. 

Thanks, 
Kris Force 


 
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From jfheule at gmail.com  Tue Dec  5 13:20:25 2006
From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 13:20:25 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Breakthrough in Grey Room playlists: 2006 Nov 22 & 29
Message-ID: <9c5cfa860612051320n760c8b06h6fc767b89cced156@mail.gmail.com>

This week's show is tonight, 11:59pm-3am (Tue. night/Wed. morning).
90.3 FM San Francisco
or online: http://heule.us/breakthrough/ (click "Online Broadcast")


Playlists from the last 2 shows:

2006 Nov 22

Andy Moor, Thomas Lehn & John Butcher, "Imperfect Vehicle," Thermal
[Unsounds, 2003]
AMM, "Generative Theme III," Generative Themes [Matchless, 1983]
Anthony Braxton, "Composition 8F (dedicated to Cecil Taylor)," For
Alto [Delmark, 1971]

Crazy Backwards Alphabet, "Ghosts," Crazy Backwards Alphabet [SST, 1987]
The Flying Luttenbachers, "The Necessary Impossibility of
Determinism," Destroy All Music [ugExplode, 1995]
Darkthrone, "As Flittermice As Satans Spys," Transilvanian Hunger
[Peaceville, 1994]

Damion Romero, Idle [P Tapes]
Yellowcake, "Definitive and Subject to Change," Yellowcake [Rastascan, 2006]

The Pink Canoes, "A Turtle," Why do you think it's shaped this way?
[self-released, 2006]
Tarantism, "Crabber Relaxer," untitled 3" [self-released]
The Residents, "The Walrus Hunt," Eskimo [Ralph/Cryptic, 1979]
Loachfillet, "Garbage Rep...," Cut Throat Rogues [Fish Pies, 2006]
William S. Burroughs, "Inflexible Authroity," Call Me Burroughs
[English Bookshop, 1965]

Christian Wolff (performed by Sally Pinkas), "Prelude 2," Bread and
Roses: Piano Works 1976-83 [Mode, 1995]
Iannis Xenakis, "Kyania," Orchestral Works, Vol. 3 [Timpani, 2002]

David Behrman with Gordon Mumma, "Players with Circuits," various ?
The Wire: 20 Years (1982-2002) [Mute, 2002]

Salvatore Sciarrino, "Let Me Die Before I Wake," Exploration of White
[Stradivarius, 1999]
Kipple, "The Cull-Spiracy Man Infests," Flashes of Irrational
Happiness [Evander, 2006]
Terry Day, "Soprano 1 & 2," Interruptions [Emanem, 2006]
Perez Prado, "Lupita," Lo Mejor de Perez Prado [Sony, 2001]
Nai Htaw Paing Ensemble, "Dosa Kyam - The King Crocodile's Anger," Mon
Music of Burma [Fire Museum, 2006]

Albert Ayler, "Ghost," L?rrach, Paris 1966 [Hat Hut, 1990]
Ornette Coleman, "Science Fiction," Science Fiction [1972 / Sony, 2000]
Charles Mingus, "Opening Speech" & "Meditation on Inner Peace," Music
Written for Monterey, 1965. Not Heard ? Played in Its Entirety, at
UCLA [Sue Mingus, 2006]

Khan Jamal Creative Arts Ensemble, "Drum Dance to the Motherland,"
Drum Dance to the Motherland [Eremite, 2006]

Art Ensemble of Chicago, "Song for Charles," Non-Cognitive Aspects of
the City: Live at Iridium [Pi, 2006]


2006 Nov 29

Jesse Zubot, "Cognitive Decline," "Isolation," & "Semantically Lost,"
Dementia [Drip Audio, 2006]
Francois Houle, "Pour Sidney," & "Broken Promises," Aerials [Drip Audio, 2006]
Henry Kuntz, "Ten Names of Peace: Earth, Fire," Wayang Saxophony
Shadow Saxophone [Humming Bird, 2006]

Fuchs/Lindsay/Smith/Baghdassarians/Baltschun, "Ma(r)ker #10," The
Happymakers [Balance Point Acoustics, 2004]
Fine/Corringham/Gilett/Seru, "The Unswerving Punctuality of Chance,"
Senilita [Emanem, 2006]

John Bischoff, "Rondo," various - Femme Toupee Issue 2 [self-released, 2006]
David Slusser, "Delight at the End of the Tunnel," Delight at the End
of the Tunnel [Tzadik, 1997]

Gerritt, #6, Space Level Blaze [Misanthropic Agenda, 2006]
Merzbow & John Wiese, "Free Piano," Free Piano 7" [Misanthropic Agenda, 2006]
Tralphaz, "The Wake," various - California [Troniks/Ground Fault/RRR, 2006]
Fe-Mail, "They Look As Innocent As Newborn Lambs, The Sick Fucks,"
various - Women Take Back the Noise [Ubuibi, 2006]

Tim Hecker, "Whitecaps of White Noise II," Harmony in Ultraviolet [Kranky, 2006]
Sunn o))) & Boris, "Akuma No Kuma," Altar [Southern Lord, 2006]
Om, "Flight of the Eagle," Conference of the Birds [Holy Mountain, 2006]

Burmese, "Headmaster," Men [Load, 2004]
Melvins, "Night Goat," Houdini [Atlantic, 1993]
Captain Beefheart & the Magic Band, "Nowadays a Woman's Gotta Hit a
Man," Clear Spot [Reprise, 1972]
Charles Mingus, "Don't Be Afraid, The Clown's Afraid Too," Music
Written for Monterey, 1965. Not Heard ? Played in Its Entirety, at
UCLA [Sue Mingus, 2006]
Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra, "Out to Lunch," Out to Lunch [Doubt, 2006]

Som Imaginario, "Hey, Man," Som Imaginario [Rev-Ola, 2006]
Ananda Shankar, "Dancing Drums," various - Sitar Beat [Guerilla Reissues, 2006]
Nai Htaw Paing Ensemble, "Day Sa Midum," Mon Music of Burma [Fire Museum, 2006]
Eastern Fox Squirrels, "How Would We Know If A Squirrel Was Crazy?,"
Eastern Fox Squirrels [Last Visible Dog, 2006]

Expo 70, "Matroshka Experiment," Surfaces [Kill Shaman, 2006]
The Flying Luttenbachers, "Movement Four of L'Ascension," Cataclysm
[ugExplode, 2006]


http://heule.us/breakthrough/

From charity.chan at gmail.com  Tue Dec  5 15:32:56 2006
From: charity.chan at gmail.com (Charity Chan)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 15:32:56 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Gig Spam, my apologies,
	but couldn't get it onto Transbay?! Funny Internet connection/email
	on my part!
Message-ID: <9D704248-A2DC-4A40-AFCC-02CE103E7A65@gmail.com>

Sorry everyone...

Exceptional circumstance? My email and internet have been very  
strange, and so I couldn't get it onto Transbay...?!  My fault (I'm  
sure, dreadful with a computer), and so please accept my truly  
sincere apologies and promises that this  will not happen again.

However, I did want everyone to know, that I a very good friend of  
mine is joining me and several other musicians on tour this week and  
next, and he will be playing in oakland.  He's an exceptional  
improviser, a wonderful person, and so I thought it would be good to  
give everyone a heads up!

There will be a concert taking place at 1510 8th Street this Thursday  
(Dec. 7th) at 8:00pm.  It's the second evening of the Ostitis Mediya  
Tour of the Pacific Northwest.  Tix are $5-10 sliding scale.  The  
description... (long one) is included below!

Merci for understanding!

Charity

An evening of improvised and contemporary new music, featuring:

Gino Robair
Damon Smith
Charity Chan
Scott Thomson (guest artist from AIM Toronto)
Jordan Glenn
Noah Phillips
Corey Wright
Aram Shelton
Andy Strain

This is the second evening of the Ostitis Mediya Tour of the Pacific  
Northwest (The Three Pipes: Noah Phillips, Jordan Glenn, Charity Chan  
w/ guest Scott Thomson of AIM Toronto)

Charity Chan:
While Charity's creative work concentrates itself in the area of  
contemporary improvisation (extended piano), she has also worked and  
studied extensively in the classical and contemporary classical idioms.
Having earned a Bachelor of Music degree (piano) from McGill  
University (Montreal, QC), she is currently working on a Master of  
Fine Arts from Mills College in contemporary improvisation.  There,  
her primary instructors are Fred Frith and Joelle Leandre.  At  
McGill, she worked primarily with Lori Freedman, Tom Plaunt, and Sara  
Laimon.  Prior to that, she studied with Jesse Stewart, Heather  
Toews, and the Penderecki String Quartet. She has also participated  
in workshops/masterclasses with: Jean Derome, Malcolm Goldstein, The  
Sun Ra Arkestra, Joe McPhee, and John Heward.
She has performed in Canada (Montreal, Toronto, and Guelph), and in  
California (USA).  Charity has performed/played with: Kris Covlin,  
Remy Belanger de Beauport, Gordon Allen, Scott Thompson,  Philemon  
Girouard, Sam Shalabi, and John Heward.  As well, she was the  
organizer for the inaugural "Free Improvisation Series" at McGill  
University (2005-06) and her constructed interdisciplinary  
improvisation "The Global Warming Project" (created in collaboration  
with Kris Covlin), will be performed in Montreal in 2007.   As a  
member of the trio Fenaison (Charity Chan, Remy Belanger de Beauport,  
Kris Covlin), she is an Ambiance Magnetiques recording artist and is  
also the recipient of a Canada Council Grant.
Charity's live performances focus on the evocation of alternative  
timbres from the piano and the combination of these sounds with more  
traditional performance techniques. Her improvisations are also  
informed by the immediacy of physical gesture in live performance.
Her academic research currently focuses on physical gesture,  
embodiment, and cultural memory in improvisation.  The majority of  
her research approaches music from a socio-cultural perspective.   
Charity is a member of the International Society of Improvising  
Musicians and the American Musicological Society.  Her academic work  
has been presented at the Guelph Jazz Festival Colloquium (University  
of Guelph) and at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor (Dec. 2006).

Scott Thomson: (visiting artist)
?Scott Thomson's trombone at moments practically lifted me out of my  
body.?
Carl Wilson, zoilus.com

Trombonist Scott Thomson is a key member of a new generation of  
improvising musicians living and working in Toronto.  He is a self- 
taught instrumentalist with a broad, colourful tone and a vast  
instrumental vocabulary that is indebted to, among other sources, the  
great Ellingtonian trombonists, American avant-traditionalist Roswell  
Rudd, classic European free improvising trombonists like Paul  
Rutherford and G?nter Christmann, and wind traditions from around the  
world.  In tune with these complementary legacies, Scott?s music is  
both traditional and forward-looking, and his commitment to  
collaboration and improvisation impels him to seek new contexts in  
which and new people with whom to make music.

Though he plays in several working ensembles which delve into jazz- 
based composition (Ken Aldcroft Convergence Ensemble, Geordie Haley  
Trio), collective improvisation (JOUST with John Oswald, Ronda  
Rindone?s Quorum, The Open with Kyle Brenders, Lori Freedman/Scott  
Thomson, PST with Nilan Perera & Joe Sorbara, The Woodchopper?s  
Association), and pop and rock (Friendly Rich & The Lollipop People,  
Silent Five), Scott makes ad hoc improvising ensembles a priority.   
For this reason, he has taken advantage of the opportunity to play  
with many exceptional musicians locally, nationally, and  
internationally.

Most memorably, Scott performed at the 2005 Guelph Jazz Festival with  
the marvelous octogenarian saxophonist, Marshall Allen, a fifty-year  
member and current leader of the legendary Sun Ra Arkestra.  During a  
summer 2006 tour of Britain, Scott worked extensively with  
percussionist Eddie Pr?vost, a founding member of the seminal  
improvising ensemble AMM.  He was also invited to perform with the  
London Improvisers Orchestra, which is convened by Steve Beresford  
and features the leading lights of British improvised music,  
including Evan Parker, John Butcher, Lol Coxhill, Paul Rutherford,  
and Phillip Wachsmann.  Furthermore, he performed in Yorkshire with  
electronics wizard Matt Wand (Stock, Hausen & Walkman) and with  
drummer Paul Hession and bassoonist Mick Beck (collaborators with,  
among many others, Tom ?Squarepusher? Jenkinson).

Scott is a founding board member with the Association of Improvising  
Musicians Toronto (AIMToronto) and through the ongoing Interface  
Series ? in which renowned visiting improvisers work with Toronto  
musicians during a three-night concert program ? he has the chance to  
meet and work with numerous world-class musicians:  New York  
saxophonist and trumpeter Joe McPhee, Montr?al saxophonist and  
flutist Jean Derome, Amsterdam bassist Wilbert de Joode, K?ln  
clarinetist and saxophonist Frank Gratkowski, Vancouver drummer Dylan  
Van der Schyff, and many more.

As part of his organizing activities with AIMToronto, Scott conceived  
and programmed the hugely successful MUSIC(in)GALLERIES event in  
Toronto, which took place on a Saturday afternoon in July 2006.   
Fifteen Queen Street West art galleries hosted live, overlapping sets  
by small groups comprised of thirty-two AIMToronto musicians.  This  
generated a festive, gallery-crawl environment that provided a focal  
point for the burgeoning scene of creative improvising musicians in  
Toronto.  Local creative-music impresario and bon vivant, Ron Gaskin,  
gave the event ?fifteen stars out of five ? magnificent!?

Scott is fascinated by all facets of artistic communication, and has  
often worked with film-makers and dancers.  In particular, he has  
worked extensively with choreographer Julie Lebel's Ensemble  
Ind?pendant, and has made music for Lebel's ?Cette Violente  
Franchise? in performance throughout Ontario and Qu?bec.  The  
Ensemble's 2003 residency in the remote mining town of Fermont won  
the ROSEQ ?New Publics? award for Arts and Community development in  
Eastern Qu?bec.

Hand-in-hand with his work as a performer and organizer, Scott also  
writes about creative improvised music in popular and scholarly  
contexts.  He teaches and does research at the University of Guelph  
and Trent University, Peterborough, and has presented his research at  
the 2006 Guelph Jazz Festival Colloquium, and at the 2006 National  
Graduate Conference in Ethnomusicology at the University of  
Cambridge, UK.


Noah Phillips:

?...[Noah Phillips] fashions moody thoughtful music that delivers  
unexpected warmth and familiarity...? --Rex Butters (All About Jazz  
Los Angeles)

Noah Phillips began playing guitar during his teenage years in Los  
Angeles.  During that period, his musical influences ranged from the  
music of the Hawaiian Islands, Bob Marley, Pink Floyd, JimiHendrix  
and other popular guitar players from the 1960s, '70s, '80s, and '90s.

He attended the University of Southern California, where he studied  
jazz guitar performance.  The most influential of his teachers at  
UCSC being Joe Diorio.  After graduation, Phillips became involved  
with the new and improvised music community of Los Angeles.  Since  
moving to Oakland, Phillips has started to experiment with and  
perform using prepared electric and acoustic guitar, analog  
electronics, Congolese Drumming, no-input feedback loops, and meager  
song writing.  Noah Phillips is currently studying guitar,  
composition, and electronic music with Fred Frith in pursuit of a MFA  
at Mills College.

He has toured throughout the United States, Amsterdam, the UK, and  
Iceland.  His playing has been described as eclectic, moody, and  
creative.  He has several recordings available with various  
ensembles.  Notable performances have been given with: Harris  
Eisenstadt, Jeremy Drake, Nels Cline, Alex Cline, Vinny Golia, G.E.  
Stinson, J.D. Paron, Nathan Hubbard, Kris Tiner, Sara Schoenbeck,  
Fred Frith, Joelle Leandre, Phillip Greenlief, Tony Malaby, Jeff  
Kaiser, Damon Smith, Tim Perkis, Jessica Catron, Gust Burns, Dan  
Clucas, Rich West, and Cory Wright.


Jordan Glenn:
Inspired by the popular music of the 1990's Jordan Glenn began  
playing drums at age 12.   During his formative artistic years Glenn  
began to explore the genres of jazz, various African percussion  
vocabularies, Indian Classical Music, North American Rock, and the  
composed music of the 20th century.   Jordan holds a Bachelor of  
Music Degree in Jazz Studies from the University of Oregon.  He as  
since taught and performed professionally in a variety of settings,  
including straight ahead jazz big bands/small groups, punk and rock  
bands, cartoon and circus groups, symphony orchestras, a traditional  
Irish group, and a Tex/Mex polka band that took him to Singapore, twice!

Glenn has performed or recored with Maria Schnieder,  John Zorn,  
Giancarlo Guerrero, and Conrad Herwigis.  He is currently attending  
Mills College where he is studying with Fred Frith and William Winant  
in pursuit of a Master of Fine Arts in Performance and Literature  
(Improvisation).


http://www.terminus1525.ca/studio/view/4397
http://www.aimtoronto.org

From charity.chan at gmail.com  Tue Dec  5 22:06:20 2006
From: charity.chan at gmail.com (Charity Chan)
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:06:20 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] merci and apologies
Message-ID: <90A5BB40-69AD-46AF-85C1-0FFEDC8BE4E2@gmail.com>

Hello all...

Just wanted to say sorry again for posting on the discussion list...  
Now that I know where  to send for show listings, I can most  
certainly promise that it will never happen again in the future!

Thanks et Bisous,

Charity

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 08:21:37 2006
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:21:37 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] United States Artists Awards First Fellowships
Message-ID: <2eb068d40612060821u5dbc7d77tadb74034757c7363@mail.gmail.com>

>From Philanthropy News Digest

United States Artists Awards First Fellowships

New York City-based United States Artists has announced its first
fellowships, with unrestricted grants of $50,000 awarded to support
the creative work of individual artists.

The fifty-four fellows, including four who belong to artists'
collaboratives, represent every career stage ? emerging, mid-career,
and well-established ? as well as a broad range of artistic practices.
A total of six fellowships were awarded in the category of crafts and
traditional arts, four in dance, nine in literature (fiction,
nonfiction, poetry), six in media (audio, film, radio, video), five in
music, seven in theater arts, twelve in the visual arts, and one in
architecture and design.

Performance pioneer Meredith Monk and guitarist Bill Frisell were
honored for a body of work that stretches over decades, while
puppeteer Basil Twist, assemblage artist Anna Sew Hoy, and cartoonist
Chris Ware were recognized as important new talents with great
promise. The youngest fellow, Sterlin Harjo, is a 26-year-old Seminole
and Creek filmmaker from Norman, Oklahoma, while the oldest is
83-year-old Ali Akbar Khan, an internationally known classical Indian
musician from San Anselmo, California.

United States Artists, which provides direct support to living
artists, was established last year by the Ford, Rockefeller,
Prudential, and Rasmuson foundations. Seed funding from the founders
will enable 100 percent of future donations to the organization to
support artists over the next five years.

"USA's goal is to fuel innovation in our culture by investing in
creativity at its source ? our nation's finest artists," said Susan V.
Berresford, USA board chair and president of the Ford Foundation. "Our
2006 USA fellows represent the full spectrum of artistic excellence
and the broad array of talent that abounds in all U.S. communities.
This is...what USA, with its multidisciplinary scope and national
reach, is designed to recognize."

To learn more about this year's fellows, visit USA's Web site:
http://www.unitedstatesartists.org/Public/USAFellows/index.cfm




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From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Wed Dec  6 10:11:53 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:11:53 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Cheryl Leonard ?
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40612060821u5dbc7d77tadb74034757c7363@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c71962$02ef11e0$4001a8c0@PG>

Dear bListers,

I'm trying to reach Cheryl Leonard, and the email address I have isn't
working.
Can someone pass on her info? 
Feel free to contact me off-list.
pgsaxo at pacbell.net

Cheers,
PG


Phillip Greenlief
c/o Evander Music
PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
94623-9991
www.evandermusic.com




From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Wed Dec  6 11:15:31 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:15:31 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Solo in Tel Aviv on youtube..
Message-ID: <7cac413f82519a50bb565b0dce647076@balancepointacoustics.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w2eY6lT_1M
There is an additional duo video with the great spoprano saxophone 
player Ariel Shibolet that was too long for YOUTUBE in my myspace 
vidoes, see link below.
  The bass I am playing was a beautiful full size German flatback, lent 
to me by Jean-Claude Jones. This was from Oct. of 2005.

damon smith
http://www.balancepointacoustics.com
http://myspace.com/smithdamon

Just released:
bpa009 "sperrgut" birgit ulher/damon smith/martin blume
bpa 010 "cruxes"  aurora josephson/joelle leandre/damon smith/martin 
blume
bpa 011 "sextesense" john butcher/aaron bennett/henry kaiser/danielle 
degruttola/damon smith/jerome bryerton


From ingalls at mills.edu  Wed Dec  6 12:30:59 2006
From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:30:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>


i've been on an
over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
  can anyone recommend anything else?
  i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any sense..

thanks,
m

From tbickley at metatronpress.com  Wed Dec  6 12:42:02 2006
From: tbickley at metatronpress.com (Tom Bickley)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:42:02 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>

Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?

On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:

>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any  
> sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>


From polly.moller at gmail.com  Wed Dec  6 12:44:27 2006
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:44:27 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
	<DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40612061244u585abacew9351b952391e15c7@mail.gmail.com>

When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
atonal.

P.

On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
> >
> > i've been on an
> > over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
> >   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
> >   can anyone recommend anything else?
> >   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> > complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
> > sense..
> >
> > thanks,
> > m
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> >
>
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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Wed Dec  6 12:45:16 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:45:16 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <a060bf4362f6e311ddbd2cd23907edf1@balancepointacoustics.com>

On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:

>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any 
> sense..

I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic recently and kind of felt 
that way about it.

Damon

From ingalls at mills.edu  Wed Dec  6 12:47:58 2006
From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:47:58 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
	<DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061245070.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>


hmm.. any suggestions?  one of the pieces on my "todo" list to perform is 
"serenata #2" but that is much more darmstadt-like than what i'm talking 
about..  other maderna stuff 
that comes to mind isn't that great ..

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Tom Bickley wrote:

> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>> sense..
>>
>> thanks,
>> m
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From ingalls at mills.edu  Wed Dec  6 13:12:47 2006
From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:12:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40612061244u585abacew9351b952391e15c7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
	<DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE@metatronpress.com>
	<2eb068d40612061244u585abacew9351b952391e15c7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061301460.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>


thanks polly.

well i found a recording of this on artofthestates.org..

yea, this is not the kind of thing i am talking about. 
here's am mp3 of that webern:
http://sfsound.org/AntonWebern_op01passacaglia.mp3

-m


On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Polly Moller wrote:

> When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
> No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
> atonal.
>
> P.
>
> On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> m
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
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From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Wed Dec  6 13:35:06 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:35:06 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <002801c7197e$668319b0$4001a8c0@PG>

Berg seems a good place to explore complexity and romanticism - do you
have his complete works? The Chamber Symphony is nice. And the
operas...Lulu in particular...and the Lyric Suite is an all time
favorite.

There are a few Sofia Gubadailina works for orchestra, and the piano
concerto, that might fit into your taste. What about Schoenberg's piano
concerto? That also may fit the bill.



Phillip Greenlief
c/o Evander Music
PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
94623-9991
www.evandermusic.com

-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Matt J. Ingalls
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:31 PM
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic


i've been on an
over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
  can anyone recommend anything else?
  i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
sense..

thanks,
m
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From grobair at emusician.com  Wed Dec  6 13:22:55 2006
From: grobair at emusician.com (Robair, Gino)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:22:55 -0600
Subject: [NewMusic] Brenda Hutchinson/ Miya Masaoka in the news
Message-ID: <C19C90CF.160D%grobair@emusician.com>

Hey,
Brenda and Miya have gotten some great press lately. Brenda's Wired piece
can be seen here:
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72240-0.html?tw=wn_index_10

Miya and her laser koto was featured on NPR the other day:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6575449

Check 'em out!
g


From slusser at pixar.com  Wed Dec  6 16:48:39 2006
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:48:39 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] more jazzdeath
Message-ID: <ACE16597-C62F-47D5-A538-407C92656AA1@pixar.com>

New York Times:
December 6, 2006
Music
In the Blogosphere, an Evolving Movement Brings Life to a Lost Era of  
Jazz
By Nate Chinen

"Jazz just kind of died," said the saxophonist Branford Marsalis. "It  
just
kind of went away for a while." He was looking back to the 1970s, an
uncertain era when some jazz musicians turned to rock or funk, and  
others
pushed deeper into heady abstraction. His assessment, conveyed in the  
final
episode of "Jazz," the influential Ken Burns film, seemed as  
definitive as a
coffin nail.

But over the last six months, a far-flung contingent of musicians and
aficionados has made an effort to upend that prevailing notion, armed  
with
stacks of vinyl, high-speed Internet and a shared conviction that things
back then were really far from moribund. Along the way, they touched  
off the
year's most animated public discourse on jazz, a democratic exchange  
that
culminated last weekend in the debut of behearer.com, an interactive
database devoted to the music's most conflicted period.

The movement, so to speak, has its origins in a posting by the  
trumpeter and
composer Dave Douglas on his label's blog, greenleafmusic.com. "I'm  
reading
a new book by Philip Jenkins called 'Decade of Nightmares: The End of  
the
Sixties and the Making of Eighties America,' " Mr. Douglas wrote at the
beginning of the summer, "and I think there are some pertinent tie- 
ins to
the elusive history of the last four decades of American music. Those  
are
the decades Ken Burns couldn't handle, and this may help explain why."

That book's principal argument is that the 1970s saw the failures and
excesses of '60s idealism compounded by national horrors like Vietnam  
and
Watergate, resulting in the rise of a paranoid conservatism. On his  
blog Mr.
Douglas drew a parallel. "There's a demonization of musicians who  
pushed the
boundaries, successfully and importantly, in that period," he wrote,  
"and it
has crept into the way history is told and music is taught."

Noting that "jazz" became an impossibly broad designation around this  
time,
Mr. Douglas posed a rhetorical question: "Is there a writer who can  
take on
the project of an unbiased overview of music since the end of the  
Vietnam
War?" And borrowing Mr. Jenkins's benchmark of Richard M. Nixon's
resignation as the official end of the 1960s, he proposed a new jazz  
history
that would acknowledge "a generation of multiplicity," beginning in  
1974 and
stretching to the end of the cold war.

The call hung in the air for a while. Then, near summer's end, a  
reply of
sorts appeared on Do the Math, the blog of the band Bad Plus
(http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath). Ethan Iverson, the pianist  
in the
band and the chief blogger on the site, answered Mr. Douglas's query not
with an unbiased overview, but a catalog of hundreds of cherished albums
from his collection, complete with casual but articulate annotations.
---

More:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/arts/music/06blog.html

From personal at kees.cc  Wed Dec  6 17:38:58 2006
From: personal at kees.cc (Kees van Prooijen)
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:38:58 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
References: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765@myfiles.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <005901c719a0$7ece2790$6501a8c0@Oogappeltje>

I would say Zimmermann's "Die Soldaten" could be described like that.

Kees

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
To: <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:30 PM
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic


>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>  can anyone recommend anything else?
>  i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic 


From bischoff at mills.edu  Wed Dec  6 21:14:38 2006
From: bischoff at mills.edu (John Bischoff)
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 21:14:38 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <4577A33E.30906@mills.edu>

Try another Berg piece:

Three Pieces for Orchestra

It's right up there with Lyric Suite.

John

 > i've been on an
 > over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
 >  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
 >  can anyone recommend anything else?
 >  i'd really like to hear something with
 > Ferneyhough-like
 > complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" 
feel, > if that makes any sense..
 >
 > thanks,
 > m

***********************************
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Music Department
Mills College
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Oakland, CA 94613 USA
ph: 510-430-2331
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From charity.chan at gmail.com  Thu Dec  7 02:25:03 2006
From: charity.chan at gmail.com (Charity Chan)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 02:25:03 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <A9DF38A9-2981-4050-8E67-8547A18B69FA@gmail.com>

Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic; c/o M. Ingallls.

My personal favourity is Gorecki's 3rd symphony... not as atonal, but  
it's gorgeous (unbelievably, it was actually on top 40 when it first  
came out... the one with Dawn Upshaw is, to me, the best.).  Also,  
try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie", Berio's "Chants D'Auvergne",  
Scriabin's Piano Sonatas (No. 5 is my favourite, and this only sort  
of fits into the category), and lastly, Messaien's "Quartet for the  
End of Time" (perennial favourite).

Cheers,

cc

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> Just wanted to say sorry again for posting on the discussion list...
> Now that I know where  to send for show listings, I can most
> certainly promise that it will never happen again in the future!
>
> Thanks et Bisous,
>
> Charity
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:21:37 -0800
> From: "Polly Moller" <polly.moller at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] United States Artists Awards First Fellowships
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2eb068d40612060821u5dbc7d77tadb74034757c7363 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
>> From Philanthropy News Digest
>
> United States Artists Awards First Fellowships
>
> New York City-based United States Artists has announced its first
> fellowships, with unrestricted grants of $50,000 awarded to support
> the creative work of individual artists.
>
> The fifty-four fellows, including four who belong to artists'
> collaboratives, represent every career stage ? emerging, mid-career,
> and well-established ? as well as a broad range of artistic practices.
> A total of six fellowships were awarded in the category of crafts and
> traditional arts, four in dance, nine in literature (fiction,
> nonfiction, poetry), six in media (audio, film, radio, video), five in
> music, seven in theater arts, twelve in the visual arts, and one in
> architecture and design.
>
> Performance pioneer Meredith Monk and guitarist Bill Frisell were
> honored for a body of work that stretches over decades, while
> puppeteer Basil Twist, assemblage artist Anna Sew Hoy, and cartoonist
> Chris Ware were recognized as important new talents with great
> promise. The youngest fellow, Sterlin Harjo, is a 26-year-old Seminole
> and Creek filmmaker from Norman, Oklahoma, while the oldest is
> 83-year-old Ali Akbar Khan, an internationally known classical Indian
> musician from San Anselmo, California.
>
> United States Artists, which provides direct support to living
> artists, was established last year by the Ford, Rockefeller,
> Prudential, and Rasmuson foundations. Seed funding from the founders
> will enable 100 percent of future donations to the organization to
> support artists over the next five years.
>
> "USA's goal is to fuel innovation in our culture by investing in
> creativity at its source ? our nation's finest artists," said Susan V.
> Berresford, USA board chair and president of the Ford Foundation. "Our
> 2006 USA fellows represent the full spectrum of artistic excellence
> and the broad array of talent that abounds in all U.S. communities.
> This is...what USA, with its multidisciplinary scope and national
> reach, is designed to recognize."
>
> To learn more about this year's fellows, visit USA's Web site:
> http://www.unitedstatesartists.org/Public/USAFellows/index.cfm
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------
> http://www.pollymoller.com
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:11:53 -0800
> From: "Phillip Greenlief" <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Cheryl Leonard ?
> To: "'Bay Area New Music Discussion Group'" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <000001c71962$02ef11e0$4001a8c0 at PG>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear bListers,
>
> I'm trying to reach Cheryl Leonard, and the email address I have isn't
> working.
> Can someone pass on her info?
> Feel free to contact me off-list.
> pgsaxo at pacbell.net
>
> Cheers,
> PG
>
>
> Phillip Greenlief
> c/o Evander Music
> PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
> 94623-9991
> www.evandermusic.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:15:31 -0800
> From: Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Solo in Tel Aviv on youtube..
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<7cac413f82519a50bb565b0dce647076 at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w2eY6lT_1M
> There is an additional duo video with the great spoprano saxophone
> player Ariel Shibolet that was too long for YOUTUBE in my myspace
> vidoes, see link below.
>   The bass I am playing was a beautiful full size German flatback,  
> lent
> to me by Jean-Claude Jones. This was from Oct. of 2005.
>
> damon smith
> http://www.balancepointacoustics.com
> http://myspace.com/smithdamon
>
> Just released:
> bpa009 "sperrgut" birgit ulher/damon smith/martin blume
> bpa 010 "cruxes"  aurora josephson/joelle leandre/damon smith/martin
> blume
> bpa 011 "sextesense" john butcher/aaron bennett/henry kaiser/danielle
> degruttola/damon smith/jerome bryerton
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:30:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any  
> sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:42:02 -0800
> From: Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE at metatronpress.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>> sense..
>>
>> thanks,
>> m
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:44:27 -0800
> From: "Polly Moller" <polly.moller at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2eb068d40612061244u585abacew9351b952391e15c7 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
> No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
> atonal.
>
> P.
>
> On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> m
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------
> http://www.pollymoller.com
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:45:16 -0800
> From: Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a060bf4362f6e311ddbd2cd23907edf1 at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=US-ASCII;	format=flowed
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>> sense..
>
> I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic recently and kind of felt
> that way about it.
>
> Damon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:47:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061245070.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> hmm.. any suggestions?  one of the pieces on my "todo" list to  
> perform is
> "serenata #2" but that is much more darmstadt-like than what i'm  
> talking
> about..  other maderna stuff
> that comes to mind isn't that great ..
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Tom Bickley wrote:
>
>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> m
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:12:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061301460.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> thanks polly.
>
> well i found a recording of this on artofthestates.org..
>
> yea, this is not the kind of thing i am talking about.
> here's am mp3 of that webern:
> http://sfsound.org/AntonWebern_op01passacaglia.mp3
>
> -m
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Polly Moller wrote:
>
>> When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
>> No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
>> atonal.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
>>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> i've been on an
>>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>>> sense..
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> m
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------
>> http://www.pollymoller.com
>> -------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:35:06 -0800
> From: "Phillip Greenlief" <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "'Bay Area New Music Discussion Group'" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <002801c7197e$668319b0$4001a8c0 at PG>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Berg seems a good place to explore complexity and romanticism - do you
> have his complete works? The Chamber Symphony is nice. And the
> operas...Lulu in particular...and the Lyric Suite is an all time
> favorite.
>
> There are a few Sofia Gubadailina works for orchestra, and the piano
> concerto, that might fit into your taste. What about Schoenberg's  
> piano
> concerto? That also may fit the bill.
>
>
>
> Phillip Greenlief
> c/o Evander Music
> PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
> 94623-9991
> www.evandermusic.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
> [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Matt J. Ingalls
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
> sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:22:55 -0600
> From: "Robair, Gino" <grobair at emusician.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Brenda Hutchinson/ Miya Masaoka in the news
> To: New Music <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <C19C90CF.160D%grobair at emusician.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hey,
> Brenda and Miya have gotten some great press lately. Brenda's Wired  
> piece
> can be seen here:
> http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72240-0.html?tw=wn_index_10
>
> Miya and her laser koto was featured on NPR the other day:
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6575449
>
> Check 'em out!
> g
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:48:39 -0800
> From: David Slusser <slusser at pixar.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] more jazzdeath
> To: New Music <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <ACE16597-C62F-47D5-A538-407C92656AA1 at pixar.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> New York Times:
> December 6, 2006
> Music
> In the Blogosphere, an Evolving Movement Brings Life to a Lost Era of
> Jazz
> By Nate Chinen
>
> "Jazz just kind of died," said the saxophonist Branford Marsalis. "It
> just
> kind of went away for a while." He was looking back to the 1970s, an
> uncertain era when some jazz musicians turned to rock or funk, and
> others
> pushed deeper into heady abstraction. His assessment, conveyed in the
> final
> episode of "Jazz," the influential Ken Burns film, seemed as
> definitive as a
> coffin nail.
>
> But over the last six months, a far-flung contingent of musicians and
> aficionados has made an effort to upend that prevailing notion, armed
> with
> stacks of vinyl, high-speed Internet and a shared conviction that  
> things
> back then were really far from moribund. Along the way, they touched
> off the
> year's most animated public discourse on jazz, a democratic exchange
> that
> culminated last weekend in the debut of behearer.com, an interactive
> database devoted to the music's most conflicted period.
>
> The movement, so to speak, has its origins in a posting by the
> trumpeter and
> composer Dave Douglas on his label's blog, greenleafmusic.com. "I'm
> reading
> a new book by Philip Jenkins called 'Decade of Nightmares: The End of
> the
> Sixties and the Making of Eighties America,' " Mr. Douglas wrote at  
> the
> beginning of the summer, "and I think there are some pertinent tie-
> ins to
> the elusive history of the last four decades of American music. Those
> are
> the decades Ken Burns couldn't handle, and this may help explain why."
>
> That book's principal argument is that the 1970s saw the failures and
> excesses of '60s idealism compounded by national horrors like Vietnam
> and
> Watergate, resulting in the rise of a paranoid conservatism. On his
> blog Mr.
> Douglas drew a parallel. "There's a demonization of musicians who
> pushed the
> boundaries, successfully and importantly, in that period," he wrote,
> "and it
> has crept into the way history is told and music is taught."
>
> Noting that "jazz" became an impossibly broad designation around this
> time,
> Mr. Douglas posed a rhetorical question: "Is there a writer who can
> take on
> the project of an unbiased overview of music since the end of the
> Vietnam
> War?" And borrowing Mr. Jenkins's benchmark of Richard M. Nixon's
> resignation as the official end of the 1960s, he proposed a new jazz
> history
> that would acknowledge "a generation of multiplicity," beginning in
> 1974 and
> stretching to the end of the cold war.
>
> The call hung in the air for a while. Then, near summer's end, a
> reply of
> sorts appeared on Do the Math, the blog of the band Bad Plus
> (http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath). Ethan Iverson, the pianist
> in the
> band and the chief blogger on the site, answered Mr. Douglas's  
> query not
> with an unbiased overview, but a catalog of hundreds of cherished  
> albums
> from his collection, complete with casual but articulate annotations.
> ---
>
> More:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/arts/music/06blog.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:38:58 -0800
> From: "Kees van Prooijen" <personal at kees.cc>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <005901c719a0$7ece2790$6501a8c0 at Oogappeltje>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> I would say Zimmermann's "Die Soldaten" could be described like that.
>
> Kees
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> To: <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:30 PM
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>  can anyone recommend anything else?
>>  i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any  
>> sense..
>>
>> thanks,
>> m
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
> End of NewMusic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5
> **************************************


From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com  Thu Dec  7 08:49:01 2006
From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 08:49:01 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Amusement of the Day
Message-ID: <051e2d78445c94db8adef59c845a3bbd@matthewgoodheart.com>

So I'm putting my old CDR recording (which I made from the original DAT 
tape) of the Cecil Taylor Orchestra from Yerba Buena from the SF Jazz 
Fest in 1995 into my computer. iTunes pops up and checks into CDDB, and 
lo and behold, the disc comes in labeled as:

Face Down, Ass Up   by Andrew Dice Clay.


Hmmmm. . .


From td at pixar.com  Thu Dec  7 09:23:05 2006
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 09:23:05 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] more jazzdeath
In-Reply-To: <ACE16597-C62F-47D5-A538-407C92656AA1@pixar.com>
References: <ACE16597-C62F-47D5-A538-407C92656AA1@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0612070920110.7370@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>

On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, David Slusser wrote:

> The call hung in the air for a while. Then, near summer's end, a reply of
> sorts appeared on Do the Math, the blog of the band Bad Plus
> (http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath). Ethan Iverson, the pianist in the
> band and the chief blogger on the site, answered Mr. Douglas's query not
> with an unbiased overview, but a catalog of hundreds of cherished albums
> from his collection, complete with casual but articulate annotations.

Ethan's post is here:
http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2006/08/ethan_iversons_.html
(I think that's it -- his server is momentarily down.  In any case
you can find the post about 30% of the way down this page:
http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath/2006/08/index.html)

-- 
Tom Duff.  And the tune's my own invention.

From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Thu Dec  7 10:38:15 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 10:38:15 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <A9DF38A9-2981-4050-8E67-8547A18B69FA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000501c71a2e$e1d5ee20$4001a8c0@PG>

Not sure if this fits the bill, but Berio's "Coro" is also a very
complex and oddly romantic piece...

Charity: Thanks for reminding me of the Messaien!

PG


Phillip Greenlief
c/o Evander Music
PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
94623-9991
www.evandermusic.com

-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Charity Chan
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2006 2:25 AM
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic

Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic; c/o M. Ingallls.

My personal favourity is Gorecki's 3rd symphony... not as atonal, but  
it's gorgeous (unbelievably, it was actually on top 40 when it first  
came out... the one with Dawn Upshaw is, to me, the best.).  Also,  
try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie", Berio's "Chants D'Auvergne",  
Scriabin's Piano Sonatas (No. 5 is my favourite, and this only sort  
of fits into the category), and lastly, Messaien's "Quartet for the  
End of Time" (perennial favourite).

Cheers,

cc

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>    3. Cheryl Leonard ? (Phillip Greenlief)
>    4. Solo in Tel Aviv on youtube.. (Damon Smith)
>    5. old newmusic (Matt J. Ingalls)
>    6. Re: old newmusic (Tom Bickley)
>    7. Re: old newmusic (Polly Moller)
>    8. Re: old newmusic (Damon Smith)
>    9. Re: old newmusic (Matt J. Ingalls)
>   10. Re: old newmusic (Matt J. Ingalls)
>   11. Re: old newmusic (Phillip Greenlief)
>   12. Brenda Hutchinson/ Miya Masaoka in the news (Robair, Gino)
>   13. more jazzdeath (David Slusser)
>   14. Re: old newmusic (Kees van Prooijen)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2006 22:06:20 -0800
> From: Charity Chan <charity.chan at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] merci and apologies
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Message-ID: <90A5BB40-69AD-46AF-85C1-0FFEDC8BE4E2 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=US-ASCII;	delsp=yes;
format=flowed
>
> Hello all...
>
> Just wanted to say sorry again for posting on the discussion list...
> Now that I know where  to send for show listings, I can most
> certainly promise that it will never happen again in the future!
>
> Thanks et Bisous,
>
> Charity
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 08:21:37 -0800
> From: "Polly Moller" <polly.moller at gmail.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] United States Artists Awards First Fellowships
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2eb068d40612060821u5dbc7d77tadb74034757c7363 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; format=flowed
>
>> From Philanthropy News Digest
>
> United States Artists Awards First Fellowships
>
> New York City-based United States Artists has announced its first
> fellowships, with unrestricted grants of $50,000 awarded to support
> the creative work of individual artists.
>
> The fifty-four fellows, including four who belong to artists'
> collaboratives, represent every career stage ? emerging, mid-career,
> and well-established ? as well as a broad range of artistic practices.
> A total of six fellowships were awarded in the category of crafts and
> traditional arts, four in dance, nine in literature (fiction,
> nonfiction, poetry), six in media (audio, film, radio, video), five in
> music, seven in theater arts, twelve in the visual arts, and one in
> architecture and design.
>
> Performance pioneer Meredith Monk and guitarist Bill Frisell were
> honored for a body of work that stretches over decades, while
> puppeteer Basil Twist, assemblage artist Anna Sew Hoy, and cartoonist
> Chris Ware were recognized as important new talents with great
> promise. The youngest fellow, Sterlin Harjo, is a 26-year-old Seminole
> and Creek filmmaker from Norman, Oklahoma, while the oldest is
> 83-year-old Ali Akbar Khan, an internationally known classical Indian
> musician from San Anselmo, California.
>
> United States Artists, which provides direct support to living
> artists, was established last year by the Ford, Rockefeller,
> Prudential, and Rasmuson foundations. Seed funding from the founders
> will enable 100 percent of future donations to the organization to
> support artists over the next five years.
>
> "USA's goal is to fuel innovation in our culture by investing in
> creativity at its source ? our nation's finest artists," said Susan V.
> Berresford, USA board chair and president of the Ford Foundation. "Our
> 2006 USA fellows represent the full spectrum of artistic excellence
> and the broad array of talent that abounds in all U.S. communities.
> This is...what USA, with its multidisciplinary scope and national
> reach, is designed to recognize."
>
> To learn more about this year's fellows, visit USA's Web site:
> http://www.unitedstatesartists.org/Public/USAFellows/index.cfm
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------
> http://www.pollymoller.com
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:11:53 -0800
> From: "Phillip Greenlief" <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Cheryl Leonard ?
> To: "'Bay Area New Music Discussion Group'" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <000001c71962$02ef11e0$4001a8c0 at PG>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Dear bListers,
>
> I'm trying to reach Cheryl Leonard, and the email address I have isn't
> working.
> Can someone pass on her info?
> Feel free to contact me off-list.
> pgsaxo at pacbell.net
>
> Cheers,
> PG
>
>
> Phillip Greenlief
> c/o Evander Music
> PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
> 94623-9991
> www.evandermusic.com
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 11:15:31 -0800
> From: Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Solo in Tel Aviv on youtube..
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<7cac413f82519a50bb565b0dce647076 at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w2eY6lT_1M
> There is an additional duo video with the great spoprano saxophone
> player Ariel Shibolet that was too long for YOUTUBE in my myspace
> vidoes, see link below.
>   The bass I am playing was a beautiful full size German flatback,  
> lent
> to me by Jean-Claude Jones. This was from Oct. of 2005.
>
> damon smith
> http://www.balancepointacoustics.com
> http://myspace.com/smithdamon
>
> Just released:
> bpa009 "sperrgut" birgit ulher/damon smith/martin blume
> bpa 010 "cruxes"  aurora josephson/joelle leandre/damon smith/martin
> blume
> bpa 011 "sextesense" john butcher/aaron bennett/henry kaiser/danielle
> degruttola/damon smith/jerome bryerton
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:30:59 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061214400.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any  
> sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:42:02 -0800
> From: Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <DBEE3BCD-7498-4642-91F7-9D4154F3BBEE at metatronpress.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>> sense..
>>
>> thanks,
>> m
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:44:27 -0800
> From: "Polly Moller" <polly.moller at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<2eb068d40612061244u585abacew9351b952391e15c7 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
> No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
> atonal.
>
> P.
>
> On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> m
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> -- 
> -------------------------------------
> http://www.pollymoller.com
> -------------------------------------
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:45:16 -0800
> From: Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID:
> 	<a060bf4362f6e311ddbd2cd23907edf1 at balancepointacoustics.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=US-ASCII;	format=flowed
>
> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>> sense..
>
> I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic recently and kind of felt
> that way about it.
>
> Damon
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:47:58 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061245070.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> hmm.. any suggestions?  one of the pieces on my "todo" list to  
> perform is
> "serenata #2" but that is much more darmstadt-like than what i'm  
> talking
> about..  other maderna stuff
> that comes to mind isn't that great ..
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Tom Bickley wrote:
>
>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> m
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:12:47 -0800 (PST)
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0612061301460.18765 at myfiles.mills.edu>
> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>
> thanks polly.
>
> well i found a recording of this on artofthestates.org..
>
> yea, this is not the kind of thing i am talking about.
> here's am mp3 of that webern:
> http://sfsound.org/AntonWebern_op01passacaglia.mp3
>
> -m
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Polly Moller wrote:
>
>> When I think "romantic", I hear Henry Cowell's Hymn & Fuguing Tune
>> No. 2 for string orchestra.  But that's neither very complex nor very
>> atonal.
>>
>> P.
>>
>> On 12/6/06, Tom Bickley <tbickley at metatronpress.com> wrote:
>>> Perhaps some Bruno Maderna?
>>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> i've been on an
>>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
>>>> sense..
>>>>
>>>> thanks,
>>>> m
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> -------------------------------------
>> http://www.pollymoller.com
>> -------------------------------------
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 13:35:06 -0800
> From: "Phillip Greenlief" <pgsaxo at pacbell.net>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "'Bay Area New Music Discussion Group'" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <002801c7197e$668319b0$4001a8c0 at PG>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"
>
> Berg seems a good place to explore complexity and romanticism - do you
> have his complete works? The Chamber Symphony is nice. And the
> operas...Lulu in particular...and the Lyric Suite is an all time
> favorite.
>
> There are a few Sofia Gubadailina works for orchestra, and the piano
> concerto, that might fit into your taste. What about Schoenberg's  
> piano
> concerto? That also may fit the bill.
>
>
>
> Phillip Greenlief
> c/o Evander Music
> PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA
> 94623-9991
> www.evandermusic.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
> [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Matt J. Ingalls
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:31 PM
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
>
> i've been on an
> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>   i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any
> sense..
>
> thanks,
> m
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 15:22:55 -0600
> From: "Robair, Gino" <grobair at emusician.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Brenda Hutchinson/ Miya Masaoka in the news
> To: New Music <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <C19C90CF.160D%grobair at emusician.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Hey,
> Brenda and Miya have gotten some great press lately. Brenda's Wired  
> piece
> can be seen here:
> http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,72240-0.html?tw=wn_index_10
>
> Miya and her laser koto was featured on NPR the other day:
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=6575449
>
> Check 'em out!
> g
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 16:48:39 -0800
> From: David Slusser <slusser at pixar.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] more jazzdeath
> To: New Music <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <ACE16597-C62F-47D5-A538-407C92656AA1 at pixar.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
>
> New York Times:
> December 6, 2006
> Music
> In the Blogosphere, an Evolving Movement Brings Life to a Lost Era of
> Jazz
> By Nate Chinen
>
> "Jazz just kind of died," said the saxophonist Branford Marsalis. "It
> just
> kind of went away for a while." He was looking back to the 1970s, an
> uncertain era when some jazz musicians turned to rock or funk, and
> others
> pushed deeper into heady abstraction. His assessment, conveyed in the
> final
> episode of "Jazz," the influential Ken Burns film, seemed as
> definitive as a
> coffin nail.
>
> But over the last six months, a far-flung contingent of musicians and
> aficionados has made an effort to upend that prevailing notion, armed
> with
> stacks of vinyl, high-speed Internet and a shared conviction that  
> things
> back then were really far from moribund. Along the way, they touched
> off the
> year's most animated public discourse on jazz, a democratic exchange
> that
> culminated last weekend in the debut of behearer.com, an interactive
> database devoted to the music's most conflicted period.
>
> The movement, so to speak, has its origins in a posting by the
> trumpeter and
> composer Dave Douglas on his label's blog, greenleafmusic.com. "I'm
> reading
> a new book by Philip Jenkins called 'Decade of Nightmares: The End of
> the
> Sixties and the Making of Eighties America,' " Mr. Douglas wrote at  
> the
> beginning of the summer, "and I think there are some pertinent tie-
> ins to
> the elusive history of the last four decades of American music. Those
> are
> the decades Ken Burns couldn't handle, and this may help explain why."
>
> That book's principal argument is that the 1970s saw the failures and
> excesses of '60s idealism compounded by national horrors like Vietnam
> and
> Watergate, resulting in the rise of a paranoid conservatism. On his
> blog Mr.
> Douglas drew a parallel. "There's a demonization of musicians who
> pushed the
> boundaries, successfully and importantly, in that period," he wrote,
> "and it
> has crept into the way history is told and music is taught."
>
> Noting that "jazz" became an impossibly broad designation around this
> time,
> Mr. Douglas posed a rhetorical question: "Is there a writer who can
> take on
> the project of an unbiased overview of music since the end of the
> Vietnam
> War?" And borrowing Mr. Jenkins's benchmark of Richard M. Nixon's
> resignation as the official end of the 1960s, he proposed a new jazz
> history
> that would acknowledge "a generation of multiplicity," beginning in
> 1974 and
> stretching to the end of the cold war.
>
> The call hung in the air for a while. Then, near summer's end, a
> reply of
> sorts appeared on Do the Math, the blog of the band Bad Plus
> (http://thebadplus.typepad.com/dothemath). Ethan Iverson, the pianist
> in the
> band and the chief blogger on the site, answered Mr. Douglas's  
> query not
> with an unbiased overview, but a catalog of hundreds of cherished  
> albums
> from his collection, complete with casual but articulate annotations.
> ---
>
> More:
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/06/arts/music/06blog.html
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 17:38:58 -0800
> From: "Kees van Prooijen" <personal at kees.cc>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <005901c719a0$7ece2790$6501a8c0 at Oogappeltje>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> I would say Zimmermann's "Die Soldaten" could be described like that.
>
> Kees
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matt J. Ingalls" <ingalls at mills.edu>
> To: <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:30 PM
> Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
>
>>
>> i've been on an
>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>  like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>  can anyone recommend anything else?
>>  i'd really like to hear something with Ferneyhough-like
>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel, if that makes any  
>> sense..
>>
>> thanks,
>> m
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
> End of NewMusic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 5
> **************************************

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From letucepry at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  7 13:43:44 2006
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2006 13:43:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] Zen V Plus
Message-ID: <20061207214344.50668.qmail@web50310.mail.yahoo.com>

Does anyone have a Creative labs Zen V Plus?
I was wondering what the sample rate on the recorder was.
I looked all over Creative Labs site, and can't find mention of it...

Thanks,
Lettuce


 
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From td at pixar.com  Fri Dec  8 07:53:27 2006
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 07:53:27 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <A9DF38A9-2981-4050-8E67-8547A18B69FA@gmail.com>
References: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
	<A9DF38A9-2981-4050-8E67-8547A18B69FA@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0612080744480.28643@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>

On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Charity Chan wrote:

> Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"

Yeah.  This was one of Tim's favorites when he was an infant, along with 
Paul Simon's Graceland and a Bob Marley greatest hits package, both of 
which I recommend for babies, but probably not for ma++.  We have the LA 
Philharmonic/Esa-Pekka Salonen version (of the Messiaen, not the Bob 
Marley.)

This reminds me of some things to pack when we go to visit the grandchild
next week...

-- 
Tom Duff.  Our core competencies are pattern paralysis and
micro-infractions.

From walters at doubtfulpalace.com  Fri Dec  8 09:07:11 2006
From: walters at doubtfulpalace.com (Tim Walters)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:07:11 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0612080744480.28643@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
References: <mailman.1.1165467602.6944.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
	<A9DF38A9-2981-4050-8E67-8547A18B69FA@gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0612080744480.28643@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
Message-ID: <AFE08024-D8D5-48DF-8AE6-469E0D28DA36@doubtfulpalace.com>

> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Charity Chan wrote:
>
>
>> Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"

Boulez called it "whorehouse music," so you know it's got to be good.

From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Fri Dec  8 09:49:03 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 09:49:03 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <AFE08024-D8D5-48DF-8AE6-469E0D28DA36@doubtfulpalace.com>
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-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Tim Walters

> On Thu, 7 Dec 2006, Charity Chan wrote:
Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"

Boulez called it "whorehouse music," so you know it's got to be good.

PG:
Boulez, being the all-time Grande Madame de la Maison, would surely
know, right?


From ingalls at mills.edu  Fri Dec  8 21:36:55 2006
From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls)
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2006 21:36:55 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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>> Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"
>
> Yeah.  This was one of Tim's favorites when he was an infant, along with
> Paul Simon's Graceland and a Bob Marley greatest hits package, both of
> which I recommend for babies, but probably not for ma++.  We have the LA

you might be surprised to know that i own all 3!

> Philharmonic/Esa-Pekka Salonen version (of the Messiaen, not the Bob
> Marley.)

have old LP with ozawa that i got used that reeks of mold and a recent CD 
with Nagano.  but yea, i guess that might fit the category i was thinking 
of. it doesn't have the same nervous (angst-ridden?) 
emotive quality that the austrians do.  could see messaien-camp 
criticizing the others as too self-absorbed.

-m

From magsatellite at yahoo.com  Sat Dec  9 10:44:40 2006
From: magsatellite at yahoo.com (J. Segel)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 10:44:40 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1165640401.11798.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <20061209184440.24493.qmail@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


--- newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:
> >> Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"
> 
> Boulez called it "whorehouse music," so you know it's got to be good.


apropos only of messaien, does anybody have a score for his "sept haikai" (that
frog for 7 haikus, apparently)? 
or can i waltz into the mills library as an alumni? do i need i.d. for that....?

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From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com  Sat Dec  9 12:02:57 2006
From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 12:02:57 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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You can check it out from Mills if you're an alum (it's in, I just  
looked)- you might need to get an id if you don't have one. You can  
also waltz into the UCB Music Library if you want to just look at it,  
they don't check id's at the door. They also have photocopiers. . .  
although I'm certainly not implying anything.

mg

On Dec 9, 2006, at 10:44 AM, J. Segel wrote:

>
> --- newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:
>>>> Also, try Messaien's "Turangalila-Symphonie"
>>
>> Boulez called it "whorehouse music," so you know it's got to be good.
>
>
> apropos only of messaien, does anybody have a score for his "sept  
> haikai" (that
> frog for 7 haikus, apparently)?
> or can i waltz into the mills library as an alumni? do i need i.d. for  
> that....?
>
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From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Sat Dec  9 13:32:27 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Sat, 9 Dec 2006 13:32:27 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of J. Segel

apropos only of messaien, does anybody have a score for his "sept
haikai" (that
frog for 7 haikus, apparently)? 
or can i waltz into the mills library as an alumni? do i need i.d. for
that....?

PG:
I also go to the UCBerkeley library quite a lot - great selection -
Xerox machine on hand...hard to resist. They have a good selection of
Messaien's music, but I can't remember if they have this one or not...

 


From mail at purelovepower.com  Sun Dec 10 13:51:53 2006
From: mail at purelovepower.com (john hanes)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:51:53 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Twentytwentyone Laptop Quartet performs selected pages
 from 'Treatise' by Cornelius Cardew
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http://www.con-v.org/cnv37.htm

-john


From td at pixar.com  Sun Dec 10 14:39:25 2006
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:39:25 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] Fingers on fire
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Oscar Peterson plays Eight Bar Boogie Blues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNvWQgkDcs

(Pointed out by Kyle Gann.)

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From abennett at calarts.edu  Sun Dec 10 22:21:43 2006
From: abennett at calarts.edu (Aaron Bennett)
Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 22:21:43 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 9
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1165813202.11243.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
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Thanks Tom, that is a thing of beauty.

Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:39:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Tom Duff <td at pixar.com>
Subject: [NewMusic] Fingers on fire
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
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Oscar Peterson plays Eight Bar Boogie Blues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNvWQgkDcs

(Pointed out by Kyle Gann.)

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From magsatellite at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 11 11:16:29 2006
From: magsatellite at yahoo.com (J. Segel)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 11:16:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 8, Issue 9
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> http://www.con-v.org/cnv37.htm
> 


> Oscar Peterson plays Eight Bar Boogie Blues:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNvWQgkDcs



a cow:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTihG3AjPw

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From jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 11 12:37:29 2006
From: jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com (Jacob Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:37:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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Krannerg romantic?



--- Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
wrote:

> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
> 
> >
> > i've been on an
> > over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
> >   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
> >   can anyone recommend anything else?
> >   i'd really like to hear something with
> Ferneyhough-like
> > complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel,
> if that makes any 
> > sense..
> 
> I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic
> recently and kind of felt 
> that way about it.
> 
> Damon
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From polly.moller at gmail.com  Mon Dec 11 12:54:31 2006
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 12:54:31 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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Kent Kennan's "Night Soliloquy" is hella romantic.
It's for flute and piano.
P.

On 12/11/06, Jacob Lindsay <jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Krannerg romantic?
>
>
>
> --- Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > i've been on an
> > > over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
> > >   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
> > >   can anyone recommend anything else?
> > >   i'd really like to hear something with
> > Ferneyhough-like
> > > complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel,
> > if that makes any
> > > sense..
> >
> > I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic
> > recently and kind of felt
> > that way about it.
> >
> > Damon
> > _______________________________________________
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> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
>
>
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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Mon Dec 11 13:16:59 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:16:59 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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It has a bunch of singing strings, it is really nice. Maybe my version  
of romance is different than other people's.

Damon


On Dec 11, 2006, at 12:37 PM, Jacob Lindsay wrote:

> Krannerg romantic?
>
>
>
> --- Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> i've been on an
>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>   i'd really like to hear something with
>> Ferneyhough-like
>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel,
>> if that makes any
>>> sense..
>>
>> I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic
>> recently and kind of felt
>> that way about it.
>>
>> Damon
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
> Jacob Lindsay
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>
>
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From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Mon Dec 11 13:27:44 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:27:44 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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-----Original Message-----
From: Damon Smith
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic

Maybe my version  
of romance is different than other people's.

Damon

PG:
I have to imagine that is true...


From timduroche at variousartists.org  Mon Dec 11 13:39:52 2006
From: timduroche at variousartists.org (Tim DuRoche)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:39:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <001701c71d6b$3d5befd0$4001a8c0@PG>
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C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the the first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.

Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote: -----Original Message-----
From: Damon Smith
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic

Maybe my version  
of romance is different than other people's.

Damon

PG:
I have to imagine that is true...

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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Mon Dec 11 13:40:40 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:40:40 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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No, that is "Black Saint and Sinner Lady" you're talking about, Xenakis 
is great and even wrote fantastic bass piece, (Theraps) but he is no 
Mingus.
Damon

On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Tim DuRoche wrote:

> C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the 
> the first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.
>
> Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote: -----Original 
> Message-----
> From: Damon Smith
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
> Maybe my version
> of romance is different than other people's.
>
> Damon
>
> PG:
> I have to imagine that is true...
>
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From weaselw at juno.com  Mon Dec 11 13:45:16 2006
From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:45:16 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
Message-ID: <20061211.134517.2736.20.weaselw@juno.com>

i have done it with a lady while xenakis was on really loud. it was very
romantic, thank you very much.

ww
 
On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:39:52 -0800 (PST) Tim DuRoche
<timduroche at variousartists.org> writes:
> C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the 
> the first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.
> 
> Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote: -----Original 
> Message-----
> From: Damon Smith
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
> 
> Maybe my version  
> of romance is different than other people's.
> 
> Damon
> 
> PG:
> I have to imagine that is true...
> 
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From timduroche at variousartists.org  Mon Dec 11 13:48:53 2006
From: timduroche at variousartists.org (Tim DuRoche)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:48:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <345ffebb0eb163242637568b0186d5ad@balancepointacoustics.com>
Message-ID: <912073.1156.qm@web33510.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I forgot that was your version of Barry White. . .I remember the conversation now. 

Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com> wrote: No, that is "Black Saint and Sinner Lady" you're talking about, Xenakis 
is great and even wrote fantastic bass piece, (Theraps) but he is no 
Mingus.
Damon

On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:39 PM, Tim DuRoche wrote:

> C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the 
> the first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.
>
> Phillip Greenlief 
 wrote: -----Original 
> Message-----
> From: Damon Smith
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
> Maybe my version
> of romance is different than other people's.
>
> Damon
>
> PG:
> I have to imagine that is true...
>
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From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Mon Dec 11 13:57:17 2006
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:57:17 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <20061211213952.60327.qmail@web33503.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of Tim DuRoche

C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the the
first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.

PG:
I would gladly make out to it any day of the week - unfortunately, I
don't have a kissing partner at the moment. 

But I wasn't commenting on that - I was commenting on Damon's "version
of romance" being different than the rest of us...come on now, you can't
doubt that!

Good to hear from you and even GREATER to see and play with you on the
last trip to Portland! That trio was a lot of fun.


Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote: -----Original Message-----
From: Damon Smith
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic

Maybe my version  
of romance is different than other people's.

Damon

PG:
I have to imagine that is true...

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From Henry.Kuntz at ceb.ucop.edu  Mon Dec 11 14:27:04 2006
From: Henry.Kuntz at ceb.ucop.edu (Henry Kuntz)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:27:04 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] Fingers on fire
Message-ID: <34EC3AC09ED2D24288CDD6BB1A348511066E2B7F@exchange.ceb.ucop.edu>

I saw OP up close on my birthday many years ago (1976?) at a now-defunct
club in North Beach (El Matador?). It was a highlight of my live listening
experiences. It was amazing to be in the flow for a time of that lineage of
piano mastery. 

-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Tom Duff
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 2:39 PM
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
Subject: [NewMusic] Fingers on fire


Oscar Peterson plays Eight Bar Boogie Blues:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNvWQgkDcs

(Pointed out by Kyle Gann.)

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From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com  Mon Dec 11 14:40:17 2006
From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:40:17 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <20061211.134517.2736.20.weaselw@juno.com>
References: <20061211.134517.2736.20.weaselw@juno.com>
Message-ID: <2781d8264d761c2e0da6c0ecb62a0cf0@matthewgoodheart.com>

I had really loud sex with Xenakis while listening to Mingus. Gave me a 
whole new appreciation of stochasticism.

On Dec 11, 2006, at 1:45 PM, weasel walter wrote:

> i have done it with a lady while xenakis was on really loud. it was 
> very
> romantic, thank you very much.
>
> ww
>
> On Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:39:52 -0800 (PST) Tim DuRoche
> <timduroche at variousartists.org> writes:
>> C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music, skip the
>> the first three bases. . .mac-daddy homerun soundtrack.
>>
>> Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote: -----Original
>> Message-----
>> From: Damon Smith
>> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>>
>> Maybe my version
>> of romance is different than other people's.
>>
>> Damon
>>
>> PG:
>> I have to imagine that is true...
>>
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From elsuperfantastico at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 11 14:57:07 2006
From: elsuperfantastico at yahoo.com (Chris Broderick)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 14:57:07 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <2781d8264d761c2e0da6c0ecb62a0cf0@matthewgoodheart.com>
Message-ID: <504165.57117.qm@web53614.mail.yahoo.com>

Now that's romantic!

-Chris


--- Matthew Goodheart <matthew at matthewgoodheart.com>
terrifyingly wrote:

> I had really loud sex with Xenakis while listening
> to Mingus. Gave me a 
> whole new appreciation of stochasticism.


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From 21grand at 21grand.org  Mon Dec 11 15:09:18 2006
From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:09:18 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic]  old newmusic
Message-ID: <C1A3251E.169BC%21grand@21grand.org>

Tim opined:

C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music,

- right up there with "Human Fly" by the Cramps, and better than Throbbing
Gristle. All apologies, but listening to music by someone I know while
engaged in romantic endeavors weirds me out. Is it just me?

sl


From sopranino at sbcglobal.net  Mon Dec 11 15:22:51 2006
From: sopranino at sbcglobal.net (Jon Raskin)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:22:51 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <504165.57117.qm@web53614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <004001c71d7b$4807c480$5564a8c0@HP28718835617>

Since this stretching far a field here is a right angle.

I just watched Roman Polanski's 1962 movie "Knife in the Water" again. The
kiss between the hitchhiker and the wife after the husband has swam back to
shore is a much better sample of showing a very romantic stochastic matrix.
It has to be one of the most sexually charged kisses in Cinema and in B&W to
boot.

In all probabilities in was going to happen and can be vectored by the
moment but has that quality shows something outside of science and religion.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Broderick
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:57 PM
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic

Now that's romantic!

-Chris


--- Matthew Goodheart <matthew at matthewgoodheart.com> terrifyingly wrote:

> I had really loud sex with Xenakis while listening to Mingus. Gave me 
> a whole new appreciation of stochasticism.


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From polly.moller at gmail.com  Mon Dec 11 15:41:43 2006
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:41:43 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <C1A3251E.169BC%21grand@21grand.org>
References: <C1A3251E.169BC%21grand@21grand.org>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40612111541m3e3b90b8j649e009cfb7bf15b@mail.gmail.com>

Normally I would agree with Sarah about not making out to music by
people I know, but Ronnie Cramer's Juno CD is so very...
*conducive*, I forget all about knowing the composer. :)

On 12/11/06, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote:
> Tim opined:
>
> C'mon PG, you know that Xenakis is totally make-out music,
>
> - right up there with "Human Fly" by the Cramps, and better than Throbbing
> Gristle. All apologies, but listening to music by someone I know while
> engaged in romantic endeavors weirds me out. Is it just me?
>
> sl
>
> _______________________________________________
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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Mon Dec 11 15:50:15 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 15:50:15 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <004001c71d7b$4807c480$5564a8c0@HP28718835617>
References: <004001c71d7b$4807c480$5564a8c0@HP28718835617>
Message-ID: <6c00afed8b52091adc71a9fd063fc364@balancepointacoustics.com>

Tomaz Stanko plays trumpet on that soundtrack.
Damon

On Dec 11, 2006, at 3:22 PM, Jon Raskin wrote:

> Since this stretching far a field here is a right angle.
>
> I just watched Roman Polanski's 1962 movie "Knife in the Water" again. 
> The
> kiss between the hitchhiker and the wife after the husband has swam 
> back to
> shore is a much better sample of showing a very romantic stochastic 
> matrix.
> It has to be one of the most sexually charged kisses in Cinema and in 
> B&W to
> boot.
>
> In all probabilities in was going to happen and can be vectored by the
> moment but has that quality shows something outside of science and 
> religion.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
> [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Chris Broderick
> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:57 PM
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic
>
> Now that's romantic!
>
> -Chris
>
>
> --- Matthew Goodheart <matthew at matthewgoodheart.com> terrifyingly 
> wrote:
>
>> I had really loud sex with Xenakis while listening to Mingus. Gave me
>> a whole new appreciation of stochasticism.
>
>
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From timduroche at variousartists.org  Mon Dec 11 16:05:45 2006
From: timduroche at variousartists.org (Tim DuRoche)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:05:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <C1A3251E.169BC%21grand@21grand.org>
Message-ID: <187111.12880.qm@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Not me, I had my entire Balance Point collection converted to 8--track tape so I could listen to it in my shag-appointed Chevy Van.  Makes one feel like a midnight fella in a 5 o'clock town. Or Jerome Bryerton.

Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote:listening to music by someone I know while
engaged in romantic endeavors weirds me out. Is it just me?



 
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From damon at balancepointacoustics.com  Mon Dec 11 16:22:31 2006
From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:22:31 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <187111.12880.qm@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <187111.12880.qm@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Tim DuRoche wrote:

> Or Jerome Bryerton.

-Bryerton's duo last night with Willie Winant was pretty incredible.

Damon


From aurorarising at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 11 16:27:50 2006
From: aurorarising at hotmail.com (~ Aurora ~)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:27:50 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
Message-ID: <BAY124-W135064A53F4D018D0E51F5DDD70@phx.gbl>

You mean with _William_ Winant? Aurora Josephson http://www.aurorarising.com
 



> From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 16:22:31 -0800> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] old newmusic> > On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Tim DuRoche wrote:> > > Or Jerome Bryerton.> > -Bryerton's duo last night with Willie Winant was pretty incredible.> > Damon> > _______________________________________________> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group> NewMusic at music.mills.edu> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

From ingalls at mills.edu  Mon Dec 11 17:31:11 2006
From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:31:11 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
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kennan was a professor of mine in Texas.  and it was in Texas i was 
taught "romantic music" was a period of classical music. i think Kennan 
recently passed away... i can't remember his music but i would take a 
guess it was even more conservative than Webern!

-m



On Mon, 11 Dec 2006, Polly Moller wrote:

> Kent Kennan's "Night Soliloquy" is hella romantic.
> It's for flute and piano.
> P.
>
> On 12/11/06, Jacob Lindsay <jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Krannerg romantic?
>>
>>
>>
>> --- Damon Smith <damon at balancepointacoustics.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Dec 6, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Matt J. Ingalls wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> i've been on an
>>>> over-the-top-hyper-romantic-atonal kick lately,
>>>>   like Webern Passacaglia and Berg Lyric Suite
>>>>   can anyone recommend anything else?
>>>>   i'd really like to hear something with
>>> Ferneyhough-like
>>>> complexity, but with a bit more "romantic" feel,
>>> if that makes any
>>>> sense..
>>>
>>> I downloaded Xenakis' "Kraanerg" from Emusic
>>> recently and kind of felt
>>> that way about it.
>>>
>>> Damon
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>>
>> Jacob Lindsay
>> http://www.bayimproviser.com/artistdetail.asp?artist_id=44
>> http://www.myspace.com/mryellowcake
>>
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From phil at philipgelb.com  Mon Dec 11 17:53:42 2006
From: phil at philipgelb.com (Philip Gelb)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:53:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <504165.57117.qm@web53614.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <686600.54054.qm@web80607.mail.yahoo.com>

i had a similiar experience. 
However, stochasticism did not come to mind at the
time.
Anwyays, i much prefer to make out ot Feldman
i have rather fond memories of a long session through
the entire "for Philip Guston"

phil
http://philipgelb.com
http://myspace.com/philipgelb

> 
> --- Matthew Goodheart <matthew at matthewgoodheart.com>
> terrifyingly wrote:
> 
> > I had really loud sex with Xenakis while listening
> > to Mingus. Gave me a 
> > whole new appreciation of stochasticism.
> 
> 
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From aanz at mindspring.com  Mon Dec 11 17:58:19 2006
From: aanz at mindspring.com (Alan Anzalone)
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 17:58:19 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] old newmusic
In-Reply-To: <9e2c527b6fd88b3839a7956d269c1a68@balancepointacoustics.com>
References: <187111.12880.qm@web33514.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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drop the pretty, it was totally incredible.

Alan Anzalone
aanz at mindspring.com



On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:22 PM, Damon Smith wrote:

> On Dec 11, 2006, at 4:05 PM, Tim DuRoche wrote:
>
>> Or Jerome Bryerton.
>
> -Bryer