[NewMusic] kids, lawn, get off
Alan Anzalone
aanz at mindspring.com
Wed Dec 20 09:54:20 PST 2006
Well JS, about your last comment on design–
Yeah. The last major "breakthrough" in graphic design was in the 90's
with David Carson and Raygun which was heavily influenced by cubism
and dadaism (the 1920s). Quickly, every nimrod designer missed the
point and started cranking out "grunge" fonts on their Macs while the
old school designers moaned about the end of graphic design. Now it's
all about technique on the computer. The perfect example is that art
school in SF that is taking over SOMA, they spend millions in
advertising telling kids that a "career in graphic design awaits you,
you don't have to be an artist-we'll teach you", or, no talent
necessary. Unfortunately, that is pretty much true but can sometimes
produce decent results. This plan falls apart when applied to the
Fine Arts as evidenced by all the crap you see hanging on the walls
of every coffee house. I think this is all an effect of our modern
culture where anybody can be whatever they want to be, but you don't
need to be very good at it. The way I see creative music is pretty
much the same. I play because I like to and enjoy it. I don't
consider myself to be an innovator or even very good, so what. There
are still plenty of trained and untrained musicians that are. They
are my inspiration and I thank you all.
AA
aanz at mindspring.com
On Dec 20, 2006, at 1:00 AM, J. Segel wrote:
>
> --- newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:
>
>> etc.
>
> three things this is reminding me of, quality-wise. one is in hesse's
> steppenwolf, where the steppendwolf can't take the fact that mozart
> would
> listen to beethoven on a transistor radio due to the distortion,
> and mozart
> replies with something along the lines of "the music's still there
> though" (i
> paraphrase.)
>
> another is the great dissemination of "quality" made by the college
> culture of
> the 1980s, bringing good micro-brews and gourmet coffee and bagels
> to, now,
> every strip mall in america. we won that revolution, right? the
> result is
> starbucks. yay!
>
> but you're in alabama, and man you can't wait to find that starbucks.
>
> the last is that my friend victor, bass player i've been playign
> music with for
> 20+ years now, recently quit art directing at the guardian to move
> his day job
> to wired magazine. they have a few major art directors, one who is
> the young
> ivy-league stud with all the right wired cred, the other worked at
> Look and
> Time and shit like that (!). when the older guy was asking victor
> about the
> younger (30-ish, and higher paid) guy and what he did, when victor
> described it
> he said, "oh, a sampler." the older guy doesn't even use the
> computer to
> design, he draws. i've been thinking about how much design we see
> now is lifted
> from past eras. what is a 90s font?
>
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