From windrag at earthlink.net Wed Nov 1 08:30:13 2006 From: windrag at earthlink.net (Ryk Groetchen) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 08:30:13 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Soundboard - Free! Message-ID: <0EE3F81C-97B3-4B19-BFB7-A8538FF263AC@earthlink.net> Hi folks, I have a soundboard from an old upright piano that I need to let go of. It's in my living room and I need the space. It's got a great sound, good resonance (I often play flute with sympathetic strings, for example). Lots of sonic possibilities. You can have it for free if you come and pick it up (I might even give you a couple of bucks for your trouble). You should have a large vehicle and a couple of bodies to help you move it?it's heavy! width 57.5" x height 55" x depth 6" Contact me off-list if you're interested. rag --- ryk a. groetchen windrag at earthlink.net "a legacy of well-being and brotherhood pervades the hearts of those who hear the summons of the flute." -yusef lateef From aurorarising at hotmail.com Wed Nov 1 14:26:01 2006 From: aurorarising at hotmail.com (~ Aurora ~) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 14:26:01 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Birthday Pictures, Noise Pictures + More Message-ID: These links should work, also, let me know if these pages take too long to download, (off list!) as I have he new camera and I've made some other administrative changes. October 28, 2006 Halloween at Seven Hertz http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/10.28.06.htm October 19, 2006 Myles Boisen's 50th Birthday http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/10.19.06.htm October 15, 2006 Aurora Josephson Septet + Kuntz/Slusser/Smith/Walter http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/10.15.06.htm October 14, 2006 Some Noise @ 21Grand http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/10.14.06.htm October 8, 2006 Road Kill First Rehearsal http://www.aurorarising.com/Events/10.8.06.htmAurora Josephsonhttp://www.aurorarising.com From GRobair at prismb2b.com Wed Nov 1 16:52:35 2006 From: GRobair at prismb2b.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 16:52:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Teething with Max/MSP Message-ID: Among many other uses... http://createdigitalmusic.com/2006/11/01/teething-ring-maxmsp-musical-instru ment-for-babies/ From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Wed Nov 1 18:56:57 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 18:56:57 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sellage Message-ID: <317505170611011856k21474040ufe300635fd4656da@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know if you're interested! Thanks, Ava AUDIO STUFF: FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board if you are recording. User reviews: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as many other languages. You can read more about this model at http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter inch output. Needs 12v power cable. http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a site which has a newer, similar version: http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 MISC: BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and has been very reliable. From mcbrzytwa at yahoo.com Wed Nov 1 19:47:00 2006 From: mcbrzytwa at yahoo.com (maryclare brzytwa) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:47:00 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sellage In-Reply-To: <317505170611011856k21474040ufe300635fd4656da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061102034700.53469.qmail@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> how's the amp, really? Ava Mendoza wrote: Hi everyone, I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know if you're interested! Thanks, Ava AUDIO STUFF: FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board if you are recording. User reviews: http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as many other languages. You can read more about this model at http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter inch output. Needs 12v power cable. http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a site which has a newer, similar version: http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 MISC: BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and has been very reliable. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic --------------------------------- Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. From aurorarising at hotmail.com Wed Nov 1 21:16:26 2006 From: aurorarising at hotmail.com (~ Aurora ~) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 21:16:26 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] The PHLOG Message-ID: Hello all, I've been told by some of you that certain links to events didn't work in my last post to the list. I have 2.5 years worth of events archived here: http://www.aurorarising.com/Phlog.htm Take care, Aurora Josephson Click: http://www.aurorarising.com to learn more From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Wed Nov 1 22:55:42 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 22:55:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sellage In-Reply-To: <20061102034700.53469.qmail@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <317505170611011856k21474040ufe300635fd4656da@mail.gmail.com> <20061102034700.53469.qmail@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <317505170611012255n37b64f67jdd6c28ca1277cf89@mail.gmail.com> it depends what you want to use it for.. it's a good little amp and works fine, it will not produce an astounding guitar tone but would be fine for electronics, maybe flute but i don't really know. what would you play through it? On 11/1/06, maryclare brzytwa wrote: > how's the amp, really? > > Ava Mendoza wrote: Hi everyone, > > I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. > there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know > if you're interested! > > Thanks, > Ava > > > AUDIO STUFF: > > FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 > Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works > great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a > headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board > if you are recording. User reviews: > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 > > EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 > It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX > send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great > condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as > many other languages. You can read more about this model at > http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG > > SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 > A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in > really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and > guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at > http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S > > ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 > Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA > input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter > inch output. Needs 12v power cable. > http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 > > JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 > Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another > medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA > in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off > of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection > Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good > recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has > some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers > is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise > tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a > site which has a newer, similar version: > http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 > > BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 > Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has > quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v > phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 > > > MISC: > > BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo > > MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 > This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat > out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and > has been very reliable. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- www.avamendoza.com www.myspace.com/avamendoza From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Thu Nov 2 12:49:45 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 12:49:45 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sellage In-Reply-To: <20061102034700.53469.qmail@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <317505170611011856k21474040ufe300635fd4656da@mail.gmail.com> <20061102034700.53469.qmail@web55105.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <317505170611021249w1aba5269h4e27c44fcc2595c9@mail.gmail.com> hey mc, let me know if you want to check out the amp cause i have someone else who's asking about it.. On 11/1/06, maryclare brzytwa wrote: > how's the amp, really? > > Ava Mendoza wrote: Hi everyone, > > I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. > there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know > if you're interested! > > Thanks, > Ava > > > AUDIO STUFF: > > FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 > Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works > great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a > headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board > if you are recording. User reviews: > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 > > EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 > It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX > send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great > condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as > many other languages. You can read more about this model at > http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG > > SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 > A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in > really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and > guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at > http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S > > ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 > Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA > input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter > inch output. Needs 12v power cable. > http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 > > JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 > Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another > medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA > in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off > of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection > Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good > recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has > some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers > is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise > tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a > site which has a newer, similar version: > http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 > > BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 > Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has > quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v > phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 > > > MISC: > > BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo > > MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 > This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat > out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and > has been very reliable. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- www.avamendoza.com www.myspace.com/avamendoza From tjohns at mills.edu Thu Nov 2 13:47:15 2006 From: tjohns at mills.edu (Travis C. Johns) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:47:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] 60pieces/60composers/60minutes~ Message-ID: <1162504035.454a6763a8762@webmail.mills.edu> Hi everyone, Apologies for bringing this posting to the regular list but a.) the post that I posted to the events digest hasn't posted and b.) I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a situation where this show goes unposted - besides, considering that I do not personally have a piece on the bill, how self-promoting can it actually be? Regardless, tonight is the inaugural performance of Vox Novus' 60x60 Pacific Rim Mix. For those unfamiliar with 60x60, it's a marathon performance of 60 premiers of new works by 60 West Coast composers, with each composition lasting no more than 60 seconds - a very cool concept indeed. More information is available at www.voxnovus.com, but the show tonight will be at 8 PM sharp in the Mills College Ensemble Room. Cost is free and regular Thursday Night activities will ensue immediately following this event. Again, apologies for posting to the official list and all, but considering that this is 60 premiers by like 60 people we know, why not break a taboo for the good of the community, yea? Best, t. From polly.moller at gmail.com Thu Nov 2 13:50:14 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:50:14 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] 60pieces/60composers/60minutes~ In-Reply-To: <1162504035.454a6763a8762@webmail.mills.edu> References: <1162504035.454a6763a8762@webmail.mills.edu> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611021350s73daea9akab20053942fc655a@mail.gmail.com> With a live-action piece tonite @ the LSG *and* a recorded piece in the 60x60, I wasn't gonna sausage myself over either one, so thanks Travis. ;) P. On 11/2/06, Travis C. Johns wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Apologies for bringing this posting to the regular list but a.) the post > that I posted to the events digest hasn't posted and b.) I'd rather > have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a situation where this > show goes unposted - besides, considering that I do not personally have > a piece on the bill, how self-promoting can it actually be? > > Regardless, tonight is the inaugural performance of Vox Novus' 60x60 > Pacific Rim Mix. For those unfamiliar with 60x60, it's a marathon > performance of 60 premiers of new works by 60 West Coast composers, > with each composition lasting no more than 60 seconds - a very cool > concept indeed. More information is available at www.voxnovus.com, but > the show tonight will be at 8 PM sharp in the Mills College Ensemble > Room. Cost is free and regular Thursday Night activities will ensue > immediately following this event. > > Again, apologies for posting to the official list and all, but > considering that this is 60 premiers by like 60 people we know, why not > break a taboo for the good of the community, yea? > > Best, > > t. > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From mcbrzytwa at yahoo.com Thu Nov 2 13:52:20 2006 From: mcbrzytwa at yahoo.com (maryclare brzytwa) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:52:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sellage In-Reply-To: <317505170611021249w1aba5269h4e27c44fcc2595c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20061102215220.42244.qmail@web55104.mail.re4.yahoo.com> hi ava i think i will wait and get that strawberry blonde. it was really good to see you the other night...hope all is well. let's hang out soon. xoxo mc Ava Mendoza wrote: hey mc, let me know if you want to check out the amp cause i have someone else who's asking about it.. On 11/1/06, maryclare brzytwa wrote: > how's the amp, really? > > Ava Mendoza wrote: Hi everyone, > > I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. > there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know > if you're interested! > > Thanks, > Ava > > > AUDIO STUFF: > > FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 > Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works > great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a > headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board > if you are recording. User reviews: > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 > > EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 > It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX > send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great > condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as > many other languages. You can read more about this model at > http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG > > SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 > A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in > really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and > guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at > http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S > > ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 > Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA > input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter > inch output. Needs 12v power cable. > http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 > > JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 > Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another > medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA > in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off > of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection > Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good > recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has > some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers > is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise > tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a > site which has a newer, similar version: > http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 > > BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 > Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has > quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v > phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 > > > MISC: > > BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo > > MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 > This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat > out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and > has been very reliable. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > --------------------------------- > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- www.avamendoza.com www.myspace.com/avamendoza _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic --------------------------------- Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. From polly.moller at gmail.com Thu Nov 2 13:54:29 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 13:54:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sausage Message-ID: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of style. And this one's strawberry blonde even! On 11/2/06, maryclare brzytwa wrote: > hi ava > i think i will wait and get that strawberry blonde. > it was really good to see you the other night...hope all is well. > let's hang out soon. > xoxo > mc > > Ava Mendoza wrote: hey mc, let me know if you want to check out the amp cause i have > someone else who's asking about it.. > > > > On 11/1/06, maryclare brzytwa wrote: > > how's the amp, really? > > > > Ava Mendoza wrote: Hi everyone, > > > > I am selling more things! Mostly audio gear, all good condition.. > > there's also some miscellaneous stuff down at the bottom. Let me know > > if you're interested! > > > > Thanks, > > Ava > > > > > > AUDIO STUFF: > > > > FENDER SIDEKICK 15 GUITAR AMP--$55 > > Good solid state amp, 15 watts and surprisingly loud, everything works > > great. Has gain (distortion), bass/mid/treble eq knobs, and a > > headphone out which can also be used to go direct into a mixing board > > if you are recording. User reviews: > > http://reviews.harmony-central.com/reviews/Guitar+Amp/product/Fender/Sidekick+15/10/1 > > > > EURORACK UB1002 MIXING BOARD--$50 > > It has 10 inputs--2 bus mic/mono line inputs and 4 stereo inputs--FX > > send, phones out, control rom out, tape input and out. In great > > condition, low-noise, comes with user's manual in English as well as > > many other languages. You can read more about this model at > > http://www.behringer.com/UB1002/index.cfm?lang=ENG > > > > SENNHEISER 609 MICROPHONE--$80 > > A flat-profile supercardioid mic, I have barely used it so it's in > > really good condition, and has worked well for recording voice and > > guitar. Comes with user's manual. Read more at > > http://www.zzounds.com/item--SENE609S > > > > ARTCESSORIES TWO CHANNEL MIXER--$25 > > Mint condition, barely used. Has one quarter-inch input and one RCA > > input, volume knobs for each channel. One RCA output and one quarter > > inch output. Needs 12v power cable. > > http://www.directproaudio.com/product.cfm?directid=53852 > > > > JVC DUAL CASSETTE DECK--$60 > > Great for dubbing tapes, for transferring things to tape from another > > medium, or for getting things off of tape onto another medium. Has RCA > > in and out, so you can plug in a cd player or computer and record off > > of that. It has Dolby noise reduction, and uses a Dynamics Detection > > Recording processor, which basically means it's great for setting good > > recording levels and not distorting. It is an older machine, so it has > > some scratches on the top, and the glass for the cassete case covers > > is gone. Everything works great though, it makes really low-noise > > tapes. I can't find a website for this model, but here is a link to a > > site which has a newer, similar version: > > http://shopping.msn.com/prices/shp/?itemId=24239328 > > > > BEHRINGER DI100 ACTIVE DIRECT BOX-$25 > > Good quality active direct box, great condition since barely used. Has > > quarter inch input, xlr input, and xlr output. Attenuation and 18-48 v > > phantom power. Powered by 9 volt battery. > > http://www.zzounds.com/item--BEHDI100 > > > > > > MISC: > > > > BROKSONIC COLOR TV-VCR Combination--$90 > > http://www.epinions.com/pr-Broksonic_CTSGT8118T_13_in_TV_VCR_Combo > > > > MAXI-HEAT SPACE HEATER WITH FAN--$35 > > This is a 1500 watt space heater with a fan inside to blow the heat > > out, or just to be fan with no heat also. It is very warm indeed, and > > has been very reliable. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > -- > www.avamendoza.com > www.myspace.com/avamendoza > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > --------------------------------- > Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Thu Nov 2 14:14:23 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 14:14:23 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] audio gear sausage In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> References: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <317505170611021414q45fd38e5k7e3ea86cd04fd900@mail.gmail.com> yes, mc and i are back to our old evil ways.. sorry about that! On 11/2/06, Polly Moller wrote: > Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of style. > And this one's strawberry blonde even! > From 21grand at 21grand.org Thu Nov 2 14:48:29 2006 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2006 14:48:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] speaking of sausage - Werner Herzog! Message-ID: Anyone want to go see early Werner Herzog films at SF MoMA next Saturday afternoon? Werner Herzog Retrospective Signs of Life and Early Shorts by Werner Herzog Last Words, 1968, 13 min. Precautions Against Fanatics, 1969, 12 min. Signs of Life, 1968, 90 min. I can get a limited number of free tickets. Contact me off list, or on! sl From GRobair at prismb2b.com Fri Nov 3 13:05:37 2006 From: GRobair at prismb2b.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:05:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Music+One review online/announcement Message-ID: Hey gang, Although I'm not in the habit of posting Rastascan reviews on this list, I'm making an exception because nearly two dozen of us locals (and Rhodri Davies, of course) appear on Music + One by Raskin and Boisen: http://www.pointofdeparture.org/PoD8/PoD8MomentsNotice.html Of course, if anyone here wants to order a copy direct, Rastascan's Web site now has Buy Now buttons for instant PayPal spending gratification (courtesy of an angel). So, don't be shy about ordering! AND, if you want one of the ultra-rare copies with "Improvision" on the cover, just say so. Your eBaying heirs will thank you. g From weaselw at juno.com Fri Nov 3 13:23:47 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:23:47 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Music+One review online/announcement Message-ID: <20061103.132411.3780.21.weaselw@juno.com> music + one . . . . ha ha ha. for the last year i've been recording myself playing drums with "classic" free jazz records for fun and issuing the results for free on soulseek. i'm up to the low 50s in output at this point . . . ww On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 13:05:37 -0800 "Robair, Gino" writes: > Hey gang, Although I'm not in the habit of posting Rastascan reviews on this > list, I'm making an exception because nearly two dozen of us locals (and > Rhodri Davies, of course) appear on Music + One by Raskin and Boisen: > http://www.pointofdeparture.org/PoD8/PoD8MomentsNotice.html From jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com Fri Nov 3 15:24:17 2006 From: jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com (Jacob Lindsay) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 15:24:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Music+One review online/announcement In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061103232418.35237.qmail@web58012.mail.re3.yahoo.com> -- "Robair, Gino" wrote: > So, don't be shy about ordering! AND, if you want > one of the ultra-rare > copies with "Improvision" on the cover, Disclaimer: Hey folks. Be warned. I ordered a copy of this and my vision has not improved at all! Jacob Lindsay http://www.bayimproviser.com/artistdetail.asp?artist_id=44 ____________________________________________________________________________________ Low, Low, Low Rates! Check out Yahoo! Messenger's cheap PC-to-Phone call rates (http://voice.yahoo.com) From GRobair at prismb2b.com Fri Nov 3 16:26:25 2006 From: GRobair at prismb2b.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 16:26:25 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Music + One and improvision Message-ID: Jacob Lindsay scribbled: <> Well, you know what they say about musical onanism. From gcremaschi at hotmail.com Fri Nov 3 18:31:04 2006 From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi) Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2006 18:31:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: folks wrote: >I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a situation where >this show goes unposted >Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of style. I'm curious about the language here - are the meat references common English usage of some sort, or have y'all invented something on this list? And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? thanks, George _________________________________________________________________ Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more?then map the best route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 From tjohns at mills.edu Fri Nov 3 19:28:29 2006 From: tjohns at mills.edu (Travis C. Johns) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 19:28:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> Hmm, considering that one of those quotes is attributed to me, I suppose I should probably add my two cents or something. And that is, I don't know - at all. I'm still new-ish here. As far as I can tell, the trend seems to be that whenever someone does something like really boneheaded, people start talking about meat - maybe its a California thing... t. Quoting George Cremaschi : > > folks wrote: > > >I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a > situation where > >this show goes unposted > > >Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of > style. > > I'm curious about the language here - are the meat > references common English usage of some sort, or > have y'all invented something on this list? > And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? > > thanks, > George > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more then map the > best > route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 > > From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Fri Nov 3 20:05:58 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:05:58 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani Message-ID: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> i went to tatsuya nakatani's show at 1510 8th street with phillip greenlief, george cremaschi, and tom djll on wednesday.. great playing by everyone, it was a real treat of a show.. tatsuya is a very beautiful player, he has an enormous vocabulary and a really strong concept of texture and timbre in percussion.. at this show and on the recordings of his i've heard he brings in loose, slow pulses a lot in really malleable, subtle ways. i guess he is similar to le quan ninh but he has a really special kind of ritualistic sense to his playing.. i bought one of his solo cds, Green Report 12, it is super and everyone should buy it! he really creates a huge, immersive world from solo percussion.. i wish that Mills had gotten wind of him in time to hook something up for him there while he was out here.. he's a semi-young player on tour who could use the help, and one of the most interesting percussionists in the country..it seems like he'd be ideal for a workshop or concert at mills.. er, nudge.. anyway it was a great show on wednesday and wish more people had made it out.. nastrovia, ava From aanz at mindspring.com Fri Nov 3 20:22:57 2006 From: aanz at mindspring.com (Alan Anzalone) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 20:22:57 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> References: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> Message-ID: <3FE52038-C2C8-4FA6-936C-022AA73E37AC@mindspring.com> I'm amazed this sausage thing is still around. It's turned and should be fed to that damn yapping dog in my neighbors backyard. On Nov 3, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Travis C. Johns wrote: > Hmm, considering that one of those quotes is attributed to me, I > suppose > I should probably add my two cents or something. And that is, I don't > know - at all. I'm still new-ish here. As far as I can tell, the trend > seems to be that whenever someone does something like really > boneheaded, people start talking about meat - maybe its a California > thing... > > > t. > > Quoting George Cremaschi : > >> >> folks wrote: >> >>> I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a >> situation where >>> this show goes unposted >> >>> Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of >> style. >> >> I'm curious about the language here - are the meat >> references common English usage of some sort, or >> have y'all invented something on this list? >> And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? >> >> thanks, >> George >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more?then map the >> best >> route! http://local.live.com?FORM=MGA001 >> >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From bradysharp at gmail.com Fri Nov 3 21:44:10 2006 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:44:10 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> References: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> Message-ID: It's funny people that people that don't know what it refers to continue to use it. I suppose that's how meanings evolve and phrases work their way into dialects. "Slinging Sausages" will be the next hip phrase.. It's related to promoting gigs/yourself on this list instead of using the newmus-events-list, and stemmed from comments about diminuitive sausages served at a certain gig that was translated as a Freudian symbol. a classic example: from: Brady Sharp (bradysharp at gmail.com) to: newmus at mills.edu I love their sausage. Brady ... followed by a signature of an entire discography and a complete years' calendar of upcoming gigs, which far eclipses the rather meaningless post. There... now I've further perpetuated it by explaining it, so I'll stop! Brady On 11/3/06, Travis C. Johns wrote: > Hmm, considering that one of those quotes is attributed to me, I suppose > I should probably add my two cents or something. And that is, I don't > know - at all. I'm still new-ish here. As far as I can tell, the trend > seems to be that whenever someone does something like really > boneheaded, people start talking about meat - maybe its a California > thing... > > > t. > > Quoting George Cremaschi : > > > > > folks wrote: > > > > >I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a > > situation where > > >this show goes unposted > > > > >Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of > > style. > > > > I'm curious about the language here - are the meat > > references common English usage of some sort, or > > have y'all invented something on this list? > > And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? > > > > thanks, > > George > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Find a local pizza place, music store, museum and more?then map the > > best > > route! http://local.live.com?FORMMGA001 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Fri Nov 3 23:01:58 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2006 23:01:58 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] speaking of sausage - Werner Herzog! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000501c6ffdf$1f371010$4001a8c0@PG> Damn! I'd go, but I'm going to be in Portland - those are certainly rare - you can find them on DVD or video, but they hardly ever show in "screening rooms"...if you're into Herzog, these are recommended for a more complete appreciation of his work. Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 2:48 PM To: Banewmus List Subject: [NewMusic] speaking of sausage - Werner Herzog! Anyone want to go see early Werner Herzog films at SF MoMA next Saturday afternoon? Werner Herzog Retrospective Signs of Life and Early Shorts by Werner Herzog Last Words, 1968, 13 min. Precautions Against Fanatics, 1969, 12 min. Signs of Life, 1968, 90 min. I can get a limited number of free tickets. Contact me off list, or on! sl _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jfheule at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 01:13:32 2006 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 01:13:32 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> I saw him on Sunday (with Joelle Leandre, Kyle Bruckmann and Damon Smith) and Monday (with Shoko Hikage and Theresa Wong). Both shows were fantastic. Great use of space, and I really appreciated his very non-percussive approach to the drum set (he barely touched any drum sticks). The Bay Area can also be happy about him bringing the thizz face into improv. jacob On 11/3/06, Ava Mendoza wrote: > i went to tatsuya nakatani's show at 1510 8th street with phillip > greenlief, george cremaschi, and tom djll on wednesday.. great playing > by everyone, it was a real treat of a show.. > > tatsuya is a very beautiful player, he has an enormous vocabulary and > a really strong concept of texture and timbre in percussion.. at this > show and on the recordings of his i've heard he brings in loose, slow > pulses a lot in really malleable, subtle ways. i guess he is similar > to le quan ninh but he has a really special kind of ritualistic sense > to his playing.. > i bought one of his solo cds, Green Report 12, it is super and > everyone should buy it! he > really creates a huge, immersive world from solo percussion.. > > i wish that Mills had gotten wind of him in time to hook something up > for him there while he was out here.. he's a semi-young player on tour > who could use the help, and one of the most interesting percussionists > in the country..it seems like he'd be ideal for a workshop or concert > at mills.. er, nudge.. anyway it was a great show on wednesday and > wish more people had made it out.. > > nastrovia, > ava > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- http://heule.us From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 02:05:16 2006 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 02:05:16 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <317505170611040205w2a77bd9do294f7cccbf42976b@mail.gmail.com> yes yes.. but what is a thizz face? On 11/4/06, jacob felix heule wrote: > I saw him on Sunday (with Joelle Leandre, Kyle Bruckmann and Damon > Smith) and Monday (with Shoko Hikage and Theresa Wong). Both shows > were fantastic. Great use of space, and I really appreciated his very > non-percussive approach to the drum set (he barely touched any drum > sticks). The Bay Area can also be happy about him bringing the thizz > face into improv. > > jacob > > On 11/3/06, Ava Mendoza wrote: > > i went to tatsuya nakatani's show at 1510 8th street with phillip > > greenlief, george cremaschi, and tom djll on wednesday.. great playing > > by everyone, it was a real treat of a show.. > > > > tatsuya is a very beautiful player, he has an enormous vocabulary and > > a really strong concept of texture and timbre in percussion.. at this > > show and on the recordings of his i've heard he brings in loose, slow > > pulses a lot in really malleable, subtle ways. i guess he is similar > > to le quan ninh but he has a really special kind of ritualistic sense > > to his playing.. > > i bought one of his solo cds, Green Report 12, it is super and > > everyone should buy it! he > > really creates a huge, immersive world from solo percussion.. > > > > i wish that Mills had gotten wind of him in time to hook something up > > for him there while he was out here.. he's a semi-young player on tour > > who could use the help, and one of the most interesting percussionists > > in the country..it seems like he'd be ideal for a workshop or concert > > at mills.. er, nudge.. anyway it was a great show on wednesday and > > wish more people had made it out.. > > > > nastrovia, > > ava > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > -- > http://heule.us > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- www.avamendoza.com www.myspace.com/avamendoza From bradysharp at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 09:44:34 2006 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 11:44:34 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Tatsuya is a great player and a great person. He stayed at my place when he came through Nashville. He's a very textural and spiritual player, and his solo set was pretty incredible. Everyone should check him out. Jacob, I was sorry to miss your gig at Ruby Green when you came through, I really wanted to make it but was unable. I hope you had a respectable attendance, but given the nature of this town I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't. Brady On 11/4/06, jacob felix heule wrote: > I saw him on Sunday (with Joelle Leandre, Kyle Bruckmann and Damon > Smith) and Monday (with Shoko Hikage and Theresa Wong). Both shows > were fantastic. Great use of space, and I really appreciated his very > non-percussive approach to the drum set (he barely touched any drum > sticks). The Bay Area can also be happy about him bringing the thizz > face into improv. > > jacob > > On 11/3/06, Ava Mendoza wrote: > > i went to tatsuya nakatani's show at 1510 8th street with phillip > > greenlief, george cremaschi, and tom djll on wednesday.. great playing > > by everyone, it was a real treat of a show.. > > > > tatsuya is a very beautiful player, he has an enormous vocabulary and > > a really strong concept of texture and timbre in percussion.. at this > > show and on the recordings of his i've heard he brings in loose, slow > > pulses a lot in really malleable, subtle ways. i guess he is similar > > to le quan ninh but he has a really special kind of ritualistic sense > > to his playing.. > > i bought one of his solo cds, Green Report 12, it is super and > > everyone should buy it! he > > really creates a huge, immersive world from solo percussion.. > > > > i wish that Mills had gotten wind of him in time to hook something up > > for him there while he was out here.. he's a semi-young player on tour > > who could use the help, and one of the most interesting percussionists > > in the country..it seems like he'd be ideal for a workshop or concert > > at mills.. er, nudge.. anyway it was a great show on wednesday and > > wish more people had made it out.. > > > > nastrovia, > > ava > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > -- > http://heule.us > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From michaelz at zoka.com Sat Nov 4 10:02:56 2006 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:02:56 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Music+One review online/announcement In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 11/3/06, Robair, Gino wrote: >Hey gang, >Although I'm not in the habit of posting Rastascan reviews on this list, I'm >making an exception because nearly two dozen of us locals (and Rhodri >Davies, of course) appear on Music + One by Raskin and Boisen: > >http://www.pointofdeparture.org/PoD8/PoD8MomentsNotice.html Bassist George Gremaschi -- wasn't he in The Misspelled Quartet? MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From michaelz at zoka.com Sat Nov 4 10:06:20 2006 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:06:20 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> Message-ID: On 11/3/06, Brady Sharp wrote: >It's funny people that people that don't know what it refers to >continue to use it. I suppose that's how meanings evolve and phrases >work their way into dialects. "Slinging Sausages" will be the next >hip phrase.. > >It's related to promoting gigs/yourself on this list instead of using >the newmus-events-list, Polly Moller will tell you that it refers to accidently posting a "private" message to the entire list. (Check that Reply-To: header.) >and stemmed from comments about diminuitive >sausages served at a certain gig that was translated as a Freudian >symbol. You'd have to ask Damon about that. MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From polly.moller at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 10:25:29 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 10:25:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: <1162610909.454c08dd07539@webmail.mills.edu> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611041025r1625366i691b8411fa7b615d@mail.gmail.com> My understanding has always been that it refers *both* to spamming the list with your own gig and accidentally posting a private message to the list. I'm still using the term because it's more fun that way than saying, "now now, stop doing that," like a pompous netiquette nazi. Brian Kenney Fresno has a hella cool song about sausages. See his myspace under "Donnerybeck's Machine". ;) P. On 11/4/06, Michael Zelner wrote: > On 11/3/06, Brady Sharp wrote: > > >It's funny people that people that don't know what it refers to > >continue to use it. I suppose that's how meanings evolve and phrases > >work their way into dialects. "Slinging Sausages" will be the next > >hip phrase.. > > > >It's related to promoting gigs/yourself on this list instead of using > >the newmus-events-list, > > Polly Moller will tell you that it refers to accidently posting a > "private" message to the entire list. (Check that Reply-To: header.) > > >and stemmed from comments about diminuitive > >sausages served at a certain gig that was translated as a Freudian > >symbol. > > You'd have to ask Damon about that. > > MZ > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From 21grand at 21grand.org Sat Nov 4 13:27:41 2006 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 13:27:41 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale Message-ID: I realize this is somewhat short notice, but 21 Grand is seriously thinking about having a record swap/cultural product sale/opportunity for folks to buy stuff to give to other people or keep for themselves for the holidays event on Friday, December 1st. CDs/records/videos/t-shirts/gear taking up space in your abode/books, crafts, whatever It would be free and open to the public as part of the Oakland Art Murmur first Friday art walk thing. It would take place from 7-10 pm. Anyone interested? sl 21 Grand is a 501(c)3 non-profit multi-disciplinary arts space we have moved to 416 25th St. (at Broadway) Oakland, CA 94612 21grand at 21grand.org (510) 444-7263 From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Sat Nov 4 13:38:41 2006 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:38:41 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: yes, count me in. On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > I realize this is somewhat short notice, but 21 Grand is seriously > thinking > about having a record swap/cultural product sale/opportunity for folks > to > buy stuff to give to other people or keep for themselves for the > holidays > event on Friday, December 1st. > > CDs/records/videos/t-shirts/gear taking up space in your abode/books, > crafts, whatever > > It would be free and open to the public as part of the Oakland Art > Murmur > first Friday art walk thing. > > It would take place from 7-10 pm. > > Anyone interested? > > sl > > > 21 Grand is a 501(c)3 non-profit multi-disciplinary arts space > we have moved to 416 25th St. (at Broadway) > Oakland, CA 94612 > 21grand at 21grand.org > (510) 444-7263 > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From jfheule at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 13:50:12 2006 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 13:50:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <317505170611040205w2a77bd9do294f7cccbf42976b@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> <317505170611040205w2a77bd9do294f7cccbf42976b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860611041350k70306375q4643eb520c2d253e@mail.gmail.com> First I do like this I put a look on my face like I smell some piss Thizz is the forefather of hyphy -- Bay Area hip hop culture based around "going dumb" and, in the case of thizz, taking ecstasy. Along with dancing like an idiot (thizzle dance), part of "getting stupid" is making a particular kind of funny face (thizz face). The lyrics quoted above (from As Mac Dre's "Thizzle Dance") explain the approach taken by the innovator of thizzin. http://www.marinwebstars.org/webstars/Jasmine/images/the%20thizz%20face.gif j On 11/4/06, Ava Mendoza wrote: > yes yes.. but what is a thizz face? -- http://heule.us From jfheule at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 14:06:55 2006 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:06:55 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860611041406j1d77eefdtfcabaf4735c0453c@mail.gmail.com> The Nashville show turned out very well actually. There was a good-sized and receptive audience, and it turned out to be the highest-paying show of the tour. It was more of a noise/rock show -- I obviously don't know how that compares to (or crosses over with) whatever sort of improv scene you have there. I was also quite surprised to see that we were the main "critics' pick" for the week in the Nashville Scene: http://tinyurl.com/yekoqr . jacob On 11/4/06, Brady Sharp wrote: > Jacob, I was sorry to miss your gig at Ruby Green when you came > through, I really wanted to make it but was unable. I hope you had a > respectable attendance, but given the nature of this town I wouldn't > be surprised if you didn't. > > Brady -- http://heule.us From aanz at mindspring.com Sat Nov 4 14:49:29 2006 From: aanz at mindspring.com (Alan Anzalone) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 14:49:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: and I! Alan Anzalone aanz at mindspring.com On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, damon wrote: > yes, count me in. > On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > >> I realize this is somewhat short notice, but 21 Grand is seriously >> thinking >> about having a record swap/cultural product sale/opportunity for >> folks >> to >> buy stuff to give to other people or keep for themselves for the >> holidays >> event on Friday, December 1st. >> >> CDs/records/videos/t-shirts/gear taking up space in your abode/books, >> crafts, whatever >> >> It would be free and open to the public as part of the Oakland Art >> Murmur >> first Friday art walk thing. >> >> It would take place from 7-10 pm. >> >> Anyone interested? >> >> sl >> >> >> 21 Grand is a 501(c)3 non-profit multi-disciplinary arts space >> we have moved to 416 25th St. (at Broadway) >> Oakland, CA 94612 >> 21grand at 21grand.org >> (510) 444-7263 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From bradysharp at gmail.com Sat Nov 4 15:43:08 2006 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 17:43:08 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611041406j1d77eefdtfcabaf4735c0453c@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611041406j1d77eefdtfcabaf4735c0453c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Yeah, we have some friends at the Scene, and a decent audience at some shows, you just never can tell. Glad yours went well. As far as the "type of scene" here, it's pretty much noise/free/rock/avant-folk/anything you can get. There's so little of anything that all the small factions kind of clump together. Hopefully I'll catch you next time! Brady On 11/4/06, jacob felix heule wrote: > The Nashville show turned out very well actually. There was a > good-sized and receptive audience, and it turned out to be the > highest-paying show of the tour. It was more of a noise/rock show -- I > obviously don't know how that compares to (or crosses over with) > whatever sort of improv scene you have there. I was also quite > surprised to see that we were the main "critics' pick" for the week in > the Nashville Scene: http://tinyurl.com/yekoqr . > > jacob > > On 11/4/06, Brady Sharp wrote: > > Jacob, I was sorry to miss your gig at Ruby Green when you came > > through, I really wanted to make it but was unable. I hope you had a > > respectable attendance, but given the nature of this town I wouldn't > > be surprised if you didn't. > > > > Brady > > -- > http://heule.us > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sat Nov 4 16:44:32 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sat, 4 Nov 2006 16:44:32 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002401c70073$8f6e7b90$4001a8c0@PG> I can do that...representing Em... Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Anzalone Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:49 PM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale and I! Alan Anzalone aanz at mindspring.com On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, damon wrote: > yes, count me in. > On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > >> I realize this is somewhat short notice, but 21 Grand is seriously >> thinking >> about having a record swap/cultural product sale/opportunity for >> folks >> to >> buy stuff to give to other people or keep for themselves for the >> holidays >> event on Friday, December 1st. >> >> CDs/records/videos/t-shirts/gear taking up space in your abode/books, >> crafts, whatever >> >> It would be free and open to the public as part of the Oakland Art >> Murmur >> first Friday art walk thing. >> >> It would take place from 7-10 pm. >> >> Anyone interested? >> >> sl >> >> >> 21 Grand is a 501(c)3 non-profit multi-disciplinary arts space >> we have moved to 416 25th St. (at Broadway) >> Oakland, CA 94612 >> 21grand at 21grand.org >> (510) 444-7263 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Sun Nov 5 08:58:34 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 08:58:34 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale In-Reply-To: <002401c70073$8f6e7b90$4001a8c0@PG> References: <002401c70073$8f6e7b90$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611050858s41fd7729g2c37e18102c1ad39@mail.gmail.com> I'm in too. P. On 11/4/06, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > I can do that...representing Em... > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Anzalone > Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 2:49 PM > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning sale > > and I! > Alan Anzalone > aanz at mindspring.com > > > > On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:38 PM, damon wrote: > > > yes, count me in. > > On Nov 4, 2006, at 1:27 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > > > >> I realize this is somewhat short notice, but 21 Grand is seriously > >> thinking > >> about having a record swap/cultural product sale/opportunity for > >> folks > >> to > >> buy stuff to give to other people or keep for themselves for the > >> holidays > >> event on Friday, December 1st. > >> > >> CDs/records/videos/t-shirts/gear taking up space in your abode/books, > >> crafts, whatever > >> > >> It would be free and open to the public as part of the Oakland Art > >> Murmur > >> first Friday art walk thing. > >> > >> It would take place from 7-10 pm. > >> > >> Anyone interested? > >> > >> sl > >> > >> > >> 21 Grand is a 501(c)3 non-profit multi-disciplinary arts space > >> we have moved to 416 25th St. (at Broadway) > >> Oakland, CA 94612 > >> 21grand at 21grand.org > >> (510) 444-7263 > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu > >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Nov 5 10:12:14 2006 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 10:12:14 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Nashville cats (was Re: natsuya takatani) In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611041406j1d77eefdtfcabaf4735c0453c@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611041406j1d77eefdtfcabaf4735c0453c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 11/4/06, jacob felix heule wrote: >I was also quite surprised to see that we were the main "critics' >pick" for the week in >the Nashville Scene: http://tinyurl.com/yekoqr . Hah -- take that, Aerosmith! MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From grobair at emusician.com Sun Nov 5 12:04:58 2006 From: grobair at emusician.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 14:04:58 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning References: Message-ID: <41E4A72A1EA81E429C136B30030C141A0190F4@KSOPEXC03.intertec.com> I'd like to take part. Be prepared to see some rarities, people. g From coreyfogel at gmail.com Sun Nov 5 12:07:15 2006 From: coreyfogel at gmail.com (corey fogel) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:07:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani Message-ID: <7a259c0611051207wd759efw7c94370bac410d10@mail.gmail.com> a little late, but, I want to say I saw the performance in Berkeley on Monday and I found it pretty boring. It was not ungraceful, not unmusical, not even uninspiring necessarily. plenty of great colors, space, melody, texture. but i felt his performance was ultimately more precious than alive. the dynamics were a little understated for me. I didnt see much fluidity or (ANY evolution) happening as far as direction/narrative. I really liked the way theresa treated alot of moments with perfect contrast. but, overall, i thought it was that seemingly arbitrary indeterminant collagey disconnect of probable-improbable spontaneous music. I could have used either alot more nuturing of raw expression, stream of consciousness vocabulary, anything at any moment, or, more nurturing of the compositional entities of ideas born, implemented in the moment. personally, i dont prefer the in-between, which i feel is extremely common. the wishy-washy need to play the improv genre. -- corey fogel ????? http://myspace.com/coreymarcfogel http://calarts.edu/~cfogel/ From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Sun Nov 5 12:23:48 2006 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:23:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <7a259c0611051207wd759efw7c94370bac410d10@mail.gmail.com> References: <7a259c0611051207wd759efw7c94370bac410d10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: For some reason I have gone out to see music for 7 nights straight. Monday was not my favorite, I liked the solo but I really preferred the quartet at 1510, even the quiet/EAI sections felt charged with energy, Greenleif, Cremaschi Djll all sounded great. As far as the quartet I did, "not being alive" is not an option with Joelle playing next you, so that set seemed to have plenty of life. I don't find lack of evolution to be a problem, development in improvised music can be way over rated. damon On Nov 5, 2006, at 12:07 PM, corey fogel wrote: > a little late, but, I want to say I saw the performance in Berkeley on > Monday and I found it pretty boring. It was not ungraceful, not > unmusical, > not even uninspiring necessarily. plenty of great colors, space, > melody, > texture. but i felt his performance was ultimately more precious than > alive. > the dynamics were a little understated for me. I didnt see much > fluidity or > (ANY evolution) happening as far as direction/narrative. I really > liked the > way theresa treated alot of moments with perfect contrast. but, > overall, i > thought it was that seemingly arbitrary indeterminant collagey > disconnect of > probable-improbable spontaneous music. I could have used either alot > more > nuturing of raw expression, stream of consciousness vocabulary, > anything at > any moment, or, more nurturing of the compositional entities of ideas > born, > implemented in the moment. personally, i dont prefer the in-between, > which i > feel is extremely common. the wishy-washy need to play the improv > genre. > > -- > corey fogel ????? > http://myspace.com/coreymarcfogel > http://calarts.edu/~cfogel/ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From suki at zoka.com Sun Nov 5 12:32:07 2006 From: suki at zoka.com (Suki O'Kane) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:32:07 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] natsuya takatani In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611041350k70306375q4643eb520c2d253e@mail.gmail.com> References: <317505170611032005y1c46ae49l754171a969276a18@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611040113u64701140pb0989f453d8941e4@mail.gmail.com> <317505170611040205w2a77bd9do294f7cccbf42976b@mail.gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611041350k70306375q4643eb520c2d253e@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: >First I do like this >I put a look on my face like I smell some piss your own? wait. don't answer that. > >http://www.marinwebstars.org/webstars/Jasmine/images/the%20thizz%20face.gif It's just too bad hyphy has hooked up with truckloads of low-quality e. That's a tweakin face if I ever saw one. http://www.ecstasydata.org/images/2003/1146_lg_smiley.jpg > >On 11/4/06, Ava Mendoza wrote: > > yes yes.. but what is a thizz face? > -s From praemedia at yahoo.com Sun Nov 5 12:58:39 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 12:58:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning In-Reply-To: <41E4A72A1EA81E429C136B30030C141A0190F4@KSOPEXC03.intertec.com> Message-ID: <20061105205839.14026.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> count me in....maybe i'll bring in all the import junk i've only been selling on the webshop... ...and i always make a GREAT consumer of other peoples products.... cheers. lance --- "Robair, Gino" wrote: > I'd like to take part. > Be prepared to see some rarities, people. > g > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) From aurorarising at hotmail.com Sun Nov 5 13:26:09 2006 From: aurorarising at hotmail.com (~ Aurora ~) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2006 13:26:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads Message-ID: Hello all, Please send your ads for the December Transbay calendar to: aurorarising at hotmail.com Please submit them in the next week. Thank you, Aurora Josephson From shiurba at pacbell.net Mon Nov 6 01:01:17 2006 From: shiurba at pacbell.net (John Shiurba) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:01:17 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: hey Narcissus, Trout Mask side 4, track 3 ha ha From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Nov 6 01:52:10 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 01:52:10 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000c01c70189$3ab00530$4001a8c0@PG> Dear Aurora, Here is my (Evander Music) Transbay Ad for December: Evander Music Presents: Phillip Greenlief Joelle Leandre Duo CD Release Party Special Guest: Maggie Nichols Sunday, Dec 3 2006 8:00 PM Community Music Center 544 Capp Street Between 20th and 21st Streets San Francisco Tickets: $15, $10 w/student ID Evander Music Presents Maggie Nichols, Joelle Leandre and Phillip Greenlief solo and in trio at CMC! Please join us for a very special event celebrating the release of "That Over Desire of Object" on Evander Music, featuring our special guest, the great improvising British vocalist Maggie Nichols. Nichols and Leadre make up 2/3 of the trio Les Diaboliques, with Swiss pianist Irene Schweizer. THANKS! Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of ~ Aurora ~ Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 1:26 PM To: ba-newmus at eartha.mills.edu Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads Hello all, Please send your ads for the December Transbay calendar to: aurorarising at hotmail.com Please submit them in the next week. Thank you, Aurora Josephson _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Nov 6 10:01:49 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:01:49 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads In-Reply-To: <000c01c70189$3ab00530$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: <009501c701cd$a46dc810$4001a8c0@PG> Whoops! Sorry, I didn't mean to post my Dec. ad here... Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Phillip Greenlief Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads Dear Aurora, Here is my (Evander Music) Transbay Ad for December: From aanz at mindspring.com Mon Nov 6 10:51:50 2006 From: aanz at mindspring.com (Alan Anzalone) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 10:51:50 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads In-Reply-To: <009501c701cd$a46dc810$4001a8c0@PG> References: <009501c701cd$a46dc810$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: <4FE8071E-5FCC-4E87-9C15-6763C7281F76@mindspring.com> Too many visits to Top Dog! Alan Anzalone aanz at mindspring.com On Nov 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > Whoops! > Sorry, I didn't mean to post my Dec. ad here... > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Phillip > Greenlief > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads > > Dear Aurora, > > Here is my (Evander Music) Transbay Ad for December: > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Nov 6 11:25:42 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 11:25:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads In-Reply-To: <4FE8071E-5FCC-4E87-9C15-6763C7281F76@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <002c01c701d9$59e02020$4001a8c0@PG> What are you talking about? What are you saying? Top Dog has nothing to do with it... A guy has to eat, right? (I don't mean: eat right...) I'm just an old critter with too many deeds on my desk... Peace, y'all! PG Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Alan Anzalone Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 10:52 AM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads Too many visits to Top Dog! Alan Anzalone aanz at mindspring.com On Nov 6, 2006, at 10:01 AM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > Whoops! > Sorry, I didn't mean to post my Dec. ad here... > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Phillip > Greenlief > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay Calendar Ads > > Dear Aurora, > > Here is my (Evander Music) Transbay Ad for December: > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From GRobair at prismb2b.com Mon Nov 6 11:36:28 2006 From: GRobair at prismb2b.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 11:36:28 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay sausage Message-ID: PG Saxo screamed: <> I think Mssr. Anzalone was referring to the fact that you were in sausage mode. Or, at least that's how I read his comment. Now about Trout Mask Replica, side 4, track 3... From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Nov 6 13:17:13 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:17:13 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay sausage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001601c701e8$ee67a9c0$4001a8c0@PG> Come on, G - you know I hardly ever "scream"... And Alan's comment was received and comprehended - I just had to pretend I was outraged for a moment... Much Love to all, PG Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Robair, Gino Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 11:36 AM To: New Music Subject: [NewMusic] Your December Transbay sausage PG Saxo screamed: <> I think Mssr. Anzalone was referring to the fact that you were in sausage mode. Or, at least that's how I read his comment. Now about Trout Mask Replica, side 4, track 3... _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 13:22:51 2006 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:22:51 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning In-Reply-To: <20061105205839.14026.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> References: <41E4A72A1EA81E429C136B30030C141A0190F4@KSOPEXC03.intertec.com> <20061105205839.14026.qmail@web51606.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hey peeps, I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd probably be there mostly to listen/buy. So I will suggest that you peeps selling cds bring cd players with headphones! On 11/5/06, Praemedia wrote: > count me in....maybe i'll bring in all the import junk > i've only been selling on the webshop... > > ...and i always make a GREAT consumer of other peoples > products.... > > cheers. > > lance > > > --- "Robair, Gino" wrote: > > > I'd like to take part. > > Be prepared to see some rarities, people. > > g > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business > (http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com) > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 13:29:27 2006 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:29:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Don't believe what everyone else tells you. There is no new terminology being developed on this list. Everyone is being very literal. Real sausage is being thrown about. One just hit me in the eye. It's all pretty disturbing and a bit gruesome. Matt On 11/3/06, George Cremaschi was like: > > folks wrote: > > >I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a situation where > >this show goes unposted > > >Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of style. > > I'm curious about the language here - are the meat > references common English usage of some sort, or > have y'all invented something on this list? > And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? > > thanks, > George From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 13:33:11 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:33:11 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40611021354k76ccd9f3nbec96014d53f4c70@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611061333q620afb33p6dfef0f56e44ba0f@mail.gmail.com> Yeah, they long ago ceased to be risque metaphor. Now they are being brought to shows and sliced lengthwise in half and cut into bite-size pieces and served with pasta! And y'all saw how many there were at the Skronkathon. All the veggie ones were devoured and there were lots of meat ones left over to be improvised with. P. On 11/6/06, Matt Davignon wrote: > Don't believe what everyone else tells you. There is no new > terminology being developed on this list. Everyone is being very > literal. Real sausage is being thrown about. One just hit me in the > eye. It's all pretty disturbing and a bit gruesome. > > Matt > > On 11/3/06, George Cremaschi was like: > > > > folks wrote: > > > > >I'd rather have have a flurry of folks slinging meat than a situation where > > >this show goes unposted > > > > >Wow, we're throwing sausages around today like they're going out of style. > > > > I'm curious about the language here - are the meat > > references common English usage of some sort, or > > have y'all invented something on this list? > > And regardless, what the hell are you talking about? > > > > thanks, > > George > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Nov 6 13:36:57 2006 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:36:57 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The actual history has to do with a concert a long time ago where I served sausages. I was trying to draw a real life parallel to an art movement called "Capitalist realism" that included Gerhard Richter and Sigmar Polke. Polke put sausages in his abstract drawings - I served actual sausage with our abstract music. Gino latched on to it, and used it as a term for when someone violates the list rule by posting an event on the discussion list as I often did in my signature. However, since the lists were split because people complained that they wanted events and not discussion and not vice-versa the actual "rule" it violates is the unspoken Bay Area rule of: "always complain about attendance at our gigs but never, ever, do any promotion and you must make fun of those who do" damon smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon Just released: bpa009 "sperrgut" birgit ulher/damon smith/martin blume bpa 010 "cruxes" aurora josephson/joelle leandre/damon smith/martin blume bpa 011 "sextesense" john butcher/aaron bennett/henry kaiser/danielle degruttola/damon smith/jerome bryerton From weaselw at juno.com Mon Nov 6 13:59:02 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:59:02 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning Message-ID: <20061106.140044.3316.45.weaselw@juno.com> > I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd probably be there mostly to listen/buy. if that lp is "saturday night fever" soundtrack, don't bring it because that's the record i'm bringing to sell. ww From weaselw at juno.com Mon Nov 6 13:59:27 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:59:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" Message-ID: <20061106.140044.3316.46.weaselw@juno.com> PENIS ww On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 13:33:11 -0800 "Polly Moller" writes: > Yeah, they long ago ceased to be risque metaphor. Now they are > being brought to shows and sliced lengthwise in half and cut into > bite-size pieces and served with pasta! > > And y'all saw how many there were at the Skronkathon. > All the veggie ones were devoured and there were lots of meat > ones left over to be improvised with. > > P. From bthrew at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 14:00:38 2006 From: bthrew at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:38 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <454FB086.3090200@gmail.com> I propose a new meaning to "sausage": sausage (noun): a meaningless thread with lots of filler and little to no nutritional value From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Nov 6 14:00:58 2006 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:00:58 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning Message-ID: >> I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd probably be there mostly >>to listen/buy. >if that lp is "saturday night fever" soundtrack, don't bring it because >that's the record i'm bringing to sell. >ww - I got dibs on being the sole seller of the "Xanadu" soundtrack album sl From praemedia at yahoo.com Mon Nov 6 14:05:37 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:05:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning In-Reply-To: <20061106.140044.3316.45.weaselw@juno.com> Message-ID: <20061106220538.99237.qmail@web51609.mail.yahoo.com> ha! well i'm bringing it on 8-track. i win. i am top sausage! --- weasel walter wrote: > > I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd > probably be there mostly > to listen/buy. > > if that lp is "saturday night fever" soundtrack, > don't bring it because > that's the record i'm bringing to sell. > > ww > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate Click now to apply http://yahoo.degrees.info From praemedia at yahoo.com Mon Nov 6 14:06:47 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:06:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061106220647.21655.qmail@web51608.mail.yahoo.com> sold! anmd if you have the laserdisc, I'll pay top dollar for that too! --- Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > >> I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd > probably be there mostly > >>to listen/buy. > > >if that lp is "saturday night fever" soundtrack, > don't bring it because > >that's the record i'm bringing to sell. > > >ww > > - I got dibs on being the sole seller of the > "Xanadu" soundtrack album > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link For just $24.99/mo., Vonage offers unlimited local and long- distance calling. Sign up now. http://www.vonage.com/startsavingnow/ From praemedia at yahoo.com Mon Nov 6 14:06:33 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 14:06:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Long discussed record swap/garage cleaning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20061106220633.47976.qmail@web51601.mail.yahoo.com> sold! anmd if you have the laserdisc, I'll pay top dollar for that too! --- Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > >> I have an old LP that I could sell, but I'd > probably be there mostly > >>to listen/buy. > > >if that lp is "saturday night fever" soundtrack, > don't bring it because > >that's the record i'm bringing to sell. > > >ww > > - I got dibs on being the sole seller of the > "Xanadu" soundtrack album > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, Associate Click now to apply http://yahoo.degrees.info From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Nov 6 14:07:42 2006 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 14:07:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" Message-ID: - but sausage is quite protein rich, your definition is flawed. A food product that more logically correlates with the definition proposed would be popcorn, or Trader Joe's Reduced Fat Cheese Crunchies. sl Barry wrote: I propose a new meaning to "sausage": sausage (noun): a meaningless thread with lots of filler and little to no nutritional value From jfheule at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 18:08:29 2006 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 18:08:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <454FB086.3090200@gmail.com> References: <454FB086.3090200@gmail.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860611061808m623def1eq2eb3175bc416ca79@mail.gmail.com> I love sausages and you guys are ruining them for me. If you want to make jokes about sausages on this list, the least you can do is serve some up at your shows to counteract the negative associations. j On 11/6/06, Barry Threw wrote: > I propose a new meaning to "sausage": > > sausage (noun): a meaningless thread with lots of filler and little to > no nutritional value -- http://heule.us From bradysharp at gmail.com Mon Nov 6 22:47:16 2006 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 00:47:16 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611061808m623def1eq2eb3175bc416ca79@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FB086.3090200@gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611061808m623def1eq2eb3175bc416ca79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Or since there is apparently discussion, announcements, and this ill-conceived offspring of the two of them, let's just make a separate BA-NEWMUS-SAUSAGE list. Brady On 11/6/06, jacob felix heule wrote: > I love sausages and you guys are ruining them for me. > > If you want to make jokes about sausages on this list, the least you > can do is serve some up at your shows to counteract the negative > associations. > > j > > On 11/6/06, Barry Threw wrote: > > I propose a new meaning to "sausage": > > > > sausage (noun): a meaningless thread with lots of filler and little to > > no nutritional value > > > -- > http://heule.us > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Nov 6 23:50:58 2006 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2006 23:50:58 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: [chi-improv] Malachi Message-ID: Malachi Ritscher was really active in archiving the chicago scene, some of the transplants will remember him, maybe you already heard the news below. He recorded part of one of my cds. damon Begin forwarded message: > From: tony gunther > Date: November 6, 2006 6:21:31 PM PST > To: chi-improv at yahoogroups.com > Subject: [chi-improv] Malachi > Reply-To: chi-improv at yahoogroups.com > > On 11/6/06, fred lonberg-holm > wrote: > Friends, > It is not 100 percent certain that this news story is > about Malachi and I hope very much that it is not but, > all signs seem to point to this. > http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/123692,CST-NWS-bodyfire04.article > > I will miss him very much. > If you have more (better?) information, please let me > know. > In the meanwhile... peace, > Fred > > -- > > __________________________________________________________ > Sponsored Link > > Degrees online in as fast as 1 Yr - MBA, Bachelor's, Master's, > Associate > Click now to apply http://yahoo.degrees.info > __._,_.___ > Messages in this topic (1) Reply (via web post) | Start a new > topic > Messages | Files | Photos | Polls > Post a message: chi-improv at yahoogroups.com > Unsubscribe: chi-improv-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/chi-improv/ -------------- next part -------------- > > Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! 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Messenger > All together now > Host a free online > conference on IM. > . -------------- next part -------------- > > __,_._,___ > From polly.moller at gmail.com Tue Nov 7 10:05:07 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:05:07 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "sausage" In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860611061808m623def1eq2eb3175bc416ca79@mail.gmail.com> References: <454FB086.3090200@gmail.com> <9c5cfa860611061808m623def1eq2eb3175bc416ca79@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611071005k4383120aqae6c10cc8c603e82@mail.gmail.com> For sausage fans, Sarah's got a film in her collection called "Vienna Action!" which features How Sausage Is Made (not for the faint of heart) plus playful kittens wrestling and white trash people preparing, counting, displaying, serving and eating sausages. There was so much kitten wrestling it started to set off my allergies. P. On 11/6/06, jacob felix heule wrote: > I love sausages and you guys are ruining them for me. > > If you want to make jokes about sausages on this list, the least you > can do is serve some up at your shows to counteract the negative > associations. > > j > > On 11/6/06, Barry Threw wrote: > > I propose a new meaning to "sausage": > > > > sausage (noun): a meaningless thread with lots of filler and little to > > no nutritional value > > > -- > http://heule.us > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From slusser at pixar.com Tue Nov 7 14:16:37 2006 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 14:16:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] get well Ahmet Message-ID: <1148D35F-8092-4F50-922F-BA665B576529@pixar.com> > Subject: fyi-from N.Y. Post > Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 10:00:53 -0800 > > OUR wishes for a speedy recovery go out to music > industry legend Ahmet Ertegun, who's been in > intensive care with a head injury ever since taking > a bad tumble backstage at the Beacon Theater where > the Rolling Stones were performing for Bill > Clinton's 60th birthday celebration on Oct. 29. > Ertegun, 83, who founded Atlantic Records, and > signed the Stones to his label in the '70s, was in > stable condition yesterday after being brought out > of a medically induced coma. From jfheule at gmail.com Tue Nov 7 20:50:27 2006 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2006 20:50:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Breakthrough in Grey Room playlists: 2006 Oct 04 & 2006 Nov 01 Message-ID: <9c5cfa860611072050r6c817e78j87c65f5714a97006@mail.gmail.com> This week's show is tonight, 11:59pm-3am (Tue. night/Wed. morning). 90.3 FM San Francisco or online: http://heule.us/breakthrough/ (click "Online Broadcast") Playlists from the last 2 shows: 2006 Oct 04 Gy?rgy Ligeti, "Nouvelles Aventures I," The Ligeti Project V [2004] Gy?rgy Ligeti, "Nouvelles Aventures II," The Ligeti Project V [2004] Haemoth, "Abomination," Vice, Suffering & Destruction [2004] Mayhem, "From the Dark Past," De Mysteriis Dom Sathanas [Deathlike Silence, 1994] Darkthrone, "En As I Dype Skogen," Transilvanian Hunger [Peaceville, 1994 / 2003] Carlos Giffoni & Sixes, "Track 3," various - Mutual Hallucinations vol. 1 [Resipiscent, 2006] Lasse Marhaug, "Fauske," various - Money Will Ruin Everything [Rune Grammofon, 2004] Yellow Swans, "I Woke Up," Psychic Secession [Load, 2006] Hair Police, "Rattlers Echo," Constantly Terrified [Troubleman, 2005] CCCC, "Loud Sounds Dopa Part 1," Loud Sounds Dopa/Live in USA [Endorphine Factory, 1993] Porest, "How Things Works," various - Femme Toupee issue 1 [self-released, 2006] Franz Hautzinger & Mazen Kerbaj, "Sarukh," Abu Tarek [Creative Sources, 2005] John Shiurba, "guitar," various - Music Plus One [Rastascan, 2006] Gordon Monahan, "SPeaker Swinging (part 1)," Speaker Swinging and Piano Mechanics [C3R, 2005] 16 Bitch Pile-Up, "The Hitcher" Pod Blotz, "Below Below," various - Femme Toupee issue 2 [self-released, 2006] Damion Romero, "Negative," negative [Pacrec, 2006] Pink Mountain, "1000 Miles of Sand," self-titled [Frenetic, 2006] Fuchs/Bryerton/Smith, #8, Three October Meetings [Balance Point Acoustics, 2002] Evan Parker, "Titan Moon," The Topography of the Lungs [Incus, 1970 / Psi, 2006] Otomo Yoshihide's New Jazz Orchestra, "Gazzelloni," Out to Lunch [Doubt, 2005] The Flying Luttenbachers, "Cataclysm," Cataclysm [ugExplode, 2006] Zack Hill & Mick Barr, "Parallel Patchwork ABduction," Shred Earthship [5RC, 2006] Hella, "1-800-Ghost Dance," Acoustics [5RC, 2006] Etran Finatawa, "Iriarer," Introducing [World Music Network, 2006] unknown, "Sat Heu," Traditional Mahori Music of Cambodia [Sayonara, 1980s / http://www.asianclassicalmp3.org] Lee "Scratch" Perry, "Simon the Sorcerer," Megaton Dub [Seven Leaves, 1983] Jim Dickerson, "Shake 'Em On Down," various ? Shake 'Em On Down Joe Colley, "Obstacles," California [Troniks/Ground Fault/RRR, 2006] 2006 Nov 01 Anton Szandor LaVey, "The Satanic Mass," The Satanic Mass [Murgenstrumm, 1968] Burzum, "Dunkelheit," Filosofem [Misanthropy, 1995] Immortal, "Frozen by Icewinds," Pure Holocaust [Osmose, 1993] Gorgoroth, "Bertrollets Hevn," Antichrist [Malicious, 1995] Leviathan, "Through the Womb of the Moon," Verrater [Tumult, 2002] Abruptum, "De Profundis Mors Vas Consumet," De Profundis Mors Vas Consumet [Blooddawn, 2000] As Stormclouds Gather, "Into Night's Embrace," Into Night's Embrace [self-released, 1999] Behemoth, "Wolves Guard My Coffin," Sventevith (Storming Near the Baltic) Crebain, "Darkness Be My Bride," Night of Stormcrow Graveland, "The Night of Fullmoon," The Celtic Winter [Melissa Productions, 1993 / No Colours, 1996] Skullflower, "Saragossa," Tribulation [Crucial Blast, 2006] Glorior Belli, "O Laudate Dominvs," O Laudate Dominvs Dead Raven Choir, "French Vampire Carol," Armoured Wolves Darkthrone, "Transilvanian Hunger," Transilvanian Hunger [Peaceville, 1994] Endless Dismal Moan, "Vampire," Endless Dismal Moan [BlackMetal.com, 2005] Nurse With Wound, "Die, Flip or Go to India," various - X-Rated: The DARK Files [Steamin' Soundworks, 2006] Jacula, "Ritus," In Cauda Semper Stat Venenum [2001] Ludicra, "Veils," Fex Urbis Lex Orbis [Alternative Tentacles, 2006] Haemoth, "Abomination," Vice, Suffering & Destruction [2004] Graveland, "Carpathian Wolves," Carpathian Wolves [Eternal Devils, 1994] Hlidolf, "March of the Ancients," v01d (demo cd 1) William S. Burroughs, "Thing Police Keep All Board Room Reports" & "Mr Bradley Mr Martin Hear Us Through The Hole In Thin Air," Call Me Burroughs [English Bookshop, 1965 / ESP, 1966 / Rhino, 1995] Khanate, "Dead," Things Viral Roscoe Mitchell Trio, "Poem," No Side Effects [Rogue Art, 2006] Graveyards, #2, Unmarked Graves [Broken Research, 2006] Simon Nabatov 8tet, "Ivan Ivanych Samovar," A Few Incidences [Leo, 2004] Tim Hecker, "Radio Spiricom," Harmony in Ultraviolet [Kranky, 2006] Control, "The Strong Enslave," California [Troniks/Ground Fault/RRR, 2006] http://heule.us/breakthrough/ From praemedia at yahoo.com Wed Nov 8 09:45:35 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 09:45:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: <41E4A72A1EA81E429C136B30030C141A0190F4@KSOPEXC03.intertec.com> Message-ID: <20061108174535.20913.qmail@web51615.mail.yahoo.com> I haven't been following the new music posts as closely as I should but I do believe Damon already mentioned this. Whether or not, it is sad news indeed: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/08/protesting_iraq_war_.html ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! http://www.LowerMyBills.com/lre From slusser at pixar.com Wed Nov 8 11:35:45 2006 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:35:45 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5FFBC381-FC9D-4791-A1A3-3EBECAAD1FAF@pixar.com> On Nov 6, 2006, at 1:01 AM, John Shiurba wrote: > hey Narcissus, > Trout Mask side 4, track 3 > ha ha she's too much for my mirror, she almost makes me lose it, the way she does abuse it makes me never want to use it. From weaselw at juno.com Wed Nov 8 11:58:04 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:58:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] albert ayler video clip Message-ID: <20061108.115810.3996.6.weaselw@juno.com> remember when you thought you'd never see a film clip of albert ayler performing? well, you were wrong. merry xmas, ww From weaselw at juno.com Wed Nov 8 12:04:14 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:04:14 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fw: albert ayler video clip Message-ID: <20061108.120415.3996.10.weaselw@juno.com> however, if you want to see it, i suppose i'd better send the link. duh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otzdret40ZI ww From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Nov 8 12:05:40 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:05:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: <20061108174535.20913.qmail@web51615.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c70371$44e6e980$4001a8c0@PG> Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. Peaceful blessings on his soul... Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Praemedia Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:46 AM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation I haven't been following the new music posts as closely as I should but I do believe Damon already mentioned this. Whether or not, it is sad news indeed: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/08/protesting_iraq_war_.html ________________________________________________________________________ ____________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. Calculate new payment! http://www.LowerMyBills.com/lre _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From weaselw at juno.com Wed Nov 8 12:58:43 2006 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:58:43 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation Message-ID: <20061108.125844.3996.19.weaselw@juno.com> exactly my sentiments. ww On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 12:05:40 -0800 "Phillip Greenlief" writes: > Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far > to > make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. > > Peaceful blessings on his soul... > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Praemedia > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 9:46 AM > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation > > I haven't been following the new music posts as > closely as I should but I do believe Damon already > mentioned this. Whether or not, it is sad news indeed: > > http://www.boingboing.net/2006/11/08/protesting_iraq_war_.html > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ____________ > Sponsored Link > > Mortgage rates near 39yr lows. $420k for $1,399/mo. > Calculate new payment! > http://www.LowerMyBills.com/lre > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Nov 8 13:02:21 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:02:21 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <5FFBC381-FC9D-4791-A1A3-3EBECAAD1FAF@pixar.com> Message-ID: <003401c70379$2fb8e100$4001a8c0@PG> -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of David Slusser Subject: Re: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 7, Issue 3 On Nov 6, 2006, at 1:01 AM, John Shiurba wrote: > hey Narcissus, > Trout Mask side 4, track 3 > ha ha DS: she's too much for my mirror, she almost makes me lose it, the way she does abuse it makes me never want to use it. PG: Fast and Bulbous! Yumsky yumsky! From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Nov 8 14:26:19 2006 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 14:26:19 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation Message-ID: Phillip wrote: Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think as a political act it was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down today, but I don't think it was because dude set himself on fire. - Certainly it is impressive as an act of "performance art" - tops Chris Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the Volkswagon. Darren and I spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing the ethics and responsibility of his action. sl From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Nov 8 15:44:47 2006 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:44:47 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> Sarah, OK, perhaps admire isn't the right word - mostly because the act can be viewed as one of a spiritual nature. It's an act of disintegration - an act that will not allow the subject to remain indifferent to atrocities. It's an extreme version of the opposite of "indifferent", I agree - and that is what is so astonishing about it. On the other hand, the sage knows that suffering is part of life and realizes to wish it otherwise is foolish - the act of wishing something is different than it is - is what an enlightened being resists - or refuses to consider. It is also possible to think of this individual as someone that felt he needed to embrace the suffering and annihilation that is rampant in Iraq by exterminating himself. So perhaps astonished (how could it be otherwise?) is really the right word. But still, after all is said and done - when is the last time anyone astonished you with their spirituality? - (if I am perceiving the act correctly - it's "correct" for me anyway) - you kind of have to admire the guy... PG Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:26 PM To: Banewmus List Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation Phillip wrote: Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think as a political act it was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down today, but I don't think it was because dude set himself on fire. - Certainly it is impressive as an act of "performance art" - tops Chris Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the Volkswagon. Darren and I spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing the ethics and responsibility of his action. sl _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From praemedia at yahoo.com Wed Nov 8 15:51:46 2006 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: <20061108235146.92678.qmail@web51604.mail.yahoo.com> I cannot really get too far into the discussion on this issue for many reasons (partof them is that I'm at work at the moment), but in considering his actions, you may want to also consider his "mission statement" (which others may, and correctly, characterize as his suicide note): http://www.savagesound.com/gallery99.htm --- Phillip Greenlief wrote: > Sarah, > > OK, perhaps admire isn't the right word - mostly > because the act can be > viewed as one of a spiritual nature. It's an act of > disintegration - an > act that will not allow the subject to remain > indifferent to atrocities. > It's an extreme version of the opposite of > "indifferent", I agree - and > that is what is so astonishing about it. > > On the other hand, the sage knows that suffering is > part of life and > realizes to wish it otherwise is foolish - the act > of wishing something > is different than it is - is what an enlightened > being resists - or > refuses to consider. > > It is also possible to think of this individual as > someone that felt he > needed to embrace the suffering and annihilation > that is rampant in Iraq > by exterminating himself. > > So perhaps astonished (how could it be otherwise?) > is really the right > word. But still, after all is said and done - when > is the last time > anyone astonished you with their spirituality? - (if > I am perceiving the > act correctly - it's "correct" for me anyway) - you > kind of have to > admire the guy... > > PG > > > > > > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf > Of Sarah - 21 Grand > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:26 PM > To: Banewmus List > Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation > > Phillip wrote: > Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who > would go so far to > make a statement about the insanity of our > involvement in Iraq. > > - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think > as a political act > it > was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down > today, but I don't > think > it was because dude set himself on fire. > > - Certainly it is impressive as an act of > "performance art" - tops Chris > Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the > Volkswagon. Darren and I > spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing > the ethics and > responsibility of his action. > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Sponsored Link Mortgage rates near historic lows: $150,000 loan as low as $579/mo. Intro-*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/ From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Wed Nov 8 15:46:35 2006 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (damon) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:46:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> References: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: I admire the guy, but if you look through his site, including the photo archives: http://www.savagesound.net/ You can see that he was a really interesting and intelligent person. I think the world is a bit short on creative, thinking individuals especially in the U.S. Ultimately, I don't think the sacrifice was worth it, and the world being less one person like him cannot be a positive thing. damon On Nov 8, 2006, at 3:44 PM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > Sarah, > > OK, perhaps admire isn't the right word - mostly because the act can be > viewed as one of a spiritual nature. It's an act of disintegration - an > act that will not allow the subject to remain indifferent to > atrocities. > It's an extreme version of the opposite of "indifferent", I agree - and > that is what is so astonishing about it. > > On the other hand, the sage knows that suffering is part of life and > realizes to wish it otherwise is foolish - the act of wishing something > is different than it is - is what an enlightened being resists - or > refuses to consider. > > It is also possible to think of this individual as someone that felt he > needed to embrace the suffering and annihilation that is rampant in > Iraq > by exterminating himself. > > So perhaps astonished (how could it be otherwise?) is really the right > word. But still, after all is said and done - when is the last time > anyone astonished you with their spirituality? - (if I am perceiving > the > act correctly - it's "correct" for me anyway) - you kind of have to > admire the guy... > > PG > > > > > > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:26 PM > To: Banewmus List > Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation > > Phillip wrote: > Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to > make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. > > - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think as a political act > it > was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down today, but I don't > think > it was because dude set himself on fire. > > - Certainly it is impressive as an act of "performance art" - tops > Chris > Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the Volkswagon. Darren and > I > spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing the ethics and > responsibility of his action. > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From polly.moller at gmail.com Wed Nov 8 15:59:30 2006 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 15:59:30 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation In-Reply-To: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> References: <005c01c7038f$e09eab10$4001a8c0@PG> Message-ID: <2eb068d40611081559jeaa8b8fob32cded2057fc0a8@mail.gmail.com> I hear what Phillip is saying. Popular culture and many mythologies idealize self-sacrifice, whether it's "A Tale of Two Cities", "Silent Running", or "Terminator II." But rarely do we actually hear of a civilian willing to make the ultimate sacrifice in the real world for any person or belief. I agree with Mr. Ritscher's characterization of himself as a spiritual warrior. His act had warrior spirit all over it. I was awed. P. On 11/8/06, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > Sarah, > > OK, perhaps admire isn't the right word - mostly because the act can be > viewed as one of a spiritual nature. It's an act of disintegration - an > act that will not allow the subject to remain indifferent to atrocities. > It's an extreme version of the opposite of "indifferent", I agree - and > that is what is so astonishing about it. > > On the other hand, the sage knows that suffering is part of life and > realizes to wish it otherwise is foolish - the act of wishing something > is different than it is - is what an enlightened being resists - or > refuses to consider. > > It is also possible to think of this individual as someone that felt he > needed to embrace the suffering and annihilation that is rampant in Iraq > by exterminating himself. > > So perhaps astonished (how could it be otherwise?) is really the right > word. But still, after all is said and done - when is the last time > anyone astonished you with their spirituality? - (if I am perceiving the > act correctly - it's "correct" for me anyway) - you kind of have to > admire the guy... > > PG > > > > > > > Phillip Greenlief > c/o Evander Music > PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA > 94623-9991 > www.evandermusic.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:26 PM > To: Banewmus List > Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation > > Phillip wrote: > Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to > make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. > > - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think as a political act > it > was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down today, but I don't > think > it was because dude set himself on fire. > > - Certainly it is impressive as an act of "performance art" - tops Chris > Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the Volkswagon. Darren and I > spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing the ethics and > responsibility of his action. > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------- From elsuperfantastico at yahoo.com Wed Nov 8 16:05:51 2006 From: elsuperfantastico at yahoo.com (Chris Broderick) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:05:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation Message-ID: <20061109000551.55971.qmail@web53608.mail.yahoo.com> That's the first time that I've heard of a suicidal act being something "spiritual". Regardless of agreeing with his sentiments, I couldn't agree less with his actions. Assumedly he's left some loved one behind after this act, and if not, then that is likely the larger reason behind his act than any political protest. But If he has, then ask that person whether his behavior is "spiritual", or "admirable", or for that matter, worthwhile. Suffering is indeed a part of life, and suicide is often an attempt to short circuit that suffering. The statement that this person made above all is this: I can't take it anymore. Any political statements are secondary, to say the least. I'm sorry if I can't lionize self-immolation, but having been through chronic depression myself, and having lost a couple of friends to suicide, I have a hard time finding anything noble about it. -Chris ----- Original Message ---- From: Phillip Greenlief To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2006 3:44:47 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Immolation Sarah, OK, perhaps admire isn't the right word - mostly because the act can be viewed as one of a spiritual nature. It's an act of disintegration - an act that will not allow the subject to remain indifferent to atrocities. It's an extreme version of the opposite of "indifferent", I agree - and that is what is so astonishing about it. On the other hand, the sage knows that suffering is part of life and realizes to wish it otherwise is foolish - the act of wishing something is different than it is - is what an enlightened being resists - or refuses to consider. It is also possible to think of this individual as someone that felt he needed to embrace the suffering and annihilation that is rampant in Iraq by exterminating himself. So perhaps astonished (how could it be otherwise?) is really the right word. But still, after all is said and done - when is the last time anyone astonished you with their spirituality? - (if I am perceiving the act correctly - it's "correct" for me anyway) - you kind of have to admire the guy... PG Phillip Greenlief c/o Evander Music PO Box 22158 Oakland, CA 94623-9991 www.evandermusic.com -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2006 2:26 PM To: Banewmus List Subject: [NewMusic] Immolation Phillip wrote: Sad news, and yet I can't help but admire a guy who would go so far to make a statement about the insanity of our involvement in Iraq. - Well, admire isn't the word I would use - I think as a political act it was a bit useless - though Rumsfeld did step down today, but I don't think it was because dude set himself on fire. - Certainly it is impressive as an act of "performance art" - tops Chris Burden getting shot in the arm or nailed to the Volkswagon. Darren and I spent a bit of time at dinner last night discussing the ethics