[NewMusic] art object and the object of art

[Barry Threw]

I can see how it would imply that although that is not what I meant to 
imply.

I think the performance is valid, and critically important.

I understand the point you were making, and agree with it...I'm not sure 
if you meant to imply that there was no difference or little in 
conceptual art and music making.  I think there is a clear difference.

I think this difference is so clear that I am not going to belabor the 
discussion with an explanation.  Let me know if I should.

Praemedia wrote:
>> The difference is, when you make other kinds of art
>> or music, you 
>> actually make something. I do see this as important,
>> and not as simply 
>> an issue of craft.
> 
> This would imply that the recorded disc or the score
> is more important the performance itself. learning the
> craft of an instrument is a conceptual form as is the
> performance.
> 
>> thing can exist, that the concept is as "physical"
>> and valid an object 
>> as any "real" object.  This is pretty much a
>> foundational building block 
>> of any digital practitioner.  However, in the event
>> that the concept is 
>> as valid as a physical art piece, I re-ask the
>> question,  Why is it 
>> necessary to make any art or music?
> 
> You'll have to explain what you mean by the "real
> object" in, for example, music.
>  
>> reproduction.  I 
>> could see it now.  Some asshole goes up on stage,
>> presses a button on a 
>> casio, and looks very austere.  By sheer hubris and
>> wordplay they 
>> convince an audience that it is a worthwhile
>> statement. 
> 
> I would call his art "acting" or "politics" rather
> than music ... but none of it produces any "real
> object" so none of it's valid anyway I suppose.
> 
> lance
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Today, Noise is triumphant and reigns sovereign over the sensibility of men.
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