[NewMusic] acoustic vs. electronic?

[Matt Davignon]

This seems to be based on Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs, a psychological
theory which suggests that people will address basic needs before they
address higher needs. From the bottom up, the categories are described
as physical, safety, emotional, and esteem needs. Creativity is at the
top of the pyramid with the "self-actualization" needs. In this
argument, a person who feels minoritized, (whether or not they are
actually a member of a minority) would need to address that at the
esteem level before creating abstract or avant-garde art
(self-actualization).

On the other hand, sometimes art is created as a reaction to a
deficiency at the emotional or esteem level. But perhaps that could be
still described as confronting those needs.

On 1/11/07, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> but i think there are just as many underpriveleged men as there are
> underpriveleged women; being underpriveledged doesn't seem to stop men (see
> weasel's list of things to do to survive on less than 10 grand a year), so..
> you're saying that since we are minoritized we may respond defferently to
> being underpriveleged? as in, we worry about survival enough to not make
> avant guarde music?
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> k
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> On 1/11/07, J. Segel <magsatellite at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 11, 2007, at 11:58 AM, kristin miltner wrote:
> >
> > >this whole acoustic vs. electronic thing started as a spinoff of the
> > gender
> > and money conversation, partly >because  i said that i get vibes from the
> > bay
> > area new music commmunity that electronic musicians are >lower on the
> > totem
> > pole than acoustic musicians much more than i feel any condescending vibes
> > coming >from my male colleagues because i'm female.
> > >but this whole conversation has really surprised me. based on it, i think
> > i
> > was just being paranoid.
> >
> >
> > right, i got sidetracked from that beginning reading through it.
> > i meant to mention in re: women/money/etc. that i had a conversation about
> > that
> > with pauline oliveros when i was at mills, it sort of encompassed that and
> > the
> > process of music education (whole 'nother topic, though see MCB's youtube
> > video
> > of her little students) but one way that we chose to understand the issue
> > was
> > that, even now in the beginning of the 21st century, women are still
> > minoritized, though not a minority. the issue of gender/money/avant garde
> > works
> > its way into reality in that when a minoritized element of society tries
> > to
> > adapt to society, their priorty is pragmatism, in other words staying
> > alive.
> > this manifests itself in that there will be fewer people coming from
> > non-bourgeoise backgrounds who maintain the avant-garde of anything (art,
> > science, religion) at the expense of their basic welfare, while more
> > privileged
> > individuals are more likely to.
> > anyway, that was how we chose to interpret the numbers at the time. not
> > sure if
> > it's correct or not.
> >
> >
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