[NewMusic] celebrating Phil Collins with Frith

[Phillip Greenlief]

Right on.
   
  Fred Frith and I were having a conversation about recording "Before and After Science" with Brian Eno. I loved that record, and Another Green World, and I was asking him about Eno's recording process for those records (I was mistaken about Another Green World - Frith is "thanked" by Eno on that record - I rememberd it that Frith played on the recording)....

  Anyways, Frith and I started talking about Phil Collins and he was raving about what a great drummer he was (as if he had to convince me). He says there were some pieces they did just improvising - with Collins on drums and Frith playing his guitar on a table with drum sticks...he wants to know where those tracks disappeared to, because he felt they were amazing...
   
  PG
   
  
weasel walter <weaselw at juno.com> wrote:
  if my music can achieve just one 1/3 of the excitement and tension of the
final coda to "the return of the giant hogweed" by genesis, then i can
die a happy corey fogel.

ww

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:11:10 -0700 (PDT) Ron Lettuce
writes:
> Hard to believe that that's the same guy who was singing about snakes 
> slithering through the antichamber back in the 70s. (how soon we 
> forget that he was in Genesis, I mean "Genesis, the early years, 
> when thier music was good"...I don't know if you're poking fun at 
> this time with the "epic song structures" jab, but if you don't know 
> what this means, you should really go search out Foxtrot or Nursery 
> Crimes, unless you REALLY hate prog rock...). Try telling anyone 
> born after 1980 this "You know, Phil Collins, and Peter Gabriel used 
> to be in one of the greatest Prog Rock bands of all time...and thier 
> music was pretty good..."
> 
> but alas, sadly, he is the Richard Dreyfuss of Rock music...
> 
> 
> lettuce
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: corey fogel 
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 8:25:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] The breathtakingly bad Phil Collins
> 
> 
> i sincerely hope that the ebbs and flows of my improvising have half 
> the
> lyricism of Phil Collins' phrases as a singer and drummer; that my 
> sonic
> pallette resonates as lucidly with my bag of tricks as the pairing 
> of his
> melodies/vocal timbre, and that any horizontal or vertical 
> architecture has
> half the integrity of many of his epic song structures.
> 
> oh, and I really hope someday soon to master his ridiculously 
> tasteful way
> of filling over the barline into beginning of the next measure ("In 
> The Air
> Tonight", and "Take Me Home")
> 
> corey
> 
> Matt Davignon:
> 
> > When I talk about making music for other people, there's always
> > jumping to the extreme of "oh, let's get on KFOG". That's not what 
> I'm
> > talking about - if you try to make music for everyone, you'll 
> turn
> > into Phil Collins. It's more about understanding that there are 
> people
> > who like listening to unusual music, acknowledging that you're one 
> of
> > them, and trying to make the music you'd like to hear from 
> yourself if
> > you were hearing it from someone else's ears.
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