[NewMusic] Skronkathon 07

[Kristian Aspelin]

Regarding the ring tone side note, I believe it's true.  While I am not "young" (34), I was with some kids who used the high frequency ring tone on their cell phones to see if I could hear it - I could.  However, someone who is 44 years "old" was in the same room at the time but could not hear the ring tone.  

Cypod <cypod25 at gmail.com> wrote:  > painful? are you sure it's not just the difference tones that freak you
> out?

It could have been the trumpet? Or even the oscillator? I should
clarify, something was too loud during that set, and several others
during the day's performance. Many people like listening to really
loud music, I tolerate it better with ear plugs.

On an interesting side note, I have heard that young people are better
able to hear certain high frequencies. For instance the story of the
students sending text messages behind the teacher's back; because,
their ring tone goes unnoticed by the teacher. Urban legend or fact?


>
> usually when i am making those tones on the clarinet, it is around 1500 hz
> fundamental which is getting up to the most sensitive area
> (fletcher-munson et al) -- the next partial is totally right there.
>
> i definitely play SOFTER in that range - probalby 90db or less -- and
> as far as i understand, pain/damage is only dependent on raw amplitude
> and length of exposure being the most critical
>
> i'm sure your headphone listening of drum & bas is far more damaging than
> than a clarinet in the high register at 21grand.
>
> -m
>
> On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Cypod wrote:
>
> > I would plug up my ears whether it was from a laptop or clarinet,
> > those high tones are painful. From my days of acoustical research,
> > I've found that creating room resonance, or standing waves, is easier
> > with the bass drones rather than short high pitched bursts.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 7/19/07, George Cremaschi wrote:
> >>
> >> mr ingalls wrote:
> >>
> >>> it's interesting that i get a lot of people interpreting that
> >>> high stuff as confrontational or agressive or emotional... -- i don't think
> >>> a laptop musician playing the same tones
> >>> would get the same reaction
> >>
> >> Well I'm not playing a laptop, just actual oscillators, and
> >> love doing loud high-pitched things, and have really
> >> bummed out a few people in the process, so I'm guessing
> >> some folks have more physical tolerance than others in this
> >> regard (or more hearing loss...).
> >>
> >>
> >>> when the music starts sucking is when you start thinking about showing off
> >>> your cool licks.
> >>
> >> Often, this is quite true. For better or worse, I've reached
> >> the point where the second I notice someone's 'technique'
> >> is the point where I begin disliking the music. To me,
> >> "dude, so-and-so can play the shit out of the tuba"
> >> is a young statement. A true 'master' makes selfless music -
> >> if there's a lot of 'technique' on display, then maybe there's
> >> not enough music...
> >>
> >> -George
> >>
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