[NewMusic] Save Internet Radio

Matt J. Ingalls ingalls at mills.edu
Thu May 3 15:39:01 PDT 2007


well ASCAP/BMI goes to the owner of the "composition" which could indeed 
be the label if the artists signed it away.  Soundexchange collects 
royalties for digital-only performance of the "recording" -- Soundexchange
markets themselves as on the side 
of the artists, but as far as i have heard, it really seems mostly 
for the major labels and independents
get nothing ( the same for ASCAP/BMI ) --- are any of you 
members - and have you ever gotten any payments?

i have a hard time believing that they would be able to demand and collect 
royalties for non-members -  where would the 
money end up??

my feeling is that if someone is making $$ off
someone else's music they should pay for it - if an artist/label wants to 
try to make $$ off of their music they should be able to demand $$ for all 
performances -- but what 
about not-for-profit performances?  it would be nice if the copyright 
owner 
could specify with their royalty company that an automatic 
creative-commons license would be applied in these 
circumstances.

they also need to make a blanket license that would be flexible to handle 
a mix of various licenses -- right now it's $500 per listener 
per year or individual song payments

-m

On Thu, 3 May 2007, Michael Zelner wrote:

> On 5/1/07, J. Segel wrote:
>
>> i've been following the upsurge of indignation at the new internet
>> royalty rate
>> ruling with some interest, because i seem to be on both sides of it. i have in
>> the past made a somewhat meager living as a composer and performer, but have
>> seen that entirely go away in the past couple of years. i understand that
>> people want to listen to the radio, and in the past 20 years or so that i have
>> had songs that were played on the radio, i actually got paid broadcast
>> royalties (i'm talking college radio here, like maybe i made $1000 a year
>> maximum. i don't understand tim westergren from pandora's assertion that
>> broadcast radio doesn't pay these royalties at all...?
>> http://blog.pandora.com/
>> ) but with the advent of satellite radio, where they purposely didn't make
>> contracts with the performance rights groups for a couple years, they didn't
>> pay for a while. now they do. same with internet radio.
>
> As I understand it, traditional radio play is seen as a benefit for
> record labels by promoting sales of recorded music. Thus, while
> royalties for air play do go to the composer/performer (via
> organizations such as BMI, which of course stands for "Broadcast
> Music, Inc."), the record labels themelves get nada. This goes all
> the way back to the early days of music radio. (History repeated
> itself in the early '80s with MTV, which the labels saw as a
> promotional vehicle and so they did not negotiate royalty payments
> for the use of music videos.)
>
> The newer "Internet radio" royalties only cover digital transmissions
> of music, and don't apply to terrestrial radio stations (because that
> ship sailed many years ago). The record labels don't want to make the
> same mistake three times.
>
> MZ
>
>
>
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