[NewMusic] Mills article

kristin miltner miltnerunit at gmail.com
Thu Oct 4 11:06:39 PDT 2007


come on, Fred is busy, he doesn't have the time and energy to go to every
dink-ass gig around here. He's seen a lot of it before, I am sure.

On 10/4/07, weasel walter <weaselw at juno.com> wrote:
>
> > I'd like to avoid the issue of attendance at improv shows, and who I
> > see regularly in the audience versus who I only see at shows they are
> > playing, though I'll have to give a pass to Mr. Greenlief, as he seems
> to be
> > playing somewhere almost every night.
>
> my point is that i don't think fred frith really knows what's going on.
> part of why he doesn't is because he just doesn't really go to many gigs,
> period from what i can tell. he doesn't really seem to know all that much
> about what's happening in the local improvising "scene". i stand by this
> accusation until proven otherwise, by you or fred or anybody else. go
> ahead, prove me wrong!
>
> FYI, i play about 50-60  improvised music shows a year around here (i
> actually just counted them), which means I ATTEND AT LEAST 50-60
> IMPROVISED MUSIC EVENTS PER YEAR.  i know and/or watch the other
> musicians bills with me and i book some or all of them too, energy and
> time permitted. since i have lots of competition for the attention of
> live music consumers, i tend to watch the listings to see who is playing
> and i see PLENTY of women getting gigs and playing in the scene. go look
> at the bay improviser calendar for yourselves. shit, at times somebody
> like mary clare brzytwa seems to get more improv gigs than i do, so does
> that mean she's "dominating" the scene?
>
> > Apologies to Mr. Greenlief, for appropriating, but my sense of the
> > hierarchy of the local scene (if there is one) is that those at the
> bottom of
> > the totem pole are men, in general, non-Mills affiliated men, and that
> > if one were to theoretically average the positions of each gender on
> this
> > theoretical totem pole, the position of women would be equal to or
> > higher than those of men, though there are more men at the top than
> women.
>
> thank you for saying this. that's the no-brainer i'm trying to get at and
> the reason why mr. frith's statement rubbed me the wrong way. it's so
> fuckin' binary when the reality is not.
>
> ww
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