[NewMusic] PBR sucks you morons

[kristin miltner]

John, you are so funny... I just about died laughing.

k


On 9/5/07 9:46 AM, "John Ingle" <jmojingle at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wow. I don't really remember typing that.
> I do, however, remember that I was really drunk on
> fine local micro-brew and sake last night.
> Major apologies to the entire list and especially Mr.
> Threw the PBR lover. I have no idea this morning what
> I was thinking when I suggested that someone had naive
> opions about music. I'm not even  sure what that
> means.
> 
> If it's any consolation, I have a horrendous hangover,
> thought not as bad if I had been drinking PBR...
> 
> to steer back to topic... there was a great show at
> the Temescal Art Center Last night.
> 
> cheers, uhhhhh,later,
> 
> jingle
> 
> --- barry threw <bthrew at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Actually...I'm curious...
>> 
>> Given the benefit of the doubt that you weren't just
>> being a dick,  
>> how are my (or whomever "your" was directed at)
>> opinions about music
>> naive?
>> 
>> Educate me in the ways of this "music" you speak of.
>> 
>> b
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 5, 2007, at 1:58 AM, John Ingle wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm sorry, but i've just reached my lurking limit
>> with
>>> this stupid comment over corporate
>>> beer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I
>>> i thought your opinions about music were naive,
>> but..
>>> guess I've failed to mention...,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You  truly ARE a  moron if you think PBR is
>>> fantastic...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sorry to harsh your mellow, but fuck...
>>> northern california is a center for good local
>> beer,
>>> but PBR is mcDonald's like shite
>>> 
>>> i do give tasting and cooking classes if some of
>> you
>>> need it...
>>> xo,
>>> jingle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --- barry threw <bthrew at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You fail to mention the fact that it is a
>> fantastic
>>>> beer, for a
>>>> dollar often.
>>>> 
>>>> b
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 4, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Tim Perkis wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> yeah, well this part is depressing and creepy --
>>>> this response to the
>>>>> dominance of 'word of mouth' -- the development
>> of
>>>> 'stealth
>>>>> marketing',
>>>>> where they hire cool looking people to go to hip
>>>> bars and talk about
>>>>> something they want to sell, with the intention
>> of
>>>> being overheard.
>>>>> That's undercutting the basic social fabric in a
>>>> way that the most
>>>>> intrusive advertising in the past never did.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I read an article about the incredibly
>> successful
>>>> stealth marketing
>>>>> campaign to rehabilitate Pabst Blue Ribbon,
>> which
>>>> depended on the
>>>>> making
>>>>> sure that no one knew that there even WAS a
>>>> campaign for it... the old
>>>>> 'regular guy' beer was taken up by hipsters not,
>>>> as they think,
>>>>> because
>>>>> they are just so outside of the mainstream, but
>>>> actually because they
>>>>> are so susceptible to hipster-targeted stealth
>>>> marketing.... waaaay
>>>>> creepy
>>>>> 
>>>>> T
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matt Davignon wrote:
>>>>>> Well, the word of mouth they're discussing is
>> not
>>>> about signing bands
>>>>>> that have been creating a word of mouth buzz.
>>>> Instead, they're trying
>>>>>> to generate artificial buzz about groups that
>>>> aren't getting any.
>>>>>> That
>>>>>> part was a bit depressing. Imagine being told
>> by
>>>> your job to go out
>>>>>> and tell everyone you know that Velvet Revolver
>>>> is awesome.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "I think that band Train is doing something
>>>> totally original. They're
>>>>>> absolutely not the Bob Saget of 'alternative'
>>>> music!"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Moe! Staiano moped:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pretty damn depressing in my opinion....
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   -M!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Then Tim Perkis was like:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This doesn't seem depressing to me, it seems
>>>> completely hopeful.
>>>>>>> What is
>>>>>>> 'word of mouth' but authentic culture by real
>>>> people? The fact that
>>>>>>> these focus group people are finding out about
>>>> everything by
>>>>>>> 'word-of-mouth' means they aren't being
>>>> influenced by what's being
>>>>>>> pushed, but by what their peers think is
>>>> interesting. To me that's
>>>>>>> really an exciting development.
>>>>>>> 
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