[NewMusic] EMO-ers beware!

Tue Apr 1 21:55:00 PDT 2008

Matt,

The "EMO" tag is one that has been used repeatedly until it was defined, almost like "Heavy Metal", and "Industrial". Two years ago, it was applied to bands like Coheed and Cambria, Ten years ago, it just meant mopey and sentimental and was applied to bands that sounded like Weezer...(and originally applied to bands like Fugazi twenty years ago...lol try to make some sense out of that...), and the music had NOTHING to do with what is now considered EMO.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emo 

What ~usually~ gets applied to the emo fashion badge are the Little Nicky haircut

http://www.littlenicky.com/standard/images/desktop/desktop_b_640_480.jpg

combined with super tight low hip hugger girl jeans, skate shoes (vans/converse), rock t-shirt (especially if it tows the line between the sexes)...
http://www.spokesmanreview.com/blogs/vox/media/emo.jpg (sorry, just ran across it while checking my facts...)

Your 10 years ago vision is probably not too bad, I don't think there was a seriously defined fashion trend then...But incidentially not all that different from some fashion trends back then...

Also, that reminds me, this isn't the first time this sort of thing was proposed...(originally 06/06/06...perhaps earlier...)
http://gothacked.org/rmbblog/wp-content/emo.jpg
Perhaps the answer for why it's occurring in mexico now...can be found in here...
http://www.gorbatyuk.com/img/aztec_calendar.gif
But I can't read it...
Oh, SHIT does that mean that the end of the world isn't in 2012, but rather 2010?...

lettuce

----- Original Message ----
From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, April 1, 2008 6:25:54 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] EMO-ers beware!

I wasn't aware that emo kids dressed up a certain way. My 10 years ago
lenses are a little foggy.

I think it should perfectly appropriate to make fun of adults who follow a
dress code defined by the music they listen to. This applies equally to
bedheadded hipsters, goths, ravers, tiny-legged rap fans, leather
pants-wearing rockers, cowboys who don't herd cows, non-jamaican dreadlocks,
etc. With teens it's one thing, a part of their development of
self-awareness. But adults should have some sense of who they are as
individuals by now, right?

But getting upset about it makes one just as ludicrous, I think.

On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Brady Sharp <bradysharp at gmail.com> wrote:

> It's incredible!  Most mob mentality happens around gender, skin
> color, ethnicity, sexual preference, or where income and livelihood is
> involved (unions vs. scabs, etc).
>
> These folks like Emo music and they dress a little more strangely than
> the norm, but probably not as strange as some of the punks and
> metalheads that are opposing them.  From the article description, I
> guess it's a class thing, like the typical EMOer is upper-class, goes
> to private schools, etc. are unaware of the hardships that the
> metalheads face (that last clause is absurd in itself!), and are what
> they would call "sissies"...
>
> ... it sounds like a result of the latino machismo that you hear about
> down there, even though I'm just about as comfortable mentioning
> "Latino Machismo" as I am "backwards Southerner", "Stupid Redneck", or
> any other sweeping generality.
>
> Maybe it'll grow into a huge movement encompassing many genres of
> music.  I could see a protest movement building up from oppression and
> people claiming they are "born Emo-ers!".  Maybe we should ban
> together.  If you played typical newmusic next to Emo, Metal, or
> anything else and asked society as a whole to actively regard them and
> rank them, I'm sure we'd probably be at the bottom of the totem pole
> and one of the first ones to be repressed.  Right now it just means
> getting smaller gigs and less money, but maybe it'll mean getting your
> ass kicked in the future!
>
> I mean, Ornette got beat up for his music, but he was CREATING the
> music.  Soon, mere FANS of the likes of Ornette might feel the same
> wrath!
>
> Again, it's scary and absurd all at once!
>
> Brady
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 1, 2008 at 5:23 PM, Praemedia <praemedia at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Been happening all over Mexico for a few weeks now.
> >  Has even spread to several other South American
> >  countries. The 800 mob was just the biggest single
> >  event. It has been happening daily for a while now.
> >  Haven't been able to keep my eyes of it. President of
> >  Mexico has even gotten involved and several other
> >  heads of state have also made comments about it. Train
> >  wreck of mob mentality. lovely world we live in.
> >
> >  lance
> >
> >
> >
> >  --- Brady Sharp <bradysharp at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >  > Not exactly newmusic-related, but I was struck by
> >  > the headline:
> >  >
> >  > Mobs in Mexico Attack Fans of Emo Music
> >  >
> >
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=89265941&ft=1&f=1001
> >  >
> >  > Something like 800 people mobbed a handful of people
> >  > sitting in a
> >  > square in a town north of Mexico City, at the behest
> >  > of a local DJ.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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