From polly.moller at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 06:39:15 2008 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 06:39:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] A memorial site for Paul Decker Message-ID: <2eb068d40802010639l126b53feje1b1774a4fa5c88d@mail.gmail.com> http://stillfreesky.blogspot.com/ This site was put up by Sue Hinton, Paul's colleague at NASA. Please feel free to have a look and leave a comment if you feel inspired. Thanks... P. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.myspace.com/pollymoller ------------------------------------------------------------ From matt at sfsound.org Fri Feb 1 12:04:33 2008 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:04:33 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Lachenmann Message-ID: There's a not-that-exciting review of the Lachenmann concert on SFCV with a comment and link to Richard Friedman's very-not-excited blog review underneath. http://www.sfcv.org/2008/01/29/sounds-like-this/#comment-213 i attempted to write a response which is waiting for moderator approval so i include it here below. i am not without my own criticism of the concert itself, if i get more incentive i will post them at some point... m@ On the contrary, Lachenmann has been constantly developing his own way of MAKING music with ?extended? instrumental sounds, combining a modern, ?acousmatic? compositional approach with ?classical? techniques. Indeed, a good example is ?Allegro Sostenuto? ? it is almost Beethoven-like in that the entire composition is spun out of the handful of motives introduced in the first few bars of the piece, with timbre being an extra dimension in which these motives can mutate. Lachenmann (now 72), is definitely not an emerging young composer. But the fact that the audience *was* young and enthusiastic is a telling sign. Just like young european composers championed Webern and Messiaen in the 50?s and the Bang-on-a-Can crowd latched onto Andriessen and Reich, it really seems to me that a significant sector of today?s young composers are finding their own heros of ?extended instrumental? composition in the likes of Lachenmann, Sciarrino, Grisey, and others. I should also point out that Lachenmann only has a handful of chamber works, ?Allegro Sostenuto? and his string quartets being the most substantial, and most practical to perform! Apart from a couple sfSound concerts, this was the first time the Bay Area was even able to hear Lachenmann?s music live. From Damon at balancepointacoustics.com Fri Feb 1 12:41:01 2008 From: Damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 12:41:01 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Lachenmann In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4A3F06B5-30AA-4D2F-BCB9-7024F26B9E1D@balancepointacoustics.com> I think most of his recent work is for larger ensembles and opera. Of all the pieces I have recordings of Gran torso is the piece I have liked best. The 'cellist's over dramatic gestures and heavy breathing made it REALLY tough to enjoy ?Allegro Sostenuto? and you can't help wondering how accurate a performance of such complex music can be with all that extraneous stuff happening. I also agree with what Matt's comment 100%. Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From mattdavignon at gmail.com Fri Feb 1 14:07:40 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2008 14:07:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] NYC prank - don't move for 5 minutes at Grand Central Station Message-ID: http://www.improveverywhere.com/2008/01/31/frozen-grand-central/ From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Sat Feb 2 18:37:48 2008 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:37:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] phone for damon or mark miller Message-ID: <317505170802021837o38ed3d1fp147fb6129417cc60@mail.gmail.com> can anyone out there send me damon smith or mark miller's phone number in the next ten minutes? From robi2 at hotmail.com Sat Feb 2 22:36:10 2008 From: robi2 at hotmail.com (robi kauker) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 06:36:10 +0000 Subject: [NewMusic] for ma++ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recall a conversation in grad school with you about men getting pregnant - seems the women have the upper hand http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/technology/technology.html?in_article_id=511391&in_page_id=1965 the brief Sperm Made From Female Bone Marrow, Men Obsolete? Posted by ScuttleMonkey on Saturday February 02, @06:22AM from the what-some-women-have-been-saying-for-years dept. Shaitan Apistos writes "British scientists have discovered a way to turn female bone marrow into sperm, allowing women to reproduce without the need of male companionship. All children born of this method would be female, due the lack Y chromosomes, and there is high chance of birth defects. Eggs also can be created from male bone marrow, but men looking to reproduce would still need to find a surrogate mother to handle the gestation period. I'd like to take a moment to welcome our new amazonian overlords and remind them that men are still very good at mowing lawns and fixing cars." robi ---------------------------------------- > From: newmusic-request at music.mills.edu > Subject: NewMusic Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 21:00:03 -0800 > > Send NewMusic mailing list submissions to > newmusic at music.mills.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > newmusic-request at music.mills.edu > > You can reach the person managing the list at > newmusic-owner at music.mills.edu > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of NewMusic digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. phone for damon or mark miller (Ava Mendoza) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 18:37:48 -0800 > From: "Ava Mendoza" > Subject: [NewMusic] phone for damon or mark miller > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > can anyone out there send me damon smith or mark miller's phone number > in the next ten minutes? > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > End of NewMusic Digest, Vol 22, Issue 2 > *************************************** _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 From ingalls at mills.edu Sun Feb 3 14:18:44 2008 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt J. Ingalls) Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2008 14:18:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] for ma++ In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I recall a conversation in grad school with you about men getting pregnant - seems the women have the upper hand i don't... From wobbly at detritus.net Sun Feb 3 16:45:55 2008 From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly) Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2008 17:45:55 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Lachenmann In-Reply-To: Message-ID: at least Richard Friedman's disappointed review simply stems from high expectations -- sure I would have preferred a full presentation of 'Das M?dchen mit den Schwefelh?lzern' for 80-piece orchestra and chorus but I'll take an evening with the man himself playing his own solo piano works & two of his signature pieces. I had high expectations and they were met. I was sitting close enough to the stage to actually hear the quieter details, though, I wondered more than once how it might have sounded from the back. The evening definitely prompted me to finally transfer my old vinyl copy of his Editions RZ record which is still I think my favorite I'd love to hear your reservations as a participant, I am a simple enthusiast -jl on 2/1/08 1:04 PM, matt at matt at sfsound.org wrote: > There's a not-that-exciting review of the Lachenmann concert on SFCV > with a comment and link to Richard Friedman's very-not-excited > blog review underneath. > > > http://www.sfcv.org/2008/01/29/sounds-like-this/#comment-213 > > > i attempted to write a response which is waiting for moderator approval > so i include it here below. i am not without my own criticism of the > concert itself, > if i get more incentive i will post them at some point... > > m@ > > > On the contrary, Lachenmann has been constantly developing his own way > of MAKING music with ?extended? instrumental sounds, combining a > modern, ?acousmatic? compositional approach with ?classical? > techniques. Indeed, a good example is ?Allegro Sostenuto? ? it is > almost Beethoven-like in that the entire composition is spun out of > the handful of motives introduced in the first few bars of the piece, > with timbre being an extra dimension in which these motives can mutate. > > Lachenmann (now 72), is definitely not an emerging young composer. But > the fact that the audience *was* young and enthusiastic is a telling > sign. Just like young european composers championed Webern and > Messiaen in the 50?s and the Bang-on-a-Can crowd latched onto > Andriessen and Reich, it really seems to me that a significant sector > of today?s young composers are finding their own heros of ?extended > instrumental? composition in the likes of Lachenmann, Sciarrino, > Grisey, and others. > > I should also point out that Lachenmann only has a handful of chamber > works, ?Allegro Sostenuto? and his string quartets being the most > substantial, and most practical to perform! Apart from a couple > sfSound concerts, this was the first time the Bay Area was even able > to hear Lachenmann?s music live. > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Feb 4 08:29:29 2008 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 08:29:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] The loss of Jorge Liderman Message-ID: <2eb068d40802040829v2cd0f703r8be397a53b0b867a@mail.gmail.com> http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/02/04/BAFGURL71.DTL P. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.myspace.com/pollymoller ------------------------------------------------------------ From moestaiano1 at yahoo.com Mon Feb 4 09:57:38 2008 From: moestaiano1 at yahoo.com (Moe! Staiano) Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 09:57:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Jorge Liderman Message-ID: <203272.75308.qm@web58703.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Don't know if people on this list knows this guy, but thought it was worth a mention. http://www.mercurynews.com/breakingnews/ci_8164052 --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. From matt at sfsound.org Thu Feb 7 16:41:08 2008 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:41:08 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] i have an extra ticket to symphony tonight Message-ID: <18D70DA6-CE0C-48E3-8103-1A0760360CBD@sfsound.org> if you don't mind the person sitting next to you or the music or the crappy seat (it's a comp!) Ligeti San Francisco Polyphony Bart?k Piano Concerto No. 3 Shostakovich Symphony No. 6 Ingo Metzmacher, conductor H?l?ne Grimaud, piano let me know if you are interested. m@ From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Fri Feb 8 12:57:18 2008 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2008 12:57:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Book lending Message-ID: hey folks- Anybody have a copy of Straus' "Introduction to Post-Tonal Theory" gathering dust on their bookshelves, so that you might be willing to lend it to me for a bit? thanks mg Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From luke at westbrookmusic.net Sat Feb 9 14:26:36 2008 From: luke at westbrookmusic.net (Luke Westbrook) Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:26:36 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Allow me To Introduce Myself Message-ID: Hi My name is Luke Westbrook I am an improvisor/composer, I play guitar and piano. I am 28 yrs old and reside in SF. I have been using the Transbay calendar for sometime but have just found out about this list serve. This is very exciting for me and would appreciate any other links to list serves, websites, forums or other networking resources that focus on "New Music". I will in turn pass along all of this information to those of my email contacts with an interest in this field of music/art. Also I am hosting a Wednesday series at a venue called Bluesix in SF (details will be sent via the "events" list). I am looking for potential acts that fit the series criteria. We are looking for acoustic solo or duo acts. This series in primarily about improvisation, however performers coming from all styles are welcome to contact me. Make a Joyful Noise LW -- luke at westbrookmusic.net http://www.westbrookmusic.net/ http://www.myspace.com/lukewestbrooktrio http://www.youtube.com/Westbrookmusic From slusser at pixar.com Sun Feb 10 07:27:44 2008 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 07:27:44 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] wind instruments Message-ID: <39AE95D8-8791-4146-A913-C6469E1C8D22@pixar.com> wind instruments don't start at the mouthpiece (if you play standing up, it starts at the balls of your feet) http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080208/sc_nm/saxophone_science_dc_1 From jfheule at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 10:50:21 2008 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 10:50:21 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] wind instruments In-Reply-To: <39AE95D8-8791-4146-A913-C6469E1C8D22@pixar.com> References: <39AE95D8-8791-4146-A913-C6469E1C8D22@pixar.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860802101050l4a580c5dsf7c3c6b7a1953c84@mail.gmail.com> It's funny to me how articles like this always make the altissimo range sound so much more mysterious and impressive than it really is. Sigurd Rascher had completely mastered this technique by the beginning of the 40s, others were using it way earlier, and Rascher was convinced Adolphe Sax intended for the saxophone to be played that way. I guess, though, it's always nice to be sticking tubes down people's throats and looking around a little. I just always see the altissimo range written about like, "Coltrane can play notes that don't even exist on the saxophone! What the fuck?!" It's really not in that category, but maybe I shouldn't expect any more from an ignorant uncultured press writing for an ignorant uncultured public. It's just a little silly that this sort of writing perpetuates the idea that this is some crazy thing. Anyway there's nothing wrong with studying it. I'd really like to find out how Gratkowski is playing notes BELOW the range of the instrument. I'm pretty sure it's gotta be some kind of similar sub-glottal coupling, but it just sounds so crazy, and I've never heard anyone else be able to do it. On Feb 10, 2008 7:27 AM, David Slusser wrote: > wind instruments don't start at the mouthpiece > > (if you play standing up, it starts at the balls of your feet) > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080208/sc_nm/saxophone_science_dc_1 -- http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 12:28:15 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:28:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Allow me To Introduce Myself In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Luke! Welcome! a good online version of the transbay calendar would be www.bayimproviser.com. There you can find venue listings, updated calendar listings, profiles of many of the local performers, etc. There's also an "sfsound" streaming radio station that can be found at sfsound.org Matt On Feb 9, 2008 2:26 PM, Luke Westbrook wrote: > Hi My name is Luke Westbrook I am an improvisor/composer, I play guitar and > piano. I am 28 yrs old and reside in SF. > > I have been using the Transbay calendar for sometime but have just found out > about this list serve. > > This is very exciting for me and would appreciate any other links to list > serves, websites, forums or other networking resources that focus on "New > Music". I will in turn pass along all of this information to those of my > email contacts with an interest in this field of music/art. > > > Also I am hosting a Wednesday series at a venue called Bluesix in SF > (details will be sent via the "events" list). I am looking for potential > acts that fit the series criteria. > > We are looking for acoustic solo or duo acts. This series in primarily > about improvisation, however performers coming from all styles are welcome > to contact me. > > > Make a Joyful Noise > > LW > -- > luke at westbrookmusic.net > http://www.westbrookmusic.net/ > http://www.myspace.com/lukewestbrooktrio > http://www.youtube.com/Westbrookmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 12:45:27 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 12:45:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Popular music since 2000 - has anything happened? Message-ID: This isn't a rhetorical question - more an admission of my own ignorance I suppose. I like to think of each decade of having some new trends in mainstream popular music that have been reflected in many of the records coming out. For example, in the 80's people started looking at using the studio as a refinement tool, which meant a lot of 80's albums sound really, really produced. (Chorus guitars, gated reverb drums, etc.) Pop music started getting mostly electronic, and rap music gradually became mainstream. "Virtuosity" was more or less defined by your guitar solo. In the 90's the whole 'alternative' thing became big, which meant being a lot more straightforward with rock and roll, both musically and in production values. Rap more or less supplanted pop music as the new top 40. 4/4 dance music became mainstream 2000's.... uh, 'underground hip hop' had a great few years. There are some glitch pop records around. More people are recording at home, but other than 'underground' stuff, most of the trends I see in 2000 have been regarding the delivery of music. The mainstream stuff I hear sounds like the late 90's never ended, except with a gradually increasing percentage of protein byproduct meal. So... what have I missed? Have there been any 'decade-defining' records since 2000? Matt From wobbly at detritus.net Sun Feb 10 16:13:29 2008 From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly at detritus.net) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:13:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Popular music since 2000 - has anything happened? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <35443.71.131.217.82.1202688809.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net> the only mainstream pop record from this decade that I've been unreservedly into so far this decade is Shiina Ringo's 'Karuki, Zamen, Kuruki no Hana', and it's arguably more of an anomaly than an archetype. but it's the first time I've heard a record that combines traditional asian classical with everything I love about the last 25 years of the japanese underground / experimental scene w/ a j-pop sensibility (I would definitely hear that record as a record before hitting youtube -- her videos are not as distinctive as the music, though her band Tokyo Jihen' performing 'Souretsu' on the Domestic Virgin Line 2006 tour might do in a pinch) in general I think most of the interesting things in pop right now aren't happening in this country, the spark's moved elsewhere -- the 80's awkward phase of world music 'fusion' has been worked through and I'm starting to hear some very comfortable meetings -jl From alee at tentacle.net Sun Feb 10 21:57:00 2008 From: alee at tentacle.net (Alee Karim) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:57:00 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Popular music since 2000 - has anything happened? (Alee Karim) Message-ID: <57C47FAF-F6C6-414F-8B6D-DABF189D5822@tentacle.net> Check out Meshuggah. As they'll be hitting The Warfield in a few months they're popular, relatively speaking. They're a fucking brilliant metal band... -A -- www.theatomicbombaudition.com www.myspace.com/aleekarim www.myspace.com/theatomicbombaudition "Peace is not just the absence of violence, it's its own thing. Just like light is its own thing." -David Lynch From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Mon Feb 11 09:58:48 2008 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 09:58:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Article One Message-ID: Bumped into this article on Arthur Fleisher, and the intersection of politics and art, thought some folks might be curious: http://powerofnarrative.blogspot.com/2008/02/applauding-maestro-fleisher-with-both.html Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Mon Feb 11 10:02:47 2008 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:02:47 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Article Two Message-ID: Also, this essay on Feldman by Kyle Gann (everyone's favorite!) has been making the rounds: http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2008/01/in_dispraise_of_efficiency_fel.html Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From mhenry at crypticstudios.com Mon Feb 11 23:22:38 2008 From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:22:38 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Article Two Message-ID: I'll refrain from commenting upon the 3800 (mostly worthless) words re: Feldman, and instead point list readers to this even more recent Gannicism: http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/ "Thus Notta Sonata contains (to quote what I once wrote about it) ...passages [that] sound like Baroque counterpoint on mallet instruments, tonalized fragments of Boulezian serialism, piano horn calls from a Weber opera reworked by Stockhausen with raucously ringing glockenspiels." Similarly, Gann's musings always seem to have "passages [that] sound like the flatulent spattering contrapuntal eruptions from an anal membrane, equal-tempered fragments of a post-Partchian patchouli, fortissimo kazoo calls from an opera by Jake Heggie reworked by Mike Huckabee with obnoxiously odious carillon bells." Gannicide. -MH ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 10:02:47 -0800 From: Matthew Goodheart Subject: [NewMusic] Article Two To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Also, this essay on Feldman by Kyle Gann (everyone's favorite!) has been making the rounds: http://www.artsjournal.com/postclassic/2008/01/in_dispraise_of_efficiency_fel.html Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 12 01:34:21 2008 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 01:34:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] greenlief solo this thursday at lsg In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <390204.44963.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hey, i'm turning 49 on thursday (yeah, valentine's day is my birthday - pretend that doesn't suck) i'm playing solo at the luggage store to celebrate - it would be really great if you'd come down and have a splash of sound and maybe some red wine too... come on down, i hope to see you there, pg outsound presents luggage store gallery new music series 8 pm phillip greenlief, solo saxophone 9 pm michael marcus - ted daniel duo (nyc) thursday, february 14 luggage store gallery 1007 market street (@6th street) san francisco, ca From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 17:04:07 2008 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:04:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Art of the Improviser Broadcast Message-ID: <724498.50559.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com> KFJC is going to broadcast The Art of the Improvisor on Thursday, Feb 14th at 7 pm www.kfjc.org Recorded live by KFJC on 11 January 2008 at CounterPULSE in San Franciso. Hosted by Outlier. Rova, Liz Allbee, MaryClare Brzytwa, Aurora Josephson, LaDonna Smith and Karen Stackpole Jon Raskin From matt at sfsound.org Wed Feb 13 11:08:54 2008 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:08:54 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] moe, rent, gino on SFCV cover story Message-ID: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> a long multi-authored on bay area's "bleeding edge" is on this week's sf classical voice: http://sfcv.org/ Kudos to Michael Zwiebach for giving some print to the local experimental scene - even though i wish he would have mentioned the Transbay and maybe some more groups/venues.. but i guess this was more about featuring Rent, which is fine.. i also don't agree with the premise that "modern classical musicians are often comfortable in other musical genres, even more improvisatory and alternative ones." --- i have a hard time believing that the life of a musician is that different now than any other point -- i'm not that knowledgable about history, but i do know about musicians touring "storefront" clubs in ancient greece, competing with one another who could play the fastest licks while circular breathing, beethoven getting his start as an improviser, chopin playing in bars, etc.. certainly the more "common" musicians - just like today - were taking as many gigs as they could in many kinds of music -- to earn more money and cover their many interests? As for the rest of the article by the other authors, it touches on something that has been bugging me lately: the idea that crossing genres is experimental and "bleeding edge". personally, i usually don't find that too interesting, and it just reminds me of "3rd stream" -- nor do i really understand what that "gaps between established genres, between art and popular music" are. first of all, isn't "genre" just some kind of music industry creation? Now i have absolutely no problem with musicians creating, performing, and promoting the music they enjoy and are passionate about - in whatever "genre" -- but please let's not confuse instrumentation with musical content - if your string quartet is playing rock music then let's call it "rock" and not "experimental- cutting-edge" -- and as long as i can pick up on your enthusiasm and commitment to the music, then i won't care -- but unfortunately in most of these cases, the orchestration is being used as a face-lift -- usually either dorky and/or burnt-out classical musicians trying to appear "hip" or rock musicians trying to appear "serious" "bridging the gap" can backfire and you bring the worst elements from both worlds into one.. m@ From Damon at balancepointacoustics.com Wed Feb 13 11:30:06 2008 From: Damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 11:30:06 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] moe, rent, gino on SFCV cover story In-Reply-To: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> References: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> Message-ID: <4577E94D-A70A-4C92-B6CC-5B3AAB639C05@balancepointacoustics.com> Bang on Can was a real yawn fest at their free Amoeba show. On Feb 13, 2008, at 11:08 AM, matt wrote: > a long multi-authored on bay area's "bleeding edge" is on this > week's sf classical voice: > > http://sfcv.org/ > > Kudos to Michael Zwiebach for giving some print to the local > experimental scene - even though i wish he would have mentioned the > Transbay and maybe some more groups/venues.. but i guess this was more > about featuring Rent, which is fine.. i also don't agree with the > premise that "modern classical musicians are often comfortable in > other musical genres, even more improvisatory and alternative ones." > --- i have a hard time believing that the life of a musician is that > different now than any other point -- i'm not that knowledgable about > history, but i do know about musicians touring "storefront" clubs in > ancient greece, competing with one another who could play the fastest > licks while circular breathing, beethoven getting his start as an > improviser, chopin playing in bars, etc.. certainly the more "common" > musicians - just like today - were taking as many gigs as they could > in many kinds of music -- to earn more money and cover their many > interests? > > > As for the rest of the article by the other authors, it touches on > something that has been bugging me lately: the idea that crossing > genres is experimental and "bleeding edge". personally, i usually > don't find that too interesting, and it just reminds me of "3rd > stream" -- nor do i really understand what that "gaps between > established genres, between art and popular music" are. first of all, > isn't "genre" just some kind of music industry creation? > > Now i have absolutely no problem with musicians creating, > performing, and promoting the music they enjoy and are passionate > about - in whatever "genre" -- but please let's not confuse > instrumentation with musical content - if your string quartet is > playing rock music then let's call it "rock" and not "experimental- > cutting-edge" -- and as long as i can pick up on your enthusiasm and > commitment to the music, then i won't care -- but unfortunately in > most of these cases, the orchestration is being used as a face-lift -- > usually either dorky and/or burnt-out classical musicians trying to > appear "hip" or rock musicians trying to appear "serious" > > "bridging the gap" can backfire and you bring the worst elements from > both worlds into one.. > > > m@ > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Feb 13 13:15:55 2008 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:15:55 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] 21 Grand in the Bay Guardian's music blog Message-ID: http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/music/2008/02/21_grand.html#more I am not offended in the slightest by the mention of our "spartan d?cor and mismatched chairs." sl From lx.rudis at gmail.com Wed Feb 13 13:22:11 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:22:11 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] three-fisted RANT about 'video games live' Message-ID: <7272233a0802131322p3ea80315gbc0bf4cf4f9ae0a3@mail.gmail.com> a friend of mine sent me this link today, claiming 'this is REAL music'. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHGy9XEF9I unknown to him, i'd already _accidentally_ bought a ticket to Video GAmes Live. initially i scripted a rant back to him and the CC list. it was sitting here in my inbox when m@'s earlier post about 'experimental music' came in. i decided to cut/paste my reply to the 'videogames live' folks and send it to all of you instead. because i love you. or you can re-educate me. or something. ------------start quote----------------- > although i'm actually scheduled to attend this thing, i'm not real happy about it. ..i agreed to buy a ticket to it before i realized the #^^ ticket was FORTY EIGHT DOLLARS. :P imvho this exercise is about at the conceptual level of re-transcribing Delta Blues for symphony orchestra and employing operatic tenors to sing the stuff. sans wit. often the music you hear on these classic game machines was designed _specifically_ for that game machine and its associated development tools - although the machines technically function as 'musical instruments', they are mediocre ones at best, and the decisions i made in composing for them often flew in the face of traditional orchestration. sigh. well, music is music i suppose, and organized pitch and time can be transliterated in a variety of ways. having said that, i feel that this event is an expensive, ironic gesture. i figure i'll live thru the evening, but i hope i can get some schmoozing done out in the lobby. that's about the value i place on the evening. flame away if you wish. i know i'm being a curmudgeon here, but i just can't stand this crap. game music paid my rent for about a decade, and i'm still enough of an aesthetician to have an opinion on the form. -----------end quote------------ what do i think is valid? hmm. well for starters: http://www.chiptune.com/ http://www.myspace.com/blipfestival lx :P From weaselw at juno.com Wed Feb 13 13:44:24 2008 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:44:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] 21 Grand in the Bay Guardian's music blog Message-ID: <20080213.134617.10188.11.weaselw@juno.com> oh, if she could only make it over to 21 grand more often, how much richer she'd imagine her life being! that writer needs to give me a break with that "woulda-coulda" schtick. ww On Wed, 13 Feb 2008 13:15:55 -0800 Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> writes: > http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/music/2008/02/21_grand.html#more > > I am not offended in the slightest by the mention of our "spartan > d?cor and > mismatched chairs." > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From bthrew at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 00:57:12 2008 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:57:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] three-fisted RANT about 'video games live' In-Reply-To: <7272233a0802131322p3ea80315gbc0bf4cf4f9ae0a3@mail.gmail.com> References: <7272233a0802131322p3ea80315gbc0bf4cf4f9ae0a3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <44C27256-85E3-4C49-931D-5CE5799C8BD8@gmail.com> I agree with you mostly. I mean, I do understand why this is done...the irony of having this toy music played my something as anachronistic as an orchestra...Its like playing dress-up or something. It seems like most of the joy from the audience is just stemming from the identification of games. This is fun...I guess. There are notions about validity wrapped up in this that I find interesting though. As if somehow orchestrating this music makes it more real, or gives it greater value... b On Feb 13, 2008, at 1:22 PM, lx rudis wrote: > a friend of mine sent me this link today, claiming 'this is REAL > music'. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVHGy9XEF9I > unknown to him, i'd already _accidentally_ bought a ticket to Video > GAmes > Live. initially i scripted a rant back to him and the CC list. it was > sitting here in my inbox when m@'s earlier post about 'experimental > music' > came in. > > i decided to cut/paste my reply to the 'videogames live' folks and > send it > to all of you instead. > because i love you. or you can re-educate me. or something. > > ------------start quote----------------- >> although i'm actually scheduled to attend this thing, i'm not real >> happy > about it. ..i agreed to buy a ticket to it before i realized the #^^ > ticket > was FORTY EIGHT DOLLARS. :P imvho this exercise is about at the > conceptual > level of re-transcribing Delta Blues for symphony orchestra and > employing > operatic tenors to sing the stuff. sans wit. often the music you > hear on > these classic game machines was designed _specifically_ for that game > machine and its associated development tools - although the machines > technically function as 'musical instruments', they are mediocre > ones at > best, and the decisions i made in composing for them often flew in > the face > of traditional orchestration. sigh. well, music is music i suppose, > and > organized pitch and time can be transliterated in a variety of ways. > having said that, i feel that this event is an expensive, ironic > gesture. i > figure i'll live thru the evening, but i hope i can get some > schmoozing done > out in the lobby. that's about the value i place on the evening. > flame away if you wish. i know i'm being a curmudgeon here, but i > just can't > stand this crap. game music paid my rent for about a decade, and i'm > still > enough of an aesthetician to have an opinion on the form. > > -----------end quote------------ > > what do i think is valid? > hmm. well for starters: http://www.chiptune.com/ > http://www.myspace.com/blipfestival > > lx :P > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From lx.rudis at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 01:25:35 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 01:25:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] three-fisted RANT about 'video games live' In-Reply-To: <44C27256-85E3-4C49-931D-5CE5799C8BD8@gmail.com> References: <7272233a0802131322p3ea80315gbc0bf4cf4f9ae0a3@mail.gmail.com> <44C27256-85E3-4C49-931D-5CE5799C8BD8@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7272233a0802140125x4963ba7ave11e061d47e60db@mail.gmail.com> hah, you're up also! On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 12:57 AM, barry threw wrote: > > It seems like most of the joy from the audience is just stemming from > the identification of games. This is fun...I guess. > yes, exactly. ...and i probly shouldn''t be too judgemental - for some folk it _is_ fun, and more power to them. they get to ID stuff from their youth, there's that irony component, symphonies usually sound pretty good no matter what they're playing... interesting though. As if somehow orchestrating this music makes it > more real, > that's probably what set me off. >or gives it greater value... yah. sigh. i give up. i have to acknowledge that for a certain percentage out there, this _does_ give videogame music greater value. but ...arrrrgh... does it even _need_ greater value? any value? this stuff doesn't usually get listened to in the way other musics are listened to: you're stuck in some dungeon for about five hours battling armed hellhounds, and the same tune plays over and over until your brain boils and you mute the audio. :D From bthrew at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 02:33:35 2008 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 02:33:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] three-fisted RANT about 'video games live' In-Reply-To: <7272233a0802140125x4963ba7ave11e061d47e60db@mail.gmail.com> References: <7272233a0802131322p3ea80315gbc0bf4cf4f9ae0a3@mail.gmail.com> <44C27256-85E3-4C49-931D-5CE5799C8BD8@gmail.com> <7272233a0802140125x4963ba7ave11e061d47e60db@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B84917E-CC0A-43D8-AA3D-921B22205AD2@gmail.com> > you're stuck in some dungeon for about five hours battling armed > hellhounds, and the same tune plays over and over until your brain > boils This is kind of what being at Mills was like... ZING! I joke... b -- barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From Damon at balancepointacoustics.com Thu Feb 14 10:08:04 2008 From: Damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:08:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? In-Reply-To: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> References: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> Message-ID: Am I correct in assuming I can bring a power strip and just one adapter for my electrical items? Or do I need a separate adapter for each one? Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From weaselw at juno.com Thu Feb 14 10:28:27 2008 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:28:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? Message-ID: <20080214.102830.10188.43.weaselw@juno.com> you need a power transformer because the voltage of european power is roughly twice that of u.s. power. you can, however, plug a power strip into the output end of the transformer. ww On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:08:04 -0800 Damon Smith writes: > Am I correct in assuming I can bring a power strip and just one > adapter for my electrical items? Or do I need a separate adapter for > > each one? > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From Damon at balancepointacoustics.com Thu Feb 14 10:33:40 2008 From: Damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:33:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? In-Reply-To: <20080214.102830.10188.43.weaselw@juno.com> References: <20080214.102830.10188.43.weaselw@juno.com> Message-ID: <9152CA61-07FA-4612-B448-C15B48B9E36F@balancepointacoustics.com> Right, I have one of those, but just one. On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:28 AM, weasel walter wrote: > you need a power transformer because the voltage of european power is > roughly twice that of u.s. power. you can, however, plug a power strip > into the output end of the transformer. > > ww > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:08:04 -0800 Damon Smith > writes: >> Am I correct in assuming I can bring a power strip and just one >> adapter for my electrical items? Or do I need a separate adapter for >> >> each one? >> >> Damon Smith >> >> http://www.balancepointacoustics.com >> http://myspace.com/smithdamon >> New solo project: >> http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From jfheule at gmail.com Thu Feb 14 10:37:41 2008 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:37:41 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? In-Reply-To: References: <089E8C1C-AF92-4303-A2C3-D036B7502E58@sfsound.org> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860802141037m3f7c009fma1ccbd4dcaff1bb0@mail.gmail.com> I believe that power in Germany and all of Europe is at 220V. If your device has an AC adapter that can handle that much input, then all you need is an adapter. My laptop power supply, for example, has an input range of 100-240V, so that's fine. If your AC adapter can only handle 120V, you'll probably fry it. DC devices don't use adapters, so you'd probably fry that stuff too. You'll need a transformer to reduce the incoming voltage. You can plug a US power strip directly into one of these. For the devices with AC adapters that can handle 220V, you might be able to use a US power strip, but all of mine indicate in input of about 120V, so you might fuck up the power strip itself by trying to send 220V through it, unless you bought one that was rated to handle it. I just got the message saying you have a transformer. Yes, you can plug one power strip into that and power as much American gear as you like. jacob On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Damon Smith wrote: > Am I correct in assuming I can bring a power strip and just one > adapter for my electrical items? Or do I need a separate adapter for > each one? > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick From letucepry at yahoo.com Thu Feb 14 12:01:02 2008 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:01:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? Message-ID: <528646.73029.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Damon, Please be aware that you will probably need to run around looking for adaptors for the transformer, depending on where you go once you get there, as some transformers are not able to fit on the recessed wall sockets that some countries require. A 220 to 110 transformer is necessary for most things except computers, although depending on what you are taking with you, you may need to ensure that you get one that can handle sufficient wattage/current for the application http://www.travelproducts.com/store/electric.htm Warning, some of these: A. Get very hot during usage B. Make a lot of noise that can be heard in a quiet room C. Will fall right out of the wall without notice (I personally had to get a european 6 plug powerstrip so that I could leave my synth plugged in as the travel adaptor kept falling out of the wall) lettuce ----- Original Message ---- From: Damon Smith To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:33:40 AM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? Right, I have one of those, but just one. On Feb 14, 2008, at 10:28 AM, weasel walter wrote: > you need a power transformer because the voltage of european power is > roughly twice that of u.s. power. you can, however, plug a power strip > into the output end of the transformer. > > ww > > On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 10:08:04 -0800 Damon Smith > writes: >> Am I correct in assuming I can bring a power strip and just one >> adapter for my electrical items? Or do I need a separate adapter for >> >> each one? >> >> Damon Smith >> >> http://www.balancepointacoustics.com >> http://myspace.com/smithdamon >> New solo project: >> http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From gcremaschi at hotmail.com Thu Feb 14 15:22:36 2008 From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi) Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 15:22:36 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Power outlets in Europe? In-Reply-To: <528646.73029.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <528646.73029.qm@web50310.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The typical 220 to 110 transformers are for up to 50 watts - that'll run a small mixer and 5 or 6 stomp boxes no problem. If you want to add a computer to the mix, then you'll need one more transformer, since that will push you way over the 50 watt limit, but most newer laptops come equipped with 'smart' adapters, that is, the adapter automatically senses the voltage. It'll say right on the adapter: something like "110-240v". If it just says "110v", you lose. Then the transformer, as Mr Lettuce said, will need another adapter to actually fit into the recessed wall sockets of most Euro countries. Also, the smart adapters need to be adapted. This is a crucial item - without it, you're usually shit out of luck. Radio Shack sells a nifty 'universal' adapter that'll take either an American plug or a flat Euro plug in and get you into those troublesome German outlets. That'll work everywhere except UK, Italy and Switzerland. I seem to recall Denmark also has it's own deal. On top of everything, bring a small roll of electrical tape: a plug into a transformer into an adapter into a wall socket usually needs a little help staying in place. And don't forget your 3-into-2 US converter - most transformers don't accept grounded plugs. Also, if you're running more than one 9-volt unit, a total weight-saver for me has been an adapter called the 1 Spot, which'll power up to 5 units, and is smart (110-220), and super lightweight. Goodbye transformer and a bunch of adapters, or switching out a handful of batteries every two gigs. -George _________________________________________________________________ Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_012008 From michaelz at zoka.com Fri Feb 15 09:58:54 2008 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 09:58:54 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Moe!kestra! CD review Message-ID: The Wire just got around to reviewing Moe!'s latest Moe!kestra! CD (released last May at the 10th anniversary concert) in its February issue. It's generally positive, so I don't need to do much editing for the PR quotes this time: Moe! Staiano's Moe!kestra! 2 Rooms of Uranium in 83 Markers (Edgetone, 2007) "... that exclamation mark on his name is intentional"! "[Like Anthony Braxton] Staiano. . . creates a powerful creative context that justifies the bother of splitting his musicians into two groups -- his material is diverse enough harmonically and gesturally that it forms an audible and meaningful montage. Hectic percussion grooves and frenzied electric guitar bump into walls of brass riffs that approach from the distance. There's a cathartic moment midway as the turbulent harmony coincides around pure triadic sounds, and there's a sense as the piece progresses of Staiano's material growing organically. 'Depleted Uranium' is light on its feet chamber music in comparison, but equally engaging." -- Philip Clark, The Wire MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From polly.moller at gmail.com Fri Feb 15 10:17:30 2008 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 10:17:30 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "you need to get a jobby job!" Message-ID: <2eb068d40802151017v27fa3b48y168ff93515eee3da@mail.gmail.com> As it was said back in the day...here is something musicky and markety in case anyone is interested. P. MARKETING COORDINATOR (emeryville) Reply to: job-573301121 at craigslist.org Date: 2008-02-13, 4:43PM PST Mix, Electronic Musician and Remix?national monthly magazines covering professional audio, music production and live performance?are seeking a talented, media-savvy Marketing Coordinator to drive promotions and branding in print, online and through events. The Marketing Coordinator will work independently and with the Marketing Director and other members of the publishing team to develop and create advertising and promotional materials in a variety of media. In addition to managing traditional marketing campaigns, the successful candidate will develop new initiatives focusing on the integration of print, online and event marketing. The Marketing Coordinator will have copywriting experience, as well as some layout and design skills for print and electronic applications, with experience in Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint, as well as Adobe InDesign, Photoshop and Dreamweaver or comparable applications. Knowledge of viral marketing, social networks and the music industry is a plus. This position requires some travel. A degree in advertising, marketing, journalism, design or a related field is desired. Please submit your resume and cover letter to Marketing Director Kirby Asplund at kirby.asplund at penton.com. Please place the job title for this position in the subject line. No phone calls please. Mix, Electronic Musician and Remix belong to Penton Media's Entertainment Technology Division. Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. Please, no phone calls about this job! Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. PostingID: 573301121 -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.pollymoller.com ------------------------------------------------------------ http://www.myspace.com/pollymoller ------------------------------------------------------------ From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sat Feb 16 08:56:57 2008 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:56:57 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49C8461E-B353-4A42-9604-9B96AA823144@slambassador.com> hi, sorry for the question of the archaic. do any of you local music makers put stuff out on vinyl? just curious...I would like to buy some new records! does anyone know of any websites (or shops) that specialize in new music vinyl? I've recently come upon the idea that buying a record with an mp3 download would be my favorite way to buy music, but it doesn't seem to be an option. Who would have thought: something impossible in the age of the interweb!? Peter. From jfheule at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 10:17:43 2008 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:17:43 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: <49C8461E-B353-4A42-9604-9B96AA823144@slambassador.com> References: <49C8461E-B353-4A42-9604-9B96AA823144@slambassador.com> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860802161017t743e9911r755f9480297b2f1e@mail.gmail.com> Ettrick's got vinyl: http://ettrick.org/store.html Don't buy it online though. Come out to our show on Friday! Fri 2/22 9:00 PM $7 Eli's Mile High Club [3629 Martin Luther King Jr Way Oakland, CA 94609] * OvO (Italy, toxic sludge with an unmistakable butterscotch scent) * The Better to See You With (Portland, a great psychedelic tapestry of intelligent brutality) * Ettrick (San Francisco, brutal improv, free death, acoustic grind) * Chen Santa Maria (Oakland, improvised electronic noise bursts) I can't think of any other local improv on vinyl. Can it be? I think all of the new vinyl I've acquired has been put out by noise musicians. jacob On Feb 16, 2008 8:56 AM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > hi, > > sorry for the question of the archaic. > do any of you local music makers put stuff out on vinyl? just > curious...I would like to buy some new records! > does anyone know of any websites (or shops) that specialize in new > music vinyl? I've recently come upon the idea that buying a record > with an mp3 download would be my favorite way to buy music, but it > doesn't seem to be an option. Who would have thought: something > impossible in the age of the interweb!? > > Peter. -- http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick From weaselw at juno.com Sat Feb 16 10:59:54 2008 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 10:59:54 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? Message-ID: <20080216.105956.10188.124.weaselw@juno.com> > sorry for the question of the archaic. > do any of you local music makers put stuff out on vinyl? just > curious...I would like to buy some new records! i stopped making vinyl releases years ago for a number of reasons. the quality of vinyl cutting and pressing has taken a nose dive. you just don't know what you're getting most of the time. with digital media, you know what you're going to get. the profit margin on vinyl sucks. it's way more hassle to produce. it takes up more room to store. it costs way more to ship and to fabricate packaging for. yadda yadda yadda. i grew up buying records and in the late '80s when they said vinyl was dying (or whatever) and i was pissed, declaring my allegiance to big plastic things in paper sleeves. vinyl was cheaper and at that point the mastering on most compact discs sounded like tinny crap, so at that point there was a lot of reason to take sides. as time went on and i had to start changing apartments every year, the appeal of vinyl began wearing off. every time i moved, i had to lift an extra ton of "magic". as i became a "professional" (cough) musician who needed to pay bills the idea of selling all of these big plastic things in paper sleeves became very appealing to me, so i did it. people gasped and said "how can you sell your records?" well, uh, to me at that point they were just big plastic things in paper sleeves. i could get the actual music elsewhere without the bulk, pops and clicks and crap like that, etc. so i didn't see any problem getting rid of them. dunno. i personally don't see the charm of vinyl at all anymore beyond the fact that they're "bigger" or something like that. records don't sound innately better than digital. pretty much all the vinyl i have now is stuff i can't really sell for anything, so i keep it around because they have music on them still. ww From djcypod at gmail.com Sat Feb 16 14:05:09 2008 From: djcypod at gmail.com (beau) Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 14:05:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "you need to get a jobby job!" In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40802151017v27fa3b48y168ff93515eee3da@mail.gmail.com> References: <2eb068d40802151017v27fa3b48y168ff93515eee3da@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: But I just want to test out all the new plug-inz and synths, not do all that inDesign slick sales business... On Feb 15, 2008 10:17 AM, Polly Moller wrote: > As it was said back in the day...here is something musicky and markety > in case anyone is interested. > P. > > MARKETING COORDINATOR (emeryville) > > Reply to: job-573301121 at craigslist.org > Date: 2008-02-13, 4:43PM PST > > > Mix, Electronic Musician and Remix?national monthly magazines covering > professional audio, music production and live performance?are seeking > a talented, media-savvy Marketing Coordinator to drive promotions and > branding in print, online and through events. > > The Marketing Coordinator will work independently and with the > Marketing Director and other members of the publishing team to develop > and create advertising and promotional materials in a variety of > media. In addition to managing traditional marketing campaigns, the > successful candidate will develop new initiatives focusing on the > integration of print, online and event marketing. > > The Marketing Coordinator will have copywriting experience, as well as > some layout and design skills for print and electronic applications, > with experience in Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint, as well as > Adobe InDesign, Photoshop and Dreamweaver or comparable applications. > Knowledge of viral marketing, social networks and the music industry > is a plus. This position requires some travel. > > A degree in advertising, marketing, journalism, design or a related > field is desired. > > Please submit your resume and cover letter to Marketing Director Kirby > Asplund at kirby.asplund at penton.com. Please place the job title for > this position in the subject line. No phone calls please. > > Mix, Electronic Musician and Remix belong to Penton Media's > Entertainment Technology Division. > > > Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. > Please, no phone calls about this job! > Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or > commercial interests. > > PostingID: 573301121 > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.pollymoller.com > ------------------------------------------------------------ > http://www.myspace.com/pollymoller > ------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sun Feb 17 21:14:19 2008 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:14:19 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Ettrick's got vinyl: http://ettrick.org/store.html > Don't buy it online though. Come out to our show on Friday! hmmm, I'll hold off on ordering until after this show, but I probably can't make it. You should play in San Jose instead, it would make it easier for ME :) > the > appeal of vinyl began wearing off. every time i moved, yeah, I haven't moved for a few years, so vinyl seems so great right now! It's not the "high-quality" of records I'm after, but rather, just the "quality" or nature. Most of the records I buy are under $3. And it's REALLY annoying to pay $3. But that's because I'm chasing the Martin Denny, Enoch Light, Xavier Cugat, and occasional Bert Kampfert records (suckerd by the good covers, but Bert's music generally blows), and only did I think recently it might be nice to have NON-novelty, new music on record. Of course, the cost of production is generally going to keep it away from smaller acts, but, it seems worth venture! Peter. From slusser at pixar.com Sun Feb 17 21:50:39 2008 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2008 21:50:39 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Feb 17, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: >> Ettrick's got vinyl: http://ettrick.org/store.html >> Don't buy it online though. Come out to our show on Friday! > > hmmm, I'll hold off on ordering until after this show, but I probably > can't make it. You should play in San Jose instead, it would make it > easier for ME :) >> the >> appeal of vinyl began wearing off. every time i moved, > > yeah, I haven't moved for a few years, so vinyl seems so great right > now! It's not the "high-quality" of records I'm after, but rather, > just the "quality" or nature. Most of the records I buy are under > $3. And it's REALLY annoying to pay $3. But that's because I'm > chasing the Martin Denny, Enoch Light, Xavier Cugat, and occasional > Bert Kampfert records (suckerd by the good covers, but Bert's music > generally blows), and only did I think recently it might be nice to > have NON-novelty, new music on record. Of course, the cost of > production is generally going to keep it away from smaller acts, but, > it seems worth venture! Obscure vinyl titles are the "long tail" of of our new internet retail paradigm. They never warranted a CD reissue in the prior CD market epoch, and so are pretty much non-existent in the world of file sharing. (I've painstakingly done a few, only to see them finally issued on CD.) Watch Amoeba Records for some of this stuff. Pristine vinyl is frequently the best surviving master, and they have plenty in the obscure realm. True to form, they're ready to put the composer and publisher fees into escrow to await the eventual location of said parties, while putting it on the market for everyone's benefit. From bthrew at gmail.com Mon Feb 18 11:10:30 2008 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 11:10:30 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: <49C8461E-B353-4A42-9604-9B96AA823144@slambassador.com> References: <49C8461E-B353-4A42-9604-9B96AA823144@slambassador.com> Message-ID: www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com By now. b On Feb 16, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > hi, > > sorry for the question of the archaic. > do any of you local music makers put stuff out on vinyl? just > curious...I would like to buy some new records! > does anyone know of any websites (or shops) that specialize in new > music vinyl? I've recently come upon the idea that buying a record > with an mp3 download would be my favorite way to buy music, but it > doesn't seem to be an option. Who would have thought: something > impossible in the age of the interweb!? > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From pnyboer at slambassador.com Mon Feb 18 22:30:42 2008 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:30:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98844A44-DCF7-4E91-8852-5D6ACB905C79@slambassador.com> > > www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com > By now. with a "product" like that on the "market," it's really hard to fathom that any of the few people with $10^8+ don't just take care of this. i'd have to say that it proves that money distorts one's perception of the world. World hunger? Education? Running steel mills? When you could spend your time pawing through all those fuckin' records? PRIORITIES, MAN!! Peter. From mhenry at crypticstudios.com Tue Feb 19 03:18:15 2008 From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:18:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Vinyl? Message-ID: >>www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com >>By now. Well, I'd be all over this collection, but I notice he seems to be missing that one special Barbra Streisand LP I've been looking for. Without that, no deal. Nice shelves though. -MH From mhenry at crypticstudios.com Tue Feb 19 11:23:05 2008 From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 11:23:05 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Obituary Message-ID: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080218/LIFE/802180306/1076 CD finally put out of its misery By Chris Riemenschneider McClatchy-Tribune News Service Once praised for its clear, crisp audio quality but panned for its susceptibility to scratches and smudges, the compact disc passed away in 2007 after a quick but painful illness. It was 25 years old. The final cause of death has not been determined, but friends and fans blamed digital-download sites such as iTunes and illegal file-sharing among rich kids. In addition, doctors pointed to the big record companies and mega-selling artists who put out CDs in recent years that featured only a few good songs and lots of filler. Simon Cowell, who also is a suspect in a mass plot to ruin pop music, is being questioned by police. The CD was preceded in death by its siblings, the cassette and 8-track tape. Its older cousin, the vinyl record, has been hanging on for two decades, with life support from nerdy audiophiles. Conceived in 1979 by engineers at Sony and Philips, the CD first went on the market in 1982. The inaugural album was Abba's "The Visitors," which led to Jerry Falwell's accusation that it was gay technology. The CD survived, though, and went on to account for about 200 billion album sales worldwide. Its success led to a record-industry heyday in the 1990s, when such substantive and high-quality artists as Garth Brooks, Celine Dion, Shania Twain, the Backstreet Boys and Ace of Base sold CDs like umbrellas during monsoon season. "The compact disc was such a great friend," Brooks mourned. "You could pop a CD into the stereo on your pickup truck or Lear jet and let it just keep spinning and spinning." Since 2004, CD sales have declined by one-third while digital album sales have quintupled. Last year's 19 percent slide from 2006 led doctors to finally sign off on its death notice. 3 REASONS TO MOURN THE CD 1. No, really, they do sound better. Most MP3s feature data that's compressed for quicker downloads. 2. Album artwork! 3. You can't throw MP3s out the window like frisbees. 3 Reasons to cheer its death 1. No more cellophane wrap. 2. It's good for the Earth. 3. Gen-Xers have to own up to being old. Remember how you rolled your eyes when an "old" guy said, "Man, if it ain't on vinyl, it ain't on!" You're that guy now. ---------------------- From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 19 14:45:49 2008 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:45:49 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Vinyl? Message-ID: To me, music delivery formats are akin to a food-delivery format such as bread (or pasta). Some things taste better on sourdough or rye, while other things taste good on everything. Saying that one format is dead or is "last year" is meaningless, unless you're a major label and have millions invested. Musicians are still releasing cassettes, for example, not to mention reels and vinyl. Some of us still have a collection of music on cassettes, DATS, reels, records, and all sorts of discs. Just because it isn't worth anything at Amoeba or on Ebay doesn't mean one can't enjoy the listening experience. FWIW, I happen to like hearing rock music on vinyl. The drums and guitars sound great when the disc is well mastered. I also enjoy loudish orchestral music and jazz on record. Shiurba and I recently did a 4-LP direct-to-disc session in LA with David Rothbaum and Jeremy Drake, which includes a side of spontaneously created locked loops. It's an art piece. I still like art. I even like music and musicians, sometimes. From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Tue Feb 19 16:41:16 2008 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:41:16 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Roscoe Article in SF Chron Message-ID: <720FBD88-5369-4E76-8BC9-4A74AC3110BC@matthewgoodheart.com> Did somebody post this yet? http://tinyurl.com/3e4weo Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From jfheule at gmail.com Wed Feb 20 07:46:23 2008 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 07:46:23 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] [NewMusicEvents] NewMusicEvents Digest, Vol 22, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c5cfa860802200746o643a2f10h7d28499fd337c275@mail.gmail.com> Is this genuine nostalgia stemming from too many months in Eastern Europe? You'll have to come out to the show to find out how a cream cheese-based sandwich can be vegan. I'm curious myself. And don't worry. When I make b?nh m? for my shows, there's nothing vegan about them. Lots of weird processed pork. Not that I actually have anything against veganism. jacob On Feb 20, 2008 7:00 AM, George Cremaschi wrote: > > > > WEDNESDAY! Club Sandwich presents... > > > cucumber cream cheese sandwiches with dill (vegan) by Brianna Toth > > Mmmmmmm! > > Young vegan food - how charming. > > -George -- http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick From phil at philipgelb.com Wed Feb 20 08:01:09 2008 From: phil at philipgelb.com (Philip Gelb) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:01:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] [NewMusicEvents] NewMusicEvents Digest, Vol 22, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860802200746o643a2f10h7d28499fd337c275@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c5cfa860802200746o643a2f10h7d28499fd337c275@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: it is quite simple to make a faux cream cheese out of cashews that is all vegan new music combined with vegan food. Imitators!! :) phil Philip Gelb vegetarian chef shakuhachi player, teacher phil at philipgelb.com http://philipgelb.com http://myspace.com/inthemoodforfood http://myspace.com/philipgelb On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:46 AM, jacob felix heule wrote: > Is this genuine nostalgia stemming from too many months in Eastern > Europe? You'll have to come out to the show to find out how a cream > cheese-based sandwich can be vegan. I'm curious myself. And don't > worry. When I make b?nh m? for my shows, there's nothing vegan about > them. Lots of weird processed pork. Not that I actually have anything > against veganism. > > jacob > > On Feb 20, 2008 7:00 AM, George Cremaschi > wrote: >> >> >>> WEDNESDAY! Club Sandwich presents... >> >>> cucumber cream cheese sandwiches with dill (vegan) by Brianna Toth >> >> Mmmmmmm! >> >> Young vegan food - how charming. >> >> -George > > > > -- > http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix > http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From stevepolta at yahoo.com Wed Feb 20 14:20:16 2008 From: stevepolta at yahoo.com (Steve Polta) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:20:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <553830.74112.qm@web57714.mail.re3.yahoo.com> was it mentioned that this collection is up on the block at eBay...? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140206309501 --- barry threw wrote: > www.thegreatestmusiccollection.com > > By now. > > b > > On Feb 16, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > > > hi, > > > > sorry for the question of the archaic. > > do any of you local music makers put stuff out on > vinyl? just > > curious...I would like to buy some new records! > > does anyone know of any websites (or shops) that > specialize in new > > music vinyl? I've recently come upon the idea that > buying a record > > with an mp3 download would be my favorite way to > buy music, but it > > doesn't seem to be an option. Who would have > thought: something > > impossible in the age of the interweb!? > > > > Peter. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > barry threw > Media Art and Technology > > San Francisco, CA > Work: 857-544-3967 > Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com > Web: www.barrythrew.com > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs From michaelz at zoka.com Wed Feb 20 14:34:27 2008 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 14:34:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] vinyl? In-Reply-To: <553830.74112.qm@web57714.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <553830.74112.qm@web57714.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/20/08, Steve Polta wrote: >was it mentioned that this collection is up on the >block at eBay...? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140206309501 It's worth it only if the collection includes all of these records: 20 Creepiest Album Covers MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From mattdavignon at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 18:45:04 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:45:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] My favorite albums of 2007 Message-ID: I posted earlier about a sentiment of mine, regarding that it's now 2008, and I haven't felt much in the way of great "uniquely 2000's" movements in music. Despite the lack of major movements, I heard lots of great stuff in 2007 from individual unique artists, and I thought I might share some of my favorite albums of the year: Efterklang "Parades": This was one of a few groups that I discovered simply because it was on Emusic and I had a few downloads left for the month. Efterklang is a Danish group that involves small ensemble instrumentation (strings, brass, etc) combined with subtle electronics. The vocals can be male, female, or my favorite, a men's chorus. Radiohead "In Rainbows": This is the first time I'd call myself a Radiohead fan, but I can't get enough of this new album. It combines 'real' and electronic instrumentation with some excellent production. I'd put this on a level with some of my favorite Talking Heads or Pink Floyd cd's. Can such a thing as "art rock" still exist? Now I'm thinking I need to start exploring the band's back catalogue. Doveman "With My Left Hand I Raise the Dead": Another random Emusic download. I should start by saying that I'd been planning to start an album of songs for over a year, and this disc sounds a lot like the sorts of things I was planning to explore. Kind of lullabye-ish songs with subtle touches in experimental production. In between are little instrumental segueways. Well, admittedly, something by me might be a little 'weirder', but this is undeniably, unembarrassingly lovely. El-P "I'll Sleep When You're Dead" / Aesop Rock "None Shall Pass": These albums are similar enough that I listed them together - two of this decade's top rapper-producers of underground hip-hop still at the top of their game. El-P's production and composition skills are a little more advanced, drawing influences from such things as 70's synthesizer rock and industrial music. He does a great job of conveying the paranoia and confusion of a modern dystopian society. Aesop Rock is a little more 'hip' and accessible, with more pop culture references and humorous samples in his instrumental tracks. (I should mention that one of the tracks samples Snakefinger.) I enjoy Aesop's raps a little better - he has a more distinctive voice and vocal style. Both albums are crazily creative and very different from the rap music you'll hear on ClearChannel stations. I'd recommend both, but probably not buying them on the same record store trip. Einsturzende Neubauten "Alles Wieder Offen" - I thought my days of honesly liking a new Einsturzende album were in the past, but this one pulls it off. EN are still not as full as angst as they were in the 80's, but this new album does bring back that raw mechanical energy that's been missing for the last 15 years or so. Some of the songs are even fun! MIA "Kala": I'm not sure what the appeal is about MIA. She's not a terribly good singer, and she only self-produces a few songs on her albums. There's definitely something to her though, and she manages to bring that out of the people she works with. If there's a theme to this album, it's about bringing 3rd world influences into U.K. grime and modern MTV style music. Not all the songs are good, but the good ones are addictive. Check out the videos for "Bird Flu", "Boyz" and "Jimmy" on YouTube. If you like them, you'll probably like the album. Rafter "Sex Death Cassette": I admit, Rafter's someone I used to record during my early music days, so I'm a little biased. I think of him as a genius of bedroom-recorded 4-track cassette music. Since I worked with him, he's built a custom professional grade recording studio, produced albums for bands like the Castanets and Godspeed You Black Emperor, and is gainfully employed making music for tv commercials. On this album he looks back on the 4-track music that I originally fell in love with. Agnes Szelag "No Summer or Winter": I admit I often hold cd's by local artists to a different standard from those by artists of international caliber. Well, Agnes's new ep is something I'd consider to be internationally good - as good as recent work by Tim Hecker or stuff on the UK's Touch label - glitchy saturated instrumental tracks for electronics, cello and voice. Valet "Blood is Clean" - Another emusic find. Apparently Valet is the new solo project of Honey Owens, who's a member of Jackie O Motherfucker (who I still haven't heard yet). This new album is another one that sounds sort of in the direction of what I wanted to explore with my next cd. (I hate it when I have to come up with original ideas!) This disc includes elements of psychedelia, drone, experimental noises, and jewelled-antler style 'free folk', and songwriting without falling too much into any direction. Quiet and spacey - sort of reminds me of a more extreme version how Mazzy Star used to make me feel when I was in college. It's also sonically in the same vein as the "Muck" cd Ernesto Diaz-Infante and I did a few years ago. Bjork "Volta": Bjork is another artist that it seems like everyone else has liked since the 90's, but I've just recently started listening to. I've felt that the albums up to Vespertine were slightly too poppy, while Medulla and Drawing Restraint were trying too hard to be avant garde. Here I think it's just right. Definitely pop, but definitely weird, without the need to make concessions from either direction. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From weaselw at juno.com Thu Feb 21 20:00:26 2008 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:00:26 GMT Subject: [NewMusic] My favorite albums of 2007 Message-ID: <20080221.200026.8679.0@webmail07.vgs.untd.com> 1. The Flying Luttenbachers - Incarceration By Abstraction 2. Weasel Walter - Firestorm 3. To Live and Shave in L.A. 2 - The 300 Dollar Silk Shirt 4. XBXRX - Wars 5. Weasel Walter - Early Recordings: 1988-1991 6. Mayhem - Ordo Ad Chao 7. Peter Evans Quartet 8. Hawkwind Mix CD I made 1971-1975 9. Yosuke Yamashita Frasco Box (only the good ones) 10. Masayuki Takayanagi - Complete "La Grima" ww From jfheule at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 20:59:42 2008 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 20:59:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] photos Message-ID: <9c5cfa860802212059n361b4ce3j26d816aab2cbe46d@mail.gmail.com> http://www.flickr.com/photos/74578389 at N00/sets/72157600278274486/ Lotsa new photos online. Anni Rossi, Some Dark Holler, Healing Force, ROVA, Vis Viva, Pukers, etc. jacob -- http://heule.us & http://myspace.com/jacobfelix http://ettrick.org & http://myspace.com/ettrick From djcypod at gmail.com Thu Feb 21 21:56:18 2008 From: djcypod at gmail.com (beau) Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 21:56:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Earth, Wind, Fire and Water Message-ID: Freesound, M-Audio and Soundman together with Computer Music Magazine proudly present the first Freesound competition. Themed as "Earth, Wind, Fire and Water" this competition will use The Freesound Project as the setting for the oldest battle on this planet: the battle of the elements! http://freesound.iua.upf.edu/competition.php The rules failure to comply with all the rules below will most likely result in removal from the competition. So better read them carefully. You have to upload at least 4 sounds, each one themed as one of the elements. You have to record or synthesise these sounds, one for "earth", one for "wind", one for "water" and one for "fire". Sounds can be any length (up to -say- 5 minutes), but need to be sounds, not songs! If you feel like entering more than once in the competition, that's ok, just upload another set of 4 (you could put them in sample packs). You need to give your sounds a good description and you need to tag them with the tags "earth" or "wind" or "fire" or "water" depending on the sound... Describing a sample in a good way also means you have to tag them with more than just your "earth"/... tag and give them a long description of what you recorded or how you created the sound! Look around on freesound to get a feeling for tagging and descriptions if you have any doubts. The competition will run until Friday April 7. Obviously the samples need to be made or recorded by you and must comply with our legal terms, but that goes without saying ;-) If you have any questions about the rules, please use this forum thread to ask questions. The prize Instead of cutting up the prize in separate pieces, we've decided to go with a "winner takes all" approach. And what a prize it is! You get the M-Audio Microtrack, a flash-based miniature audio recorder, one superb set of the Soundman in-ear microphones -perfect for fieldrecording- and the audio-processing/mastering effects suite Ozone from Izotope, to finalize your sound. M-Audio Microtrack The MicroTrack is a rugged high-fidelity mobile 2-channel digital recorder that records WAV and MP3 files to CompactFlash or microdrives perfect for everything from professional field recording to corporate meetings, training, education and worship. Record via balanced line inputs or built-in high-fidelity microphone preamps complete with phantom power for studio-quality microphones. Connect MicroTrack to a PC or Mac via USB and simply drag and drop recordings to your computer for immediate editing or Web posting. Power derives from a lithium-ion battery, and the unit can recharge via the computer?s USB connection or USB power adapter. The MicroTrack combines quality beyond that of DAT recording with the convenience and cost-effectiveness of personal digital recorders for the ultimate solution in mobile recording. Soundman OKM Binaural Microphones The OKM original head-microphone is a ball look Elektret-microphone which comes with an enclosed A3 adapter. This combination can be used to make excellent quality surround recordings. The OKM original head-microphone is a new and uniquely designed microphone, developed especially for mini recording systems. Its special design allows it to be used for the most diverse applications. Izotope Ozone Mastering Processors Ozone combines analog modeling with 64-bit digital precision to deliver a complete set of world class mastering processors. From the warm sound of tube modeled equalizers to the pure transparency of linear phase filters, Ozone provides the tools and the technology you need to deliver top notch audio masters. From bischoff at mills.edu Fri Feb 22 15:34:31 2008 From: bischoff at mills.edu (John Bischoff) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:34:31 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] [Fwd: Media Studies Position at Hunter/CUNY, please distribute] Message-ID: <47BF5C07.4040402@mills.edu> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [EMF World] Media Studies Position at Hunter/CUNY, please distribute Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:08:53 -0500 (EST) From: Andrea Polli To: emfsubs at emfmail.org Position: Assistant of Associate Professor, Department of Film and Media Salary: Unspecified Institution: Hunter College of the City University of New York Location: New York Date posted: 1/21/2008 ASSISTANT OR ASSOCIATE PROFESSOR DEPARTMENT OF FILM AND MEDIA The Department of Film and Media Studies at Hunter College of the City University of New York, which combines critical analysis with a range of creative media practices, invites applications for an Assistant/Associate professor of media studies with substantial research and teaching knowledge of the media and their historical and contemporary contexts. Courses will be taught in the undergraduate Media Studies program and the graduate Integrated Media Arts (IMA) M.F.A. program. A Ph.D. in media studies or related area required. For a detailed job description, please visit: http://hr.hunter.cuny.edu/jobs/index.html. To apply, please submit a letter of application, a current curriculum vitae, a summary of teaching philosophy and a list of three references to: Dr. James Roman, Chair, Department of Film and Media Studies, Hunter College, 695 Park Avenue, New York, NY 10065. EEO/AA/ADA/IRCA employer. From praemedia at yahoo.com Fri Feb 22 15:41:22 2008 From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 15:41:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Antonioni Tribute Message-ID: <605900.93789.qm@web51602.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Don't think this made it to the list last time I sent it. If so, my apologies > Hello everyone. > > > Last July, Michelangelo Antonioni passed and I am > planning on releasing a Antonioni tribute on > Praemedia. Of course, it is a clich? idea and I had to > wrestle with that a bit, but as a small private > gesture, I could not resist. It is difficult to bring > extra-musical influences into music, so this is my > small, simple way to point out his influence. > > I am inviting you to participate. There are no limits > on time or content. Any submissions can be sent to > 1251 17th Ave. , #1 , San Francisco , CA , USA before > June 23rd, 2008. I am planning on having the project > online by Antonioni?s birthday on September 29th. > > This will be a web release ONLY, probably the first on > our label as we begin to move to the internet only. It > will be available as a free download. > > If you have any questions, please don?t hesitate to > e-mail me and please forward this along to any other > interested parties. > > Thank you. > > Lance Grabmiller > www.praemedia.com > ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 22 19:06:20 2008 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:06:20 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Teo Macero RIP Message-ID: http://tinyurl.com/2s9qsa From djcypod at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 17:20:44 2008 From: djcypod at gmail.com (beau) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:20:44 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] SF Laptop Battle CD released on Daly City Records Message-ID: SF Laptop & Machine Battles 2007 US Shipping / $10.00 Cat: DCR123 Label: Daly City Records Release Date: 03/11/2008 Format: CD Artist include: BlipVert Nosaj Thing Nezzy Idy MattyBoJangles Many IIz Darkat Cypod Laskfar Vortok Deep Cuts Evan Morris Starpause Kevin Shea Adams D-Rex Whormongr Jasper Reeder Listen and Purchase: http://www.dalycityrecords.com/dalycity.php?SCREEN=store&department=14 From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Feb 24 17:43:03 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 17:43:03 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] fun videos Message-ID: Death Threat Elmo http://youtube.com/watch?v=tPQIeiGojkk Stupid hard homebrew 8 bit videogame (made of other 8 bit videogames) http://youtube.com/watch?v=CPBgxWyXYKI "Clean up the poopie from your weiners if you want to see Jesus again" http://youtube.com/watch?v=yLXZi5DdjJA From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Feb 25 18:40:44 2008 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 18:40:44 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New CD and tour References: <262333.24203.qm@web82015.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: New CD: BPA 013 - JUS Lindsay/Mendoza/Smith/Walter Jacob Lindsay - Ab, Bb, Bass & Contrabass Clarinets Ava Mendoza - Guitar Damon Smith - 7 String Ergo Bass, lloopp Weasel Walter - Percussion Liner notes by Christian Weber Cover Art by Chelsea Pegram Design by Alan Azalone Recorded by Scott R. Looney Mixed and Mastered by Weasel Walter A Track can be heard here: http://myspace.com/smithdamon More here: http://www.balancepointacoustics.com Jus will be available shortly You can send a paypal for $15 pp to damon at balancepointacoustics.com If you would like one. Tour: Germany/Israel/Austria/Belgium 1-3-08, 9 pm H7_Club f?r improvisierte Musik, Blinzelbar Gr. Bergstr.158, Hamburg Liz Albee, trumpet, electronics (Oakland, CA) Birgit Ulher, trumpet Heiner Metzger, soundtable Raed Yassin, electronics (Beirut) Michael Maierhof, cello Damon Smith, double bass (Oakland, CA) 8-3-08, 8pm Pyramida, Madregot Miller 6, Haifa, Israel Damon Smith - double bass Birgit Ulher - trumpet + Tanaka: Adi Snir - soprano & tenor sax, clarinet Roni Brenner - guitar Michel Mayer - guitar Ofer Bymel - drums 13-3-08, 8pm HaTeiva, corner of Salame/Yerushalaim, Tel Aviv-Jaffa, Israel Damon Smith - double bass Birgit Ulher - trumpet + 24Limbs Orchestra: Ariel Shibolet - soprano sax Yoni Silver - bass clarinet Roni Brenner - guitar Michel Mayer - guitar Shmil Frenkle - doublebass Ofer Bymel - drums 14-3-08 Tel Aviv Improvised Music Meeting Hagada Hasmalit, Echad Ha'am 70, Tel Aviv, Israel with Tanaka, Ariel Shibolet, Damon Smith and Birgit Ulher amongst others Marco Eneidi March, 20 2008 at ITCHYSCRATCHY AUDIODAZE Not Available , Not Available , Wien 1150 Cost : damon smith - bass, tom zlabinger - bass, andreas menrath - drums, hans falb - turntables, martin siewert - guitar, marco eneidi - alto saxophone Blue Tomato - Vienna March 23 Archiduc Brussels, Belgium 9 pm. Fred Van Hove - piano Peter Jacquemyn, Damon Smith - double basses 29-3-08, 9pm Westwerk, Admiralit?tstr.74, Hamburg Lise-Lotte Norelius, live-electronics (Stockholm) Damon Smith, double bass (Oakland, CA) + Nordzucker: Birgit Ulher, trumpet Lars Scherzberg, saxofon Michael Maierhof, cellos Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 14:01:07 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:01:07 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] huun-huur-tu tonight! Message-ID: I just found out that Huun-Huur-Tu (tuvan throat singing group) is performing tonight at the Great American Music Hall. I love their music, and not just because of the vocal techniques. Is anyone interested in going? Doors at 7, show at 8, tix are $25. Please let me know asap. Matt From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 26 15:11:58 2008 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 17:11:58 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower Electronics Message-ID: Hey, I'm tired of reading gig announcements on this list disguised as news. So here's a distraction: a patchable, portable synth. www.flowerelectronics.com/Standard.html g From michaelz at zoka.com Tue Feb 26 15:38:21 2008 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 15:38:21 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower Electronics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2/26/08, Robair, Gino wrote: >Hey, >I'm tired of reading gig announcements on this list disguised as news. > >So here's a distraction: a patchable, portable synth. >www.flowerelectronics.com/Standard.html Hey, that looks like fun, Gino. But their other product looks like even more fun! Battery Powered Noise Generator MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From lx.rudis at gmail.com Tue Feb 26 18:20:38 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 18:20:38 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower Electronics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7272233a0802261820x6abdbeadq78b4c987766d230c@mail.gmail.com> this is a very nice site. i especially like the tone of this page, designed to encourage others to experiment with circuitry: http://www.flowerelectronics.com/Resources.html thx gino! On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 3:11 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > Hey, > I'm tired of reading gig announcements on this list disguised as news. > > So here's a distraction: a patchable, portable synth. > www.flowerelectronics.com/Standard.html > > g > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From pnyboer at slambassador.com Tue Feb 26 22:28:10 2008 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 22:28:10 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> > http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which is also interesting along the same lines! P. From bthrew at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 00:11:33 2008 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 00:11:33 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower Electronics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D623B2E-8E02-4C4C-A06B-E4A42CD231EB@gmail.com> Jessica makes good stuff. Recommended. She was out interning with Don Buchla last summer. b On Feb 26, 2008, at 3:11 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > Hey, > I'm tired of reading gig announcements on this list disguised as news. > > So here's a distraction: a patchable, portable synth. > www.flowerelectronics.com/Standard.html > > g > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From lx.rudis at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 11:15:06 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 11:15:06 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> References: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> Message-ID: <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> nyboer: > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which crikey, that IS nice. i'm interested in that forthcoming sequencer they hint at. what cool little boxen! sigh. gino, was this thread a ploy to provoke me into revealing Trade Secrets? http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-electronic-sensor-lab-on-wwwradioshackcom--pi-2102912.html ...and as flowerelectronics says so well: "The single most important author in the world of "popular" electronics is certainly Forrest Mims III. His series of "Engineers Mini-Notebooks" are so popular that when Radio Shack stopped selling them a few years ago, I saw some art school students passing each other photocopied bootlegs! Fortunately his books are still in print and you can order them online. " the sensor slab has a cheap but useable experimenter breadboard with enough real estate to build two or three small experiments simultaneously, and mims' sense of idiot glee provokes all sorts of creative misuse of the published experiments. buy a bag of random LEDs for additional fun and experimentation. for example, K. Miltner and i used the slab to create a magnetic pendulum "T-oscillator" which used capacitance and light to transform frequency and timbre while the pendulum provided 'rhythm'. took about an hour, start to finish, using only the parts supplied in the $49.95 kit. On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > > > http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ > > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which > is also interesting along the same lines! > > P. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From tjt at nosuch.com Wed Feb 27 12:08:18 2008 From: tjt at nosuch.com (Tim Thompson) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:08:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] patchable portable In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <030b01c8797c$80db9940$8292cbc0$@com> > So here's a distraction: a patchable, portable synth. > www.flowerelectronics.com/Standard.html Cheaper with more knobs: http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/bc16.html ...Tim... From miltnerunit at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 12:40:48 2008 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:40:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> References: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: ha! i remember that! I love the spring circuits because they take no time at all. I've translated many a Mims "slab" project to circuitboards. I love that thing. It's been in a box since I moved, I have to go find it. those Forest Mims' projects started the whole thing for me... ...the 'squeakbox' that uses a pencil marks as a resistor when you ran leads up and down it -- resulting in a change in the pitch of the sawtooth wave it generates -- that was a modified Mims project, some of the photocell circuits i've built started from there too. oh boy... the chimera looks like a LOT of fun and a really smart design. Lots of things to play with and small. I might have to try it out... k On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, lx rudis wrote: > nyboer: > > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which > > crikey, that IS nice. i'm interested in that forthcoming sequencer they > hint at. what cool little boxen! > > sigh. gino, was this thread a ploy to provoke me into revealing Trade > Secrets? > > > http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-electronic-sensor-lab-on-wwwradioshackcom--pi-2102912.html > > ...and as flowerelectronics says so well: > "The single most important author in the world of "popular" electronics is > certainly Forrest Mims III. His series of "Engineers Mini-Notebooks" are > so > popular that when Radio Shack stopped selling them a few years ago, I saw > some art school students passing each other photocopied bootlegs! > Fortunately his books are still in print and you can order them > online. > " > > the sensor slab has a cheap but useable experimenter breadboard with > enough > real estate to build two or three small experiments simultaneously, and > mims' sense of idiot glee provokes all sorts of creative misuse of the > published experiments. buy a bag of random LEDs for additional fun and > experimentation. > > for example, K. Miltner and i used the slab to create a magnetic pendulum > "T-oscillator" which used capacitance and light to transform frequency and > timbre while the pendulum provided 'rhythm'. took about an hour, start to > finish, using only the parts supplied in the $49.95 kit. > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Peter Nyboer > wrote: > > > > > > http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ > > > > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which > > is also interesting along the same lines! > > > > P. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.myspace.com/miltnerunit From tim at perkis.com Wed Feb 27 13:06:50 2008 From: tim at perkis.com (Tim Perkis) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 13:06:50 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] improv brain shutdown Message-ID: <47C5D0EA.8000202@perkis.com> Study: Prefrontal Cortex In Jazz Musicians Winds Down When Improvising Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. ...All of this was accomplished while the musicians lay on their backs with their heads and torsos inside an fMRI scanner and their knees bent upward. The plastic keyboard, which was shortened to fit inside the scanner and which had its magnetic parts removed for safety, rested on the musicians' knees.... http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising From mattdavignon at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 14:06:44 2008 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 14:06:44 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] improv brain shutdown In-Reply-To: <47C5D0EA.8000202@perkis.com> References: <47C5D0EA.8000202@perkis.com> Message-ID: Heh, I misread that at first, to say "...while a small region involved in organizing self-inflating thoughts and behaviors is highly activated." Matt On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Tim Perkis wrote: > > Study: Prefrontal Cortex In Jazz Musicians Winds Down When > Improvising > > > > Scientists funded by the National Institute on Deafness and Other > Communication Disorders (NIDCD) have found that, when jazz musicians are > engaged in the highly creative and spontaneous activity known as > improvisation, a large region of the brain involved in monitoring one's > performance is shut down, while a small region involved in organizing > self-initiated thoughts and behaviors is highly activated. > > ...All of this was accomplished while the musicians lay on their backs > with their heads and torsos inside an fMRI scanner and their knees bent > upward. The plastic keyboard, which was shortened to fit inside the > scanner and which had its magnetic parts removed for safety, rested on > the musicians' knees.... > > http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/study_prefrontal_cortex_in_jazz_musicians_winds_down_when_improvising > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From lx.rudis at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 15:48:20 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 15:48:20 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: References: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <7272233a0802271548ra653450w623cdb4c1d57f910@mail.gmail.com> god we are such geeks. has everyone unsubbed yet? :D On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, kristin miltner wrote: > ha! i remember that! I love the spring circuits because they take no time > at > all. > I've translated many a Mims "slab" project to circuitboards. I love that > thing. It's been in a box since I moved, I have to go find it. > those Forest Mims' projects started the whole thing for me... > ...the 'squeakbox' that uses a pencil marks as a resistor when you ran > leads > up and down it -- resulting in a change in the pitch of the sawtooth wave > it > generates -- that was a modified Mims project, some of the photocell > circuits i've built started from there too. > > oh boy... the chimera looks like a LOT of fun and a really smart design. > Lots of things to play with and small. I might have to try it out... > > > k > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, lx rudis wrote: > > > nyboer: > > > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which > > > > crikey, that IS nice. i'm interested in that forthcoming sequencer they > > hint at. what cool little boxen! > > > > sigh. gino, was this thread a ploy to provoke me into revealing Trade > > Secrets? > > > > > > > http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-electronic-sensor-lab-on-wwwradioshackcom--pi-2102912.html > > > > ...and as flowerelectronics says so well: > > "The single most important author in the world of "popular" electronics > is > > certainly Forrest Mims III. His series of "Engineers Mini-Notebooks" are > > so > > popular that when Radio Shack stopped selling them a few years ago, I > saw > > some art school students passing each other photocopied bootlegs! > > Fortunately his books are still in print and you can order them > > online. > > " > > > > the sensor slab has a cheap but useable experimenter breadboard with > > enough > > real estate to build two or three small experiments simultaneously, and > > mims' sense of idiot glee provokes all sorts of creative misuse of the > > published experiments. buy a bag of random LEDs for additional fun and > > experimentation. > > > > for example, K. Miltner and i used the slab to create a magnetic > pendulum > > "T-oscillator" which used capacitance and light to transform frequency > and > > timbre while the pendulum provided 'rhythm'. took about an hour, start > to > > finish, using only the parts supplied in the $49.95 kit. > > > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Peter Nyboer > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ > > > > > > well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ which > > > is also interesting along the same lines! > > > > > > P. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > -- > kristin miltner > audio professional > www.myspace.com/miltnerunit > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From bthrew at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 16:37:39 2008 From: bthrew at gmail.com (barry threw) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:37:39 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: <7272233a0802271548ra653450w623cdb4c1d57f910@mail.gmail.com> References: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> <7272233a0802271548ra653450w623cdb4c1d57f910@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A06E93E-47F5-460D-AF67-1CE9E5722FBB@gmail.com> You kidding? I just started reading again. b On Feb 27, 2008, at 3:48 PM, lx rudis wrote: > god we are such geeks. has everyone unsubbed yet? > > :D > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, kristin miltner > > wrote: > >> ha! i remember that! I love the spring circuits because they take >> no time >> at >> all. >> I've translated many a Mims "slab" project to circuitboards. I love >> that >> thing. It's been in a box since I moved, I have to go find it. >> those Forest Mims' projects started the whole thing for me... >> ...the 'squeakbox' that uses a pencil marks as a resistor when you >> ran >> leads >> up and down it -- resulting in a change in the pitch of the >> sawtooth wave >> it >> generates -- that was a modified Mims project, some of the photocell >> circuits i've built started from there too. >> >> oh boy... the chimera looks like a LOT of fun and a really smart >> design. >> Lots of things to play with and small. I might have to try it out... >> >> >> k >> >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, lx rudis >> wrote: >> >>> nyboer: >>>> well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ >>>> which >>> >>> crikey, that IS nice. i'm interested in that forthcoming >>> sequencer they >>> hint at. what cool little boxen! >>> >>> sigh. gino, was this thread a ploy to provoke me into revealing >>> Trade >>> Secrets? >>> >>> >>> >> http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-electronic-sensor-lab-on-wwwradioshackcom--pi-2102912.html >>> >>> ...and as flowerelectronics says so well: >>> "The single most important author in the world of "popular" >>> electronics >> is >>> certainly Forrest Mims III. His series of "Engineers Mini- >>> Notebooks" are >>> so >>> popular that when Radio Shack stopped selling them a few years >>> ago, I >> saw >>> some art school students passing each other photocopied bootlegs! >>> Fortunately his books are still in print and you can order them >>> online. >>> " >>> >>> the sensor slab has a cheap but useable experimenter breadboard with >>> enough >>> real estate to build two or three small experiments >>> simultaneously, and >>> mims' sense of idiot glee provokes all sorts of creative misuse of >>> the >>> published experiments. buy a bag of random LEDs for additional >>> fun and >>> experimentation. >>> >>> for example, K. Miltner and i used the slab to create a magnetic >> pendulum >>> "T-oscillator" which used capacitance and light to transform >>> frequency >> and >>> timbre while the pendulum provided 'rhythm'. took about an hour, >>> start >> to >>> finish, using only the parts supplied in the $49.95 kit. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Peter Nyboer >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>> http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ >>>> >>>> well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ >>>> which >>>> is also interesting along the same lines! >>>> >>>> P. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> kristin miltner >> audio professional >> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From weaselw at juno.com Wed Feb 27 16:45:01 2008 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:45:01 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics Message-ID: <20080227.164502.9696.61.weaselw@juno.com> if it makes you feel any better, i can unsubscribe and then resubscribe. ww On Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:37:39 -0800 barry threw writes: > You kidding? I just started reading again. > > b > > On Feb 27, 2008, at 3:48 PM, lx rudis wrote: > > > god we are such geeks. has everyone unsubbed yet? > > > > :D > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, kristin miltner From miltnerunit at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 16:43:33 2008 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:43:33 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: <6A06E93E-47F5-460D-AF67-1CE9E5722FBB@gmail.com> References: <050661D3-9774-4027-A665-DA9B7ED4DB45@slambassador.com> <7272233a0802271115p5fc46e70x5198a26ee5352e59@mail.gmail.com> <7272233a0802271548ra653450w623cdb4c1d57f910@mail.gmail.com> <6A06E93E-47F5-460D-AF67-1CE9E5722FBB@gmail.com> Message-ID: it's much easier to oggle gear than to say anything intelligent about the cool article link Tim Perkis just sent. k On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 4:37 PM, barry threw wrote: > You kidding? I just started reading again. > > b > > On Feb 27, 2008, at 3:48 PM, lx rudis wrote: > > > god we are such geeks. has everyone unsubbed yet? > > > > :D > > > > On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 12:40 PM, kristin miltner > > > > wrote: > > > >> ha! i remember that! I love the spring circuits because they take > >> no time > >> at > >> all. > >> I've translated many a Mims "slab" project to circuitboards. I love > >> that > >> thing. It's been in a box since I moved, I have to go find it. > >> those Forest Mims' projects started the whole thing for me... > >> ...the 'squeakbox' that uses a pencil marks as a resistor when you > >> ran > >> leads > >> up and down it -- resulting in a change in the pitch of the > >> sawtooth wave > >> it > >> generates -- that was a modified Mims project, some of the photocell > >> circuits i've built started from there too. > >> > >> oh boy... the chimera looks like a LOT of fun and a really smart > >> design. > >> Lots of things to play with and small. I might have to try it out... > >> > >> > >> k > >> > >> On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 11:15 AM, lx rudis > >> wrote: > >> > >>> nyboer: > >>>> well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ > >>>> which > >>> > >>> crikey, that IS nice. i'm interested in that forthcoming > >>> sequencer they > >>> hint at. what cool little boxen! > >>> > >>> sigh. gino, was this thread a ploy to provoke me into revealing > >>> Trade > >>> Secrets? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > http://www.radioshack.com/sm-buy-the-electronic-sensor-lab-on-wwwradioshackcom--pi-2102912.html > >>> > >>> ...and as flowerelectronics says so well: > >>> "The single most important author in the world of "popular" > >>> electronics > >> is > >>> certainly Forrest Mims III. His series of "Engineers Mini- > >>> Notebooks" are > >>> so > >>> popular that when Radio Shack stopped selling them a few years > >>> ago, I > >> saw > >>> some art school students passing each other photocopied bootlegs! > >>> Fortunately his books are still in print and you can order them > >>> online. > >>> " > >>> > >>> the sensor slab has a cheap but useable experimenter breadboard with > >>> enough > >>> real estate to build two or three small experiments > >>> simultaneously, and > >>> mims' sense of idiot glee provokes all sorts of creative misuse of > >>> the > >>> published experiments. buy a bag of random LEDs for additional > >>> fun and > >>> experimentation. > >>> > >>> for example, K. Miltner and i used the slab to create a magnetic > >> pendulum > >>> "T-oscillator" which used capacitance and light to transform > >>> frequency > >> and > >>> timbre while the pendulum provided 'rhythm'. took about an hour, > >>> start > >> to > >>> finish, using only the parts supplied in the $49.95 kit. > >>> > >>> On Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 10:28 PM, Peter Nyboer < > pnyboer at slambassador.com > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> http://www.flowerelectronics.com/ > >>>> > >>>> well, I can only respond with http://www.chimera-synthesis.com/ > >>>> which > >>>> is also interesting along the same lines! > >>>> > >>>> P. > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > >>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu > >>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu > >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> kristin miltner > >> audio professional > >> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu > >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > barry threw > Media Art and Technology > > San Francisco, CA > Work: 857-544-3967 > Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com > Web: www.barrythrew.com > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.myspace.com/miltnerunit From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Feb 27 18:08:32 2008 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:08:32 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics Message-ID: Mr. Rudis wrote: god we are such geeks. - speak for yourself. has everyone unsubbed yet? - obviously not. sl From lx.rudis at gmail.com Wed Feb 27 18:40:48 2008 From: lx.rudis at gmail.com (lx rudis) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:40:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7272233a0802271840x1f3e716ak6d0514913ddbe12@mail.gmail.com> now S, accept the calling. your true geekish calling. get a sensorslab. or an sk-1. i've an extra sk-1 lying about here. would you like to start with that? the sensuality of low voltage tickling the balls of your fingers can be positively exquisite. open the case. it struggles briefly under your screwdriver then *pop*...it's secrets now lie bare. it has yielded to you. run your fingers gently across the circuit board, sarah. it wants to be touched, it wants NEW CONNECTIONS. it cries out! touch it. touch it again. remember the patterns, remember the path you take! galvanic skin response, sarah. the erotic possibilities of a bitstream pulsing its way across a rippling pond of silvery traces on a green board, a green which is dark as deep, still water, as dark as a secret. locate a diode, where sensation can suddenly stop. . . . . . . ..then start again. another circuit closes under your gentle caress. innovation without conscious thought. a new place, invented by you and the sk-1. symbiots. unique to you both, this new place. it cannot be shared. yet. and the gentle rhythms begin anew, your flesh registering the call of electrons twittering like small birds nestling in the boughs of a tree. calling to you. begging for an LED, or a switch, a capacitor or possibly even a thumbtack brought out to the sleek grey surface of the instrument. and then, then it is time to mount the switches, standing proud off the control panel. or the jacks, so inviting. a thumbtack head, placed just-so, demanding to be touched, again again again and again! yes, pierce the plastic sarah! introduce new FORM into the perfection of this mass produced device. you give it LIFE, sarah. you make it YOURS, sarah. circuitbending sarah. circuitbending. join us. joinnnn usssssss..... :D On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 6:08 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > Mr. Rudis wrote: > god we are such geeks. > > - speak for yourself. > > has everyone unsubbed yet? > > - obviously not. > > sl > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From poly at omino.com Wed Feb 27 18:53:21 2008 From: poly at omino.com (David Van Brink) Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:53:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Flower ELectronics In-Reply-To: <7272233a0802271840x1f3e716ak6d0514913ddbe12@mail.gmail.com> References: <7272233a0802271840x1f3e716ak6d0514913ddbe12@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: UNSUBSCRIBE!! no... subscribe... no... arrghh... WILMA!!! GET ME MY SOLDERING IRON!!! ------------------------------------------------- david van brink poly at omino.com http://omino.com/pixelblog/ (semi-artsy-technical) http://www.flickr.com/photos/distrakt/ (personal) ------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 27 Feb 2008, lx rudis wrote: > now S, > > accept the calling. your true geekish calling. get a sensorslab. > > or an sk-1. > > i've an extra sk-1 lying about here. > would you like to start with that? > > the sensuality of low voltage tickling the balls of your fingers can be > positively exquisite. open the case. it struggles briefly under your > screwdriver then *pop*...it's secrets now lie bare. it has yielded to you. > > run your fingers gently across the circuit board, sarah. > it wants to be touched, it wants NEW CONNECTIONS. it cries out! > > touch it. touch it again. remember the patterns, remember the path you > take! > > galvanic skin response, sarah. the erotic possibilities of a bitstream > pulsing its way across a rippling pond of silvery traces on a green board, a > green which is dark as deep, still water, as dark as a secret. > > locate a diode, where sensation can suddenly stop. . . . . . > . > > > > > ..then start again. > > another circuit closes under your gentle caress. innovation without > conscious thought. a new place, invented by you and the sk-1. symbiots. > unique to you both, this new place. > > it cannot be shared. yet. > > and the gentle rhythms begin anew, your flesh registering the call of > electrons twittering like small birds nestling in the boughs of a tree. > calling to you. begging for an LED, or a switch, a capacitor or possibly > even a thumbtack brought out to the sleek grey surface of the instrument. > > and then, then it is time to mount the switches, standing proud off the > control panel. or the j