[NewMusic] Flock

[Jon Raskin]

Sound Art, Art, Music (2006) does a good job outlining the issues.  I've used sound, art, sound art, sound organizer, art music etc to say what I'm doing rather than what I'm not doing.  I'm not making blues, jazz, song form, classical, etc. which is the answer to the follow up question.  Venues need categories to book and promote and the ones with money aren't as open things that don't categorize easily.
It was nice to see his review of Semiconductor.  Rova is working with them for an upcoming collaborative project.  More music and Technology together. 
 Jon Raskin



----- Original Message ----
From: kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:13:47 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Flock

recommend reading Douglas Kahn's musings on thIis subject here:
http://www.douglaskahn.com/writings-1.htm

hey thanks,. this is cool....

On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Adam Fong <adam at otherminds.org> wrote:

> On Jun 10, 2008, at 8:42 PM, kristin miltner wrote:
>
> >> find a suitable definition which differentiates music from sound art,
> >
> >
> > i was wondering this same thing. Matt, you care to try out a
> > definition? A
> > really tough and good exercise. I have tried and I don't think I have
> > successfully put the difference into words.
> >
>
>  recommend reading Douglas Kahn's musings on thIis subject here:
> http://www.douglaskahn.com/writings-1.htm
>
> It's the essay "Sound Art, Art, Music". Grumpy, entertaining,
> enlightening, all at once!
>
> -adam
>
>
> > On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 6:50 PM, andrew wilshusen
> > <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> There's an interview with Lennon talking about the Ono/Lennon
> >> album Two
> >> Virgins and explaining that it was basically stuff he'd been doing
> >> for years
> >> but with the Beatles they'd bury it in the mix with other pop
> >> stuff whereas
> >> with that album it wasn't buried.  Personally i'd rather listen to
> >> Two
> >> Virgins than any of the Beatles stuff any day.  the white album is
> >> okay.
> >> I'd conjecture Matt seems to prefer "the weird stuff" buried.  i'd
> >> also like
> >> to challenge a) that he can find a suitable definition which
> >> differentiates
> >> music from sound art, and b) that coming up with new concepts is
> >> fairly
> >> easy.
> >>
> >> andrew
> >>
> >> http://www.andrewwilshusen.com
> >> http://oudevoida.blogspot.com
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> >>
> >>> The word "experimental" evokes that woodshed of ideas mentioned
> >>> earlier,
> >> or
> >>> even an "R&D", but I've always wanted to make "music" rather than
> >>> "sound
> >>> art". Making weird sounds and coming up with new concepts is
> >>> fairly easy -
> >>> it's turning it back into music that's the challenge.
> >>
> >> That said, it's given me a whole new respect for pop music and well
> >> produced
> >> rock bands. If you listen closely, you'll hear all sorts of weird
> >> stuff -
> >> definitely as weird as anything I've done, but it's only about
> >> 1/10th of
> >> the
> >> whole song for some of those folks. (I've been obsessing over
> >> Radiohead
> >> like
> >> a teenager since the beginning of the year, but you can even hear
> >> these
> >> elements in a lot of hip-hop and "classic rock".)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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