[NewMusic] More anti-carbon floop-print poopoganda

Thu May 8 11:16:25 PDT 2008

most americans only want to change things when it is convenient for  
them!

it is not fun to realize how much of our lives is controlled by evil  
coporations and how much of our daily lives contributes to horrible  
things and in many ways, makes life a living hell for others and  
forget about its impact on future generations.

yeah, i have myspace sites and i hate contributing to murdoch but as  
Gino pointed out, i have benefited greatly from being on myspace  
thanks to the connections made and music i have heard.

A radical change in lifestyle is necessary if we care about having  
any planet decades from now, let alone centuries. If that is  
inconvenient for some, well, not much choice but to deal with it. If  
we do not change things that is simply a way of telling others, "fuck  
you, i do not care if my life is making yours difficult" :)
few americans are willing to give up their gas, plastic and meat even  
when they become educated about what is going on.

ok, enough for my rant :)

phil

Philip Gelb
vegetarian chef
shakuhachi player, teacher
phil at philipgelb.com
http://philipgelb.com
http://myspace.com/inthemoodforfood
http://myspace.com/philipgelb

On May 8, 2008, at 11:05 AM, Matt Davignon wrote:

> Uh-oh. It wasn't enough that music making is contributing to global  
> warming.
> Now having a myspace page means that I'm supporting Rupert (fucking)
> Murdoch's homophobic, racist, fascist, corporate military-industrial
> complex?
>
> If someone gives me a ride, and they drive a volkswagen, does that  
> mean I'm
> a nazi supporter?
>
> If you want to encourage global change, it has to be in the range  
> of things
> that average people can and will do. People can change their  
> lightbulbs, use
> more efficient cars and appliances, recycle, drastically reduce the  
> amount
> of plastic bags/styrofoam they use, etc. That stuff is easy, and I  
> think you
> could realistically get a sizeable chunk of Americans to change those
> habits.
>
> But here on the left that's not enough. When you tell people they  
> have to
> drive 20 extra miles to the 'green' grocery, avoid anything that's  
> made of
> plastic or precious metal, live in a cave, wear only hemp, etc,  
> that's when
> most most reasonable people throw up their arms and go back to  
> their SUV's,
> air conditioners and big macs. Sure you might get the leftest 0.5%  
> of people
> to change, but that's not *really* making a big difference, is it?
>
> Matt
>
> On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:12 AM, Michael Henry  
> <mhenry at crypticstudios.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Gino Robair wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> Like all of us on the list, I will continue  being "positive" and
>> "constructive" by creating music-sound-art. However, it's the fact  
>> that
>> "we"
>> have to educate the masses that there are sonic alternatives to  
>> the music
>> equivalent of fast food that makes "us" work harder than ever as  
>> an artist.
>> It's certainly not bitterness. Just trying to save the planet,  
>> mister. And
>> getting angry is somewhat unavoidable during times like these... :-)
>>
>>
>> I hear you Gino. I'm angry too.
>>
>> Warning.....I have a bug up my ass about this....and it is a  
>> lightning bug.
>>
>> I've noticed a significant amount of postings lately on this list  
>> that are
>> essentially about some sort political-musical connection, whether  
>> it be
>> "ecto (sic..."plasmic?") touring" or some other subject.
>>
>> You know...like that need to "educate the masses" about the "evil
>> corporate" influences that are degrading our culture, killing our  
>> art (not
>> to mention lots of people and wildlife), and so on.
>>
>> Well, here is a question I would like to pose, to you folks who  
>> are so
>> musically/politically aware and active:
>>
>> How come so many of you have My-Fucking-Rupert-Murdoch-Space pages  
>> (proudly
>> advertised in your email signatures)?
>>
>> I mean, please explain to me why you put your art up on a site  
>> where the
>> resulting ad revenue enriches one of the most evil fucking  
>> propagandists on
>> the fucking planet. I really would really like to know.....is it just
>> cluelessness, i.e you are unaware of who owns
>> My-Fucking-Rupert-Murdoch-Space.com? Or do you just not care?  
>> Because those
>> are the only possible answers to my question that I can see. If  
>> there are
>> more answers that I am unaware of, I'd certainly like to hear them.
>>
>> I mean, even the Wired piece Gino forwarded, which snidely quips  
>> about
>> Pepsi's corporate sponsorship of this event (which I'm happy to  
>> join in on),
>> has links at the bottom "for previewing the bands on MySpace" as  
>> if somehow
>> that is not the same. Excuse me while I puke.
>>
>> Just take for example, one of San Francisco's own, one of the famous
>> anarcho-punk "politically aware" bands....I quote: " not  
>> interested in
>> having any racist, sexist, fascist or homophobic friends (here on  
>> My-Fucking
>> Rupert-Murdoch-Fox-Nooze-Racist-Sexist-Fascist-Homophobic- 
>> Propaganda-Space.com).
>> If you consider yourself one of these please DO NOT send a friend  
>> request.
>> Also anyone who voted for Bush can just take their Avengers CDs  
>> and... cash
>> them in at the used record store, right now. Everyone has a right  
>> to their
>> beliefs and everyone has a right to choose their friends."
>>
>>
>> http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm? 
>> fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=3127605
>>
>> Well, Penelope and the Avengers. I'm sorry to say this but I think  
>> I know
>> who Rupert-Fucking-Murdoch voted for. I hope he burned his  
>> Avengers CD's
>> after he saw your page.
>>
>> You say, "We Are Not Fascist Pigs"......Oh, puhleeese.
>> Rupert-Fucking-Murdoch is certainly one of the biggest fascist  
>> pigs in
>> history. So why do you want to help enrich one of the biggest  
>> fascist pig
>> bastards on the planet by having a presence on the site he owns?  
>> Or is it OK
>> as long as the fascist pig gives you some of his gruel in return?
>>
>> Another example....A friend of mine recently contacted me. He is  
>> active in
>> Green Party politics, in Colorado. His band has played at many  
>> Green Party
>> events, fundrasers, etc.
>>
>> He calls me up to pick my brain about marketing his band, because  
>> they have
>> a new CD in the can and he says to me, "Well, we really need to  
>> get a web
>> presence....so I suppose a Myspace page would be obligatory."
>>
>> I'll spare you the rest of the conversation. Please use your artistic
>> imagination.
>>
>> I'm really sorry to bring this up in such an angry manner. But I'm  
>> feeling
>> angry tonight. After so many years of bush-shit and associated  
>> propaganda,
>> there are days when I wonder if I am sane, or if it is that the  
>> only "sane"
>> people left are the ones that society labels as "insane." Because  
>> if Bush or
>> Rupert Murdoch is sane, I'm definitely not.
>>
>> So I'd really like someone here to justify or explain to me their
>> My-Fucking-Rupert-Murdoch-Fox-Nooze-Evil-Corporate-Bastard-Space.com
>> presence. Please, oh please enlighten me because the lightning bug  
>> up my ass
>> just flew away, and I have no more light left to read with and I  
>> don't watch
>> TV. I carry a TV-B-Gone with me wherever I go, and despite my age, my
>> trigger finger has a reflex time of less than a nanosecond.
>>
>> And one more thing....I read earlier today that Rupert-Fucking- 
>> Murdoch is
>> getting worried. So someone out there had better post some more  
>> stuff to his
>> site in order to make him happy again:
>>
>>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2008/may/07/rupertmurdoch.usa? 
>> gusrc=rss&feed=worldnews
>>
>> Poopagandaly yours,
>>
>> -MH
>>
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