[NewMusic] We have cookies! (was Poopoganda)
Matt Davignon
mattdavignon at gmail.com
Fri May 9 09:53:52 PDT 2008
Well, the service that places like Myspace offer is basically a simplified
way of having a web presence. The user doesn't need to learn web design,
doesn't need to pay for web hosting, and gets to use really easy 'site
building' tools. The site has advertising because if it didn't, you'd have
to pay for it.
Let's put it this way. If you built your own website from scratch, and
posted your blogs/pet videos/mp3 clips there, would your site pay you
revenue for your content?
Matt
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org>
wrote:
> But the thing with Myspace, and youtube, and the other services and sites
> that define "web 2.0" is that you - the user - the customer, essentially -
> are not making money for these companies by paying money, but essentially
> by
> doing work for free.
>
> Compare it to radio or, something that combines music and socializing - a
> nightclub. The radio station and the nightclub pay for the music - let's
> leave aside the issue of whether the payment reaches the musicians and the
> retarded way that entities like ASCAP calculate royalties - myspace
> doesn't.
> Your standard TV network or cable channel pays for its programming, youtube
> doesn't.
>
> Certainly you - the musician on myspace - benefit from it as well. I think
> the question is how you frame the choice to have a myspace page. Is it a
> similar type of choice as what brand of beverage to consume or whether to
> subscribe to a particular magazine, newspaper, or cell phone service ... Or
> is it closer to choosing whether to have a phone. Essentially, is myspace
> one of those monopolies like the garbage company or the electric company
> that you pretty much are stuck dealing with for the sake of efficiency
> and/or normative behavior?
>
> >From the perspective of a venue proprietor - I feel the same way about
> having a myspace page as I did about listing events in the weeklies owned
> by
> New Times - (now Village Voice media, and the East Bay Express is no longer
> owned by them, but their music coverage got crappier when they went
> independent - sigh.) I wasn't going to pay to take out ads in said papers,
> but, yes, I'd send them listing info, and they'd list my events, and those
> listings do contribute to their revenue and allow them to continue building
> their brand of asshole-libertarian journalism and eliminating jobs for
> local
> writers and driving local papers out of business.
>
> But I agree with Matt Goodheart - I'm just wondering when the advertising
> revenue is going to shrink and waiting to see what the new "business model"
> is.
>
> sl
>
> Phillip postulated:
> And I would remind you: I'M NOT PAYING FOR IT. I'm not giving Murdoch a
> cent to have a MS page. They minute they charge to be on it, I'm gone.
>
>
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