[NewMusic] Bay tape loop improv shows

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Bring back video music night with laptops and puppies, I'm totally in!

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> my 2 cents: I actually enjoy trying to curate around a technique or
> device, because while it limits the materials used, it does not limit
> anyone conceptually. so (hopefully) you'd get 7 or 8 different
> treatments of the same device or method, producing a wide variety of
> music. You get a theme, or a common thread, without the rigidity of
> deciding that your theme is a certain type of music.
>
> But that's only if the technique or device produces a wide range of
> concepts. it's better with more general categories like 'strings' or
> 'animal sounds' but if you narrow it down to 'double bass pedal
> festival' or 'ebow' or 'ableton live' you get a lot of the same music
> over and over. It's an interesting problem to try to solve.
>
> k
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> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote:
>> Okay, I'll say a thing or two about it, as well. It strikes me as a weird,
>> almost silly concept for a festival ... Maybe back in the 70s/80s when it
>> was more novel, and the technology was relatively novel, I wouldn't be
>> stifling giggles of embarrassment at the name. I'd be dishonest to say the
>> giggles are totally unrelated to words that rhyme with "loop."
>>
>> I mean, it just strikes me as similar to a theoretical "double bass pedal
>> festival" or "double paradiddle festival" or "circular breathing festival"
>> ... I don't mean to denigrate the participants or any good music that comes
>> out of it, but to focus on technique and/or technology that isn't totally
>> new or rare just doesn't seem to be a compelling organizing principle to me.
>>
>> There's a point where things are novel and thus prompts a "gee whiz" factor
>> or a coming together of "fringe elements," but most things eventually
>> trickle down to the general populace and lose those factors, and then, in
>> terms of organizing and "raisons d'etre" it's sometimes time to move on.
>>
>> In the earlier part of this decade, I used to curate a series of
>> performances involving music and projected media. At the time, it was
>> relatively uncommon, but after everyone and their puppy got laptops, dvd
>> players, digital editing software, and cheap projectors, it became all too
>> common, and I became less interested in showcasing it on that basis.
>>
>> I guess I've just been thinking a lot about related issues in terms of my
>> own work, as well as in the arts community as a whole. When is it time to
>> call it done and move on? When one's niche is no longer one's niche, what do
>> you do, or rather, what do you do differently in terms of
>> identifying/classifying/categorizing what you do to others?  This applies to
>> organizations, events, as well as artists.
>>
>> Honestly, this isn't meant just to take a jab at the "looping festival," but
>> to use it as a way of raising questions about general issues of purpose.
>>
>> sl
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>> Matt d wrote:
>> Well, I'll say a thing or two about it. I enjoy participating in this
>> festival each year (that is the y2k8 looping festival in santa cruz
>> this weekend.) It's a completely different set of "creative music"
>> than what we have up here in the bay area. The festival theme is
>> "looping", which simply means all the artists use DL-4's or some other
>> box that records and feeds back their live instrumental sounds in the
>> form of loops.
>>
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