[NewMusic] 3rd party music

[Phillip Greenlief]

i'm with you ingalls. i was just spouting off on another list of how disappointed i was with billy bang's show last week (what was i thinking, though...really?). it seems like no one knows how to be themselves anymore, and this whole trotting out of old cliches (from Obama and McCain) seems to have produced an epidemic of lying assholes with no imagination whatsoever.

and yeah, we had a nice turnout for the first night of mockracy, but the second night was abyssmal. the crowd on the first night was mostly djll's friends, and significant others of the members of the ensemble. if we eliminated those people both nights would have been an embarrassment, in terms of audience turn out. 

and djll put a lot of work into that show, and it deserved to have an audience. 

whatever, no one seems to give a fuck about art anymore. i realize there are "other things" to think about these days (like how to eliminate palin permanently, or how to deal with neo-nazi's planning to eliminate obama). 

jeeze, i'm getting old and sounding even older.

laters,
pg


--- On Tue, 10/28/08, Matt Ingalls <ingalls at mills.edu> wrote:

> From: Matt Ingalls <ingalls at mills.edu>
> Subject: [NewMusic] 3rd party music
> To: "newmusic at music.mills.edu" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Date: Tuesday, October 28, 2008, 12:52 PM
> surprised no politics talk here lately
>   maybe everyone is obsessed elsewhere..
> 
> also surprised at dismal turnout for Djll's Mockracy
> farce last week.  at end of last night Djll (spontaneously?)
> got group to chant "ob-a-ma" to the final blowout
> tune.. and why not "mc-kin-ney"?  somehow the lack
> of audience (and i am predicting for all of us the next year
> or so) and complete dismissal of 3rd party candidates this
> election seems related -- wish i could articulate - but
> something like depression about the state = not wanting risk
> of thought/effort?
> 
> -m
> 
> from http://www.acgreens.org/VG/GPAC-VG-1108.pdf
> 
> This year in 2008—as in 2004—our mainstream
> choices are again so limited that we are not even allowed
> to vote against war if we wish to choose between one of
> the two corporate-funded candidates.  While John McCain
> sees the war in Iraq as “necessary and just,” Obama’s
> plan
> is to simply shift troops from Iraq to Afghanistan (“the
> good war”).  And with the addition of Joe Biden to the
> Obama ticket, Biden’s favored strategy of partitioning
> Iraq
> into three states—which makes control of the oil more
> practical for the US—has resurfaced.  Meanwhile, what
> many average Americans want (for the troops to come
> home, and for Bush/Cheney to be impeached) is, they are
> told, somehow impossible.
> This year, as in 2004, thanks to the archaic electoral
> system in the US – involving the winner-take-all system
> and the undemocratic electoral college (see fairvote.
> org) – California Greens have a special role to play. Un-
> like many other Greens in the nation, California Greens
> have the luxury of the highly likely scenario that Obama
> will beat McCain in California in November. Given that
> lead, California voters can comfortably choose to vote
> for someone they respect—rather than voting simply out
> of fear or disgust, without fearing they will automatically
> install McCain/Palin.
> The Alameda County Green Party has responded
> to this position by endorsing two presidential candidate
> campaigns, rather than just one. This year, at the Green
> Party National Convention (held in Chicago, Illinois),
> Cynthia McKinney and Rosa Clemente were chosen as
> the presidential and vice-presidential candidates for the
> Green Party.
> However, in California, Ralph Nader and his vice-
> presidential choice, Matt Gonzalez (running as Peace and
> Freedom Party candidates), continue to be highly popular
> choices for Green voters. Both of these campaigns, McK-
> inney/Clemente and Nader/Gonzalez, strongly embrace
> Green positions and both of these campaigns enjoy the
> support of many local Greens.
> When faced with this issue of division in California,
> the Alameda County Green Party chose to look to our
> Green values – opposing a winner-take-all system, sup-
> porting a proportional representation system – and
> endorse
> both campaigns. We feel that each has unique and valu-
> able ideas to contribute which we see as an opportunity to
> spread our support. For 2008, the Green Party of Alameda
> County can now say we endorse multiple viable candidates
> who embrace our values, two significant campaigns will-
> ing to take on the daunting task of standing up to the most
> powerful political corporate-funded machine, perhaps, in
> the history of the world, in a time of war. We feel this
> best
> represents our county and our party.
> 
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