From DAMON at BALANCEPOINTACOUSTICS.COM  Fri Apr  3 10:05:30 2009
From: DAMON at BALANCEPOINTACOUSTICS.COM (Damon Smith)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 10:05:30 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Pauline's Ubu picks
Message-ID: <E1C9FE59-F95D-442B-BFD2-65A6391E2C59@BALANCEPOINTACOUSTICS.COM>

http://www.ubu.com/

Damon Smith

http://www.balancepointacoustics.com
http://myspace.com/smithdamon
New solo project:
http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo





From 21grand at 21grand.org  Fri Apr  3 15:24:26 2009
From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 15:24:26 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Fred at Mills on Sunday
Message-ID: <C5FBDAAA.2A7C8%21grand@21grand.org>

Does anyone know if you have to get advance tickets to the Fred Frith
concert at Mills on Sunday? Is it sold out already, etc.?

sl




From mylesaudio at aol.com  Fri Apr  3 16:58:29 2009
From: mylesaudio at aol.com (mylesaudio at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:58:29 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] Fred at Mills on Sunday
In-Reply-To: <C5FBDAAA.2A7C8%21grand@21grand.org>
References: <C5FBDAAA.2A7C8%21grand@21grand.org>
Message-ID: <8CB82CF388A5BBA-F44-1D0F@WEBMAIL-MZ14.sysops.aol.com>

It was sold out when I checked about a week ago. On the Mills website 
it said some tix would probably be available at the door the day of the 
show.
Myles


-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org>
To: Banewmus List <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 3:24 pm
Subject: [NewMusic] Fred at Mills on Sunday






Does anyone know if you have to get advance tickets to the Fred Frith
concert at Mills on Sunday? Is it sold out already, etc.?

sl



_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic






From michaelz at zoka.com  Mon Apr  6 10:21:28 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 10:21:28 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Free Cage download at iTunes Store
Message-ID: <p06240890c5ffe9eee7dc@[192.168.0.2]>

>This week's free Discovery Download is the first of the three 
>movements, recorded at London's historic Henry Wood Hall. Listen 
>carefully, and you can hear traffic outside, creaking floorboards 
>and a clock ticking somewhere in the building. If you like it, you 
>can download the remainder of the album here and check out some of 
>John Cage's louder works here." -- iTunes Store

<http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=310007237>

From jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  8 12:37:59 2009
From: jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com (Jacob Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 12:37:59 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Email for Marielle Jakobsons?
Message-ID: <904091.73755.qm@web58006.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


Does anyone have an email for Marielle Jakobons?

If so, please forward off list.

Thanks!
Jacob

Jacob Lindsay
www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
www.sojamartialarts.com


      

From jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com  Wed Apr  8 13:13:52 2009
From: jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com (Jacob Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 2009 13:13:52 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Email for Marielle Jakobsons?
In-Reply-To: <904091.73755.qm@web58006.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <629903.15980.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


Got it.  Thanks!

Jacob Lindsay
www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
www.sojamartialarts.com


--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Jacob Lindsay <jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com> wrote:

> From: Jacob Lindsay <jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Email for Marielle Jakobsons?
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 12:37 PM
> Does anyone have an email for Marielle Jakobons?
> 
> If so, please forward off list.
> 
> Thanks!
> Jacob
> 
> Jacob Lindsay
> www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
> www.sojamartialarts.com
> 
> 
>       
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


      

From electric.tokyo at gmail.com  Fri Apr 10 11:16:15 2009
From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 2009 11:16:15 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Bay Area Hip-Hop Booking/Venues, etc?
Message-ID: <d3165c060904101116j62cb94canbf9751dd49fc88be@mail.gmail.com>

For those that are idiomatic enough to go out on a limb and admit that
they appreciate the more hyphy aspects of the Bay from time to time, I
got a question for ya:

Does anyone know of anyone or any place that might cater to booking or
hosting acts of the more experimental hip-hop/art hop, abstract beat
driven introspective poetry-esque delineation?

Curious for two reasons:

1.) An act from LA with some mutual friends asked me to help them out
with a show in the bay - but I'll unfortunately be out of town when
they're around so can't personally hook something up myself - hence
this cleverly-veiled public decree for a little help.

and

2.) In a cultural melting pot as thick as this, you'd think there
would be at least some hint of the tendrils of the various
hyphy-influenced indie crowds intertwining... it has to be happening
somewhere - is it that I'm just such a hermit these days that I can't
hear it from under my rock?

talk to me, people.

t.

From jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 15 11:51:45 2009
From: jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com (Jacob Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:51:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Teacher Recommendations
Message-ID: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>


Can anyone recommend a good piano teacher in the East Bay for an adult beginning student looking for lessons in technique, classical, jazz, reading, theory, etc?

Jacob Lindsay
www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
www.sojamartialarts.com


      

From miltnerunit at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 11:58:42 2009
From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:58:42 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Teacher Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <ef1ad92c0904151158w373d185cl3e7fd97a8d90295a@mail.gmail.com>

How about Eric Glick-Rieman? I'm pretty sure he's teaching these days,

?
ooglick at yahoo.com

k


On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jacob Lindsay
<jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> Can anyone recommend a good piano teacher in the East Bay for an adult
> beginning student looking for lessons in technique, classical, jazz,
> reading, theory, etc?
>
> Jacob Lindsay
> www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
> www.sojamartialarts.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
kristin miltner
audio professional
www.kristinmiltner.net
www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html

From jzitt at metatronpress.com  Wed Apr 15 12:06:25 2009
From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 15:06:25 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Teacher Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
References: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <cf60725f0904151206s4134c0b0rbcb96b13664a1d40@mail.gmail.com>

I recommend our own Katherine Setar.

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jacob Lindsay
<jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Can anyone recommend a good piano teacher in the East Bay for an adult beginning student looking for lessons in technique, classical, jazz, reading, theory, etc?
>
> Jacob Lindsay
> www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
> www.sojamartialarts.com
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com

From matt at sfsound.org  Wed Apr 15 12:12:20 2009
From: matt at sfsound.org (matt)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:12:20 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Teacher Recommendations
In-Reply-To: <cf60725f0904151206s4134c0b0rbcb96b13664a1d40@mail.gmail.com>
References: <392379.39185.qm@web58008.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<cf60725f0904151206s4134c0b0rbcb96b13664a1d40@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BEBF2D8-8B35-416C-A78D-6539FC0EB77F@sfsound.org>

hadley mccarroll

http://mirageensemble.com/hadley.html


On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote:

> I recommend our own Katherine Setar.
>
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Jacob Lindsay
> <jacobmakesnoise at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> Can anyone recommend a good piano teacher in the East Bay for an  
>> adult beginning student looking for lessons in technique,  
>> classical, jazz, reading, theory, etc?
>>
>> Jacob Lindsay
>> www.bayimproviser.com/jacoblindsay
>> www.sojamartialarts.com
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic



m@



From suki at zoka.com  Wed Apr 15 12:40:45 2009
From: suki at zoka.com (Suki O'Kane)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 11:40:45 -0800
Subject: [NewMusic] ebexpress coverage of tues-uptown mon-hootenanny
Message-ID: <20090415194045.2016.qmail@zoka.com>

http://www.eastbayexpress.com/music/surface_noise/Content?oid=963005


From henrykuntz at comcast.net  Wed Apr 15 16:28:36 2009
From: henrykuntz at comcast.net (Henry Kuntz)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 16:28:36 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Report from Bali (Updated)
Message-ID: <001501c9be21$e69da8a0$b3d8f9e0$@net>

My "Report from Bali 2003" has been updated April 2009 with new information,
photos, & links. Based on what I experienced, there is some discussion of
various implications for music improvisation. 

You can find the report on my website here:

http://henrykuntz.free-jazz.net/

Also, now available:

"Whirling Sun Visions" (Humming Bird cdr 1)

Click icon for info &  sound clips.

 


From djcypod at gmail.com  Wed Apr 15 20:47:07 2009
From: djcypod at gmail.com (b)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:47:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Youtube Symphony
Message-ID: <fc5507fa0904152047q4373ec32n9d83147767af544d@mail.gmail.com>

"The Internet Symphony" Global Mash Up:
http://www.youtube.com/symphony

From setar at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 15 21:24:05 2009
From: setar at pacbell.net (Katherine Setar)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:24:05 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Piano Teachers
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1239854404.25724.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1239854404.25724.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <49E6B2E5.5050709@pacbell.net>

Thanks for the plug, Joe Zitt.

I'm a member of the Music Teacher's Association of California, which 
recommends teachers from their database, based upon the distance from 
your home:

http://www.mtac.org/info/findteacher.php

Members of the MTAC are required to have a minimum Bachelor's degree in 
piano.  Students who follow the MTAC curriculum are given exercises in 
technique (scales, chords, cadences, etc,) ear training (recognizing 
major/minor;  intervals, etc.), sight reading, music fundamentals and 
tonal harmony, and repertoire--mostly classical, but a little jazz is 
available, too).  Also, the MTAC has an optional curriculum in free 
improvisation and easy jazz improvisation (mostly blues at the early 
grades)!  The organization also offers opportunities for public 
performance in the form of student recitals.  They even offer 
scholarships to people interested in becoming piano teachers.

Best wishes,

Katherine Setar
newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:
 1. Piano Teacher Recommendations (Jacob Lindsay)
>
> Can anyone recommend a good piano teacher in the East Bay for an adult beginning student looking for lessons in technique, classical, jazz, reading, theory, etc?

On Apr 15, 2009, at 12:06 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote:

>  I recommend our own Katherine Setar.




From gino at rastascan.com  Wed Apr 15 23:00:06 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:00:06 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Who's booking 1510?
Message-ID: <C60C1776.4B2%gino@rastascan.com>

Can someone point me towards the main booking person for the 1510 space in
Oakland these days?
Thanks!
ginorobair


From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Wed Apr 15 23:13:47 2009
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:13:47 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Who's booking 1510?
In-Reply-To: <C60C1776.4B2%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <951472.1024.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I think it's Scott Looney. Was, and still is...
Are you back in town Gino?
PG


--- On Wed, 4/15/09, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:

> From: Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Who's booking 1510?
> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
> Date: Wednesday, April 15, 2009, 11:00 PM
> Can someone point me towards the main booking person for the
> 1510 space in
> Oakland these days?
> Thanks!
> ginorobair
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

From dmonypeny at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 16 11:09:28 2009
From: dmonypeny at hotmail.com (Derek Monypeny)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 18:09:28 +0000
Subject: [NewMusic] Fun with the Tone Matrix
Message-ID: <SNT103-W59B280098E0FA107C2B588BC7A0@phx.gbl>


http://lab.andre-michelle.com/swf/fl10/ToneMatrix.swf

Click on the individual boxes to generate tones.

You can also come up with a set of numbered coordinates to make patterns on it.  Here's a great one that a friend did:

130420,9680,120834,16,130544,74768,66564,496,130384,2,130288,66820,240,130050,8688,130388

Copy this entire string of numbers and then right-click over the matrix and paste them in.  Good times.

-Derek
_________________________________________________________________
Windows Live?: Keep your life in sync.
http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_042009

From michaelz at zoka.com  Mon Apr 20 10:15:07 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 10:15:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF
In-Reply-To: <84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
References: <c70e517b0902041424y7b1303f1v29a8208a758a9599@mail.gmail.com>
	<84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
Message-ID: <p0624085bc6125da3fb27@[192.168.0.2]>

On 2/4/09, wobbly at detritus.net wrote:

>w/ Erika Anderson, opening!  that's congratulations
>
>I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004.  I was guardedly skeptical at
>the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end.  Just
>tell me where I can buy tickets.

It was "sold out" as of last week, but Goldenvoice released some 
additional tickets:

<http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C0042450FBE65D7>

They will probably go fast. . .

MZ

--------------michaelz at zoka.com---
             Michael Zelner
---Oakland CA USA------------------

From michaelz at zoka.com  Mon Apr 20 18:20:54 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 18:20:54 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Bay Area composers snubbed again
Message-ID: <p06240863c612cecf8123@[192.168.0.2]>

>2009 Pulitzer Prizewinners
>Announced at 3:00 p.m., Monday, April 20, 2009 at Columbia University
>
>Music - Double Sextet by Steve Reich, premiered March 26, 2008 in 
>Richmond, VA (Boosey & Hawkes)

<http://www.pulitzer.org/node/7887>


>2009 Nominated Finalists:
>
>Music
>     7 Etudes for Solo Piano by Don Byron (nottuskegeelike music/BMI)
>     A deft set of studies that display rhythmic inventiveness and 
>irresistible energy, charm and wit.
>
>     Brion by Harold Meltzer (Urban Scrawl Music Company)
>     A sonic portrait of a cemetery in northern Italy painted with 
>the touch of a watercolorist and marked by an episodic structure and 
>vivid playfulness that offer a graceful, sensual and contemplative 
>experience.

<http://www.pulitzer.org/finalists/2009>



From td at pixar.com  Tue Apr 21 09:03:17 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2009 09:03:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF
In-Reply-To: <p0624085bc6125da3fb27@[192.168.0.2]>
References: <c70e517b0902041424y7b1303f1v29a8208a758a9599@mail.gmail.com>
	<84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
	<p0624085bc6125da3fb27@[192.168.0.2]>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0904210901590.11679@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>

On Mon, 20 Apr 2009, Michael Zelner wrote:

> On 2/4/09, wobbly at detritus.net wrote:
> 
> >w/ Erika Anderson, opening!  that's congratulations
> >
> >I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004.  I was guardedly skeptical at
> >the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end.  Just
> >tell me where I can buy tickets.
> 
> It was "sold out" as of last week, but Goldenvoice released some 
> additional tickets:
> 
> <http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1C0042450FBE65D7>
> 
> They will probably go fast. . .

I have a friend who has a spare ticket (as of yesterday.)
Email me for his email address...

-- 
Tom Duff.  Probably does everything except what you want it to do.

From tbickley at metatronpress.com  Wed Apr 22 11:39:39 2009
From: tbickley at metatronpress.com (Tom Bickley)
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:39:39 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] perform with the Cardew Choir?
Message-ID: <71E919EE-1CF9-4E8C-BA88-EF1C7FB780A2@metatronpress.com>

Greetings BA-NewMus Comrades,

I'm writing seeking a few women and men to perform with the Cornelius  
Cardew Choir on Sunday 17 May 2009 at 2 pm at San Francisco Public  
Library's Koret Auditorium. We're doing three pieces that day:  
Pauline Oliveros' Windhorse, Sarah Rose Stile's Three Choirs, a  
Conductor, and a Soundbank, and the first performance of English  
composer Sam Richard's About Time. We need people to sing, though  
none of these pieces require traditional vocal training. Being able  
to match pitch is real help in what we're doing. If you have the good  
sense of phrasing and listening to be active in the improv scene,  
you'll have good skills for the repertory we do, and we'd love to  
have you.

Most of you already know the our esteemed colleagues Pauline and  
Sarah. Their work is really strong and fun to rehearse and perform.  
Most of you probably don't know Sam Richards. He knew Cornelius  
Cardew and Sam's compositions show influences there. "About Time" is  
a work lasting approx 40 minutes. During that time we sing texts from  
the Peasant's Revolt in England in the 14th century, the Digger's  
Tracts from the 17th century, and other revolutionary voices, crumple  
paper, blow on bottles, use small percussion instruments, sing a  
melody, listen and sing pitches along with various drones, etc. See  
http://www.samrichards.org.uk/

In addition to the 17 May performance, we're performing with  
trombonist/composer Stuart Dempster ahd his spouse Renko (aka visual  
artist Suiren) at Meridian Gallery in SF on Wed. 13 May. That  
involves a rehearsal that evening at 6:30 for the performance at  
7:30. We're happy to have you with us for that as well, but you can  
do the 17th without doing the 13th.

The Cardew Choir is a volunteer group and none of us receive  
compensation for participating. Maybe that will change after the  
complete collapse of capitalism?

We rehearse from 7-9 pm on the following dates in Berkeley, near the  
Ashby BART.

Thu 23 April
Thur 30 April

Sat 2 May rehearsal AND Mayday party, this doesn't have to end at 9 pm

Mon 4 May
Wed 6 May

Performance Wed 13 May 7:30 pm Meridian Gallery with Stuart and Renko  
Dempster

Fri 15 May

Performance Sun 17 May 2 pm Koret Auditorium, San Francisco Public  
Library, downtown SF (call time 1 pm).

Please contact me off list if you are interested.  
tbickley at metatronpress.com Thanks very much! Pax, -Tom

---------------
Tom Bickley, tbickley at metatronpress.com
http://www.metatronpress.com/artists/tbickley/
http://www.myspace.com/tbickley

"If I can't dance, I don't want to be part of your revolution." -Emma  
Goldman



From michaelz at zoka.com  Thu Apr 23 11:48:04 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 11:48:04 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] The Jazz Wars are over. Now what?
Message-ID: <p06240896c61667c0578e@[192.168.0.2]>

>all about jazz
>Published: April 22, 2009
>By Eric Benson
>
>Icons Among Us: Jazz in the Present Tense
>World Premiere
>The Allen Room at Jazz at Lincoln Center
>New York, NY
>April 15, 2009
>
>The Jazz Wars are over. Now what? A new documentary asks.

Full story:
<http://www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php?id=32661>

More info:
<http://www.iconsamongus.com/>

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 14:14:24 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:14:24 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Larnie the landlord
Message-ID: <c70e517b0904231414v23c002c7g3101661d7eb9c404@mail.gmail.com>

Larnie Fox has an in-law unit for rent at his Glen Park home:
http://crankensemble.com/inlaw/
$975 rent, $1200 deposit, + 1/4 PG&E

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Thu Apr 23 14:17:01 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 14:17:01 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Newmusic "rigs" on youtube
Message-ID: <c70e517b0904231417t72e5876dycb603e18a29e6873@mail.gmail.com>

The first videos are up for my Youtube project!

http://www.youtube.com/user/RibosomeMatt

So far, it's just CJ Borosque and myself. I'm shooting on with Tom
Nunn this weekend.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

From gino at rastascan.com  Fri Apr 24 08:15:07 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:15:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
Message-ID: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>

The fundamentals of traditional jazz drumming are encapsulated in this
challenging video.
http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094


From gino at rastascan.com  Fri Apr 24 08:23:51 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:23:51 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
Message-ID: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>

It only improves it....
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1240533565


From miltnerunit at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 09:12:55 2009
From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:12:55 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>

HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.

k

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:

> It only improves it....
> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1240533565
>
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From highhorse at mhorse.com  Fri Apr 24 09:24:55 2009
From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:24:55 -0500
Subject: [NewMusic] Gig pardners
In-Reply-To: <SNT103-W59B280098E0FA107C2B588BC7A0@phx.gbl>
References: <SNT103-W59B280098E0FA107C2B588BC7A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <49F1E7D7.2090009@mhorse.com>

Though this may arguably be sausage-worthy, thought I'd check in here to 
see if there's anyone who might be interested in playing with me at 
Bluesix in early June. This gig I'm doing inside music, nylon-string 
guitar compositions/tunes that are largely diatonic (ack!). I'm looking 
for a similarly acoustic performer(s), doing more-or-less composed stuff 
as compared to complete improv. Beyond that, no limits apply.

Interested folks or those w/suggestions, contact me offlist pleese. 
(charcutiers can flay me in public).

tx,

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 09:45:33 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:45:33 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Gig pardners
In-Reply-To: <49F1E7D7.2090009@mhorse.com>
References: <SNT103-W59B280098E0FA107C2B588BC7A0@phx.gbl>
	<49F1E7D7.2090009@mhorse.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40904240945l68db68a3l1d564e9542e9f49e@mail.gmail.com>

That wasn't a sausage.
More like a dangling diatonic carrot!
:)
P.

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse at mhorse.com> wrote:

> Though this may arguably be sausage-worthy, thought I'd check in here to
> see if there's anyone who might be interested in playing with me at
> Bluesix in early June. This gig I'm doing inside music, nylon-string
> guitar compositions/tunes that are largely diatonic (ack!). I'm looking
> for a similarly acoustic performer(s), doing more-or-less composed stuff
> as compared to complete improv. Beyond that, no limits apply.
>
> Interested folks or those w/suggestions, contact me offlist pleese.
> (charcutiers can flay me in public).
>
> tx,
>
> Daryl Shawn
> www.swanwelder.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From michaelz at zoka.com  Fri Apr 24 10:03:24 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:03:24 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Newmusic "rigs" on youtube
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0904231417t72e5876dycb603e18a29e6873@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c70e517b0904231417t72e5876dycb603e18a29e6873@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p062408a7c617a082a42e@[192.168.0.2]>

On 4/23/09, Matt Davignon wrote:

>The first videos are up for my Youtube project!
>
>http://www.youtube.com/user/RibosomeMatt


Good stuff, Matt.

One question: how do you keep your pedals from sliding off the wall?

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euFSrxHUtA>

MZ


--------------michaelz at zoka.com---
             Michael Zelner
---Oakland CA USA------------------

From letucepry at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 10:49:36 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:49:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

That tracktor was WAY wankin it...show-off...




________________________________
From: Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:15:07 AM
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)

The fundamentals of traditional jazz drumming are encapsulated in this
challenging video.
http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094

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From liberatednsf at yahoo.com  Fri Apr 24 14:37:51 2009
From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
	<723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <778363.77359.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


I have an old friend that still chides me for once blurting out, "Listen to your windshield wipers.? They swing way hard!"
?Andrew


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com 



----- Original Message ----
From: Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:49:36 AM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)

That tracktor was WAY wankin it...show-off...




________________________________
From: Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>
To: newmusic at music.mills.edu
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 11:15:07 AM
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)

The fundamentals of traditional jazz drumming are encapsulated in this
challenging video.
http://fschnell.net/WordPress/?p=1094

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From highhorse at mhorse.com  Fri Apr 24 14:43:22 2009
From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 16:43:22 -0500
Subject: [NewMusic] Gig pardners
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40904240945l68db68a3l1d564e9542e9f49e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <SNT103-W59B280098E0FA107C2B588BC7A0@phx.gbl>	<49F1E7D7.2090009@mhorse.com>
	<2eb068d40904240945l68db68a3l1d564e9542e9f49e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <49F2327A.1000900@mhorse.com>

chuffed! I can bear tonal-root-vegetable-of-the-day MUCH better than 
lips'n'arseholes.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com


> That wasn't a sausage.
> More like a dangling diatonic carrot!
> :)
> P.
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Daryl Shawn <highhorse at mhorse.com> wrote:
>
>   
>> Though this may arguably be sausage-worthy, thought I'd check in here to
>> see if there's anyone who might be interested in playing with me at
>> Bluesix in early June. This gig I'm doing inside music, nylon-string
>> guitar compositions/tunes that are largely diatonic (ack!). I'm looking
>> for a similarly acoustic performer(s), doing more-or-less composed stuff
>> as compared to complete improv. Beyond that, no limits apply.
>>
>> Interested folks or those w/suggestions, contact me offlist pleese.
>> (charcutiers can flay me in public).
>>
>> tx,
>>
>> Daryl Shawn
>> www.swanwelder.com


From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Fri Apr 24 15:16:10 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 15:16:10 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Newmusic "rigs" on youtube
In-Reply-To: <p062408a7c617a082a42e@192.168.0.2>
References: <c70e517b0904231417t72e5876dycb603e18a29e6873@mail.gmail.com>
	<p062408a7c617a082a42e@192.168.0.2>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0904241516nf5d7e0erb35c230e06d81d6f@mail.gmail.com>

Magnets!

Michael was all:

> Good stuff, Matt.
>
> One question: how do you keep your pedals from sliding off the wall?
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7euFSrxHUtA>
>
> MZ

From dmonypeny at hotmail.com  Fri Apr 24 21:25:40 2009
From: dmonypeny at hotmail.com (Derek Monypeny)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 04:25:40 +0000
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1240632004.26642.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1240632004.26642.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <SNT103-W3E3D6D08B940E7A0AC94CBC730@phx.gbl>


Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 14:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <778363.77359.qm at web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
 
 
I have an old friend that still chides me for once blurting out, 
"Listen to your windshield wipers.? They swing way hard!"
?Andrew
Beefheart came up with the rhythm for the song "Bat Chain Puller" from windshield wipers.


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From td at pixar.com  Sat Apr 25 10:08:35 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:08:35 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <778363.77359.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
	<723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<778363.77359.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0904251004550.21730@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, andrew wilshusen wrote:

> I have an old friend that still chides me for once blurting out, "Listen
> to your windshield wipers.? They swing way hard!"

When I was a kid the wipers on Toronto's buses ran on two separate motors,
invariably at different speeds.  Polyrhythms!  I loved riding the bus on
rainy days.

-- 
Tom Duff.  Just a minute, I think I've got one in the car.

From liberatednsf at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 25 10:37:36 2009
From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 10:37:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0904251004550.21730@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
References: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
	<723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<778363.77359.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0904251004550.21730@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
Message-ID: <593899.85613.qm@web30601.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


----- Original Message ----
>From: Tom Duff:

>When I was a kid the wipers on Toronto's buses ran on two separate motors,
>invariably at different speeds.? Polyrhythms!? I loved riding the bus on
>rainy days.

yep,?polyrhythmic wipers in iowa, too.??i spent my sunny bus rides absorbing the rhythms of the fenceposts and cornfields as they went by the bus window, realizing that you can make time speed up and slow down depending on how and where you focus your gaze.? 

watching and listening to?waterfalls is an encyclopedia of time/space/sound.

andrew??
?


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com 


      

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 25 11:05:39 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 18:05:39 +0000
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
Message-ID: <73696325-1240682626-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1611889884-@bxe1205.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

The sounds of frozen waterfalls thawing still reverberate in my ears.
------Original Message------
From: andrew wilshusen
Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
Sent: Apr 25, 2009 10:37 AM


----- Original Message ----
>From: Tom Duff:

>When I was a kid the wipers on Toronto's buses ran on two separate motors,
>invariably at different speeds.? Polyrhythms!? I loved riding the bus on
>rainy days.

yep,?polyrhythmic wipers in iowa, too.??i spent my sunny bus rides absorbing the rhythms of the fenceposts and cornfields as they went by the bus window, realizing that you can make time speed up and slow down depending on how and where you focus your gaze.?

watching and listening to?waterfalls is an encyclopedia of time/space/sound.

andrew??
?


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com



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From djll at sonic.net  Sat Apr 25 11:06:11 2009
From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:06:11 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Gig pardners
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1240632004.26642.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1240632004.26642.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <14893CF4-F0E4-4FD9-AC1F-28B53C0E4959@sonic.net>

Did you say pig gardeners?

td

On Apr 24, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:

>
>
> Though this may arguably be sausage-worthy
>


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From letucepry at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 25 11:25:30 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 11:25:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0904251004550.21730@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
References: <C617258B.4D3%gino@rastascan.com>
	<723557.16133.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<778363.77359.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.58.0904251004550.21730@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
Message-ID: <204794.40839.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Hilarious! I was thinking almost the EXACT SAME THING, only not Toronto...




________________________________
From: Tom Duff <td at pixar.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:08:35 AM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Jazz drumming (in a nutshell)

On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, andrew wilshusen wrote:

> I have an old friend that still chides me for once blurting out, "Listen
> to your windshield wipers.? They swing way hard!"

When I was a kid the wipers on Toronto's buses ran on two separate motors,
invariably at different speeds.? Polyrhythms!? I loved riding the bus on
rainy days.

--
Tom Duff.? Just a minute, I think I've got one in the car.
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

From electric.tokyo at gmail.com  Sat Apr 25 19:02:39 2009
From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:02:39 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
	<ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <d3165c060904251902v439f9b91t53b970d2e33f8df5@mail.gmail.com>

and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
tossed out to the masses at large:

Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
preset of the program...

obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
wait, here's one now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6fVdAFGSI&feature=related

...long live local news banter.

t.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
>
> k
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
>> It only improves it....
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1240533565
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> kristin miltner
> audio professional
> www.kristinmiltner.net
> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
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>

From liberatednsf at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 25 20:17:12 2009
From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen)
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 20:17:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <d3165c060904251902v439f9b91t53b970d2e33f8df5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
	<ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d3165c060904251902v439f9b91t53b970d2e33f8df5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <228733.28353.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


my hope is that auto-tune abuse?goes the way of the vocoder.
?andrew


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com 



----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
tossed out to the masses at large:

Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
preset of the program...

obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
wait, here's one now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6fVdAFGSI&feature=related

...long live local news banter.

t.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
>
> k
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
>> It only improves it....
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fb_1240533565
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> kristin miltner
> audio professional
> www.kristinmiltner.net
> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
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From letucepry at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 26 01:02:55 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 01:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <228733.28353.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
	<ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>
	<d3165c060904251902v439f9b91t53b970d2e33f8df5@mail.gmail.com>
	<228733.28353.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed supermodels in Vogue?
If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would certainly not?make anyone?believe (pun not intended...in life after love after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...

lettuce



________________________________
From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News


my hope is that auto-tune abuse?goes the way of the vocoder.
?andrew


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
tossed out to the masses at large:

Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
preset of the program...

obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
wait, here's one now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6fVdAFGSI&feature=related

...long live local news banter.

t.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
>
> k
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
>> It only improves it....
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> kristin miltner
> audio professional
> www.kristinmiltner.net
> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
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From electric.tokyo at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 08:07:25 2009
From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 08:07:25 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Audio air-brush, yes, perhaps. But just like the Vogue air brush,
there's undoubtedly many more uses to the tool than just painting away
wrinkles and stretch marks.

With auto-tune, the dumb vocodery t-cher robot voice only occurs when
you crank the attack time on the effect to full throttle and sing
REALLY off key. If you're only sort of off key, it's much less
noticeable in the live/vst version. With the full package, you can
process off-line note by note and really get zesty with pitch
correction.

However, that's still working under the assumption that you're still
working "in the box" with the software. Let's get out of our cardboard
safety net for a second and talk about creative MUSICAL applications
of the software - (just to dispel the notion that while it probably
took a fair amount of time for our video artist to click and cut our
news personalities and other stereotypes into a beat-matched grid, the
argument we're going for is the creative use of auto-tune as an
application, not the use of auto-tune in a creative application) - for
instance, auto-tune comes pre-packaged with a huge chunk of
just-intoned tuning maps, as well as the option for you to create your
own tuning maps if you so desire. Hell, it even has an 11-limit 43
note per octave Partch scale as one of it's in box presets - even with
the t-pain preset, you;d think that would at least be somewhat
creative!

However, that's not my initial early-morning, pre-coffee thought on
creatively using said plugin - this is:

Take a nice gong and your usual bass bow used for playing gongs
"west-coast improv style." Find the fundamental tone of the gong,
possibly a slew of harmonics, if desired, either through intuition,
experimentation or via ye olde chromatic tuning device. From there,
add a dash of auto-tune, possibly running on an aux-send, either
hooked to a mixer or via volume pedal, if you happen to be spartan in
your live setups. Tune autotune to a really nice set of intervals
that'll really create some interesting beatings when applied to a live
room and t-pain to taste - i'd personally go for something much more
subtle in this case, but eh, you know, do what you gotta. From there,
go to town with a nice selection of expanded hyperinstrument
psychoacoustics ala auto-tune and bask in the glory of turning
consumer intentions on it's side once again, just like that time you
used a vibrator on your guitar or airbrushed that really cool looking
wizard on the side of your burner-mobile at the playa... or at least
he said he was a wizard.

hey, more cats!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbbVxkMRqXA&NR=1

(t)





On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed supermodels in Vogue?
> If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would certainly not?make anyone?believe (pun not intended...in life after love after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
>
> my hope is that auto-tune abuse?goes the way of the vocoder.
> ?andrew
>
>
> http://oudevoida.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
> and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
> tossed out to the masses at large:
>
> Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
> pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
> everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
> to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
> hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
> preset of the program...
>
> obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
> opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
> move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
> wait, here's one now!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtu6fVdAFGSI&featurerelated
>
> ...long live local news banter.
>
> t.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
>> HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
>>
>> k
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It only improves it....
>>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> kristin miltner
>> audio professional
>> www.kristinmiltner.net
>> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
>> http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From liberatednsf at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 26 10:31:55 2009
From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:31:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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	<228733.28353.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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in the studio,?auto-tune is usually used to move one or?a few?notes of a song?a few cents closer to being in pitch.? Faster and easier and?just as transparent?(probably moreso)?than punching an overdub which is how we used to fix such things.? but you can also use it to drastically alter anything, at which point it is extremely obvious but has become very nornal in current r&b or?pop or whatever the?kids are calling it these days?vocals.? (The fix?in this genre?used to be to double-track the vocals.)? Quantizing?(lining everything up in time)?is another function of pro-tools that used to be what midi was for.

andrew
?


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com 



----- Original Message ----
From: Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 1:02:55 AM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed supermodels in Vogue?
If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would certainly not?make anyone?believe (pun not intended...in life after love after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...

lettuce



________________________________
From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News


my hope is that auto-tune abuse?goes the way of the vocoder.
?andrew


http://oudevoida.blogspot.com



----- Original Message ----
From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
tossed out to the masses at large:

Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
preset of the program...

obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
wait, here's one now!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu6fVdAFGSI&feature=related

...long live local news banter.

t.



On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com> wrote:
> HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
>
> k
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
>> It only improves it....
>> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
> --
> kristin miltner
> audio professional
> www.kristinmiltner.net
> www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
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From miltnerunit at gmail.com  Sun Apr 26 11:07:57 2009
From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:07:57 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>
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> Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might
add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...

I didn't think this video was dumb at all! I thought it was really clever.
For me, listening to Katie Couric talking about global warming through
excessive auto-tune, by putting that artificial and robotic melodic (melody
is an attempt by our species to organize our chaotic world) sheen on that
scary subject matter, even though it was punctuated by the
artist-commentator being funny, turned out to be pretty haunting for a
minute there.  I found that moment amazingly beautiful.
It had a lot of different counteractive layers: Funny, scary, pretty,
silly...and it's also a pretty solid pop tune he wrote.

k


On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being
> used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed
> supermodels in Vogue?
> If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle
> sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would
> certainly not make anyone believe (pun not intended...in life after love
> after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb
> video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those
> people were not just talking in time by accident...
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
>
> my hope is that auto-tune abuse goes the way of the vocoder.
>  andrew
>
>
> http://oudevoida.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
> and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
> tossed out to the masses at large:
>
> Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
> pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
> everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
> to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
> hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
> preset of the program...
>
> obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
> opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
> move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
> wait, here's one now!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtu6fVdAFGSI&featurerelated
>
> ...long live local news banter.
>
> t.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
> >
> > k
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It only improves it....
> >> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > kristin miltner
> > audio professional
> > www.kristinmiltner.net
> > www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> > http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 26 21:01:51 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:01:51 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
In-Reply-To: <ef1ad92c0904261107v399f5ec1y74bf00e72c6a6777@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6172797.4D4%gino@rastascan.com>	<ef1ad92c0904240912s65ce658bu544b1c74f2aa3c5d@mail.gmail.com>	<d3165c060904251902v439f9b91t53b970d2e33f8df5@mail.gmail.com>	<228733.28353.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<787335.49434.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
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Now for a bit before how you used technology to be creative.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mVpGmoES3w 

-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of kristin miltner
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:08 AM
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

> Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might
add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...

I didn't think this video was dumb at all! I thought it was really clever.
For me, listening to Katie Couric talking about global warming through
excessive auto-tune, by putting that artificial and robotic melodic (melody
is an attempt by our species to organize our chaotic world) sheen on that
scary subject matter, even though it was punctuated by the
artist-commentator being funny, turned out to be pretty haunting for a
minute there.  I found that moment amazingly beautiful.
It had a lot of different counteractive layers: Funny, scary, pretty,
silly...and it's also a pretty solid pop tune he wrote.

k


On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being
> used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed
> supermodels in Vogue?
> If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle
> sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would
> certainly not make anyone believe (pun not intended...in life after love
> after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb
> video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those
> people were not just talking in time by accident...
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
>
> my hope is that auto-tune abuse goes the way of the vocoder.
>  andrew
>
>
> http://oudevoida.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
> and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
> tossed out to the masses at large:
>
> Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
> pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
> everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
> to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
> hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
> preset of the program...
>
> obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
> opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
> move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
> wait, here's one now!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtu6fVdAFGSI&featurerelated
>
> ...long live local news banter.
>
> t.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
> >
> > k
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It only improves it....
> >> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > kristin miltner
> > audio professional
> > www.kristinmiltner.net
> > www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
> > http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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audio professional
www.kristinmiltner.net
www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html
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From letucepry at yahoo.com  Sun Apr 26 23:36:24 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
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Well, I kinda thought the "Boring" part in the?beginning was lame, as was the self deprocating grandma phone call (you mean after that Katie Couric part, you're going to stick me with this lame ass shit?)...the rest of the video left me wanting more (and searching for it I might add...)

lettuce


________________________________
From: kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 11:07:57 AM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News

> Dumb video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might
add...those people were not just talking in time by accident...

I didn't think this video was dumb at all! I thought it was really clever.
For me, listening to Katie Couric talking about global warming through
excessive auto-tune, by putting that artificial and robotic melodic (melody
is an attempt by our species to organize our chaotic world) sheen on that
scary subject matter, even though it was punctuated by the
artist-commentator being funny, turned out to be pretty haunting for a
minute there.? I found that moment amazingly beautiful.
It had a lot of different counteractive layers: Funny, scary, pretty,
silly...and it's also a pretty solid pop tune he wrote.

k


On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:02 AM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wait...now is this the same "Auto-Tune" that has been described as being
> used to correct pop singers off key singing? much like the Air-brushed
> supermodels in Vogue?
> If so, I don't see it...I would GUARANTEE that there is a much more subtle
> sort, I mean cause this just sounds like a vocoder to me...and would
> certainly not make anyone believe (pun not intended...in life after love
> after love after love...) that someone was actually singing in key...Dumb
> video, yes, but creative, and quite a bit of work, I might add...those
> people were not just talking in time by accident...
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: andrew wilshusen <liberatednsf at yahoo.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 8:17:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
>
> my hope is that auto-tune abuse goes the way of the vocoder.
>? andrew
>
>
> http://oudevoida.blogspot.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Travis Johns <electric.tokyo at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 7:02:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Auto-Tuned News
>
> and now for the conversation-oriented new music-eqsue question to be
> tossed out to the masses at large:
>
> Auto-tune: artistic merit? or the latest in a continual siege of
> pitch-adjusted video novelties to be heaped upon the masses as
> everyone embraces the least-common-denominator and does their utmost
> to imitate... t-pain? which, all said and done isn't really all that
> hard, considering that the "t-pain effect" is essentially the demo
> preset of the program...
>
> obviously, this reporter is fairly biased. but regardless, any other
> opinions on creative applications of the software? or shall we just
> move onto another funny video about, oh, lets see... swimming cats? oh
> wait, here's one now!
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vtu6fVdAFGSI&featurerelated
>
> ...long live local news banter.
>
> t.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 9:12 AM, kristin miltner <miltnerunit at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > HAHA this is so excellent. things DO sound better with autotune.
> >
> > k
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
> >
> >> It only improves it....
> >> http://www.liveleak.com/view?i?b_1240533565
> >>
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From malcolm.smith at redwoodcity.org  Mon Apr 27 18:23:25 2009
From: malcolm.smith at redwoodcity.org (MGR-Malcolm Smith)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:23:25 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] new subscriber question about seeking musicians
Message-ID: <D608A1266764EE478403044B1451D85A11B51D2646@rwcexch4>

Hi all - I don't know if this is the 'right' place or not (and truthfully, don't we all wonder that at times??).

Anyway, I'm seeking musicians for very casual jamming/improv/learning. I am a guitarist, and have spent much time in the progressive rock genre (my band Metaphor has released 3 cds). The band has run its course, and i'm looking for something else...meditational, ambient, yoga-riffic music is something I'd like to try. I have good equipment including guitar synth.

I do compose quite a bit, but in the full band prog rock vein. So hooking up with someone that has some music structures in this different area would be ideal for me, to add my color to the music, perhaps. Or pure improv, with strong melodic sense. Hmmm. Not sure if i'm making sense...

So do you think I am in the right place, and if not can someone recommend a listserv or other source where I can correspond with other musicians toward possibly getting together?


~ malcolm

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From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 23:39:10 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:39:10 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] New youtube videos: Tom Nunn
Message-ID: <c70e517b0904272339x6dbeb0d4i21eaaa9ac493493d@mail.gmail.com>

I just filmed and uploaded some new videos about Tom Nunn over the
weekend. They're at:
http://www.youtube.com/user/RibosomeMatt

--Sonoglyph: demonstration & performance
--Crustacean: demonstration
--Skatchboxes: demo & performance (with David Michalak)

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Mon Apr 27 23:52:27 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:52:27 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] new subscriber question about seeking musicians
In-Reply-To: <D608A1266764EE478403044B1451D85A11B51D2646@rwcexch4>
References: <D608A1266764EE478403044B1451D85A11B51D2646@rwcexch4>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0904272352o425e3c8h42e6694e54e44e7d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Malcolm,
If you're looking for "pure improv" musicians, you're in the right
place. A good place to get started might be to check out
www.bayimproviser.com, which is where we have our events calendar. A
lot of the musicians on this list also have profiles there.

There's a wide, but clumping range of improvised music here, so a good
way to find out who's doing the sorts of things you're looking for
would be to go to shows on the calendar that might strike your fancy,
and say hello to the performers afterwards. We're a pretty friendly
bunch.

Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com

On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 6:23 PM, MGR-Malcolm Smith
<malcolm.smith at redwoodcity.org> wrote:
> Hi all - I don't know if this is the 'right' place or not (and truthfully, don't we all wonder that at times??).
>
> Anyway, I'm seeking musicians for very casual jamming/improv/learning. I am a guitarist, and have spent much time in the progressive rock genre (my band Metaphor has released 3 cds). The band has run its course, and i'm looking for something else...meditational, ambient, yoga-riffic music is something I'd like to try. I have good equipment including guitar synth.
>
> I do compose quite a bit, but in the full band prog rock vein. So hooking up with someone that has some music structures in this different area would be ideal for me, to add my color to the music, perhaps. Or pure improv, with strong melodic sense. Hmmm. Not sure if i'm making sense...
>
> So do you think I am in the right place, and if not can someone recommend a listserv or other source where I can correspond with other musicians toward possibly getting together?
>
>
> ~ malcolm
>
> Malcolm Smith
> Public Communications Manager
> City of Redwood City, California
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From gino at rastascan.com  Tue Apr 28 00:09:42 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:09:42 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Create your own mood music, dude!
Message-ID: <C61BF9C6.4F3%gino@rastascan.com>

Thanks to Steve Lew for finding this winner:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17022-can-internal-brain-music-be-used
-in-therapy.html

"Psychologists are unconvinced by US Department of Homeland Security
suggestions that the brain's own music can change an individual's mood."

{I kind of like the idea of brain feedback, though. Not just biofeedback,
but putting the brains mic in front of it's speaker, so to speak.)


From gino at rastascan.com  Tue Apr 28 00:15:27 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:15:27 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Tom Nunn Rig videos
Message-ID: <C61BFB1F.4F4%gino@rastascan.com>

Thank you, Matt! Really a hoot to watch. Tom is amazing....


From michaelz at zoka.com  Tue Apr 28 12:58:18 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 12:58:18 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
Message-ID: <p062408dac61ced379baf@[192.168.0.2]>

Queen Bohemian Rhapsody Old School Computer Remix

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht96HJ01SE4>


From mhenry at crypticstudios.com  Tue Apr 28 22:06:10 2009
From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry)
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 22:06:10 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Create your own mood music, dude!
Message-ID: <C73CE12E0E2E6D4AA8C97475050023A60FF4DF8730@proserpine.paragon.crypticstudios.com>

>>Lawrence Parsons, a psychologist at the University of Sheffield, UK, thinks the proposed work taps into a number of well-established research areas. 
>>"But I don't think they have a clue about what they're trying to do," he adds.

Really. Has Homeland Insecurity ever had a clue about what they're trying to do?

>>"Some people can listen to first chords of Pachelbel's Canon and feel their eyelids getting heavy, but others can listen to the whole thing without an impact," he says. 

Some people (myself included) listen to the first chords of Palchelbel's Canon and immediately want to poke out their eardrums with a knitting needle.   ;-)

-MH


------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:09:42 -0700
From: Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>
Subject: [NewMusic] Create your own mood music, dude!
To: <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <C61BF9C6.4F3%gino at rastascan.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Thanks to Steve Lew for finding this winner:

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17022-can-internal-brain-music-be-used
-in-therapy.html

"Psychologists are unconvinced by US Department of Homeland Security
suggestions that the brain's own music can change an individual's mood."

{I kind of like the idea of brain feedback, though. Not just biofeedback,
but putting the brains mic in front of it's speaker, so to speak.)

From bradysharp at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 11:34:50 2009
From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 13:34:50 -0500
Subject: [NewMusic] A swine Flu soundtrack
Message-ID: <a7177e350904291134r4dd3b298x61001824e98ce1a@mail.gmail.com>

The URL says it all..

http://stephan-zielinski.com/dwa/2009/04/28/swine-flu-ha-as-ambient-music/

Brady

From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 29 12:22:05 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 12:22:05 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] A swine Flu soundtrack
In-Reply-To: <a7177e350904291134r4dd3b298x61001824e98ce1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a7177e350904291134r4dd3b298x61001824e98ce1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98e30a870904291222h8b656f0g397f23b09faacf6b@mail.gmail.com>

um
ah
glbz?
zzzzzzzzzzzzz

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 11:34 AM, Brady Sharp <bradysharp at gmail.com> wrote:

> The URL says it all..
>
> http://stephan-zielinski.com/dwa/2009/04/28/swine-flu-ha-as-ambient-music/
>
> Brady
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From djll at sonic.net  Thu Apr 30 09:11:24 2009
From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:11:24 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Create your own mood music, dude!
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1241064003.332.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
References: <mailman.1.1241064003.332.newmusic@music.mills.edu>
Message-ID: <A9BB9DDA-0AC0-4E9C-B8E5-DFB516241AAE@sonic.net>

"While the study has some degree of coherency, "the researchers are  
mixing [a number of theoretical ideas] into a brood that makes no  
sense," says Parsons."

(Yes, but it might make somebody some money.)

The above quote seems most salient; putting the theoretical brood  
aside for the moment, the source of the "brain music" is basically a  
single source, a "brain mic" if you will, but the "speaker" is, first,  
modulated with some arbitrary pitch and rhythmic values, and, second,  
the result passes into a much more complex and multi-functioned set of  
sensory and behavioral processors which allow us to recognize music,  
blah blah blah, lecturing to the choir here...

td

On Apr 29, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote:

> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 00:09:42 -0700
> From: Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>
> Subject: [NewMusic] Create your own mood music, dude!
> To: <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Message-ID: <C61BF9C6.4F3%gino at rastascan.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
>
> Thanks to Steve Lew for finding this winner:
>
> http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17022-can-internal-brain-music-be-used
> -in-therapy.html
>
> "Psychologists are unconvinced by US Department of Homeland Security
> suggestions that the brain's own music can change an individual's  
> mood."
>
> {I kind of like the idea of brain feedback, though. Not just  
> biofeedback,
> but putting the brains mic in front of it's speaker, so to speak.)


Tom Djll
227 Otis St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(831) 429-8072  home
(831) 423-3050 office
(831) 320-1489 cell
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From djll at sonic.net  Thu Apr 30 09:44:07 2009
From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 09:44:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] bio-feedback from the heartland
Message-ID: <639180B1-6E0C-409F-A53E-99778EA6C162@sonic.net>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtKttr2Tnyw&feature=player_embedded

Dancin' mallet-fingered fool from Portland, Indiana... 'nuff said...

Tom Djll
227 Otis St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(831) 429-8072  home
(831) 423-3050 office
(831) 320-1489 cell
djll at sonic.net
tom at mythmaker.com
www.mythmaker.com

Music, calendar, & bio:
http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll

More music w/sound snippets:
http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer

Photography:
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From matt at sfsound.org  Thu Apr 30 10:20:04 2009
From: matt at sfsound.org (matt)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:20:04 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Need a Sound Engineer; MS to SFSoundSeries
References: <5E72F38E-52C5-406C-901E-3AD5DD2658AF@christopherfulkerson.com>
Message-ID: <F9360E6D-84B8-458A-93B0-31B0BA7F2207@sfsound.org>



Begin forwarded message:

> From: Christopher Fulkerson <christopher at christopherfulkerson.com>
> Date: April 30, 2009 9:27:55 AM PDT
> To: series at sfsound.org
> Cc: Christopher Fulkerson <christopher at christopherfulkerson.com>
> Subject: Need a Sound Engineer; MS to SFSoundSeries
>
> Hi There,
>
> I am a composer and conductor here in the Bay Area, and am doing a  
> program of my music at Old First Concerts on May 10th.
>
> I have just learned that my sound engineer has had a stroke, and  
> probably cannot do the concert.   I need to replace him for basic  
> recording and playback capacities.    This is a paying gig.
>
> Do you have anyone you can recommend who can do this job?
>
> I would really appreciate some names of sound engineers you  
> trust.     If they do not themselves own a proper playback system we  
> can work that out later.
>
> Thanks very much, sincerely,
>
> Christopher Fulkerson
> cell 415-609-3567
> home 650-343-3760

m@



From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com  Thu Apr 30 10:31:41 2009
From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:31:41 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] bio-feedback from the heartland
In-Reply-To: <639180B1-6E0C-409F-A53E-99778EA6C162@sonic.net>
References: <639180B1-6E0C-409F-A53E-99778EA6C162@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <31A7362D-96DC-4DD4-B1A6-CA19FB6B999A@matthewgoodheart.com>

Excellent, but Willie Hall is still my favorite Vaudeville act:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XA16CzV_Y0&NR=1

mg


On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Tom Dill wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtKttr2Tnyw&feature=player_embedded
>
> Dancin' mallet-fingered fool from Portland, Indiana... 'nuff said...
>
> Tom Djll
> 227 Otis St.
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> (831) 429-8072  home
> (831) 423-3050 office
> (831) 320-1489 cell
> djll at sonic.net
> tom at mythmaker.com
> www.mythmaker.com
>
> Music, calendar, & bio:
> http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll
>
> More music w/sound snippets:
> http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer
>
> Photography:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

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composer ~ improviser ~ pianist
matthew at matthewgoodheart.com
http://matthewgoodheart.com
http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart





From gino at rastascan.com  Thu Apr 30 13:00:00 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:00:00 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Bioheedback from the Fartland
Message-ID: <C61F5150.501%gino@rastascan.com>

Damn, Mr. Djll.  Good one.
But it also linked to this good 'un with the steel guitar. Gotta love that
voulumen knob technique. (A pedal just wouldn't get the point across...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHlmsMhcdrM&NR=1


From gino at rastascan.com  Thu Apr 30 13:26:40 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:26:40 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Rahsaan Roland Kirk, live '72.
Message-ID: <C61F5790.502%gino@rastascan.com>

Did someone post this link already?
If so, sorry. If not...dig!

http://www.thirteen.org/soul/2009/02/06/october-4-1972/


From slusser at pixar.com  Thu Apr 30 13:21:43 2009
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:21:43 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Rahsaan Roland Kirk, live '72.
In-Reply-To: <C61F5790.502%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C61F5790.502%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <00356BDE-6D2E-46C7-AF39-6C1FFCE894A7@pixar.com>

On Apr 30, 2009, at 1:26 PM, Gino Robair wrote:

> Did someone post this link already?
> If so, sorry. If not...dig!
>
> http://www.thirteen.org/soul/2009/02/06/october-4-1972/

God, I remember the original broadcast.  My (racist) future
father-in-law went apoplectic when Rahsaan started in on the
folding chair.  Some people just don't understand art.

From gcremaschi at hotmail.com  Thu Apr 30 16:18:33 2009
From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 16:18:33 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Rahsaan Roland Kirk, live '72.
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> My (racist) future father-in-law went apoplectic when Rahsaan started in on the
> folding chair.  Some people just don't understand art.

But, what IS with the folding-chair bit???? It's really weird....


-George








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From pnyboer at slambassador.com  Thu Apr 30 21:32:42 2009
From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:32:42 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Rahsaan Roland Kirk, live '72
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Lovin' it! Thanks!

From magsatellite at yahoo.com  Thu Apr 30 23:07:53 2009
From: magsatellite at yahoo.com (J. Segel)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:07:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Bioweedwack from the artland
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wow. sure beats anything on american idol. 

i gotta cop some of them hendrix-ish bowing techniques! amazing. and maybe get some long shoes.
what's funny to me is that "pop goes the weasel" is probably why i started playing violin to begin with: a girl i like played violin and i saw her play that, with the pizzicato pop and i thought, i wanna do that too!

-jes

> Excellent, but Willie Hall is still my favorite Vaudeville
> act:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XA16CzV_Y0&NR=1
> 
> mg
> 
> 
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 9:44 AM, Tom Dill wrote:
> 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtKttr2Tnyw&feature=player_embedded
> >
> > Dancin' mallet-fingered fool from Portland, Indiana...
> 'nuff said...


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