From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sun Feb 1 09:21:18 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:21:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] One of the better writeups I've seen (for the SFTMF) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <31E0411A-C770-4913-AE11-5A5A535F4654@slambassador.com> >> ...............George Adored your piece at the tmf last night! One of the highlights! AND THANK YOU ALL INVOLVED for putting on a terrific festival. I feel privileged that there is even an opportunity to listen to music in such a format, much less excellent music! > I'm not speaking for Mr. Walter, here, but I'd argue that in terms of > marketing - in terms of getting people in the audience - > highlighting the > New Music 101-ers, would be useful. > sl The symphony trap! They never seem to musically grow because it's always Brahms, Mozart (makes you smarter), and Beethoven. But no one will go if they do something different. However, the day when there's just too damn much Xenakis being played will be a fine, fine day. Also, speaking of the NM-101 programming, it doesn't just serve you well for attendance: as evidenced by the Berio piece, it's just High Quality Shit. Man, that was TERRIFIC. This leads me to my only critical impression of the TMF is that there is a lack of space and percussion in many of the compositions. Simply put, a tendency for an abundance of SR in the ADSR. Finally, about that snarky (I think the word was invented for this particular writeup) bit - the part I don't get is, why devote precious ink and content space to promoting an event with sarcasm? Why not writeup something that the editorial staff thinks is worthwhile to attend? Very weird. Maybe that's just how kids talk these days? Like the old mcdonald's (bk maybe?) ad where the urban youth are talking about how "bad" the food is, and the old white couple are mystified, cuz they think it's pretty good. Oh well, no such thing as bad press and all.... peter. From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Feb 1 09:41:24 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 09:41:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] One of the better writeups I've seen (for the SFTMF) In-Reply-To: <31E0411A-C770-4913-AE11-5A5A535F4654@slambassador.com> References: <31E0411A-C770-4913-AE11-5A5A535F4654@slambassador.com> Message-ID: On 2/1/09, Peter Nyboer wrote: >Finally, about that snarky (I think the word was invented for this >particular writeup) bit - the part I don't get is, why devote >precious ink and content space to promoting an event with sarcasm? 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Thanks, David From slusser at pixar.com Sun Feb 1 12:10:05 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:10:05 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] interesting way to compose In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1766C5B5-1394-4A47-A554-F9256B24482D@pixar.com> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQPeoyqyP4 From miltnerunit at gmail.com Sun Feb 1 12:13:38 2009 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 12:13:38 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] One of the better writeups I've seen (for the SFTMF) In-Reply-To: <31E0411A-C770-4913-AE11-5A5A535F4654@slambassador.com> References: <31E0411A-C770-4913-AE11-5A5A535F4654@slambassador.com> Message-ID: yes! Great job curating, Matt, Cliff, Kent and Tom. Peter says: "Simply put, a tendency for an abundance of SR in the ADSR." that tendency is definitely compounded by the acoustics of Cell Space itself, same problem (or asset) as Theatre Artaud. The cathedral-high ceilings in warehouse spaces like that don't lend themselves well to detail and definition, everything sounds 'ringy.' Cliff and I were talking about that later; how, in some of the pieces, the elements that worked well in that space did not have their own reverb embedded in the files themselves. This let the natural reverb in the space give the sounds their SR. Beautiful. it is possible to EQ the mids to compensate, but it's tough. k On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > >> ...............George > Adored your piece at the tmf last night! One of the highlights! AND > THANK YOU ALL INVOLVED for putting on a terrific festival. I feel > privileged that there is even an opportunity to listen to music in > such a format, much less excellent music! > > > I'm not speaking for Mr. Walter, here, but I'd argue that in terms of > > marketing - in terms of getting people in the audience - > > highlighting the > > New Music 101-ers, would be useful. > > sl > > The symphony trap! They never seem to musically grow because it's > always Brahms, Mozart (makes you smarter), and Beethoven. But no one > will go if they do something different. However, the day when there's > just too damn much Xenakis being played will be a fine, fine day. > > Also, speaking of the NM-101 programming, it doesn't just serve you > well for attendance: as evidenced by the Berio piece, it's just High > Quality Shit. Man, that was TERRIFIC. This leads me to my only > critical impression of the TMF is that there is a lack of space and > percussion in many of the compositions. Simply put, a tendency for > an abundance of SR in the ADSR. > > Finally, about that snarky (I think the word was invented for this > particular writeup) bit - the part I don't get is, why devote > precious ink and content space to promoting an event with sarcasm? > Why not writeup something that the editorial staff thinks is > worthwhile to attend? Very weird. Maybe that's just how kids talk > these days? Like the old mcdonald's (bk maybe?) ad where the urban > youth are talking about how "bad" the food is, and the old white > couple are mystified, cuz they think it's pretty good. Oh well, no > such thing as bad press and all.... > > peter. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.kristinmiltner.net www.myspace.com/miltnerunit http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sun Feb 1 21:13:12 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 21:13:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] SFTMF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > that tendency is definitely compounded by the acoustics of Cell Space > itself, same problem (or asset) as Theatre Artaud. During the performance, I found myself looking around at the cinder block wondering "How does this not sound shitty?" From miltnerunit at gmail.com Mon Feb 2 12:05:41 2009 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:05:41 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] SFTMF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I know! Was it the Meyers and some clever placement of them? i liked the fills in the far back, above the door for added depth. Worked with the building very nicely. k On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > > that tendency is definitely compounded by the acoustics of Cell Space > > itself, same problem (or asset) as Theatre Artaud. > > During the performance, I found myself looking around at the cinder > block wondering "How does this not sound shitty?" > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.kristinmiltner.net www.myspace.com/miltnerunit http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Feb 2 12:52:02 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 12:52:02 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Henry Kaiser/Damon Smith "Listen" duo re-posted Message-ID: http://www.bagatellen.com/?p=1207 There is also a new solo at my solo page below. Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 3 14:01:56 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:01:56 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc Message-ID: It's a testament to the strength and breadth of the Bay Area creative music scene that there was so little overlap in this month's Transbay Calendar Top Ten 2008 lists. And, it's a similar sign that there were folks from a number of the local micro-scene's giving their lists -- so many interesting shows in 2008! For those of you doing the grunt work of putting out the Transbay, I give you a standing ovation this month with the additions of "Greenlief @50 and Crosley Bendix's End of Music. (Thanks, of course for just doing this to begin with.) I want only to add my own belated Top Eleven list --- The Bay Areans that consistently knocked me out in 2008, or at least during the gigs or sessions I saw them play in (in no particular order, mind you....) Konoko Nishi Liz Allbee John Shiurba Moe! Staiano Phillip Greenlief (esp. that Sacto gig with Aurora and Carl-Ludwig Huebusch!!!) Matthew Goodheart Kyle Bruckmann Kristin Miltner/Wobbly/Chris Brown (okay, it was a short-lived trio in my opera. But they killed. And individually they slay me as well.) Ava Mendoza From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 14:46:58 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 14:46:58 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My list of "10 instrument rigs that turned my ears into hearts" didn't make it to print either. Suki and Tom said they might squeeze it into next month's issue but I'm not sure if that was to keep me from crying in public and making a scene. :) Matt On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > > I want only to add my own belated Top Eleven list --- The Bay Areans that > consistently knocked me out in 2008, or at least during the gigs or sessions > I saw them play in (in no particular order, mind you....) > > Konoko Nishi > > Liz Allbee > > John Shiurba > > Moe! Staiano > > Phillip Greenlief (esp. that Sacto gig with Aurora and Carl-Ludwig > Huebusch!!!) > > Matthew Goodheart > > Kyle Bruckmann > > Kristin Miltner/Wobbly/Chris Brown (okay, it was a short-lived trio in my > opera. But they killed. And individually they slay me as well.) > > Ava Mendoza > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 15:44:56 2009 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:44:56 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] guitar wall stands/hangers Message-ID: <317505170902031544q696f8030n8e3435c9cc18c7c8@mail.gmail.com> Hi, Anyone out there gots any guitar wall hangers/stands they want to get rid off? Email offlist, thanks... Ava From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 16:08:32 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:08:32 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <20090203231023.6FD30A2E49@coyote.dreamhost.com> References: <20090203231023.6FD30A2E49@coyote.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: I just got this in my inbox. Does anyone close to ATA know the details? Why would ATA "be kicked out immediately" if formula retail wanted to move in? Matt ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Artists' Television Access Mailing List Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM Subject: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door Dear ATA friend, You might have heard that American Apparel wants to move into 988 Valencia Street, next door to ATA. If American Apparel is let in by the Planning Commission, things are going to start getting more difficult for ATA. For example, if formula retail could and wanted to move into our space we would be kicked out immediately. If we don't stop this one, we won't be able to stop any. If you would like to help ATA in this matter by helping save the neighborhood from formula retail, write an e-mail today to the Planning Commission. Include your street address and say why you are against formula retail stores on Valencia Street. We include this to give you a start. Personalize it or just put in your name and address. Write whatever you want! "My name is ______ and I live at _________. I support local independent businesses near 988 Valencia Street and I don't want the character of the Valencia Street commercial and residential neighborhood to change by letting in a formula retail chain. Please do not allow American Apparel to move into this particular spot." Pilar LaValley San Francisco Planning Department Pilar.Lavalley at sfgov.org Bevan Dufty District 8 Supervisor Bevan.Dufty at sfgov.org David Campos District 9 Supervisor David.Campos at sfgov.org Christina Olague President of the SF Planning Commission c_olague at yahoo.com Lawrence B. Badiner Zoning Administrator San Francisco Planning Department Larry.Badiner at sfgov.org Gavin Newsom Mayor of San Francisco Gavin.Newsom at sfgov.org Also, you can come to the Planning Commission hearing this Thursday at 1:30pm, room 400. We will e-mail you again, if the date or time is changed. It will be fun, even if you don't want to speak. City Hall is a great place to be with your friends, if you are lucky enough not to be working or are able to take some time off to go check out a public hearing. Please, e-mail us at ata at atasite.org if you have any questions or comments. And please forward this to anyone who might want to help ATA stay in the neighborhood. People that live within 4 blocks of 21st and Valencia are especially valuable, but all San Francisco residents count. Thank You, ATA Volunteers Artists' Television Access 992 Valencia Street San Francisco, CA 94110 http://www.atasite.org ................................................................ To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list, visit: http://www.atasite.org/mailinglist/ From jfheule at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 16:12:12 2009 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:12:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9c5cfa860902031612s4a7d7b22l29d929942c2ca4f4@mail.gmail.com> my top 10 stouts didn't make the cut either, but a topless picture of me did. jacob -- http://www.heule.us http://www.myspace.com/jacobfelix new album, Idea of West: http://www.heule.us/ideaofwest/ On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > My list of "10 instrument rigs that turned my ears into hearts" didn't > make it to print either. Suki and Tom said they might squeeze it into > next month's issue but I'm not sure if that was to keep me from crying > in public and making a scene. :) > > Matt > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Robair, Gino > wrote: > > > > > I want only to add my own belated Top Eleven list --- The Bay Areans that > > consistently knocked me out in 2008, or at least during the gigs or > sessions > > I saw them play in (in no particular order, mind you....) > > > > Konoko Nishi > > > > Liz Allbee > > > > John Shiurba > > > > Moe! Staiano > > > > Phillip Greenlief (esp. that Sacto gig with Aurora and Carl-Ludwig > > Huebusch!!!) > > > > Matthew Goodheart > > > > Kyle Bruckmann > > > > Kristin Miltner/Wobbly/Chris Brown (okay, it was a short-lived trio in my > > opera. But they killed. And individually they slay me as well.) > > > > Ava Mendoza > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From weaselw at juno.com Tue Feb 3 16:20:06 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:20:06 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door Message-ID: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> if the ata space is owned by the same parties that own the space next door, sometimes there are weird clauses about retail expansion. i saw this happen in chicago to a friend of mine back in the '90s. w On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:08:32 -0800 Matt Davignon writes: > I just got this in my inbox. Does anyone close to ATA know the > details? Why would ATA "be kicked out immediately" if formula > retail > wanted to move in? > > Matt > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Artists' Television Access Mailing List > > Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM > Subject: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door > > > Dear ATA friend, > > You might have heard that American Apparel wants to move into 988 > Valencia Street, next door to ATA. If American Apparel is let in > by > the Planning Commission, things are going to start getting more > difficult for ATA. For example, if formula retail could and wanted > to > move into our space we would be kicked out immediately. If we don't > stop this one, we won't be able to stop any. > > If you would like to help ATA in this matter by helping save the > neighborhood from formula retail, write an e-mail today to the > Planning Commission. Include your street address and say why you > are > against formula retail stores on Valencia Street. We include this > to > give you a start. Personalize it or just put in your name and > address. > Write whatever you want! > > "My name is ______ and I live at _________. I support local > independent businesses near 988 Valencia Street and I don't want > the > character of the Valencia Street commercial and residential > neighborhood to change by letting in a formula retail chain. Please > do > not allow American Apparel to move into this particular spot." > > Pilar LaValley > San Francisco Planning Department > Pilar.Lavalley at sfgov.org > > Bevan Dufty > District 8 Supervisor > Bevan.Dufty at sfgov.org > > David Campos > District 9 Supervisor > David.Campos at sfgov.org > > Christina Olague > President of the SF Planning Commission > c_olague at yahoo.com > > Lawrence B. Badiner > Zoning Administrator > San Francisco Planning Department > Larry.Badiner at sfgov.org > > Gavin Newsom > Mayor of San Francisco > Gavin.Newsom at sfgov.org > > Also, you can come to the Planning Commission hearing this Thursday > at > 1:30pm, room 400. We will e-mail you again, if the date or time is > changed. It will be fun, even if you don't want to speak. City Hall > is > a great place to be with your friends, if you are lucky enough not > to > be working or are able to take some time off to go check out a > public > hearing. > > Please, e-mail us at ata at atasite.org if you have any questions or > comments. And please forward this to anyone who might want to help > ATA > stay in the neighborhood. People that live within 4 blocks of 21st > and > Valencia are especially valuable, but all San Francisco residents > count. > > Thank You, > ATA Volunteers > > > Artists' Television Access > 992 Valencia Street > San Francisco, CA 94110 > http://www.atasite.org > > > ................................................................ > To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list, visit: > http://www.atasite.org/mailinglist/ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > ____________________________________________________________ Improve air flow with a great looking ceiling fan. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2tE1ZkuwMMMPJ11XA9c8ocufabNjIt2dQJwfK2pGSa3VsHk/ From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 16:23:35 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:23:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc In-Reply-To: <9c5cfa860902031612s4a7d7b22l29d929942c2ca4f4@mail.gmail.com> References: <9c5cfa860902031612s4a7d7b22l29d929942c2ca4f4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: jacob felix heule was like: > my top 10 stouts didn't make the cut either, but a topless picture of me > did. I keep sending topless pictures of myself to the transbay, but they *never* print them. (mope.) From 21grand at 21grand.org Tue Feb 3 17:05:58 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah Lockhart) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:05:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> References: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> Message-ID: <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> basically the deal is this: ATA's landlord has raised their rent every year by $1000 for the past 2 or 3 years. Their rent had been quite low. Their landlord was pretty upfront with them about his goal to raise their rent to market rates. If American Apparel moves in next door, that market rate would jump significantly to an amount that they wouldn't be able to afford. The building had been owned by a real estate trust or something and they didn't really do anything - they didn't increase the rent, but they didn't want to make any improvements either. It got sold a couple years back, so the landlord they have now, is not the same one that they had for a decade or thereabouts. It's a similar story to the building on Grand Ave. that was 21 Grand's first home ... we moved out before the new owners jacked up the rents. sl > if the ata space is owned by the same parties that own the space next > door, sometimes there are weird clauses about retail expansion. i saw > this happen in chicago to a friend of mine back in the '90s. > > w > > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:08:32 -0800 Matt Davignon > writes: >> I just got this in my inbox. Does anyone close to ATA know the >> details? Why would ATA "be kicked out immediately" if formula >> retail >> wanted to move in? >> >> Matt >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: Artists' Television Access Mailing List >> >> Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM >> Subject: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door >> >> >> Dear ATA friend, >> >> You might have heard that American Apparel wants to move into 988 >> Valencia Street, next door to ATA. If American Apparel is let in >> by >> the Planning Commission, things are going to start getting more >> difficult for ATA. For example, if formula retail could and wanted >> to >> move into our space we would be kicked out immediately. If we don't >> stop this one, we won't be able to stop any. >> >> If you would like to help ATA in this matter by helping save the >> neighborhood from formula retail, write an e-mail today to the >> Planning Commission. Include your street address and say why you >> are >> against formula retail stores on Valencia Street. We include this >> to >> give you a start. Personalize it or just put in your name and >> address. >> Write whatever you want! >> >> "My name is ______ and I live at _________. I support local >> independent businesses near 988 Valencia Street and I don't want >> the >> character of the Valencia Street commercial and residential >> neighborhood to change by letting in a formula retail chain. Please >> do >> not allow American Apparel to move into this particular spot." >> >> Pilar LaValley >> San Francisco Planning Department >> Pilar.Lavalley at sfgov.org >> >> Bevan Dufty >> District 8 Supervisor >> Bevan.Dufty at sfgov.org >> >> David Campos >> District 9 Supervisor >> David.Campos at sfgov.org >> >> Christina Olague >> President of the SF Planning Commission >> c_olague at yahoo.com >> >> Lawrence B. Badiner >> Zoning Administrator >> San Francisco Planning Department >> Larry.Badiner at sfgov.org >> >> Gavin Newsom >> Mayor of San Francisco >> Gavin.Newsom at sfgov.org >> >> Also, you can come to the Planning Commission hearing this Thursday >> at >> 1:30pm, room 400. We will e-mail you again, if the date or time is >> changed. It will be fun, even if you don't want to speak. City Hall >> is >> a great place to be with your friends, if you are lucky enough not >> to >> be working or are able to take some time off to go check out a >> public >> hearing. >> >> Please, e-mail us at ata at atasite.org if you have any questions or >> comments. And please forward this to anyone who might want to help >> ATA >> stay in the neighborhood. People that live within 4 blocks of 21st >> and >> Valencia are especially valuable, but all San Francisco residents >> count. >> >> Thank You, >> ATA Volunteers >> >> >> Artists' Television Access >> 992 Valencia Street >> San Francisco, CA 94110 >> http://www.atasite.org >> >> >> ................................................................ >> To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list, visit: >> http://www.atasite.org/mailinglist/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > Improve air flow with a great looking ceiling fan. Click now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2tE1ZkuwMMMPJ11XA9c8ocufabNjIt2dQJwfK2pGSa3VsHk/ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From wobbly at detritus.net Tue Feb 3 17:18:02 2009 From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly at detritus.net) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:18:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> References: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> Message-ID: > If American Apparel moves in next door, that market > rate would jump significantly to an amount that they wouldn't be able to > afford. that, and the front AA is moving into is clearly small for one of their stores, so it's hard to see this as anything but a starter / foothold opening. they need some seriously regulations waived before they can move in, so I think e-mails and opposition really does help in this case. even if they weren't encroaching on one of the longest running important cultural centers in the Mission, AA is just a sketchy organization in general and I don't want them in my neighborhood, really don't want to think about having to walk by their storefront displays on my way to the corner store. I have nothing against erotica but they're up to something far worse than that. seriously if you're a local & have half a second to write to that e-mail below, it'd help -jl > The building had been owned by a real estate trust or something and they > didn't really do anything - they didn't increase the rent, but they didn't > want to make any improvements either. It got sold a couple years back, so > the landlord they have now, is not the same one that they had for a decade > or thereabouts. It's a similar story to the building on Grand Ave. that > was 21 Grand's first home ... we moved out before the new owners jacked up > the rents. > sl > >> if the ata space is owned by the same parties that own the space next >> door, sometimes there are weird clauses about retail expansion. i saw >> this happen in chicago to a friend of mine back in the '90s. >> >> w >> >> On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 16:08:32 -0800 Matt Davignon >> writes: >>> I just got this in my inbox. Does anyone close to ATA know the >>> details? Why would ATA "be kicked out immediately" if formula >>> retail >>> wanted to move in? >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Artists' Television Access Mailing List >>> >>> Date: Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:10 PM >>> Subject: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door >>> >>> >>> Dear ATA friend, >>> >>> You might have heard that American Apparel wants to move into 988 >>> Valencia Street, next door to ATA. If American Apparel is let in >>> by >>> the Planning Commission, things are going to start getting more >>> difficult for ATA. For example, if formula retail could and wanted >>> to >>> move into our space we would be kicked out immediately. If we don't >>> stop this one, we won't be able to stop any. >>> >>> If you would like to help ATA in this matter by helping save the >>> neighborhood from formula retail, write an e-mail today to the >>> Planning Commission. Include your street address and say why you >>> are >>> against formula retail stores on Valencia Street. We include this >>> to >>> give you a start. Personalize it or just put in your name and >>> address. >>> Write whatever you want! >>> >>> "My name is ______ and I live at _________. I support local >>> independent businesses near 988 Valencia Street and I don't want >>> the >>> character of the Valencia Street commercial and residential >>> neighborhood to change by letting in a formula retail chain. Please >>> do >>> not allow American Apparel to move into this particular spot." >>> >>> Pilar LaValley >>> San Francisco Planning Department >>> Pilar.Lavalley at sfgov.org >>> >>> Bevan Dufty >>> District 8 Supervisor >>> Bevan.Dufty at sfgov.org >>> >>> David Campos >>> District 9 Supervisor >>> David.Campos at sfgov.org >>> >>> Christina Olague >>> President of the SF Planning Commission >>> c_olague at yahoo.com >>> >>> Lawrence B. Badiner >>> Zoning Administrator >>> San Francisco Planning Department >>> Larry.Badiner at sfgov.org >>> >>> Gavin Newsom >>> Mayor of San Francisco >>> Gavin.Newsom at sfgov.org >>> >>> Also, you can come to the Planning Commission hearing this Thursday >>> at >>> 1:30pm, room 400. We will e-mail you again, if the date or time is >>> changed. It will be fun, even if you don't want to speak. City Hall >>> is >>> a great place to be with your friends, if you are lucky enough not >>> to >>> be working or are able to take some time off to go check out a >>> public >>> hearing. >>> >>> Please, e-mail us at ata at atasite.org if you have any questions or >>> comments. And please forward this to anyone who might want to help >>> ATA >>> stay in the neighborhood. People that live within 4 blocks of 21st >>> and >>> Valencia are especially valuable, but all San Francisco residents >>> count. >>> >>> Thank You, >>> ATA Volunteers >>> >>> >>> Artists' Television Access >>> 992 Valencia Street >>> San Francisco, CA 94110 >>> http://www.atasite.org >>> >>> >>> ................................................................ >>> To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list, visit: >>> http://www.atasite.org/mailinglist/ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >>> >> >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Improve air flow with a great looking ceiling fan. Click now! >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2tE1ZkuwMMMPJ11XA9c8ocufabNjIt2dQJwfK2pGSa3VsHk/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 3 17:40:37 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 17:40:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> References: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> Message-ID: Sarah Lockhart was like: > It's a similar story to the building on Grand Ave. that > was 21 Grand's first home ... we moved out before the new owners jacked up > the rents. It still gives me warm fuzzies to walk by the original 21 Grand address (now 23 Grand) and see that the space had not been rented out for years afterward. Is it still empty? I can't remember at the moment. ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. They've been very friendly to us. Matt From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 3 17:51:52 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 19:51:52 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Calling Matt Ingalls Message-ID: Hey Matt, Why am I getting bounce backs from you address? Please drop me a note when you have a sec. G From mhenry at crypticstudios.com Wed Feb 4 09:30:42 2009 From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:30:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Max Neuhaus Message-ID: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/features/6244833.html From ingalls at mills.edu Wed Feb 4 09:44:42 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:44:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Calling Matt Ingalls In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: dont know please send me the bounce? ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Robair, Gino [Gino.Robair at penton.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 5:51 PM To: New Music Subject: [NewMusic] Calling Matt Ingalls Hey Matt, Why am I getting bounce backs from you address? Please drop me a note when you have a sec. G _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Feb 4 09:46:36 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 09:46:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <700905.83218.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> damn, i got mentioned on gino's list...i can retire now. here's my top picks for 2008: favorite performances: 1) moe! solo at temescal arts center (holy cardboard box, batman!) 2) aurora with merce cunningham at zellerbach 3) roscoe mitchell and amiri baraka at victoria theater 4) fantomas' set on new year's eve at the great american 5) juana molina solo at the great american best live radio broadcast: 24 hour dronefest at KFJC favorite recordings: 1) fantomas: the director's cut 2) nadezhda voskaboynik - electronic music 3) messaien: organ improvisations live from radio france 4) the dillinger escape plan - miss machine 5) luigi nono - complete works for solo tape favorite film: 1) let the right one in favorite retro series: cinema japan (too many great films to mention) at pfa most enjoyable performing experience: gino robair, carl-ludwig hubsch, pg at bluesix best book experience: thomas pynchon's "against the day" best bacon-cheeseburger: lois the pie queen...and i can walk to it best all around place to eat in oakland: pho 84 finest concert promoter: suki o'kane and the illuminated corridor crew most loveable musician: liz allbee --- On Tue, 2/3/09, Robair, Gino wrote: > From: Robair, Gino > Subject: [NewMusic] Transbay 1op Ten, etc > To: "New Music" > Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 2:01 PM > It's a testament to the strength and breadth of the Bay > Area creative music > scene that there was so little overlap in this month's > Transbay Calendar Top > Ten 2008 lists. And, it's a similar sign that there > were folks from a number > of the local micro-scene's giving their lists -- so > many interesting shows > in 2008! > > For those of you doing the grunt work of putting out the > Transbay, I give > you a standing ovation this month with the additions of > "Greenlief @50 and > Crosley Bendix's End of Music. (Thanks, of course for > just doing this to > begin with.) > > I want only to add my own belated Top Eleven list --- The > Bay Areans that > consistently knocked me out in 2008, or at least during the > gigs or sessions > I saw them play in (in no particular order, mind you....) > > Konoko Nishi > > Liz Allbee > > John Shiurba > > Moe! Staiano > > Phillip Greenlief (esp. that Sacto gig with Aurora and > Carl-Ludwig > Huebusch!!!) > > Matthew Goodheart > > Kyle Bruckmann > > Kristin Miltner/Wobbly/Chris Brown (okay, it was a > short-lived trio in my > opera. But they killed. And individually they slay me as > well.) > > Ava Mendoza > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From aliciabyer at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 09:46:42 2009 From: aliciabyer at gmail.com (Alicia Byer) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 09:46:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] by the way, In-Reply-To: <768020.87022.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <768020.87022.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4989D482.7090602@gmail.com> thanks for the suggestions, guys.. I went to the wulf and alex cline's series and they were both really nice.. I'll check out resbox too. alicia Phillip Greenlief wrote: > good suggestion, matt - hans' series is one of the better things happening down there right now. we're also playing at [ open } in long beach, and at alex cline's series in eagle rock. i know matthew had a bad experience there, but i've played there a lot - and apart from the fact i never get paid well when i play there, it's a nice space and people come out to shows there. > > > > > --- On Thu, 1/29/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > > >> From: Matt Davignon >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] by the way, >> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" >> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 3:05 AM >> Why not check out Hans Fjellestad's ResBox series? Seems >> like they >> have a lot of good shows going on, and a lot of the good >> musicians I >> know down in LA have performed there at some point. >> http://www.steveallentheater.com/resbox >> >> Matt >> >> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 11:54 PM, Alicia Byer >> wrote: >> >>> I have recently defected to LA... I know, I know. >>> >>> Anybody have good suggestions on places to go out >>> >> here, people to meet? >> >>> write me off-list... >>> >>> alicia >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 14:24:37 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:24:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF Message-ID: Thanks to Ferrara Brain Pan for cluing me in: http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/ THURSDAY 23rd APRIL SAN FRANCISCO Grand Regency Ballroom 1290 Sutter St San Francisco, CA 94109 TG will play one 75 minute set of material from throughout their history. Admission: $30 Doors: TBC Promoters: Goldenvoice www.regencycentersf.com From wobbly at detritus.net Wed Feb 4 14:32:54 2009 From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly at detritus.net) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 14:32:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net> w/ Erika Anderson, opening! that's congratulations I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004. I was guardedly skeptical at the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end. Just tell me where I can buy tickets. -jl > Thanks to Ferrara Brain Pan for cluing me in: > > http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/ > > > THURSDAY 23rd APRIL > SAN FRANCISCO > Grand Regency Ballroom > 1290 Sutter St > San Francisco, CA 94109 > > TG will play one 75 minute set of material from throughout their history. > > Admission: $30 > Doors: TBC > Promoters: Goldenvoice > www.regencycentersf.com > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Feb 4 14:38:24 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2009 14:38:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF In-Reply-To: <84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net> Message-ID: Yay Erika! Promoter's site doesn't list tickets for the event yet ... sl on 2/4/09 2:32 PM, wobbly at detritus.net at wobbly at detritus.net wrote: > w/ Erika Anderson, opening! that's congratulations > > I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004. I was guardedly skeptical at > the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end. Just > tell me where I can buy tickets. > > -jl > > > > > >> Thanks to Ferrara Brain Pan for cluing me in: >> >> http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/ >> >> >> THURSDAY 23rd APRIL >> SAN FRANCISCO >> Grand Regency Ballroom >> 1290 Sutter St >> San Francisco, CA 94109 >> >> TG will play one 75 minute set of material from throughout their history. >> >> Admission: $30 >> Doors: TBC >> Promoters: Goldenvoice >> www.regencycentersf.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From barry.threw at gmail.com Wed Feb 4 16:51:40 2009 From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 16:51:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <015FF56F-D36C-4ED4-B43B-144107359076@gmail.com> Me: "You're opening for Throbbing Gristle?!" Erika: "How did you find that out?!" Heh. Cats out of the bag... One thing I can say with confidence is that her new material is definitely worth hearing multiple times. +1 Congratulations. bt ps mail problems, sorry if this is a dupe. On Feb 4, 2009, at 2:38 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > Yay Erika! Promoter's site doesn't list tickets for the event yet ... > > sl > > on 2/4/09 2:32 PM, wobbly at detritus.net at wobbly at detritus.net wrote: > >> w/ Erika Anderson, opening! that's congratulations >> >> I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004. I was guardedly >> skeptical at >> the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the >> end. Just >> tell me where I can buy tickets. >> >> -jl >> >> >> >> >> >>> Thanks to Ferrara Brain Pan for cluing me in: >>> >>> http://www.throbbing-gristle.com/ >>> >>> >>> THURSDAY 23rd APRIL >>> SAN FRANCISCO >>> Grand Regency Ballroom >>> 1290 Sutter St >>> San Francisco, CA 94109 >>> >>> TG will play one 75 minute set of material from throughout their >>> history. >>> >>> Admission: $30 >>> Doors: TBC >>> Promoters: Goldenvoice >>> www.regencycentersf.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Thu Feb 5 07:24:07 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 07:24:07 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] RIP Lux Interior Message-ID: <2eb068d40902050724w606582d6udc622ebb390f1343@mail.gmail.com> http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1604336/20090204/story.jhtml P. -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 6 10:41:28 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 12:41:28 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Mastering for multiple formats article Message-ID: Hey y'all, Wanted to share an article from out sister mag, Mix, for those of you contemplating LP and CD releases (as well as MP3 versions). This is from the POV of the engineers and is pretty interesting (and not overly jargony): http://mixonline.com/recording/mastering/from-lp-mp/ And if you're thinking of making vinyl (especially with electronic music), you might find this of interest: http://emusician.com/tutorials/mastering_vinyl/ Cheers, g From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 6 11:57:54 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 13:57:54 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Matt Ingalls, Message-ID: Still getting the notes from your bouncer.... From 21grand at 21grand.org Fri Feb 6 12:05:14 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:05:14 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Matt Ingalls, In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I sent an email to Weasel Walter yesterday and it went through just fine. Take it off list, please! sl on 2/6/09 11:57 AM, Robair, Gino at Gino.Robair at penton.com wrote: > Still getting the notes from your bouncer.... > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 6 14:00:26 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 16:00:26 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Matt Ingalls Message-ID: That's the problem, Sarah. This is the only way I've been able to contact him. I think we can spare the bandwidth (since the list is so quiet). I'll be the sausage of the day, no prob. From pamelaz at pamelaz.com Fri Feb 6 14:40:30 2009 From: pamelaz at pamelaz.com (Pamela Z) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 14:40:30 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Ashley Adams In-Reply-To: <873EE004-CFF6-4917-8D6E-29A7C012B1CE@matthewgoodheart.com> References: <873EE004-CFF6-4917-8D6E-29A7C012B1CE@matthewgoodheart.com> Message-ID: > Anybody know how to reach Ashley Adams these days? Email? Phone? -Pamela Pamela Z Composer/Performer pamelaz at pamelaz.com | 415 861 EARS (415 861 3277) | mobile: 415 5PAMELA (415 572 6352) | www.pamelaz.com (I forward my land line to my mobile so you can usually get me by dialing either one) http://www.pamelaz.com http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer follow me at http://twitter.com/pamelaz Skype: pamelazed iChat: pamelazdotcom (AIM) Snail Mail: Pamela Z Productions 540 Alabama Street Studio 213 San Francisco, CA 94110, USA shipping address (for packages larger than a 10" x 13" envelope): Pamela Z 2440 Sixteenth Street PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA Pamela Z's CD "A Delay is Better" on the Starkland label is now available at http://www.rhapsody.com/pamela-z/a-delay-is-better (mp3 download) http://cdbaby.com http://www.amazon.com, http://www.starkland.com, and coming soon to iTunes. ??? ????q `??o?q ?,u?? ?? ?? From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 6 16:13:18 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:13:18 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Fang Man's clarinet concerto video Message-ID: A short video about how she composed her clarinet concerto for the American Composer's Orchestra -- including a nice section with the clarinetist. Hopefully some of you will find it interesting... http://www.americancomposers.org/video/index.htm From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Feb 6 16:57:47 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:57:47 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] "Crisis sounds so cool" Message-ID: Another compositional model, using Songsmith. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BZfFakpzc From bradysharp at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 17:33:44 2009 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 17:33:44 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] "Crisis sounds so cool" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That's great. Thanks Gino. I've DL'd a demo of Songsmith. What a stupid, lame, and wonderful product. Along the lines of St. Sanders Shred stuff, is Henry Hey's music to political speeches. It's cool to hear how much more "accessibly musical" prepared stump speeches are than probing press questions: McCain and Palin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RQPeoyqyP4 Compared to Dubya: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22yd2efX9SY Brady On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > Another compositional model, using Songsmith. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-BZfFakpzc > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 18:31:46 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 18:31:46 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] more songsmith Message-ID: Bluegrass version of Billy Idol's "White Wedding" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCWo1qdTdE&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&playnext=1&index=7 "Creep" by radiohead (Some how this one seems really appropriate for the video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1GUk1SBmY&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=4 'alternative' version of "Heard it Through the Grapevine" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyYfTips5yc&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=6 Polka "crazy train" by ozzy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZvLprEIpw&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=9 From bradysharp at gmail.com Fri Feb 6 20:45:20 2009 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 22:45:20 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] more songsmith In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Those are all pretty sick, but the actual Microsoft commercial for SongSmith is worst of all. It makes you really want to claw your eyes and ears off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E Brilliant marketing folks, those guys... Brady On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Bluegrass version of Billy Idol's "White Wedding" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCWo1qdTdE&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&playnext=1&index=7 > > "Creep" by radiohead > (Some how this one seems really appropriate for the video) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1GUk1SBmY&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=4 > > 'alternative' version of "Heard it Through the Grapevine" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyYfTips5yc&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=6 > > Polka "crazy train" by ozzy > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZvLprEIpw&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=9 > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sat Feb 7 07:38:01 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 07:38:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] john lee in the house? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <174049.26717.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> can someone please send john lee's email to me? i've been loading performance dates on bay improviser, but they're not showing up. cheers, pg From ingalls at mills.edu Sat Feb 7 11:36:48 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 11:36:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] more songsmith In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: Songsmith, huh?.... well, my band has been saying my songs have been a little bland lately... Microsoft. Cool. ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Brady Sharp [bradysharp at gmail.com] Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:45 PM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] more songsmith Those are all pretty sick, but the actual Microsoft commercial for SongSmith is worst of all. It makes you really want to claw your eyes and ears off. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E Brilliant marketing folks, those guys... Brady On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 8:31 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Bluegrass version of Billy Idol's "White Wedding" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlCWo1qdTdE&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&playnext=1&index=7 > > "Creep" by radiohead > (Some how this one seems really appropriate for the video) > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JM1GUk1SBmY&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=4 > > 'alternative' version of "Heard it Through the Grapevine" > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyYfTips5yc&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=6 > > Polka "crazy train" by ozzy > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFZvLprEIpw&feature=PlayList&p=70CA4858AB98FBEC&index=9 > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sat Feb 7 15:11:38 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 15:11:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] shoko and kjell? (was john lee in the house?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <435292.7588.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thanks to raskin, michalak, and zellner for stepping up with john lee's info. he also wrote to me a few minutes after i posted my request. :) now i need more info: can someone forward an email address and or phone number for shoko hikage and kjell nordeson? my computer crashed a while back, and i'm still trying to put my address book together. you can email me off list at: pgsaxo at pacbell.net cheers, pg From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sat Feb 7 23:00:23 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 23:00:23 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] more songsmith In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DA1C7F6-13FC-46F5-B4E7-86004A6BC792@slambassador.com> > Microsoft. Cool. Seriously, MS could change the course of their company if they started adding that as a tag on all their marketing. Not necessarily predicting a change of course in their favor, but it sure as hell would stir things up. p From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Sun Feb 8 09:16:45 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 17:16:45 +0000 Subject: [NewMusic] more songsmith Message-ID: <1906289040-1234113406-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1769724781-@bxe331.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I think the mosquitos that Gates let loose at a convention is a better image changer. ------Original Message------ From: Peter Nyboer Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu To: newmusic at music.mills.edu ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Feb 7, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] more songsmith > Microsoft. Cool. Seriously, MS could change the course of their company if they started adding that as a tag on all their marketing. Not necessarily predicting a change of course in their favor, but it sure as hell would stir things up. p _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From matt at sfsound.org Sun Feb 8 16:22:29 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:22:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] borrow a drum? Message-ID: <0E7AB642-8E9E-4590-9A1C-41EB0139A71F@sfsound.org> anybody (preferably in east bay) have a snare and/or tom i could borrow for a couple of weeks to do some "research" for a "commission" i'm currently "working" on? thanks, m@ From shiurba at pacbell.net Sun Feb 8 21:13:35 2009 From: shiurba at pacbell.net (John Shiurba) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 21:13:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] NewMusic Digest, Vol 34, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6EC8A164-30DC-4DD0-9C85-9748B95C3558@pacbell.net> ma++ is your email down? please contact me or Gino On Feb 8, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > > 3. borrow a drum? (matt) > > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:22:29 -0800 > From: matt > Subject: [NewMusic] borrow a drum? > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > Message-ID: <0E7AB642-8E9E-4590-9A1C-41EB0139A71F at sfsound.org> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes > > anybody (preferably in east bay) have a snare and/or tom i could > borrow for a couple of weeks > to do some "research" for a "commission" i'm currently "working" on? > > thanks, > m@ > From td at pixar.com Sun Feb 8 22:04:47 2009 From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff) Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2009 22:04:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] borrow a drum? In-Reply-To: <0E7AB642-8E9E-4590-9A1C-41EB0139A71F@sfsound.org> References: <0E7AB642-8E9E-4590-9A1C-41EB0139A71F@sfsound.org> Message-ID: On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, matt wrote: > anybody (preferably in east bay) have a snare and/or tom i could borrow > for a couple of weeks to do some "research" for a "commission" i'm > currently "working" on? My wife has a Tom, but I don't think she'll lend him out. -- Tom Duff. A sack of doorknobs. From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Feb 9 11:44:10 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 11:44:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] borrow a drum? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <399341.25691.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have a snare and a tom someone could use. call me 510-653-8994 pg --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Tom Duff wrote: From: Tom Duff Subject: Re: [NewMusic] borrow a drum? To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 10:04 PM On Sun, 8 Feb 2009, matt wrote: > anybody (preferably in east bay) have a snare and/or tom i could borrow > for a couple of weeks to do some "research" for a "commission" i'm > currently "working" on? My wife has a Tom, but I don't think she'll lend him out. -- Tom Duff. A sack of doorknobs. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Feb 9 22:48:20 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 22:48:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] new series in so cal In-Reply-To: <6EC8A164-30DC-4DD0-9C85-9748B95C3558@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <720112.21865.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> hey bListers, i just got this email from anthony shadduck, a bassist that is playing on the LA scene, has worked with nels and many others...looks like he has a new series in southern california ... some of you may want to know about it. wow, alan cook is on the bill - i was playing with him and bobby bradford for a while...haven't heard from him in a minute! looks like there are other folks playing on the series that some folks up here have played with... cheers, pg Hello All, I have started a new creative music concert series that is coming to Orange County. Hope to see you there. Thanks, Anthony The Orange County Avant-garde Collective is happy? to annou?nce the line up of our "?Pearl?s Befor?e Swine?"? Conce?rt Serie?s. ? This serie?s is will be bring?ing top Creat?ive Music?ians to OC! www.myspace.com/ocavantgardejazzcollective All shows? are in the basem?ent of the Episc?opal Churc?h of the Messi?ah:? 614 N. Bush St. Santa? Ana, Calif?ornia? 92701? Time:? 6:?30pm Donat?ion:? $10 March? 15: Natha?n Hubba?rd/?Every?thing? After?:? Nina Deeri?ng - voice?,? Natha?n Hubba?rd - vibra?phone?,? scrib?bling?,? Justi?n Grinn?ell - acous?tic bass,? Jeane?tte Kanga?s - drumk?it,? percu?ssion?,? http:?/?/?www.? casto?randp?ollux?music?.? com/?nhea/? Trior?bits:? Paul Carma?n - woodw?inds,? Joel Hamil?ton -?contr?abass?,? Kenda?l Kay - drums? and percu?ssion?.? April? 19: Steua?rt Liebi?g Trio:? Alan Cook - drums?,? Dan Cluca?s - trump?et,? Steua?rt Liebi?g - bass www.stigsite.com Crepu?scule? Trio:? Alan Cook - drums?,? percu?ssion?,? Ken Kawam?ura - saxop?hones?,? Antho?ny Shadd?uck - contr?abass? www.virb.com/crepuscule May 24: Vinny? Golia? Group?:? TBA www.myspace.com/vinnygolia Otto/?Harne?ll Duo: Matt Otto - saxop?hones?,? elect?ronic?s,? and voice?,? Jason? Harne?ll - "?found? objec?t"? drums?et.? ottojazz.wordpress.com From ingalls at mills.edu Tue Feb 10 11:43:50 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:43:50 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] innauguration shreds Message-ID: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ka-sHA74N40 From highhorse at mhorse.com Tue Feb 10 11:48:44 2009 From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:48:44 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] new series in so cal In-Reply-To: <720112.21865.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <720112.21865.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4991DA1C.4060307@mhorse.com> hey Phillip, can you send this message again? It came through scrambled...and I'm very interested. thanks, Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From michaelz at zoka.com Tue Feb 10 12:16:37 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:16:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] new series in so cal In-Reply-To: <4991DA1C.4060307@mhorse.com> References: <720112.21865.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4991DA1C.4060307@mhorse.com> Message-ID: On 2/10/09, Daryl Shawn wrote: >hey Phillip, can you send this message again? It came through >scrambled...and I'm very interested. FYI, you can almost always see these "corrupt" messages in readable form at the list archive: Phillip's is here: MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From highhorse at mhorse.com Tue Feb 10 12:21:05 2009 From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:21:05 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] new series in so cal In-Reply-To: References: <720112.21865.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4991DA1C.4060307@mhorse.com> Message-ID: <4991E1B1.7070306@mhorse.com> Oh, lovely. thanks Michael! Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com >> hey Phillip, can you send this message again? It came through >> scrambled...and I'm very interested. >> > > FYI, you can almost always see these "corrupt" messages in readable > form at the list archive: > > > > Phillip's is here: > > > > MZ From michaelz at zoka.com Tue Feb 10 12:23:46 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:23:46 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: References: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> Message-ID: On 2/3/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. They've been very >friendly to us. In case you missed this news: >Mission residents reject American Apparel MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From letucepry at yahoo.com Tue Feb 10 12:28:06 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 12:28:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door References: <20090203.162010.3156.78.weaselw@juno.com> <66a1eec8517675f91c94ff062c099996.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> Message-ID: <103359.82510.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Irony, thy name is San Francisco... They pay their workers more, they have a health plan and they opposed Prop. 8. ________________________________ From: Michael Zelner To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:23:46 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door On 2/3/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. They've been very >friendly to us. In case you missed this news: >Mission residents reject American Apparel MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 10 13:46:30 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <103359.82510.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> another uninformed writer scribbling away on the topic of san francisco, culture and economics. this piece says nothing about the fact that the owner of the chain has rough sex with ALL of his female models (before during and after the photo shoots, which the owner does himself...but hey - diy), and that the chain has a creepy reputation. over and over again, that's the one of the central complaints that i hear waged against american apparel. pg --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: > From: Ron Lettuce > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 12:28 PM > Irony, thy name is San Francisco... > > They pay their workers more, they have a health plan and > they opposed Prop. 8. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Zelner > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:23:46 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel > from moving next door > > On 2/3/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > > >ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. > They've been very > >friendly to us. > > > In case you missed this news: > > >Mission residents reject American Apparel > > > > MZ > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Tue Feb 10 13:50:39 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:50:39 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I hadn't heard the "rough" portion of that rumor. Has all that been confirmed? It seems possible but it could also be an urban legend. On Feb 10, 2009, at 1:46 PM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > another uninformed writer scribbling away on the topic of san > francisco, culture and economics. > > this piece says nothing about the fact that the owner of the chain > has rough sex with ALL of his female models (before during and > after the photo shoots, which the owner does himself...but hey - > diy), and that the chain has a creepy reputation. over and over > again, that's the one of the central complaints that i hear waged > against american apparel. Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From 21grand at 21grand.org Tue Feb 10 13:56:17 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:56:17 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think the issue was basically, wrong location. I doubt as many people would have had a problem if they'd picked a storefront the next street over on Mission. Congrats to ATA and everyone who made the effort which paid off. sl on 2/10/09 1:46 PM, Phillip Greenlief at pgsaxo at pacbell.net wrote: > another uninformed writer scribbling away on the topic of san francisco, > culture and economics. > > this piece says nothing about the fact that the owner of the chain has rough > sex with ALL of his female models (before during and after the photo shoots, > which the owner does himself...but hey - diy), and that the chain has a creepy > reputation. over and over again, that's the one of the central complaints that > i hear waged against american apparel. > > pg > > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: > >> From: Ron Lettuce >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next >> door >> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" >> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 12:28 PM >> Irony, thy name is San Francisco... >> >> They pay their workers more, they have a health plan and >> they opposed Prop. 8. >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Michael Zelner >> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:23:46 PM >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel >> from moving next door >> >> On 2/3/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >> >>> ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. >> They've been very >>> friendly to us. >> >> >> In case you missed this news: >> >>> Mission residents reject American Apparel >> >> >> >> MZ >> >> --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- >> ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner >> ---Oakland CA USA------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From letucepry at yahoo.com Tue Feb 10 14:23:48 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:23:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door References: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <498029.61151.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> really? there's fodder for me to argue against the place? I'll have to look into this... you shouldn't encourage me to be so cynical... I never looked into it, basically because there isn't a thing in the entire store that I would buy, it's all really flimsy and nothing in there looks good on fat people...(my usual response to friends telling me that was a "good" company was always "great, a socially aware company that makes absolutely nothing that I want") lettuce ________________________________ From: Phillip Greenlief To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 1:46:30 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door another uninformed writer scribbling away on the topic of san francisco, culture and economics. this piece says nothing about the fact that the owner of the chain has rough sex with ALL of his female models (before during and after the photo shoots, which the owner does himself...but hey - diy), and that the chain has a creepy reputation. over and over again, that's the one of the central complaints that i hear waged against american apparel. pg --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: > From: Ron Lettuce > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 12:28 PM > Irony, thy name is San Francisco... > > They pay their workers more, they have a health plan and > they opposed Prop. 8. > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Zelner > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 12:23:46 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel > from moving next door > > On 2/3/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > > >ATA's an important venue for bay area weird music. > They've been very > >friendly to us. > > > In case you missed this news: > > >Mission residents reject American Apparel > > > > MZ > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 10 14:35:24 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:35:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <498029.61151.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <54755.79171.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <498029.61151.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Here's an article from the onion about the thing with the models: http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed Kind of funny, since the print version of the Onion always has a big American Apparel ad on the back. I always thought the AA ads looked suspiciously like child pornography. So much that I often fold my Onion in a creative fashion. (The same fashion that I fold my SF Weekly to hide the ho pages when reading savage love.) From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 10 14:40:22 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:40:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <512954.14010.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> when raskin sent this article to me, i read the headlines and the first paragraph and thought it funny. then i read more of the article and it seemed too much like the other pieces i read. the onion has a way of distorting the "truth" just enough (but usually way over the top) to make it funny. i don't find this article funny. it seems too close to the truth (i forgot to mention in my earlier note that the women are often offered drugs on the photo shoots...again, i don't have a big problem with drug use, but...still, this creeps me out). pg --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:35 PM > Here's an article from the onion about the thing with > the models: > > http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed > > Kind of funny, since the print version of the Onion always > has a big > American Apparel ad on the back. I always thought the AA > ads looked > suspiciously like child pornography. So much that I often > fold my > Onion in a creative fashion. (The same fashion that I fold > my SF > Weekly to hide the ho pages when reading savage love.) > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From tbickley at metatronpress.com Tue Feb 10 14:45:25 2009 From: tbickley at metatronpress.com (Tom Bickley) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:45:25 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <512954.14010.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <512954.14010.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <068EE16F-941D-46FF-8ADC-C20144A4061B@metatronpress.com> So I suppose American Apparel is more Aldous Huxley's worker's "paradise" than Karl Marx's? -Tom On Feb 10, 2009, at 2:40 PM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > when raskin sent this article to me, i read the headlines and the > first paragraph and thought it funny. > > then i read more of the article and it seemed too much like the > other pieces i read. the onion has a way of distorting the "truth" > just enough (but usually way over the top) to make it funny. i > don't find this article funny. it seems too close to the truth (i > forgot to mention in my earlier note that the women are often > offered drugs on the photo shoots...again, i don't have a big > problem with drug use, but...still, this creeps me out). > > pg > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> From: Matt Davignon >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from >> moving next door >> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" >> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:35 PM >> Here's an article from the onion about the thing with >> the models: >> >> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed >> >> Kind of funny, since the print version of the Onion always >> has a big >> American Apparel ad on the back. I always thought the AA >> ads looked >> suspiciously like child pornography. So much that I often >> fold my >> Onion in a creative fashion. (The same fashion that I fold >> my SF >> Weekly to hide the ho pages when reading savage love.) >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Tue Feb 10 15:19:17 2009 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:19:17 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from moving next door In-Reply-To: <512954.14010.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <512954.14010.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4351E2C5-796D-4C1F-B8F5-368267C103D4@matthewgoodheart.com> > (i forgot to mention in my earlier note that the women are often > offered drugs on the photo shoots...again, i don't have a big > problem with drug use, but...still, this creeps me out). Don't really know much about this, but from what I've read it's not about the drugs or sex, it's about the abuse of power. . . http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/05_26/b3939108_mz017.htm mg > pg > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> From: Matt Davignon >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: Help ATA stop American Apparel from >> moving next door >> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" >> Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:35 PM >> Here's an article from the onion about the thing with >> the models: >> >> http://www.theonion.com/content/news/14_american_apparel_models_freed >> >> Kind of funny, since the print version of the Onion always >> has a big >> American Apparel ad on the back. I always thought the AA >> ads looked >> suspiciously like child pornography. So much that I often >> fold my >> Onion in a creative fashion. (The same fashion that I fold >> my SF >> Weekly to hide the ho pages when reading savage love.) >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Feb 11 01:31:56 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: <20090129.182555.3780.305.weaselw@juno.com> Message-ID: <852609.63276.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey! Do you want to join us on the large ensemble concert at the uptown next week? I'm sorry I didn't ask you sooner. I completely spaced the percussion stuff... Here are the details, let me know if you can fly with us. Cheers, PG Hi friends, The rehearsal for my large ensemble concert will be this sunday at 21 grand from 3 - 5 pm. We are going to have to squeeze into the green room, as there will be a closing day event happening. Here is the outline for the rehearsal: Compound #1 - (with cardew) Compound #2 - (with cardew) M - (with cardew) Oakland (Map Series) Fantasy for Electronics and Orchestra As you can see, the pieces with voices will be first on the agenda. All of the pieces will include the vocal "soloists" (Aurora and Val Esway). Individuals from Cardew that want to join us for "Oakland", please feel free. I have revised the Compound pieces for the new lineup. I will be putting those in the mail tomorrow for those who requested a copy of the score. The concert will be at The Uptown (Telegraph & 19th Streets, Oakland) on Tuesday, February 17th - we will go on sometime around 10pm. Looking forward, Phillip Here are the members of OrcheSperry that I have confirmed (i know some of you can't make the rehearsal): Aurora - voice Kyle Bruckmann - oboe Polly Moller - flute, bass flute Scott Rosenberg - flute, Eb clarinet Ma++ ingalls - clarinet Aram shelton - bass clarinet Cory Wright - bass clarinet Jon Raskin - alto saxophone David Boyce - tenor saxophone Tom Djll - trumpet Darren Johnston - trumpet Ron Heglin - trombone Andy Strain - trombone Tara Flandreau - violin Marielle Jakobson - violin Doug Carroll - cello Ann Dentel - cello Lisa Mezzacappa - bass Damon Smith - bass Ava Mendoza - electric guitar Kristin Miltner - electronics Tim Perkis - electronics Matt Davignon - turntable Gino Robair - percussion Weasel Walter - percussion The Cardew Choir From mattdavignon at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:09:24 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:09:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: <852609.63276.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20090129.182555.3780.305.weaselw@juno.com> <852609.63276.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hi Phillip, Who is this email addressed to? And what's this about a "closing day" event at 21 Grand? Phillip Greenlief was like: > > Hey! > > Do you want to join us on the large ensemble concert at the uptown next week? I'm sorry I didn't ask you sooner. I completely spaced the percussion stuff... > > Here are the details, let me know if you can fly with us. > > Cheers, > PG > > Hi friends, > > The rehearsal for my large ensemble concert will be this sunday at 21 grand from 3 - 5 pm. We are going to have to squeeze into the green room, as there will be a closing day event happening. > > Here is the outline for the rehearsal: > > Compound #1 - (with cardew) > Compound #2 - (with cardew) > M - (with cardew) > Oakland (Map Series) > Fantasy for Electronics and Orchestra > > As you can see, the pieces with voices will be first on the agenda. All of the pieces will include the vocal "soloists" (Aurora and Val Esway). Individuals from Cardew that want to join us for "Oakland", please feel free. > > I have revised the Compound pieces for the new lineup. I will be putting those in the mail tomorrow for those who requested a copy of the score. > > The concert will be at The Uptown (Telegraph & 19th Streets, Oakland) on Tuesday, February 17th - we will go on sometime around 10pm. > > Looking forward, > Phillip > > Here are the members of OrcheSperry that I have confirmed (i know some of you can't make the rehearsal): > Aurora - voice > Kyle Bruckmann - oboe > Polly Moller - flute, bass flute > Scott Rosenberg - flute, Eb clarinet > Ma++ ingalls - clarinet > Aram shelton - bass clarinet > Cory Wright - bass clarinet > Jon Raskin - alto saxophone > David Boyce - tenor saxophone > Tom Djll - trumpet > Darren Johnston - trumpet > Ron Heglin - trombone > Andy Strain - trombone > Tara Flandreau - violin > Marielle Jakobson - violin > Doug Carroll - cello > Ann Dentel - cello > Lisa Mezzacappa - bass > Damon Smith - bass > Ava Mendoza - electric guitar > Kristin Miltner - electronics > Tim Perkis - electronics > Matt Davignon - turntable > Gino Robair - percussion > Weasel Walter - percussion > > The Cardew Choir > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Feb 11 11:15:37 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:15:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "closing day" merely refers to the last day of the art show currently up in the gallery. It's work by Sudhu Tewari (whom some of you know) and Michael Schippling. sl on 2/11/09 11:09 AM, Matt Davignon at mattdavignon at gmail.com wrote: > Hi Phillip, > > Who is this email addressed to? > > And what's this about a "closing day" event at 21 Grand? > > Phillip Greenlief was like: >> >> Hey! >> >> Do you want to join us on the large ensemble concert at the uptown next week? >> I'm sorry I didn't ask you sooner. I completely spaced the percussion >> stuff... >> >> Here are the details, let me know if you can fly with us. >> >> Cheers, >> PG >> >> Hi friends, >> >> The rehearsal for my large ensemble concert will be this sunday at 21 grand >> from 3 - 5 pm. We are going to have to squeeze into the green room, as there >> will be a closing day event happening. >> >> Here is the outline for the rehearsal: >> >> Compound #1 - (with cardew) >> Compound #2 - (with cardew) >> M - (with cardew) >> Oakland (Map Series) >> Fantasy for Electronics and Orchestra >> >> As you can see, the pieces with voices will be first on the agenda. All of >> the pieces will include the vocal "soloists" (Aurora and Val Esway). >> Individuals from Cardew that want to join us for "Oakland", please feel free. >> >> I have revised the Compound pieces for the new lineup. I will be putting >> those in the mail tomorrow for those who requested a copy of the score. >> >> The concert will be at The Uptown (Telegraph & 19th Streets, Oakland) on >> Tuesday, February 17th - we will go on sometime around 10pm. >> >> Looking forward, >> Phillip >> >> Here are the members of OrcheSperry that I have confirmed (i know some of you >> can't make the rehearsal): >> Aurora - voice >> Kyle Bruckmann - oboe >> Polly Moller - flute, bass flute >> Scott Rosenberg - flute, Eb clarinet >> Ma++ ingalls - clarinet >> Aram shelton - bass clarinet >> Cory Wright - bass clarinet >> Jon Raskin - alto saxophone >> David Boyce - tenor saxophone >> Tom Djll - trumpet >> Darren Johnston - trumpet >> Ron Heglin - trombone >> Andy Strain - trombone >> Tara Flandreau - violin >> Marielle Jakobson - violin >> Doug Carroll - cello >> Ann Dentel - cello >> Lisa Mezzacappa - bass >> Damon Smith - bass >> Ava Mendoza - electric guitar >> Kristin Miltner - electronics >> Tim Perkis - electronics >> Matt Davignon - turntable >> Gino Robair - percussion >> Weasel Walter - percussion >> >> The Cardew Choir >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Wed Feb 11 11:18:28 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 11:18:28 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sorry - I forgot that exhibits can have 'closing day' events. On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > "closing day" merely refers to the last day of the art show currently up in > the gallery. It's work by Sudhu Tewari (whom some of you know) and Michael > Schippling. > > sl > From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Wed Feb 11 20:41:01 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2009 20:41:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <971464.87503.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It was a mistake...I sent another email immediately afterward apologizing for sending it...it was meant to go to Weasel's personal email, not the list. The "closing day" thing at 21 Grand is merely the closing of an art exhibit...not 21 Grand proper... <3 phillip --- On Wed, 2/11/09, Matt Davignon wrote: > From: Matt Davignon > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Wednesday, February 11, 2009, 11:09 AM > Hi Phillip, > > Who is this email addressed to? > > And what's this about a "closing day" event > at 21 Grand? > > Phillip Greenlief was like: > > > > Hey! > > > > Do you want to join us on the large ensemble concert > at the uptown next week? I'm sorry I didn't ask you > sooner. I completely spaced the percussion stuff... > > > > Here are the details, let me know if you can fly with > us. > > > > Cheers, > > PG > > > > Hi friends, > > > > The rehearsal for my large ensemble concert will be > this sunday at 21 grand from 3 - 5 pm. We are going to have > to squeeze into the green room, as there will be a closing > day event happening. > > > > Here is the outline for the rehearsal: > > > > Compound #1 - (with cardew) > > Compound #2 - (with cardew) > > M - (with cardew) > > Oakland (Map Series) > > Fantasy for Electronics and Orchestra > > > > As you can see, the pieces with voices will be first > on the agenda. All of the pieces will include the vocal > "soloists" (Aurora and Val Esway). Individuals > from Cardew that want to join us for "Oakland", > please feel free. > > > > I have revised the Compound pieces for the new lineup. > I will be putting those in the mail tomorrow for those who > requested a copy of the score. > > > > The concert will be at The Uptown (Telegraph & > 19th Streets, Oakland) on Tuesday, February 17th - we will > go on sometime around 10pm. > > > > Looking forward, > > Phillip > > > > Here are the members of OrcheSperry that I have > confirmed (i know some of you can't make the rehearsal): > > Aurora - voice > > Kyle Bruckmann - oboe > > Polly Moller - flute, bass flute > > Scott Rosenberg - flute, Eb clarinet > > Ma++ ingalls - clarinet > > Aram shelton - bass clarinet > > Cory Wright - bass clarinet > > Jon Raskin - alto saxophone > > David Boyce - tenor saxophone > > Tom Djll - trumpet > > Darren Johnston - trumpet > > Ron Heglin - trombone > > Andy Strain - trombone > > Tara Flandreau - violin > > Marielle Jakobson - violin > > Doug Carroll - cello > > Ann Dentel - cello > > Lisa Mezzacappa - bass > > Damon Smith - bass > > Ava Mendoza - electric guitar > > Kristin Miltner - electronics > > Tim Perkis - electronics > > Matt Davignon - turntable > > Gino Robair - percussion > > Weasel Walter - percussion > > > > The Cardew Choir > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From djcypod at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 14:36:54 2009 From: djcypod at gmail.com (beau) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 14:36:54 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] one of the worst writeups i've ever seen In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I liked SonicVision. Go early and look around at the exhibits. Then see a pretty neat CG show set to some familiar, but enjoyable music. After that spend some time looking at the stars through the various large telescopes. And to top it all of free Fentons ice cream coupons on the backside of each ticket. Not bad for $8! On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:51 AM, Suki O'Kane wrote: > It may return, economy be damned. David (who is MISTER Merlin > Coleman) Bloom, the Exhibits Project Manager up there has been > fomenting. > > My recollection is that Chabot's astronomers, and the people who hang > out with them, are a very receptive audience to creative new music, > even when it's laid down Kaiser-stylee. The next circle of > participants (visitors and members), dunno, but word is that the > public have already consumed and excreted the 38 minute SonicVision > installation > (http://www.chabotspace.org/visit/shows.aspx?v=a#Sonic%20Vision ). > > Now would be the time to propose a diverse program. I bet it would > get a write-up. > -s > > At 1:24 PM +0000 1/30/09, Jon Raskin wrote: >>I stand corrected. It was Henry kaiser that curated the series and >>he keeps the art/ science connection alive with his Antarctica >>experience. >> >>------Original Message------ >>From: Michael Zelner >>Sent: Jan 30, 2009 12:09 AM >> >>On 1/30/09, Jon Raskin wrote: >> >>>That reminds me of the Doctor Science shows at the old Chabot >>>observatory in Oakland. Dr Science >> >>That was MISTER Science, Kingsley Wightman: >> >> >> >>> would do a since lecture that was entertaining and informative >>>followed by an set of music featuring many improv group in the >>>planetarium while he ran the celestial cameras. >> >>Yep, I have fond memories of a few of those. >>Henry Kaiser (who, as an Oakland lad, saw Kingsley's demos at Chabot) >>organized the music. >> >>Someone should start up that series again at the new Chabot. . . >> > > -- > > suki o'kane > mailto:suki at zoka.com > http://www.myspace.com/sukiokane > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From mattdavignon at gmail.com Thu Feb 12 21:29:40 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 21:29:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] VoxMaids Message-ID: Any time a band is coming to play at the Luggage Store, and they're bringing in bells and rainsticks and talking about how they're going to sing songs about religion (that is, pro or con any religion), I usually have more than a few danger-will-robinsons going off in my head. So, for the second time tonight, I'm happily surprised by the quality of what the Voxmaids does. They actually put on a great show of uh...Wiccan-themed music. The first 10 minutes or so involved shaken bells, thumb pianos, 'natural' white noises, gurgling bathtub sounds and pretty harmonic singing. Right now, it's more of a transitional acoustic droney thing with cowbells, didgeridoo and am radio-style synthesizer. Sounds a little funny, yes, but both times they've played here they've put together an evening of music that I can just listen to and enjoy, with the right combination of weirdness and song. Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Sat Feb 14 13:07:55 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:07:55 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Solo and Duo for Bertram Turezky's Birthday Message-ID: The great Maestro of the Contrabass turns 76 today. I made a little solo for him here: http://myspace.com/damonsmithsolo And our new duo album hit emusic just this morning: http://www.emusic.com/album/Bertram-Turetzky-Thoughtbeetle-MP3- Download/11384526.html Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From ingalls at mills.edu Sat Feb 14 21:36:51 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:36:51 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] something positive from the meltdown Message-ID: Muzak, inc. has filed for bankruptcy. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/business/11muzak.html?ref=music From letucepry at yahoo.com Sat Feb 14 21:41:19 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2009 21:41:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] something positive from the meltdown References: Message-ID: <598920.29240.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> You are mistaken, Matt, that is not positive, that is Chapter 11 bankrupcy "protection" which allows them to stay in business while restructuring some of their debts...'tis merely a flesh wound... lettuce ________________________________ From: Matt Ingalls To: "newmusic at mills.edu" Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2009 9:36:51 PM Subject: [NewMusic] something positive from the meltdown Muzak, inc. has filed for bankruptcy. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/11/business/11muzak.html?ref=music _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Feb 15 11:51:40 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 11:51:40 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New Music @ Soja - Feb. 13 Message-ID: Some snapshots from Friday's concert: MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Feb 15 12:33:00 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:33:00 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF In-Reply-To: <84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net> References: <84020c04e1480ad15d5630441b7e2848.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net> Message-ID: On 2/4/09, wobbly at detritus.net wrote: >w/ Erika Anderson, opening! that's congratulations > >I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004. I was guardedly skeptical at >the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end. Just >tell me where I can buy tickets. Tickets on sale 10am today: Unfortunately, the venue has no box office for advance ticket sales. So the exorbitant service charges are unavoidable, it seems. More show info: MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From 21grand at 21grand.org Sun Feb 15 12:42:04 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:42:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Throbbing Gristle in SF In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Not sold out yet! sl on 2/15/09 12:33 PM, Michael Zelner at michaelz at zoka.com wrote: > On 2/4/09, wobbly at detritus.net wrote: > >> w/ Erika Anderson, opening! that's congratulations >> >> I saw TG in London at the Astoria in 2004. I was guardedly skeptical at >> the beginning of the show, and completely out of my head by the end. Just >> tell me where I can buy tickets. > > Tickets on sale 10am today: > > > > Unfortunately, the venue has no box office for advance ticket sales. > So the exorbitant service charges are unavoidable, it seems. > > More show info: > > > MZ > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From ingalls at mills.edu Sun Feb 15 14:40:50 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:40:50 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] now need bass drum! Message-ID: thanks to all who responded to my request to borrow a drum to play around with! NOW it comes to our attention that Le Quan Ninh (who will be playing a Duo set with Michel Doneda on the upcoming sfSoundMicroFestival Feb 28th) is only bringing drum heads and not the frame and needs to borrow a 22" double-sided bass drum. anybody out there happen to have one that size they would be willing to lend him? THANKS! From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Feb 16 00:17:51 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 00:17:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] now need bass drum! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <947319.43436.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> sorry...mine's 18"...let me know if you need one that size. pg --- On Sun, 2/15/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: > From: Matt Ingalls > Subject: [NewMusic] now need bass drum! > To: "newmusic at mills.edu" > Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 2:40 PM > thanks to all who responded to my request to borrow a drum > to play around with! > > NOW it comes to our attention that Le Quan Ninh (who will > be playing a Duo set with Michel Doneda on the upcoming > sfSoundMicroFestival Feb 28th) is only bringing drum heads > and not the frame and needs to borrow a 22" > double-sided bass drum. anybody out there happen to have > one that size they would be willing to lend him? > > THANKS! > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From decker at resipiscent.com Mon Feb 16 10:02:18 2009 From: decker at resipiscent.com (decker) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:02:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] TG feemaster Message-ID: Warfield box office is selling TG tickets Sundays 10-4pm according Golden Voice productions. Whether warfield charges ticketmaster fees is unknown, ticketmaster retail outlets (Macy's, Ritmo Latino) DO NOT waive fees but Warfield is not listed as a ticketmaster retail outlet so maybe they function like the Fillmore box office on no-fee sundays. Glad to see BoH, GAMH, and Slim's have all started offering online ticket sales at minimal fees. Looks like brownpapertickets.com model may finally be spreading. Slim's still charges a fee when you come to their box office window, a "technology fee" I was told. Apparently glass is considered a technology. Death to FeeMaster. From highhorse at mhorse.com Mon Feb 16 11:34:27 2009 From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:34:27 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Streaming income In-Reply-To: <494D3B70.1090602@mhorse.com> References: <20081218405139AMUNIQUEID@1234567890-1234> <52E82CBD-E119-4D37-A614-EDE5218394F6@sonic.net> <76df99600812191526t557754nd3ec5aa44e32b13@mail.gmail.com> <494D2E69.4040309@mhorse.com> <494D31E5.9070001@mhorse.com> <494D3B70.1090602@mhorse.com> Message-ID: <4999BFC3.2080805@mhorse.com> A few months ago, I posted about my plan to let one of my tunes posted on a streaming service (Rhapsdy) repeat overnight every day, as an experiment to see if I would receive income from it. I finally got the royalties for that time period and...well...it worked! I received one penny for each listen (which ended up being 4000 plays, for my one-minute tune). The $40 I made covers the cost of posting the album in the first place, plus my monthly fee for being a listener. I do stream other people's music about 8 hours a day, so I'm definitely spreading some income around to other peeps as well. I plan to continue my experiments - will I get cut off at some point? Will this loophole be discovered and closed up? I'm keeping it kinda "quiet" (as if that's really possible anymore), but wanted to share it here. feel free to email me offlist if you have any questions about how I set it up... Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Feb 16 14:39:50 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 14:39:50 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] gene baker in the house? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <875716.19935.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> can someone send gene baker's email and/or phone number my way? thanks! pg From djll at sonic.net Mon Feb 16 20:31:47 2009 From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:31:47 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Told you so Message-ID: <5386FC78-0885-46F6-BEEA-B5DDD4050E7B@sonic.net> So Tatsuya Nakatani and Michel Doneda played at 1510 8th St. last night and, as I predicted, they made "a profound sound that is not to be missed!" It was a nice crowd, too -- some new faces who were definitely converted afterwards. It was the best set I've seen in several years here in the Bay Area. And, as everyone knows, I've attended least *three* gigs in the last several years. Tom Djll 227 Otis St. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 429-8072 home (831) 423-3050 office (831) 320-1489 cell djll at sonic.net tom at mythmaker.com www.mythmaker.com Music, calendar, & bio: http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll More music w/sound snippets: http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Feb 16 20:59:09 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:59:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Told you so In-Reply-To: <5386FC78-0885-46F6-BEEA-B5DDD4050E7B@sonic.net> References: <5386FC78-0885-46F6-BEEA-B5DDD4050E7B@sonic.net> Message-ID: <3F389915-71D4-4FE2-BD50-20CF08079DCF@balancepointacoustics.com> Friday's show was really good, too. Doneda/Dryer/Heule was really strong and so were the other sets. On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Dill wrote: > So Tatsuya Nakatani and Michel Doneda played at 1510 8th St. last > night and, as I predicted, they made "a profound sound that is not to > be missed!" > > It was a nice crowd, too -- some new faces who were definitely > converted afterwards. > > It was the best set I've seen in several years here in the Bay Area. > And, as everyone knows, I've attended least *three* gigs in the last > several years. > > Tom Djll > 227 Otis St. > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > (831) 429-8072 home > (831) 423-3050 office > (831) 320-1489 cell > djll at sonic.net > tom at mythmaker.com > www.mythmaker.com > > Music, calendar, & bio: > http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll > > More music w/sound snippets: > http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer > > Photography: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From djll at sonic.net Mon Feb 16 21:09:20 2009 From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill) Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 21:09:20 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Told you so In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9AD65195-DCD0-4465-9719-5820A748E88A@sonic.net> Michel really enjoyed playing with Jacob and Tony, by the way, describing in great detail and enthusiasm their sensitivity. And he was totally impressed with the printed Transbay Calendar. Both he and Tatsuya said, "You would never see this kind of thing [community] on the East Coast! In New York they'd say, "So, you play saxophone? Great!" [Then miming act of stabbing saxophonist in the back.] Appreciate what you got right here at home, folks... td On Feb 16, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > Message: 6 > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 20:59:09 -0800 > From: Damon Smith > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Told you so > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Message-ID: > <3F389915-71D4-4FE2-BD50-20CF08079DCF at balancepointacoustics.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Friday's show was really good, too. Doneda/Dryer/Heule was really > strong and so were the other sets. > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Dill wrote: > >> So Tatsuya Nakatani and Michel Doneda played at 1510 8th St. last >> night and, as I predicted, they made "a profound sound that is not >> to >> be missed!" >> >> It was a nice crowd, too -- some new faces who were definitely >> converted afterwards. >> >> It was the best set I've seen in several years here in the Bay Area. >> And, as everyone knows, I've attended least *three* gigs in the last >> several years. > Tom Djll 227 Otis St. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 429-8072 home (831) 423-3050 office (831) 320-1489 cell djll at sonic.net tom at mythmaker.com www.mythmaker.com Music, calendar, & bio: http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll More music w/sound snippets: http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 01:22:17 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 01:22:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Told you so In-Reply-To: <3F389915-71D4-4FE2-BD50-20CF08079DCF@balancepointacoustics.com> Message-ID: <861943.27443.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> the duo set at 1510 was sublime. i really enjoyed it. i had a good time playing, too! --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Damon Smith wrote: > From: Damon Smith > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Told you so > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 8:59 PM > Friday's show was really good, too. Doneda/Dryer/Heule > was really > strong and so were the other sets. > > On Feb 16, 2009, at 8:31 PM, Tom Dill wrote: > > > So Tatsuya Nakatani and Michel Doneda played at 1510 > 8th St. last > > night and, as I predicted, they made "a profound > sound that is not to > > be missed!" > > > > It was a nice crowd, too -- some new faces who were > definitely > > converted afterwards. > > > > It was the best set I've seen in several years > here in the Bay Area. > > And, as everyone knows, I've attended least > *three* gigs in the last > > several years. > > > > Tom Djll > > 227 Otis St. > > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > > (831) 429-8072 home > > (831) 423-3050 office > > (831) 320-1489 cell > > djll at sonic.net > > tom at mythmaker.com > > www.mythmaker.com > > > > Music, calendar, & bio: > > http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll > > > > More music w/sound snippets: > > http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer > > > > Photography: > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 17 10:02:18 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:02:18 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] SIGGRAPH deadline tomorrow Message-ID: FYI, for those of you who know what that acronym means: > This is a reminder that SIGGRAPH 2009, a major international conference > attended by some 20 - 25,000 people, has a call for Visual Music films and > for interactive musical performances this year. The deadline for submissions > (online) of music works is tomorrow, 2/18 and for Visual Music animations is > Wed, March 4th. We hope to present a broad range of works in both these > categories at the Conference in August in New Orleans. > > > > Submission information is available here. > http://www.siggraph.org/s2009/submissions/index.php > > From Gino.Robair at penton.com Tue Feb 17 10:50:54 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 12:50:54 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! Message-ID: Good news for Scott! http://www.oebs.org/vistas.htm From ingalls at mills.edu Tue Feb 17 13:51:49 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:51:49 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: i thought he moved to nyc? ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Robair, Gino [Gino.Robair at penton.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:50 AM To: New Music Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! Good news for Scott! http://www.oebs.org/vistas.htm _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From 21grand at 21grand.org Tue Feb 17 14:01:12 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:01:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No he didn't, but I will remember that line ...useful, interesting connotations. sl on 2/17/09 1:51 PM, Matt Ingalls at ingalls at mills.edu wrote: > > i thought he moved to nyc? > From ingalls at mills.edu Tue Feb 17 14:06:39 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:06:39 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or is it just me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those "jazz background" improv cats were all over the transbay, beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- don't think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least 5 years. -m p.s. i applied for that commission too! boohoo ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand [21grand at 21grand.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:01 PM To: Banewmus List Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! No he didn't, but I will remember that line ...useful, interesting connotations. sl on 2/17/09 1:51 PM, Matt Ingalls at ingalls at mills.edu wrote: > > i thought he moved to nyc? > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 14:51:38 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 14:51:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <184461.82203.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> nope, he lives in rockridge... he and his wife are expecting their second child...this is a nice surprise for them in addition to the new arrival. pg --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: > From: Matt Ingalls > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 1:51 PM > i thought he moved to nyc? > > ________________________________________ > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Robair, Gino > [Gino.Robair at penton.com] > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 10:50 AM > To: New Music > Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! > > Good news for Scott! > http://www.oebs.org/vistas.htm > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Feb 17 15:21:42 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:21:42 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] what not to name your band... Message-ID: ...if your fans ride bicycles, like to put bumper stickers on their bikes and need to chain them up at the airport: http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/021609_Sticker_Causes_Memphis_Airport_Scare I know it's easy to blame the cops on this one, but come on! Matt Davignon (lead drummachinist for "This backpack appears to contain a laptop when placed on an xray machine, but the laptop is actually a very well disguised dirty bomb".) www.ribosomemusic.com From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 15:37:59 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:37:59 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] info for tonight's pg large ensemble performance at the uptown In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <335985.21989.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> dear participants in tonight's pg large ensemble: sorry if this smells like sausage (it isn't), but i just heard from sarah that the opening solo performance isn't happening, so it all might flow starting a bit earlier. this seemed like the easiest way to reach the most people. so, if you can come earlier (to do some preliminary set up, etc.) please do. several of you were not there on sunday (some i knew wouldn't be there, some surprised me by not being there). no worries - just come tonight and be ready to play! weasel walter's group will start shortly after 9. we will go on soon after 10 pm. email me off list if you have questions. pg From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Feb 17 15:40:33 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:40:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <114290.77133.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: > ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or is it just > me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those "jazz > background" improv cats were all over the transbay, > beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- don't > think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least 5 years. > > -m PG: i'm still here, and hopefully i'm still annoying people with my jazz background. From gcremaschi at hotmail.com Tue Feb 17 17:40:37 2009 From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 17:40:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: > p.s. i applied for that commission too! boohoo Well, matt, there is no question that Narada Michael Walden is going to write a better piece than you could ever even dream of! I mean, he's famous!!! -George _________________________________________________________________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Tue Feb 17 18:56:25 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 18:56:25 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: <114290.77133.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <114290.77133.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <008701c99174$7cdd94e0$7698bea0$@com> Matt, If you want a good calendar of jazz performances I could forward the info on Rick Ballard's Groove Yard email blast. He lists Rova's gigs and Improv 21 and I see Phillip Greenlief's name occasionally. He takes submission before March 2nd for March. Jon -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Phillip Greenlief Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:41 PM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: > ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or is it just > me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those "jazz > background" improv cats were all over the transbay, > beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- don't > think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least 5 years. > > -m PG: i'm still here, and hopefully i'm still annoying people with my jazz background. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Tue Feb 17 19:00:05 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:00:05 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: <008701c99174$7cdd94e0$7698bea0$@com> References: <114290.77133.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <008701c99174$7cdd94e0$7698bea0$@com> Message-ID: <0844199D-EF5F-4F4F-AEAA-E28C60E40DE3@balancepointacoustics.com> Somehow, I don't think that is what he was after. On Feb 17, 2009, at 6:56 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > Matt, > > If you want a good calendar of jazz performances I could forward > the info on > Rick Ballard's Groove Yard email blast. He lists Rova's gigs and > Improv 21 > and I see Phillip Greenlief's name occasionally. He takes > submission before > March 2nd for March. > > Jon > > -----Original Message----- > From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Phillip > Greenlief > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 3:41 PM > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! > > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: > >> ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or is it just >> me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those "jazz >> background" improv cats were all over the transbay, >> beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- don't >> think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least 5 years. >> >> -m > > > PG: > i'm still here, and hopefully i'm still annoying people with my jazz > background. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From tedbrinkley at sbcglobal.net Tue Feb 17 19:23:06 2009 From: tedbrinkley at sbcglobal.net (ted brinkley) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:23:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: <0844199D-EF5F-4F4F-AEAA-E28C60E40DE3@balancepointacoustics.com> Message-ID: <398867.59875.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> john schott still lives in berkeley and recently went to cleveland with plonsey for the opera at oberlin. saxophonist josh smith went too. d. hoff and darren johnston play tonight with weasel walter. lisa mezzacappa plays tonight with PG vijay anderson is at mills 3/16 at du nord/ (3/17 at 21G)?.....goldberg/amendola/dunn/ n. cline et al playing jimmy giuffre and ornette tunes, so i am told. -G > > --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls > wrote: > > > >> ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or > is it just > >> me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those > "jazz > >> background" improv cats were all over the > transbay, > >> beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- > don't > >> think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least > 5 years. > >> > >> -m > > > > > > PG: > > i'm still here, and hopefully i'm still > annoying people with my jazz > > background. > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From michaelz at zoka.com Wed Feb 18 10:11:04 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:11:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: <398867.59875.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <398867.59875.qm@web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/17/09, ted brinkley wrote: >3/16 at du nord/ (3/17 at 21G)?.....goldberg/amendola/dunn/ n. cline >et al playing jimmy giuffre and ornette tunes, so i am told. Yep, both gigs are on . Discussing, not announcing, MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Wed Feb 18 15:13:24 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:13:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: Message-ID: 'lo, in efforts to appease the glistening feathered hawk deities from the land of Citibank's student loan dept, I once again offer a new and interesting sacrifice to the flock. Yeah, I'm a little perplexed as to why I'm paying my dues to a large, heartless, financially irresponsible megalithic organization who will most likely redirect my meager scraps of existence towards an unnecessary bonus to one of the loathsome rats perched at the helm of that particular sinking ship, but hey, pipers must be paid and it's only once on a blue moon that the flocks can choose their own flautist to follow. So, considering that I seem to be fairly skilled at slinging lead and building the occasional electronic music box, I hereby make another offering to the community in hopes of weakening the consumer/corporate reliance that we who use electronics seem to succumb to, as well as to potentially avoid being placed on some corporate robot's automatic calling list, set to begin ringing at 4 am, reminding me that some piggy needs my green... But poetics aside, here's what we've got - a nice wooden box, 9x12, housing three fairly complex, if not chaotic oscillators, hooked to two lowpass filters, hardwired to two audio outs. in short, this box be in stereo (well, dual mono, but you get my drift). Ala interface, we have ourselves 12 contact points, approximately four per oscillator. Admittedly, the interface is fairly primitive, especially when each contact could house any number of other choices, like mini plugs or bananas for instance. However, all said, I kind of prefer this approach since it allows you to play the instrument hands on, minimizing cords and cables, but also provides a universal approach to connecting the box to any number of other modular units or synths - just alligator clip a contact to a patch cable and viva la voltage. Ala sound, its pretty well balanced - lots of chirps and warbles across the spectrum - definitely a performance box for sure. Ala the filters, they're a little interesting- much more subtle than some of my previous endeavors - they're more there to vaguely modify the sound as opposed to providing sweeps, etc. It's also fairly high gain - subtle, yet loud. I've been playing it through my Jazz Chorus and seldom turn the gain past 1... toss this critter into a mixer and you've got a pretty dynamic, stereo beast on your board. Ala aesthetics, it's a mixture of purple and silver plexi with collaged, watercolored backs/sides - varnished to keep the rain out - quite nice it is. Pic, etc. available @ circuitryexposed.blogspot.com - this would be number 006. Ala power, I'll include a battery strap (9v), though you can also run it via wall wart as well - I've found that 12v 100 ma works nicely, though other amounts will work as well. As a rule, keep it low amperage - 300 ma or below and 12 volts or under - dc current = nasty if anything ever goes awry... Ala price, etc. we're looking at roughly 200 - though feel free to make an offer - just remember that this critter is handmade and local and all that - not assembled by slavery and machines prior to being shipped thousands of miles on a sludge tanker and integrated into consumer culture portside - yum! In short, keep it respectable. Ala service and guarantee, etc. as long as I can fix it, I will - just please promise to bring it in for a tune up before it melts to the styrofoam - god, I hate that shit. But cool, offer hath been made - apologies for continuing to hock wares on the list, but hey, I'd rather have this stuff be a benefit to the local community first before tossing things out to the winds of ebay, etsy and elsewhere. If any questions come up ala this critter, drop a line off list. All the best, t. From jmojingle at yahoo.com Wed Feb 18 21:19:29 2009 From: jmojingle at yahoo.com (John Ingle) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:19:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <899296.80740.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Well, Mr. Ingalls, Perhaps you're just not connected... In fact the saxophonist in YOUR? own group is playing something like jazz Thursday night at the Revolution Cafe... Whoops! Is this the dreaded saus...???? so much for middle aged jazz fantasies AND list protocol. cheers, jingle --- On Tue, 2/17/09, Matt Ingalls wrote: From: Matt Ingalls Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 2:06 PM ah.. well i guess it shows how much the scene (or is it just me?) has bifurcated -- it used to be all those "jazz background" improv cats were all over the transbay, beanbenders, etc.. now i never hear about them -- don't think i've seen ben goldberg play in at least 5 years. -m p.s. i applied for that commission too! boohoo ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Sarah - 21 Grand [21grand at 21grand.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 2:01 PM To: Banewmus List Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! No he didn't, but I will remember that line ...useful, interesting connotations. sl on 2/17/09 1:51 PM, Matt Ingalls at ingalls at mills.edu wrote: > > i thought he moved to nyc? > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From weaselw at juno.com Wed Feb 18 21:27:43 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:27:43 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! Message-ID: <20090218.212744.5928.120.weaselw@juno.com> INGLE SPEAKS!!! ww On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:19:29 -0800 (PST) John Ingle writes: > Well, Mr. Ingalls, > > Perhaps you're just not connected... > > In fact the saxophonist in YOUR own group is playing something like > jazz Thursday night at the Revolution Cafe... > > Whoops! Is this the dreaded saus...???? so much for middle aged jazz > fantasies AND list protocol. > > cheers, > jingle ____________________________________________________________ Health Care jobs can make you more money. Free Info. Click Now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIuqJWFGhHhpEx937LfeWVzSXG1g9o7SrQze7hSrr7pcCAbSi9QY4/ From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Feb 18 21:27:41 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah Lockhart) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:27:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Congrats to Amendola! In-Reply-To: <899296.80740.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <899296.80740.qm@web50502.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You forgot to put jazz in quotation marks ...y'know, like the "hipsters" that play "hair metal." sl > Well, Mr. Ingalls, > > Perhaps you're just not connected... > > In fact the saxophonist in YOUR own group is playing something like jazz > Thursday night at the Revolution Cafe... > > Whoops! Is this the dreaded saus...???? so much for middle aged jazz > fantasies AND list protocol. > > cheers, > jingle > From Gino.Robair at penton.com Thu Feb 19 10:52:31 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:52:31 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] Teaching gig at Chabot-Las Positas CC Message-ID: FYI: Music Instructor Chabot-Las Positas Community College District - Chabot Chabot-Las Positas Community College District Music Instructor (#2FHU18) The Chabot-Las Positas Community College District is seeking a Music Instructor (Commercial Sound Recording Technology) for Chabot College in Hayward, CA. The position reports directly to the Division Dean. Salary The initial salary placement range is $56,202 - $80,348/yr, depending on education and experience. Assignment The position is full-time, first year contract, Fall 2009 -Spring 2010 Academic Year. Employment will begin August 13, 2009. Minimum Qualifications Education and Experience: *Master's Degree in music OR Bachelor's Degree in music AND Master's in humanities OR **the equivalent. *Degrees in Progress: To be conferred on or before July 1, 2009 will be considered, provided that the applicant also submits (1) an up-to-date transcript, (2) a photocopy of the degree requirement from the school catalog, and (3) proof of current course(s) and enrollment. Demonstrate sensitivity to and an understanding of the diverse academic, socioeconomic, cultural and ethnic backgrounds of community college students, including those with physical and/or learning disabilities. Desirable Qualifications Evidence of prior successful experience in teaching music technology at the college level; Expert level knowledge of and experience using state-of-the-art professional, commercial recording equipment, technology, computer hardware (Apple-Macintosh platform), and computer software applications used in the field; Professional experience in the sound/music recording field (documentation required). Particular Job Characteristics Knowledge of sound recording principles, concepts, and techniques; Knowledge of teaching methods appropriate to the college and/or adult level; Ability to communicate clearly and effectively, both orally and in writing; Ability to teach late afternoons, evenings, and Saturdays, and/or off campus/satellite campus locations in support of program needs and class scheduling as assigned by school administration;? Ability to maintain and coordinate a successful commercial sound recording technology program and studio; Ability to administer and manage commercial recording technology labs equipped with Apple-Macintosh computers; Expert knowledge of state-of-the-art sound recording hardware and software applications; Ability to supervise, organize, and maintain an audio archive for the Chabot College School of the Arts; Ability to collegially and cooperatively work and interface with faculty, staff, students, and administrators in a shared-governance organization;? Ability to design curriculum, programs, certificates, and degrees in commercial recording technology and sound studio technology; Ability to advise, recruit, and retain students; Knowledge of individual recording requirements for specific instrumentation and the specific technical recording requirements of various kinds of musical groups (playing a broad cross section of musical genres and styles) and/or performance events (e.g., ensembles, bands, choirs, orchestras, plays, musicals, etc.). Address Inquiries and Applications To ATTN: Human Resource Services Chabot-Las Positas Community College District 5020 Franklin Drive, Pleasanton, CA 94588 24 hour Job Line: (925) 485-5200 Website: www.clpccd.org/hr ? CLOSING DATE FOR APPLICATIONS: March 19, 2009, 5:00 p.m. POSTMARKS NOT ACCEPTABLE The Application Process The following must be submitted as a complete packet: 1. Official District Faculty application form for: Music Instructor (Commercial Sound Recording Technology) use position code (#2FHU18). 2. Cover letter addressing qualifications for the position. 3. Resume of all professional preparation and experience. 4. College transcripts (unofficial copies may be submitted for application purposes; however, official copies must be submitted before hiring.) Any degrees earned outside of the United States must have a U.S. evaluation (course by course) of the transcripts and must be submitted with the application. 5. Recent audio demonstrating proficiency on an instrument (CD preferred). 6. Equal Opportunity Employment Questionnaire. (optional). Other extraneous material will not be considered. **Applicants applying under the ?Equivalent? provision must provide details that explain at time of application how their academic preparation is the equivalent of the degree listed above. All candidates invited for an interview will be expected to give a short performance on an instrument of their choice and demonstrate teaching methods by rehearsing an ensemble. Selection Procedures Applicants are evaluated by the appropriate manager and a review committee. Applicants determined to be the most qualified for the position will be invited for an interview at their own expense.? EOE? From michaelz at zoka.com Thu Feb 19 12:09:43 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:09:43 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New Oakland venue later this year? Message-ID: Just noticed this on the Awaken Cafe Web site (the cafe opened last year on 14th St. near B'way, next to the old Golden Bull space): >? Phase Two ? Premier Performance Venue > >Coming Soon: Detailed plans for the the Premier >Performance Venue component of Phase Two. > >Our second phase (scheduled for 2009) will >expand our operations into a 3500 square foot >historic lounge and will include a coffee and >tea house, organic and local eatery, meeting >place, community center, and expansive art >gallery. After dark, we will transform into a >beer and wine bar which will be known as a >premiere destination for cutting edge music and >live performance in the East Bay. Right now they just have "Live Jazz" on Saturdays (11am-1pm), featuring Wil Blades and guests. MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From 21grand at 21grand.org Thu Feb 19 12:44:24 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:44:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New Oakland venue later this year? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "premier performance venue"? To quote Mission of Burma - "that's when I reach for my revolver" ...yuk! sl on 2/19/09 12:09 PM, Michael Zelner at michaelz at zoka.com wrote: > Just noticed this on the Awaken Cafe Web site > (the cafe opened last year on 14th St. near > B'way, next to the old Golden Bull space): > >> ? Phase Two ? Premier Performance Venue >> >> Coming Soon: Detailed plans for the the Premier >> Performance Venue component of Phase Two. >> >> Our second phase (scheduled for 2009) will >> expand our operations into a 3500 square foot >> historic lounge and will include a coffee and >> tea house, organic and local eatery, meeting >> place, community center, and expansive art >> gallery. After dark, we will transform into a >> beer and wine bar which will be known as a >> premiere destination for cutting edge music and >> live performance in the East Bay. > > > > Right now they just have "Live Jazz" on Saturdays > (11am-1pm), featuring Wil Blades and guests. > > MZ > > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 14:32:43 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:32:43 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New Oakland venue later this year? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So are they actually going to want to book stuff weird music? "Cutting Edge" has eventually become a promo fluff term that doesn't mean much. On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Michael Zelner wrote: > Just noticed this on the Awaken Cafe Web site > (the cafe opened last year on 14th St. near > B'way, next to the old Golden Bull space): > >>? Phase Two ? Premier Performance Venue >> >>Coming Soon: Detailed plans for the the Premier >>Performance Venue component of Phase Two. >> >>Our second phase (scheduled for 2009) will >>expand our operations into a 3500 square foot >>historic lounge and will include a coffee and >>tea house, organic and local eatery, meeting >>place, community center, and expansive art >>gallery. After dark, we will transform into a >>beer and wine bar which will be known as a >>premiere destination for cutting edge music and >>live performance in the East Bay. > > > > Right now they just have "Live Jazz" on Saturdays > (11am-1pm), featuring Wil Blades and guests. > > MZ > > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From weaselw at juno.com Thu Feb 19 14:44:20 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:44:20 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] New Oakland venue later this year? Message-ID: <20090219.144425.5928.230.weaselw@juno.com> well, if they want to remain "premier", they're better of not! ww On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 14:32:43 -0800 Matt Davignon writes: > So are they actually going to want to book stuff weird music? > > "Cutting Edge" has eventually become a promo fluff term that doesn't > mean much. ____________________________________________________________ Hotel pics, info and virtual tours. Click here to book a hotel online. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKDE2FLSGQrG7qAEReV0iCGrhjc9w7w68g7HIeCWAQCyvU80eyQgw/ From djcypod at gmail.com Thu Feb 19 15:22:46 2009 From: djcypod at gmail.com (b) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:22:46 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Here is a musician job I found in the Bay Area, Air National Guard Regional Band. They really brought the brass to Jack London Square on the 4th of July. Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. Jimi Hendrix was a paratrooper before becoming a rock star. And there are lots of other great benefits: Morale, Welfare and Recreation Facilities Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 Montgomery GI Bill up to $20,000 for repaying Student Loans Up to $400,000 Life Insurance The National Guard has been a part of U.S. history since the Revolutionary War. The Air National Guard is a reserve component of the United States Air Force. Air National Guard members take pride in being active role models for their communities. During times of celebration or disaster, the Air National Guard provides resources and support needed to get the job done. We share in the success of our nation, and we are ready, willing and able to guard America's freedom. We take great pride in being "Your Hometown Air Force"- the Air National Guard. Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 Manages, supervises, and performs as an instrumentalist, music arranger, vocalist, military band support technician, or audio and lighting engineer in military band activities. Members will provide and account for equipment, space, supplies, and other facilities required by the band. They will advise higher authority on band status, equipment maintenance and adequacy, personnel training, and operational efficiency. Coordinate activities such as concerts, parades, and rehearsals with interested agencies and higher authority. Direct full band, sectional, and other group rehearsals. Direct the operation of bands in military and civilian performance, including parades, ceremonies, and concerts. Manages band administrative and support functions. Audition personnel such as newly assigned members, and civilians interested in enlistment for military band, and assigned personnel for promotional and training purposes. They will perform in small musical ensembles such as brass or woodwind quartets, quintets, or other combinations. Drill with marching band and execute formations on drum major's or leader's verbal or baton signal, while playing or carrying a musical instrument. Play from music or memory while standing or marching. Performs as marching band drum major during drills, parades, and ceremonies. Arrange and adapts music for various musical combinations. Read and sings vocal musical parts, and memorizes vocal parts for public performance. Operate and maintain audio reinforcement, recording, lighting, video, and multimedia equipment used during band rehearsals, training, and performances. Duties and Responsibilities for the Aerial Gunner include but are not limited to: Music is an important part of military life. Service bands and vocal groups have a strong tradition of performing at ceremonies, parades, concerts, festivals, and dances. Musicians and singers perform in service bands, orchestras, and small groups. They perform many types of music, including marches, classics, jazz, and popular music. Play in or lead bands, orchestras, combos, and jazz groups Sing in choral groups or as soloists Perform for ceremonies, parades, concerts, festivals, and dances Rehearse and learn new music when not performing Play brass, percussion, woodwind, or string instruments The Air National Guard offers many benefits to their unit members and their families such as: Base Exchange Commissary Morale, Welfare and Recreation Facilities Up to $400,000 Life Insurance Retirement Incentives may include: Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 Montgomery GI Bill up to $20,000 for repaying Student Loans Montgomery GI Bill Kicker offers up to $350.00 per month for certain specialties http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?Job_DID=J3F3TF5WBM04NS9267P&siteid=cb_emailjob_US From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Thu Feb 19 15:25:41 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 15:25:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] air national guard plays for lovers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <526476.98126.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> oh boy, i can't wait to sign up!!! pg --- On Thu, 2/19/09, b wrote: > From: b > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 3:22 PM > Here is a musician job I found in the Bay Area, Air National > Guard > Regional Band. They really brought the brass to Jack London > Square on > the 4th of July. Its everyone's dream right, Get paid > to travel and > play music. Jimi Hendrix was a paratrooper before becoming > a rock > star. And there are lots of other great benefits: > > Morale, Welfare and Recreation Facilities > Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 > Montgomery GI Bill up to $20,000 for repaying Student Loans > Up to $400,000 Life Insurance > > The National Guard has been a part of U.S. history since > the > Revolutionary War. The Air National Guard is a reserve > component of > the United States Air Force. Air National Guard members > take pride in > being active role models for their communities. During > times of > celebration or disaster, the Air National Guard provides > resources and > support needed to get the job done. We share in the success > of our > nation, and we are ready, willing and able to guard > America's freedom. > We take great pride in being "Your Hometown Air > Force"- the Air > National Guard. Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 Manages, > supervises, > and performs as an instrumentalist, music arranger, > vocalist, military > band support technician, or audio and lighting engineer in > military > band activities. Members will provide and account for > equipment, > space, supplies, and other facilities required by the band. > They will > advise higher authority on band status, equipment > maintenance and > adequacy, personnel training, and operational efficiency. > Coordinate > activities such as concerts, parades, and rehearsals with > interested > agencies and higher authority. Direct full band, sectional, > and other > group rehearsals. Direct the operation of bands in military > and > civilian performance, including parades, ceremonies, and > concerts. > Manages band administrative and support functions. Audition > personnel > such as newly assigned members, and civilians interested in > enlistment > for military band, and assigned personnel for promotional > and training > purposes. They will perform in small musical ensembles such > as brass > or woodwind quartets, quintets, or other combinations. > Drill with > marching band and execute formations on drum major's or > leader's > verbal or baton signal, while playing or carrying a musical > instrument. Play from music or memory while standing or > marching. > Performs as marching band drum major during drills, > parades, and > ceremonies. Arrange and adapts music for various musical > combinations. > Read and sings vocal musical parts, and memorizes vocal > parts for > public performance. Operate and maintain audio > reinforcement, > recording, lighting, video, and multimedia equipment used > during band > rehearsals, training, and performances. Duties and > Responsibilities > for the Aerial Gunner include but are not limited to: > > Music is an important part of military life. > Service bands and vocal groups have a strong tradition of > performing > at ceremonies, parades, concerts, festivals, and dances. > Musicians and singers perform in service bands, orchestras, > and small groups. > They perform many types of music, including marches, > classics, jazz, > and popular music. > Play in or lead bands, orchestras, combos, and jazz groups > Sing in choral groups or as soloists > Perform for ceremonies, parades, concerts, festivals, and > dances > Rehearse and learn new music when not performing > Play brass, percussion, woodwind, or string instruments > The Air National Guard offers many benefits to their unit > members and > their families such as: > Base Exchange > Commissary > Morale, Welfare and Recreation Facilities > Up to $400,000 Life Insurance > Retirement > Incentives may include: > Enlistment Bonus up to $20,000 > Montgomery GI Bill up to $20,000 for repaying Student Loans > Montgomery GI Bill Kicker offers up to $350.00 per month > for certain specialties > > http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?Job_DID=J3F3TF5WBM04NS9267P&siteid=cb_emailjob_US > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From ingalls at mills.edu Thu Feb 19 16:25:33 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:33 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: References: , Message-ID: > Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) From weaselw at juno.com Thu Feb 19 16:35:56 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:35:56 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: Message-ID: <20090219.163600.5928.238.weaselw@juno.com> (IN ROBOT VOICE): "let's play globar thermonuclear war." ww On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:33 -0800 Matt Ingalls writes: > > > Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. > > actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games > -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) ____________________________________________________________ Click to shop and find discounts on certified diamond jewelry. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNYoJQL2CokR6RqVPzSfPb29KOVjsd0rgfhjqYXRpXHc0KfzfGaWk/ From 21grand at 21grand.org Thu Feb 19 16:40:41 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah Lockhart) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:40:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: <20090219.163600.5928.238.weaselw@juno.com> References: <20090219.163600.5928.238.weaselw@juno.com> Message-ID: <8210264104fabf4670692b1edffc56ab.squirrel@webmail.21grand.org> Let's play (vinko) Globokar thermonuclear war? sl > (IN ROBOT VOICE): "let's play globar thermonuclear war." > > ww > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:33 -0800 Matt Ingalls > writes: >> >> > Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. >> >> actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games >> -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) > ____________________________________________________________ > Click to shop and find discounts on certified diamond jewelry. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNYoJQL2CokR6RqVPzSfPb29KOVjsd0rgfhjqYXRpXHc0KfzfGaWk/ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From slusser at pixar.com Thu Feb 19 16:48:16 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:48:16 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Matt Ingalls wrote: > >> Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. > > actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games > -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) There's guys out in Colorado operating drones in Afghanistan. Sounds close. From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Thu Feb 19 16:50:49 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:50:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> Message-ID: <872214.38673.qm@web81401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, David Slusser wrote: > There's guys out in Colorado operating drones in > Afghanistan. > Sounds close. insects! if i'm going to play a drone, i'm going to afghanistan and do it in person! From jzitt at metatronpress.com Thu Feb 19 16:56:38 2009 From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 19:56:38 -0500 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> References: <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> Message-ID: Now *that's* a DroneShift! On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 7:48 PM, David Slusser wrote: > On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Matt Ingalls wrote: > >> >>> Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. >> >> actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games >> -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) > > There's guys out in Colorado operating drones in Afghanistan. > Sounds close. > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com From ingalls at mills.edu Thu Feb 19 17:10:45 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:10:45 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> References: , <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> Message-ID: ;) (!) ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of David Slusser [slusser at pixar.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48 PM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Matt Ingalls wrote: > >> Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. > > actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games > -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) There's guys out in Colorado operating drones in Afghanistan. Sounds close. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From michaelz at zoka.com Thu Feb 19 17:21:20 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:21:20 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] air national guard plays for lovers In-Reply-To: <526476.98126.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <526476.98126.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 2/19/09, Phillip Greenlief wrote: >oh boy, i can't wait to sign up!!! >pg Yes, this would be a great addition to your resume, PG: Air National Guard Regional Band Drum Major and Aerial Gunner MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From letucepry at yahoo.com Thu Feb 19 17:36:24 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:36:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: References: , <38B21302-BF84-4F68-8DA2-17B84142966D@pixar.com> Message-ID: <410499.7342.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> )) <> (( forever ________________________________ From: Matt Ingalls To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:10:45 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: ;) (!) ________________________________________ From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of David Slusser [slusser at pixar.com] Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:48 PM To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: On Feb 19, 2009, at 4:25 PM, Matt Ingalls wrote: > >> Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. > > actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games > -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that? ;) There's guys out in Colorado operating drones in Afghanistan. Sounds close. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Thu Feb 19 18:31:58 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 18:31:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] air national guard plays for lovers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <858497.67361.qm@web81404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 2/19/09, Michael Zelner wrote: > Yes, this would be a great addition to your resume, PG: > > Air National Guard Regional Band Drum Major and Aerial > Gunner > > MZ not to mention all the cool names i could add to my "pg has played or recorded with:.." From mhenry at crypticstudios.com Thu Feb 19 22:19:34 2009 From: mhenry at crypticstudios.com (Michael Henry) Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:19:34 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: Message-ID: Sarah wrote: >>Let's play (vinko) Globokar thermonuclear war? I'm ready to play! I've got a B-61 mod-11 1,200 lb. thermonuclear gravity bomb that is a most excellent instrument: http://www.isorhythm.com/H_2.html But seriously, Globokar warming is nothing to joke about. If we don't stop Vinko soon, a Globokar catastrophe will surely ensue. We must act now or it will be too late to stop the effects of Vinko, and our species shall perish from the face of the earth. - MH ------------------------------ Message: 13 Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:40:41 -0800 (PST) From: "Sarah Lockhart" <21grand at 21grand.org> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" Message-ID: <8210264104fabf4670692b1edffc56ab.squirrel at webmail.21grand.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Let's play (vinko) Globokar thermonuclear war? sl > (IN ROBOT VOICE): "let's play globar thermonuclear war." > > ww > > On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:33 -0800 Matt Ingalls > writes: >> >> > Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. >> >> actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games >> -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) > ____________________________________________________________ > Click to shop and find discounts on certified diamond jewelry. > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNYoJQL2CokR6RqVPzSfPb29KOVjsd0rgfhjqYXRpXHc0KfzfGaWk/ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Fri Feb 20 11:42:48 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 11:42:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question Message-ID: So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal venues are out and about. We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, do you wear a size other than medium or large? Thanks, sl From mattdavignon at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 12:01:09 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:01:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, I would like T-shirts. Please do not get them on white shirts. It's a good idea to get some XL and a few XXL. Is the "less than 50 people with no liquid being served" guideline more or less legitimate with the city? Matt On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > venues are out and about. > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > Thanks, > > sl > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Fri Feb 20 12:04:30 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:04:30 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 2/20/09 12:01 PM, Matt Davignon at mattdavignon at gmail.com wrote: > Yes, I would like T-shirts. > Please do not get them on white shirts. > It's a good idea to get some XL and a few XXL. Shirts will be black. We're trying to figure out how many to get. > > Is the "less than 50 people with no liquid being served" guideline > more or less legitimate with the city? Not really - we would be resuming our previously (pre-December 2007) illegal ways, minus the offering of adult beverages. sl > > Matt > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> > wrote: >> So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of >> our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he >> doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of >> leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space >> and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. >> >> Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less >> up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. >> >> In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume >> having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught >> and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a >> couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding >> Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal >> venues are out and about. >> >> We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject >> of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market >> research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, >> do you wear a size other than medium or large? >> >> Thanks, >> >> sl >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 12:06:41 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:06:41 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <2eb068d40902201206k38a44758iac33448e4410e53e@mail.gmail.com> I'm with Matt; if they're white shirts, I'd still buy one, but I could only wear it to the gym. ;) P. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Yes, I would like T-shirts. > Please do not get them on white shirts. > It's a good idea to get some XL and a few XXL. > > Is the "less than 50 people with no liquid being served" guideline > more or less legitimate with the city? > > Matt > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> > wrote: > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out > of > > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option > of > > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the > space > > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or > less > > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to > resume > > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > > venues are out and about. > > > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the > subject > > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If > so, > > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > > > Thanks, > > > > sl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From mattdavignon at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 13:15:04 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:15:04 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Not really - we would be resuming our previously... > ways, minus the offering of adult beverages. > > sl I would imagine that this probably means taking it easy on radio and press promo for shows? Definitely happy to hear about the re-opening. Matt From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Fri Feb 20 13:37:53 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:37:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <244065.37604.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, do you wear a size other than medium or large? Thanks, sl PG: fuck yeah! give me a large...in black, please! :) _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From ingalls at mills.edu Fri Feb 20 13:48:06 2009 From: ingalls at mills.edu (Matt Ingalls) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 13:48:06 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: if i did wear t-shirts i would buy one - (beer gut size & black) From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Fri Feb 20 14:11:05 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:11:05 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: heh. i seem to remember my initial post being ever so slightly just a little more anti-establishment than the prospectives of signing up to be an active member of the military industrial complex, sarcastic or otherwise. the gears, they grind when the subject heading complies with local diy aesthetics and the message suggests a career in the trenches, playing morale music for one of the most morally corrupt establishments on this planet since the days of, oh, i don't know, lets go for the inquisition on this one, just so y'all end up with that horrible Mel Brooks song in yr heads. hendrix was only in the army because it was either that or prison following a grand theft auto conviction... On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Michael Henry wrote: > Sarah wrote: > >>>Let's play (vinko) Globokar thermonuclear war? > > I'm ready to play! I've got a B-61 mod-11 1,200 lb. thermonuclear gravity bomb that is a most excellent instrument: > > http://www.isorhythm.com/H_2.html > > But seriously, Globokar warming is nothing to joke about. If we don't stop Vinko soon, a Globokar catastrophe will surely ensue. We must act now or it will be too late to stop the effects of Vinko, and our species shall perish from the face of the earth. > > - MH > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 13 > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:40:41 -0800 (PST) > From: "Sarah Lockhart" <21grand at 21grand.org> > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] ::new synth for sale:: > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Message-ID: > <8210264104fabf4670692b1edffc56ab.squirrel at webmail.21grand.org> > Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 > > Let's play (vinko) Globokar thermonuclear war? > > sl > >> (IN ROBOT VOICE): "let's play globar thermonuclear war." >> >> ww >> >> On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 16:25:33 -0800 Matt Ingalls >> writes: >>> >>> > Its everyone's dream right, Get paid to travel and play music. >>> >>> actually my dream is to sit on my ass all day and play video games >>> -- surely the military doesn't have a room for me to do that ;) >> ____________________________________________________________ >> Click to shop and find discounts on certified diamond jewelry. >> http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTNYoJQL2CokR6RqVPzSfPb29KOVjsd0rgfhjqYXRpXHc0KfzfGaWk/ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From letucepry at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 14:23:47 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:23:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question References: Message-ID: <671541.4686.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Will these be American Apparel? lettuce ________________________________ From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> To: Banewmus List Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:42:48 AM Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal venues are out and about. We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, do you wear a size other than medium or large? Thanks, sl _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From 21grand at 21grand.org Fri Feb 20 14:30:37 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:30:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <671541.4686.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: No. These are t-shirts intended to raise funds for 21 Grand, not the To Catch a Predator TV show. sl on 2/20/09 2:23 PM, Ron Lettuce at letucepry at yahoo.com wrote: > Will these be American Apparel? > > > lettuce > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> > To: Banewmus List > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:42:48 AM > Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > venues are out and about. > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > Thanks, > > sl > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From tim at perkis.com Fri Feb 20 16:15:46 2009 From: tim at perkis.com (Tim Perkis) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:15:46 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <499F47B2.7060503@perkis.com> yes, I want a tshirt and i wear XL T Matt Davignon wrote: > Yes, I would like T-shirts. > Please do not get them on white shirts. > It's a good idea to get some XL and a few XXL. > > Is the "less than 50 people with no liquid being served" guideline > more or less legitimate with the city? > > Matt > > On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > >> So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of >> our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he >> doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of >> leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space >> and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. >> >> Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less >> up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. >> >> In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume >> having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught >> and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a >> couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding >> Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal >> venues are out and about. >> >> We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject >> of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market >> research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, >> do you wear a size other than medium or large? >> >> Thanks, >> >> sl >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 20:30:10 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 04:30:10 +0000 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question Message-ID: <1989840641-1235190592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2101342019-@bxe331.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have a track that would be good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so it could be a limited run that can could be refilled when needed. it could be registered a cdbaby for cd sales and downloads. I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and donate a track. Anyone up for compiling the tracks? ------Original Message------ From: Sarah - 21 Grand Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu To: Banewmus List ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal venues are out and about. We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, do you wear a size other than medium or large? Thanks, sl _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From 21grand at 21grand.org Fri Feb 20 20:43:35 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 20:43:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <1989840641-1235190592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2101342019-@bxe331.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing around in my head for a while now. My idea included having some previously-unreleased and live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and mastering said material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or expensive" and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD though. sl on 2/20/09 8:30 PM, Jon Raskin at jon_raskin at yahoo.com wrote: > How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have a track that would be > good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so it could be a limited run > that can could be refilled when needed. it could be registered a cdbaby for > cd sales and downloads. > > I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and donate a track. Anyone up > for compiling the tracks? > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > From: Sarah - 21 Grand > Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > To: Banewmus List > ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM > Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > venues are out and about. > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > Thanks, > > sl > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From alee at tentacle.net Fri Feb 20 21:09:11 2009 From: alee at tentacle.net (Alee Karim) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 21:09:11 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question Message-ID: <270AAC41-7D2D-4B72-8503-C50E0B39FEC5@tentacle.net> I want a shirt too but I want it to have Matt Davignon's face on it with a speech bubble saying, "I'm part of the Bay Area music community and all I got was this lousy t-shirt made exponentially lousier by its whiteness." L, please. -A -- So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal venues are out and about. We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, do you wear a size other than medium or large? Thanks, sl From liz_abet at yahoo.com Fri Feb 20 22:28:48 2009 From: liz_abet at yahoo.com (liz allbee) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:28:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question Message-ID: <94774.49199.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> T-shirts! I definitely think some smalls and mediums are needed! Seems like everytime I go to buy a band t-shirt (or have ever grabbed one from a band I'm in) there are only mens L, XL and up. Poo. I'm told either all the small/meds sold or they didn't order enough.....my 2cents. Also. What about kfjc-like stickers or bumper stickers? They could say something like 21Grand: So underground we're almost dead. or 21G's...shhhh....HOORAY! or fuck art. at 21Grand. well, thoughts. Message: 3 Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 12:01:09 -0800 From: Matt Davignon Subject: Re: [NewMusic] T-shirt question To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I would like T-shirts. Please do not get them on white shirts. It's a good idea to get some XL and a few XXL. Is the "less than 50 people with no liquid being served" guideline more or less legitimate with the city? Matt On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 11:42 AM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > venues are out and about. > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > Thanks, > > sl > > From mylesaudio at aol.com Fri Feb 20 23:59:18 2009 From: mylesaudio at aol.com (Myles Boisen) Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 23:59:18 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <53F24CEE-8A8B-4A01-BE50-A3B8256D3533@aol.com> I'd be happy to master a benefit CD for 21 Grand! Myles Sorry for the brief message - this was sent from my iPhone On Feb 20, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing > around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some previously- > unreleased and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and > mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or > expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD > though. > > sl > > on 2/20/09 8:30 PM, Jon Raskin at jon_raskin at yahoo.com wrote: > >> How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have a track that >> would be >> good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so it could be a >> limited run >> that can could be refilled when needed. it could be registered a >> cdbaby for >> cd sales and downloads. >> >> I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and donate a track. >> Anyone up >> for compiling the tracks? >> >> >> >> >> >> ------Original Message------ >> From: Sarah - 21 Grand >> Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu >> To: Banewmus List >> ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM >> Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question >> >> So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let >> us out of >> our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he >> doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the >> option of >> leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in >> the space >> and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. >> >> Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more >> or less >> up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. >> >> In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but >> to resume >> having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting >> caught >> and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only >> doing a >> couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and >> avoiding >> Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust >> illegal >> venues are out and about. >> >> We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the >> subject >> of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of >> market >> research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? >> If so, >> do you wear a size other than medium or large? >> >> Thanks, >> >> sl >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sat Feb 21 00:22:15 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:22:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <114140.94320.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> jon and i have a lot of 2+2 stuff (all of which was recorded at 21 grand)...we would be willing to contribute a track. we also have some nifty stuff that people did who played on the bill with us... pg --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > To: "Banewmus List" > Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 8:43 PM > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been > tossing around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some > previously-unreleased and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and > mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too > complicated and/or expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the > idea of a CD > though. > > sl > > on 2/20/09 8:30 PM, Jon Raskin at jon_raskin at yahoo.com > wrote: > > > How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have > a track that would be > > good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so > it could be a limited run > > that can could be refilled when needed. it could be > registered a cdbaby for > > cd sales and downloads. > > > > I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and > donate a track. Anyone up > > for compiling the tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Sarah - 21 Grand > > Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > > To: Banewmus List > > ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM > > Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > > > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does > not want to let us out of > > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), > even though he > > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, > faced with the option of > > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of > rent or staying in the space > > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we > chose the latter. > > > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space > that is more or less > > up to code or would require less expensive building > modifications. > > > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no > choice but to resume > > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the > risk of getting caught > > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" > methods include only doing a > > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super > late, and avoiding > > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops > that bust illegal > > venues are out and about. > > > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, > including the subject > > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is > also a bit of market > > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 > Grand t-shirt? If so, > > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > > > Thanks, > > > > sl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From walters at doubtfulpalace.com Sat Feb 21 00:31:28 2009 From: walters at doubtfulpalace.com (Tim Walters) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:31:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <94774.49199.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <94774.49199.qm@web33103.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <29550.198.1235205088.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com> > Also. What about kfjc-like stickers or bumper stickers? They could say > something like 21Grand: So underground we're almost dead. or > 21G's...shhhh....HOORAY! or fuck art. at 21Grand. How about "Fuck dance, let's art!" -- Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com From polly.moller at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 06:01:28 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 06:01:28 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: <1989840641-1235190592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2101342019-@bxe331.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <2eb068d40902210601l68b80c2erc54fedc4c1eeaafe@mail.gmail.com> I've talked to Clyde Niesen off list and he is willing to do the putting together and mastering. P. On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org>wrote: > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some previously-unreleased > and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD > though. > > sl > > on 2/20/09 8:30 PM, Jon Raskin at jon_raskin at yahoo.com wrote: > > > How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have a track that would > be > > good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so it could be a > limited run > > that can could be refilled when needed. it could be registered a cdbaby > for > > cd sales and downloads. > > > > I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and donate a track. > Anyone up > > for compiling the tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Sarah - 21 Grand > > Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > > To: Banewmus List > > ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM > > Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > > > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out > of > > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option > of > > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the > space > > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or > less > > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to > resume > > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > > venues are out and about. > > > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the > subject > > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If > so, > > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > > > Thanks, > > > > sl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ------------------------------------------------------------ http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com ------------------------------------------------------------ From jfheule at gmail.com Sat Feb 21 09:53:06 2009 From: jfheule at gmail.com (jacob felix heule) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:53:06 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: <1989840641-1235190592-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-2101342019-@bxe331.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <9c5cfa860902210953t72f03ae5v514e84406587eda6@mail.gmail.com> i have quite a lot of live shows at 21 grand recorded... happy to donate some work to that project if people are interested. the 21 grand tshirt demographic is probably slightly different from whoever buys ettrick tshirts, but i think, like liz says, mediums are the biggest seller by a long shot, and smalls shouldn't be underestimated. i have a whole bunch of Large ettrick shirts sitting around (for like 2-3 years now) if anybody wants to throw down some small amount of cash! i was smart enough to make barely any XLs. jacob On 2/20/09, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some previously-unreleased and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD > though. > > sl > > > on 2/20/09 8:30 PM, Jon Raskin at jon_raskin at yahoo.com wrote: > > > How about a 21 Grand artist CD? We probably all have a track that would be > > good. Kunaki charges 1.75 per cdr for any amount so it could be a limited run > > that can could be refilled when needed. it could be registered a cdbaby for > > cd sales and downloads. > > > > I would be willing to pay for the cd art design and donate a track. Anyone up > > for compiling the tracks? > > > > > > > > > > > > ------Original Message------ > > From: Sarah - 21 Grand > > Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu > > To: Banewmus List > > ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Feb 20, 2009 11:42 AM > > Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question > > > > So, as some of you know, 21 Grand's landlord does not want to let us out of > > our lease (which expires at the end of next February), even though he > > doesn't want to pay to renovate the building. So, faced with the option of > > leaving and being liable for a year's worth of rent or staying in the space > > and being liable for a year's worth of rent, we chose the latter. > > > > Our plan is to move at the end of our lease to a space that is more or less > > up to code or would require less expensive building modifications. > > > > In the meantime, in order to pay said rent, we have no choice but to resume > > having shows (sad, I know) and try to mitigate the risk of getting caught > > and getting busted again. These "mitigation" methods include only doing a > > couple shows a week, not having shows that go super late, and avoiding > > Friday and Saturday nights when statistically the cops that bust illegal > > venues are out and about. > > > > We are also looking to do raise funds by other means, including the subject > > of this post - t-shirts. So besides, an fyi this is also a bit of market > > research. Would you be interested in purchasing a 21 Grand t-shirt? If so, > > do you wear a size other than medium or large? > > > > Thanks, > > > > sl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- -- http://www.heule.us http://www.myspace.com/jacobfelix new album, Idea of West: http://www.heule.us/ideaofwest/ From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sat Feb 21 10:01:13 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 10:01:13 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Tshirt In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <615D469A-C21B-49E9-AE9C-5A660666F13B@slambassador.com> If you need help getting the shirts made, I have a friend in the business who's been helpful for me on getting low cost short runs made. It's not something I can exploit very often, but it's worth an inquiry for Oakland's "premier performance venue" / "premiere destination for cutting edge music " :) (ref: NewMusic Digest, Vol 34, Issue 19) He has a number of different blanks styles available, (it can help sales if you veer away from the Hanes Beefy T and get something more, er, fashionable). Anyway, you can mail me off list with your current quote, and I'll see if he can do better. Pete From slusser at pixar.com Sat Feb 21 13:32:28 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 13:32:28 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> On Feb 20, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing > around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some previously- > unreleased and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and > mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or > expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD > though. Got plenty of well recorded tracks from 21Grand shows I can donate - probably a lot of folks do, so I don't think you'll have a problem getting material. Have fun programming it. I'll buy some. From wobbly at detritus.net Sun Feb 22 00:49:29 2009 From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly at detritus.net) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 00:49:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 In-Reply-To: <53F24CEE-8A8B-4A01-BE50-A3B8256D3533@aol.com> References: <53F24CEE-8A8B-4A01-BE50-A3B8256D3533@aol.com> Message-ID: http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=146 recently surfaced early mix of 'revolution no. 1' with extended collage coda, which Lennon eventually seperated off and developed into 'no. 9' even the most over the top gushing hyperbolic description of this isn't going to ruin it for you: it's difficult to believe how great this is -jl From liberatednsf at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 09:45:49 2009 From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 09:45:49 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 References: <53F24CEE-8A8B-4A01-BE50-A3B8256D3533@aol.com> Message-ID: <167841.44792.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I remain entirely unimpressed, except by what George Martin could do with crap like this. http://oudevoida.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "wobbly at detritus.net" To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:49:29 AM Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=146 recently surfaced early mix of 'revolution no. 1' with extended collage coda, which Lennon eventually seperated off and developed into 'no. 9' even the most over the top gushing hyperbolic description of this isn't going to ruin it for you:? it's difficult to believe how great this is -jl _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From cliffcaruthers at gmail.com Sun Feb 22 12:05:37 2009 From: cliffcaruthers at gmail.com (cliff caruthers) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:05:37 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 In-Reply-To: <167841.44792.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <53F24CEE-8A8B-4A01-BE50-A3B8256D3533@aol.com> <167841.44792.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: yeah the beatles suck! On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, andrew wilshusen wrote: > > I remain entirely unimpressed, except by what George Martin could do with > crap like this. > > > http://oudevoida.blogspot.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: "wobbly at detritus.net" > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:49:29 AM > Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 > > http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p 6 > > recently surfaced early mix of 'revolution no. 1' with extended collage > coda, which Lennon eventually seperated off and developed into 'no. 9' > > even the most over the top gushing hyperbolic description of this isn't > going to ruin it for you: it's difficult to believe how great this is > > -jl > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From weaselw at juno.com Sun Feb 22 12:17:24 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:17:24 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 Message-ID: <20090222.121729.5928.328.weaselw@juno.com> i'm actually into the beatles, but revolution no. 9 is a big suckwad if i ever heard one. ww On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:05:37 -0800 cliff caruthers writes: > yeah the beatles suck! > > On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 9:45 AM, andrew wilshusen > wrote: > > > > > I remain entirely unimpressed, except by what George Martin could > do with > > crap like this. > > > > > > http://oudevoida.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: "wobbly at detritus.net" > > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 12:49:29 AM > > Subject: [NewMusic] Revolution Take 20 > > > > http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p 6 > > > > recently surfaced early mix of 'revolution no. 1' with extended > collage > > coda, which Lennon eventually seperated off and developed into > 'no. 9' > > > > even the most over the top gushing hyperbolic description of this > isn't > > going to ruin it for you: it's difficult to believe how great > this is > > > > -jl > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > ____________________________________________________________ Make your dream home a reality. Click here to find all your home improvement needs! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTJutp9SkDA3UoZUhgonF3u99hpo393c9S6QT18F0davXNTtMjkMve/ From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sun Feb 22 13:24:53 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:24:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] big love In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <774929.83103.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> dear friends on the ba new mus list, i was in a really bad car accident yesterday on the bay bridge - it was a five car pile-up, and i was car #3 in the midst of the auto-sandwich. i wasn't at fault...a woman slammed into me from behind, forcing me to plough into the car in front of me, and that car hit the car in front of it...blah blah blah... i turned 50 this week, as some of you may know, it it's been an interesting week! at the end of the day yesterday (i marched on to my clubfoot rehearsal after the wreck - the car i was borrowing was totaled...the rehearsal actually helped me to feel better) i lie in bed and kept asking myself why did this happen??? the resolution i came to was that perhaps this happened to remind me of how lucky i am to be alive. i've been pretty cavalier about death over the past few years...a lot of heavy shit has gone down in my life, and there have been many times when i just wanted to chuck in the towel. i see myself as a modern day warrior, and include you all in that position. we struggle and fight to make our voices heard, and to create art in an environment that isn't always friendly to us. the warrior code my ancestors lived by was: "today is a good day to die"....well, i done used up one of my lives yesterday. anyway, (i'm getting to my point, i promise!), i just wanted to write to the list and say how happy i am to be a part of this community. i feel incredibly blessed to know ALL of you, to see and hear you all in the process of your musical evolution, and to be a part of it some small way. i want to thank all of you that have shared your time with me on stage, off stage, in the studio, in the mixing booth, mastering booth, in rehearsal, at lanesplitters late night chewing on pizza, in cars or vans on tour, late night sitting up watching films and philosophizing, hanging out and listening to music together, toasting a blunt, and in general, just being a part of this amazing music scene here in the bay area. i keep reminding myself that i am LUCKY to have so much music in my life and to have so many willing comrades that seem to be happy to give time to musical projects i dream up, or that ask me to participate in projects you dream up. you all make my life (and the world we live in) a beautiful thing, and i will be thankful for that for the rest of my days. big love to all of you today and always, phillip greenlief From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Sun Feb 22 17:35:29 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 17:35:29 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question/ CD project In-Reply-To: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> References: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> Message-ID: <001101c99557$02bca2a0$0835e7e0$@com> I'll contact all that liked the CD project off list to go over details. -----Original Message----- From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu [mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of David Slusser Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 1:32 PM To: Sarah - 21 Grand Cc: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] T-shirt question On Feb 20, 2009, at 8:43 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > A 21 Grand compilation CD has been something I've been tossing > around in my > head for a while now. My idea included having some previously- > unreleased and > live material, and that brought up the issue of getting and > mastering said > material, at which point my brain said "too complicated and/or > expensive" > and I would put the idea out of my head. I still like the idea of a CD > though. Got plenty of well recorded tracks from 21Grand shows I can donate - probably a lot of folks do, so I don't think you'll have a problem getting material. Have fun programming it. I'll buy some. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From djll at sonic.net Sun Feb 22 21:13:48 2009 From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:13:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] big love In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Holy hell Phillip!!! You are a walking miracle man. I doubt there are many who could take such crappy raw life-material and shape it into a positive, transformative experience. All love back and be well, td On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:24:53 -0800 (PST) > From: Phillip Greenlief > Subject: [NewMusic] big love > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Message-ID: <774929.83103.qm at web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > dear friends on the ba new mus list, > > i was in a really bad car accident yesterday on the bay bridge - it > was a five car pile-up, and i was car #3 in the midst of the auto- > sandwich. i wasn't at fault...a woman slammed into me from behind, > forcing me to plough into the car in front of me, and that car hit > the car in front of it...blah blah blah... > > i turned 50 this week, as some of you may know, it it's been an > interesting week! at the end of the day yesterday (i marched on to > my clubfoot rehearsal after the wreck - the car i was borrowing was > totaled...the rehearsal actually helped me to feel better) i lie in > bed and kept asking myself why did this happen??? > > the resolution i came to was that perhaps this happened to remind me > of how lucky i am to be alive. i've been pretty cavalier about death > over the past few years...a lot of heavy shit has gone down in my > life, and there have been many times when i just wanted to chuck in > the towel. i see myself as a modern day warrior, and include you all > in that position. we struggle and fight to make our voices heard, > and to create art in an environment that isn't always friendly to > us. the warrior code my ancestors lived by was: "today is a good day > to die"....well, i done used up one of my lives yesterday. > > anyway, (i'm getting to my point, i promise!), i just wanted to > write to the list and say how happy i am to be a part of this > community. i feel incredibly blessed to know ALL of you, to see and > hear you all in the process of your musical evolution, and to be a > part of it some small way. > > i want to thank all of you that have shared your time with me on > stage, off stage, in the studio, in the mixing booth, mastering > booth, in rehearsal, at lanesplitters late night chewing on pizza, > in cars or vans on tour, late night sitting up watching films and > philosophizing, hanging out and listening to music together, > toasting a blunt, and in general, just being a part of this amazing > music scene here in the bay area. i keep reminding myself that i am > LUCKY to have so much music in my life and to have so many willing > comrades that seem to be happy to give time to musical projects i > dream up, or that ask me to participate in projects you dream up. > you all make my life (and the world we live in) a beautiful thing, > and i will be thankful for that for the rest of my days. > > big love to all of you today and always, > phillip greenlief > Tom Djll 227 Otis St. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 429-8072 home (831) 423-3050 office (831) 320-1489 cell djll at sonic.net tom at mythmaker.com www.mythmaker.com Music, calendar, & bio: http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll More music w/sound snippets: http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ From Gino.Robair at penton.com Sun Feb 22 21:19:46 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 23:19:46 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] T-Shirt saying Message-ID: Ha! I think Matt's comment would be great on the T-Shirt, perhaps modified with an Elvis reference: "Less than 50 people with no liquid being served can't be wrong." I'd buy TWO of those (in black, size L). From amar at ptank.com Sun Feb 22 22:06:41 2009 From: amar at ptank.com (Amar Chaudhary) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:06:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] New Music...Shanghai? Message-ID: <52300.69.106.231.4.1235369201.squirrel@webmail.ptank.com> Hi all- I am going to be in Shanghai and vicinity for a couple of weeks - I have been researching new music opportunities, but I was wondering if anyone here had some leads/contacts? Essentially, it's the old "hey I'm going to be in your city next week and can I play in your music series" routine. Thanks -Amar From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Sun Feb 22 22:35:21 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:35:21 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] big love In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7F685529-3F3E-4943-9FA1-90ED19B016AE@balancepointacoustics.com> Wow, I missed the original. Happy birthday and I'm glad you are still with us! On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:13 PM, Tom Dill wrote: > Holy hell Phillip!!! > > You are a walking miracle man. I doubt there are many who could take > such crappy raw life-material and shape it into a positive, > transformative experience. > > All love back and be well, td > > > > On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > >> Message: 5 >> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:24:53 -0800 (PST) >> From: Phillip Greenlief >> Subject: [NewMusic] big love >> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> Message-ID: <774929.83103.qm at web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> >> dear friends on the ba new mus list, >> >> i was in a really bad car accident yesterday on the bay bridge - it >> was a five car pile-up, and i was car #3 in the midst of the auto- >> sandwich. i wasn't at fault...a woman slammed into me from behind, >> forcing me to plough into the car in front of me, and that car hit >> the car in front of it...blah blah blah... >> >> i turned 50 this week, as some of you may know, it it's been an >> interesting week! at the end of the day yesterday (i marched on to >> my clubfoot rehearsal after the wreck - the car i was borrowing was >> totaled...the rehearsal actually helped me to feel better) i lie in >> bed and kept asking myself why did this happen??? >> >> the resolution i came to was that perhaps this happened to remind me >> of how lucky i am to be alive. i've been pretty cavalier about death >> over the past few years...a lot of heavy shit has gone down in my >> life, and there have been many times when i just wanted to chuck in >> the towel. i see myself as a modern day warrior, and include you all >> in that position. we struggle and fight to make our voices heard, >> and to create art in an environment that isn't always friendly to >> us. the warrior code my ancestors lived by was: "today is a good day >> to die"....well, i done used up one of my lives yesterday. >> >> anyway, (i'm getting to my point, i promise!), i just wanted to >> write to the list and say how happy i am to be a part of this >> community. i feel incredibly blessed to know ALL of you, to see and >> hear you all in the process of your musical evolution, and to be a >> part of it some small way. >> >> i want to thank all of you that have shared your time with me on >> stage, off stage, in the studio, in the mixing booth, mastering >> booth, in rehearsal, at lanesplitters late night chewing on pizza, >> in cars or vans on tour, late night sitting up watching films and >> philosophizing, hanging out and listening to music together, >> toasting a blunt, and in general, just being a part of this amazing >> music scene here in the bay area. i keep reminding myself that i am >> LUCKY to have so much music in my life and to have so many willing >> comrades that seem to be happy to give time to musical projects i >> dream up, or that ask me to participate in projects you dream up. >> you all make my life (and the world we live in) a beautiful thing, >> and i will be thankful for that for the rest of my days. >> >> big love to all of you today and always, >> phillip greenlief >> > > > Tom Djll > 227 Otis St. > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > (831) 429-8072 home > (831) 423-3050 office > (831) 320-1489 cell > djll at sonic.net > tom at mythmaker.com > www.mythmaker.com > > Music, calendar, & bio: > http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll > > More music w/sound snippets: > http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer > > Photography: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From td at pixar.com Mon Feb 23 08:52:37 2009 From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 08:52:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> References: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> Message-ID: I have several years of Skronkathon recordings. -- Tom Duff. To call this novel formulaic is an insult to the beauty and diversity of formulae. From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 09:50:10 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 09:50:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question References: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> Message-ID: <530473.41594.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Great,? we are compiling a list of what we have from the people that responded and will look at what makes sense.? Maybe you could look at what you think will work and send us a shorten list. Jon Raskin ________________________________ From: Tom Duff To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 8:52:37 AM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] T-shirt question I have several years of Skronkathon recordings. -- Tom Duff.? To call this novel formulaic is an insult to the beauty and diversity of formulae. _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Mon Feb 23 11:46:39 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 11:46:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] New Music...Shanghai? References: <52300.69.106.231.4.1235369201.squirrel@webmail.ptank.com> Message-ID: <372999.2757.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I would try contacting Wu Wei.? I can't seem to locate his email but you might be able to get it from Hong Wang, the director of Meloday of?China ensemble San Francisco.? www.melodyofchina.org?.? Wu Wei is from Shanghai and is into improvisation. THe other person who would have contact info is Carl Stone. Wu Wei was born in the Southeast-China Province of Jiangsu, and started to learn the Chinese violin Erhu at the age of five. At 15 he begins his study of the mouth-organ Sheng at the Art-Academy of Nanjing. From 1989 to 1993 he graduated as master-student of this instrument at the internationally renowned Music-Conservatory of Shanghai. Until then he had won the most prestigious national and international competitions for traditional Chinese music. Subsequent concert-tours through China, Japan, USA and Europe familiarized Wu Wei with non-Chinese music-traditions; his first projects with European musicians in Shanghai acquainted him with the practice of Jazz and New Music, for instance. Wu Wei originates from the Chinese classical music, with a strong interest in modern and improvised music, Jazz-influenced and new and improvised music, as well as minimalism. Wei has developed a new sound-language for Chinese instruments and contemporary new music by experimenting with his three-thousand-year-old Chinese instrument. Since 1993 Wei has appeared as a Soloist with different ensembles and orchestras, in countless concerts and recitals and in festivals throughout Germany and internationally. Wu Wei has performed as a guest-soloist with the Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra under Kent Nagano and the New Philharmony Westfalen under GMD Samuel B?chli; the Atlas Ensemble Holland, the Nieuw Ensemble Amsterdam, the Ensemble "Musica Viva" Dresden; the Ensemble MUSICA TEMPORALE Dresden,the Ensemble On_line Wien; and the Ensemble N_Er. From 1998 to 2003 he participated in more than 30 premieres of contemporary compositions including John Cage, Enjott Schneider, Helmut Zapf, J?rg Widmann, Chico Mello, Gunter Baby Sommer, Fabio Nieder, J?rg Herchet, Daniel Ott, Xiao Yongchen, J?rg Herchet, Wolfgang Heisig, Volk Staub, and Christian Utz. ? ? ?Jon Raskin ?Jon Raskin ________________________________ From: Amar Chaudhary To: New Music Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 10:06:41 PM Subject: [NewMusic] New Music...Shanghai? Hi all- I am going to be in Shanghai and vicinity for a couple of weeks - I have been researching new music opportunities, but I was wondering if anyone here had some leads/contacts?? Essentially, it's the old "hey I'm going to be in your city next week and can I play in your music series" routine. ? Thanks ? -Amar _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From barry.threw at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 14:49:45 2009 From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:49:45 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5B4703C3-3C58-4347-8B78-5BE9FF5A7C71@gmail.com> On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > Not really - we would be resuming our previously (pre-December 2007) > illegal > ways, minus the offering of adult beverages. Well hell, that was easy. From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 14:54:34 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:54:34 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <530473.41594.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <7A4FBF88-4557-4723-8DCC-5C2D6C593050@pixar.com> <530473.41594.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I'd like to participate, but I don't know if I have any recordings that were made at 21 Grand. No worries if I don't make anyone's short list. On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Jon Raskin wrote: > Great, we are compiling a list of what we have from the people that responded and will look at what makes sense. Maybe you could look at what you think will work and send us a shorten list. > Jon Raskin > From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Feb 23 15:01:11 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:01:11 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: <5B4703C3-3C58-4347-8B78-5BE9FF5A7C71@gmail.com> Message-ID: Uh, the cops could still bust us. But that's okay, I think I'm the only one that would get arrested/fined! sl on 2/23/09 2:49 PM, Barry Threw at barry.threw at gmail.com wrote: > On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:04 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand wrote: > >> Not really - we would be resuming our previously (pre-December 2007) >> illegal >> ways, minus the offering of adult beverages. > > Well hell, that was easy. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Feb 23 15:25:48 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 15:25:48 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: <5B4703C3-3C58-4347-8B78-5BE9FF5A7C71@gmail.com> Message-ID: Some local venues have required the show-goers to call to get the venue address. Does that help at all? We don't want you getting arrested for little old us! Matt Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> was all: > Uh, the cops could still bust us. But that's okay, I think I'm the only one > that would get arrested/fined! > > sl From henrykuntz at comcast.net Mon Feb 23 21:07:16 2009 From: henrykuntz at comcast.net (Henry Kuntz) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:07:16 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Carnival Special : "Music and Ritual of the Modern Maya" Message-ID: <000d01c9963d$c376bd00$4a643700$@net> "Music and Ritual of the Modern Maya," detailing my experiences in three Mayan communities in Chiapas, Mexico during the time of their "Carnival," is now on my website. http://henrykuntz.free-jazz.net/ This was part of an extensive journey I made to Mexico in 1981 that had a great influence on me as a musician. (It 's the journey I made reference to in the October 2003 Transbay.) Thanks, as always, to webmaster extraordinaire Klaus Thiemann for getting the story online. Hope you enjoy! Henry From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Mon Feb 23 22:32:23 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] big love In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <258201.4814.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thanks for the words, tom. you're a dear friend, my man. i'm feeling pretty good considering the impact i took in that crash. the car was totaled, like...wham. done. i have a bit of soreness here and there, but hot epsom salt baths and arnica are doing the trick so far. ok, let's make some more music soon! pg --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Tom Dill wrote: > From: Tom Dill > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] big love > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 9:13 PM > Holy hell Phillip!!! > > You are a walking miracle man. I doubt there are many who > could take > such crappy raw life-material and shape it into a positive, > > transformative experience. > > All love back and be well, td > > > > On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:00 PM, > newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > > > Message: 5 > > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:24:53 -0800 (PST) > > From: Phillip Greenlief > > Subject: [NewMusic] big love > > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > > Message-ID: > <774929.83103.qm at web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > > dear friends on the ba new mus list, > > > > i was in a really bad car accident yesterday on the > bay bridge - it > > was a five car pile-up, and i was car #3 in the midst > of the auto- > > sandwich. i wasn't at fault...a woman slammed into > me from behind, > > forcing me to plough into the car in front of me, and > that car hit > > the car in front of it...blah blah blah... > > > > i turned 50 this week, as some of you may know, it > it's been an > > interesting week! at the end of the day yesterday (i > marched on to > > my clubfoot rehearsal after the wreck - the car i was > borrowing was > > totaled...the rehearsal actually helped me to feel > better) i lie in > > bed and kept asking myself why did this happen??? > > > > the resolution i came to was that perhaps this > happened to remind me > > of how lucky i am to be alive. i've been pretty > cavalier about death > > over the past few years...a lot of heavy shit has gone > down in my > > life, and there have been many times when i just > wanted to chuck in > > the towel. i see myself as a modern day warrior, and > include you all > > in that position. we struggle and fight to make our > voices heard, > > and to create art in an environment that isn't > always friendly to > > us. the warrior code my ancestors lived by was: > "today is a good day > > to die"....well, i done used up one of my lives > yesterday. > > > > anyway, (i'm getting to my point, i promise!), i > just wanted to > > write to the list and say how happy i am to be a part > of this > > community. i feel incredibly blessed to know ALL of > you, to see and > > hear you all in the process of your musical evolution, > and to be a > > part of it some small way. > > > > i want to thank all of you that have shared your time > with me on > > stage, off stage, in the studio, in the mixing booth, > mastering > > booth, in rehearsal, at lanesplitters late night > chewing on pizza, > > in cars or vans on tour, late night sitting up > watching films and > > philosophizing, hanging out and listening to music > together, > > toasting a blunt, and in general, just being a part of > this amazing > > music scene here in the bay area. i keep reminding > myself that i am > > LUCKY to have so much music in my life and to have so > many willing > > comrades that seem to be happy to give time to musical > projects i > > dream up, or that ask me to participate in projects > you dream up. > > you all make my life (and the world we live in) a > beautiful thing, > > and i will be thankful for that for the rest of my > days. > > > > big love to all of you today and always, > > phillip greenlief > > > > > Tom Djll > 227 Otis St. > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > (831) 429-8072 home > (831) 423-3050 office > (831) 320-1489 cell > djll at sonic.net > tom at mythmaker.com > www.mythmaker.com > > Music, calendar, & bio: > http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll > > More music w/sound snippets: > http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer > > Photography: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Tue Feb 24 17:37:17 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:37:17 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot Message-ID: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> I watched the Hot Spot the other night, a film by Dennis Hopper from 1990.? It is a film noir with Don Johnson set in a small?Texas town.? The original music for the movie was a great mixture of jazz,?different types of blues in a free flowing?way. Improvised feeling but fitting in really well with the telling of the story. It featured Miles Davis, John Lee Hooker, Taj Mahal and?Roy Rogers.? I wonder if they?ever performed together.? ?Jon Raskin From slusser at pixar.com Tue Feb 24 18:35:28 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 18:35:28 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot In-Reply-To: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > I watched the Hot Spot the other night, a film by Dennis Hopper > from 1990. It is a film noir with Don Johnson set in a small Texas > town. The original music for the movie was a great mixture of > jazz, different types of blues in a free flowing way. Improvised > feeling but fitting in really well with the telling of the story. > It featured Miles Davis, John Lee Hooker, Taj Mahal and Roy > Rogers. I wonder if they ever performed together. I'll ask my friend who did the film mix if he knows. It came out in 1990, with Jack Nitzche listed as composer. Only one track sounds the least bit composed. The other musicians included New Orleans and L.A. session great Earl Palmer on drums. On the CD, the only group photo is of just Hooker & Mahal with the bass player and drummer. I imagine Roy Rogers was there, too, since he was associated with Hooker in those days. There's a keyboard player who only appears on two of Mile's tracks, so maybe they were added later. The thought of John Lee and Miles blowing together as a real time music event is daunting, but the music comes off as effective atmosphere. It certainly has a semblance to Miles's 1957 improvised score to "Ascenseur por l'echafaud" - where he started playing with modes and moods, leading directly to Milestones and Kind of Blue. That may have been the breakthrough score for this kind of thing...just record moods. I had this experience with David Lynch, and John Zorn only works this way: http://audio.wnyc.org/eveningmusic/eveningmusic020109.mp3 From setar at pacbell.net Tue Feb 24 21:33:13 2009 From: setar at pacbell.net (Katherine Setar) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 21:33:13 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Phillip Greenlief Accident In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <49A4D819.2020207@pacbell.net> Dear Phillip, Glad to hear you're okay. Sounds like it was really bad. Katherine Setar newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 22:32:23 -0800 (PST) > From: Phillip Greenlief > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] big love > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Message-ID: <258201.4814.qm at web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > thanks for the words, tom. you're a dear friend, my man. > > i'm feeling pretty good considering the impact i took in that crash. the car was totaled, like...wham. done. i have a bit of soreness here and there, but hot epsom salt baths and arnica are doing the trick so far. > > ok, let's make some more music soon! > pg From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Wed Feb 25 15:50:55 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:50:55 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Bertram Turetzky/Damon Smith Duo Release Message-ID: <0BE44AD6-7629-447E-9C04-F5C10EE87B39@balancepointacoustics.com> $15 PP worldwide by paypal to: damon at balancepointacoustics.com Emusic: http://www.emusic.com/album/Bertram-Turetzky-Thoughtbeetle-MP3- Download/11384526.html itunes: https://buy.itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZFinance.woa/wa/tellAFriend? id=305303630&type=2 Bertram Turetzky / Damon Smith Thoughtbeetle Five studio and two concert improvisations for two double basses Bertram Turetzky - double bass Damon Smith - double bass Recorded Sunday, Nov 11 2007 1510 8th St Performance Space Recorded, Mixed and Mastered by Scott R. Looney The titles are English translation of German compound words invented by Paul Celan. http://www.myspace.com/turetzky Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Thu Feb 26 20:28:27 2009 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 20:28:27 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Tuba Harmonics Message-ID: Hey, does anyone know how far up the harmonic series it is comfortable for a tubist to play, both CC and BBb? Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From slusser at pixar.com Sat Feb 28 12:50:11 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 12:50:11 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot In-Reply-To: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2414AC03-83AB-474A-AE25-9C0BEBF899D2@pixar.com> On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > I watched the Hot Spot the other night, a film by Dennis Hopper > from 1990. It is a film noir with Don Johnson set in a small Texas > town. The original music for the movie was a great mixture of > jazz, different types of blues in a free flowing way. Improvised > feeling but fitting in really well with the telling of the story. > It featured Miles Davis, John Lee Hooker, Taj Mahal and Roy > Rogers. I wonder if they ever performed together. From Gary Rydstrom, who did the film mix: "My memory is they got together and recorded live. Miles and John Lee Hooker, under the guidance of Jack Nitsche. Wish I had seen that!" liner notes from Dennis Hopper, director: "I want to give special thanks to God, who let me live long enough to fulfill a dream to hire Jack Nitzsche, who I met when he worked for Phil Spector, and later when he was working for Neil Young - those days that nobody seems to remember. To Miles Davis, who I have known since I was 17, who punched out the heroin dealer and said he would kill me if I ever did it again. I've wanted him to score every movie I've ever made and we finally got it together, man." From liberatednsf at yahoo.com Sat Feb 28 15:05:45 2009 From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:05:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot References: <46388.51734.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com> <2414AC03-83AB-474A-AE25-9C0BEBF899D2@pixar.com> Message-ID: <594458.53376.qm@web30605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Jack Nitzsche=seriously under-rated.? I see his name; I watch the movie.? It's that easy.? Not to mention Willy Deville.?? ? Andrew http://oudevoida.blogspot.com ----- Original Message ---- From: David Slusser To: Jon Raskin Cc: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:50:11 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > I watched the Hot Spot the other night, a film by Dennis Hopper? > from 1990.? It is a film noir with Don Johnson set in a small Texas? > town.? The original music for the movie was a great mixture of? > jazz, different types of blues in a free flowing way. Improvised? > feeling but fitting in really well with the telling of the story. > It featured Miles Davis, John Lee Hooker, Taj Mahal and Roy? > Rogers.? I wonder if they ever performed together. From Gary Rydstrom, who did the film mix: "My memory is they got together and recorded live. Miles and John Lee Hooker, under the guidance of Jack Nitsche.? Wish I had seen that!" liner notes from Dennis Hopper, director: "I want to give special thanks to God, who let me live long enough to fulfill a dream to hire Jack Nitzsche, who I met when he worked for Phil Spector, and later when he was working for Neil Young - those days that nobody seems to remember.? To Miles Davis, who I have known since I was 17, who punched out the heroin dealer and said he would kill me if I ever did it again.? I've wanted him to score every movie I've ever made and we finally got it together, man." _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Sat Feb 28 15:13:39 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 15:13:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot In-Reply-To: <594458.53376.qm@web30605.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <778673.25735.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> word. --- On Sat, 2/28/09, andrew wilshusen wrote: > Jack Nitzsche=seriously under-rated.? I see his name; I > watch the movie.? It's that easy.? Not to mention > Willy Deville.?? > > ? > Andrew > > > http://oudevoida.blogspot.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Slusser > To: Jon Raskin > Cc: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 12:50:11 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] The Hot Spot > > On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:37 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > > I watched the Hot Spot the other night, a film by > Dennis Hopper? > > from 1990.? It is a film noir with Don Johnson set in > a small Texas? > > town.? The original music for the movie was a great > mixture of? > > jazz, different types of blues in a free flowing way. > Improvised? > > feeling but fitting in really well with the telling of > the story. > > It featured Miles Davis, John Lee Hooker, Taj Mahal > and Roy? > > Rogers.? I wonder if they ever performed together. > > >From Gary Rydstrom, who did the film mix: > "My memory is they got together and recorded live. > Miles and John Lee Hooker, under the guidance of Jack > Nitsche.? Wish I had seen that!" > > liner notes from Dennis Hopper, director: > "I want to give special thanks to God, who let me live > long enough to fulfill a dream to hire Jack Nitzsche, > who I met when he worked for Phil Spector, and later > when he was working for Neil Young - those days > that nobody seems to remember.? To Miles Davis, who > I have known since I was 17, who punched out the > heroin dealer and said he would kill me if I ever did > it again.? I've wanted him to score every movie > I've > ever made and we finally got it together, man." > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic