[NewMusic] music and politics

[Alicia Byer]

well the cops are just the final violent arm of the 'justice' system & 
legislative system.. easy to blame the individual cops when it's the 
whole justice system that creates them. it's almost like blaming the 
messenger for a violent message. yeah, there are lots of fucked-up cops 
but they are kind of just dumb fucks that are following orders, and 
mistakes often happen on the 'front lines' of cultural warfare.. which 
is what the kent state thing was, and that's what racism is.. I'm not 
excusing it, just saying that it goes deeper than cops. I mean I was 
wrongfully arrested once and had a shotgun and 6-7 handguns waved in my 
face, they had 10 cop cars, I thought i was going to die. wrongfully 
handcuffed, felt up by some cop dude, shoved in a cop car, questioned 
for an hour.. they thought I shot somebody. when i was 15. they didn't 
apologize. I hated cops for a while. but shit happens.

alicia

David Slusser wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Alicia Byer wrote:
>   
>> ...moves it from the realm of 'vicious racist nazi cop' to
>> 'lethally ignorant utter moron'. I don't know which is worse, if they
>> both end in death. The level of negligent moronitude in the country
>> frankly scares me more because it's more widespread
>>     
>
> I hesitate responding, since I don't believe there are any real
> answers.  Gaza and Oakland distress and depress me. I'm
> scared of cop mentality.  I'm scared of nationalist mentality.
> I think cop mentality includes both of Alicia's descriptions.
> My attitude towards police was formed when they were
> beating the shit out of protesters and harassing longhairs in
> the sixties.  I couldn't get over the shootings of students at
> Kent State (by National Guard), which happened 14 miles from
> my house when I was a senior in high school.  You can't believe
> that "we're all the same" when these things happen.  Most cops
> are goons the way George W. Bush is a goon for the oil cartel;
> utterly moronic, racist, and deadly dangerous.  Yes, I am
> prejudiced.
>
> What we do doesn't even register as music with these people.
> It's bad enough that art's been devalued - there's actual
> hostility toward it.  Watch out for tazers at 21Grand.
>
>
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