From fenlonorama at gmail.com Mon Mar 2 14:34:46 2009 From: fenlonorama at gmail.com (Andrew Fenlon) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:34:46 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Tuba Harmonics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: all brass instruments are pretty much the same two octaves up from the lowest C or Bb. That's the highest note for the most part, as the notes above it can only be hit comfortably by certain players. On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Matthew Goodheart < matthew at matthewgoodheart.com> wrote: > Hey, does anyone know how far up the harmonic series it is comfortable > for a tubist to play, both CC and BBb? > > > Matthew Goodheart > composer ~ improviser ~ pianist > matthew at matthewgoodheart.com > http://matthewgoodheart.com > http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Mon Mar 2 14:43:15 2009 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 14:43:15 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Tuba Harmonics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks. After talking to a variety of folks, it seems like the 10th partial is comfortable for professional orchestral tuba players, though it's pretty intense up there; (The French Horn, of course, can go up to the 16th , but the piccolo tpt seems like about the 5th is safe.) Anyway thanks everyone for all the responses. mg On Mar 2, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Andrew Fenlon wrote: > all brass instruments are pretty much the same > two octaves up from the lowest C or Bb. That's the highest note for > the most > part, as the notes above it can only be hit comfortably by certain > players. > > On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Matthew Goodheart < > matthew at matthewgoodheart.com> wrote: > >> Hey, does anyone know how far up the harmonic series it is >> comfortable >> for a tubist to play, both CC and BBb? >> >> >> Matthew Goodheart >> composer ~ improviser ~ pianist >> matthew at matthewgoodheart.com >> http://matthewgoodheart.com >> http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Mar 2 15:56:23 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 15:56:23 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Tuba Harmonics In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29E42C4E-9B2B-4E0B-8C74-EC3E62A02746@balancepointacoustics.com> You should email Hubsch, I think the Tuba has a Wider range than most others, like the double bass. On Mar 2, 2009, at 2:43 PM, Matthew Goodheart wrote: > Thanks. After talking to a variety of folks, it seems like the 10th > partial is comfortable for professional orchestral tuba players, > though it's pretty intense up there; (The French Horn, of course, can > go up to the 16th , but the piccolo tpt seems like about the 5th is > safe.) Anyway thanks everyone for all the responses. > > mg > > > > On Mar 2, 2009, at 2:34 PM, Andrew Fenlon wrote: > >> all brass instruments are pretty much the same >> two octaves up from the lowest C or Bb. That's the highest note for >> the most >> part, as the notes above it can only be hit comfortably by certain >> players. >> >> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 8:28 PM, Matthew Goodheart < >> matthew at matthewgoodheart.com> wrote: >> >>> Hey, does anyone know how far up the harmonic series it is >>> comfortable >>> for a tubist to play, both CC and BBb? >>> >>> >>> Matthew Goodheart >>> composer ~ improviser ~ pianist >>> matthew at matthewgoodheart.com >>> http://matthewgoodheart.com >>> http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > Matthew Goodheart > composer ~ improviser ~ pianist > matthew at matthewgoodheart.com > http://matthewgoodheart.com > http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From matt at sfsound.org Mon Mar 2 16:01:35 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:01:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] ligeti requiem Message-ID: <8CDCDE7F-3CCE-4DCA-A420-20BBA252AADB@sfsound.org> the symphony is doing ligeti's requiem this week (!!) -- i would assume this wont get performed again anytime soon.. woops looks like its sold out - (probably due to martha argerich not ligeti!) m@ From djcypod at gmail.com Tue Mar 3 21:31:12 2009 From: djcypod at gmail.com (b) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 21:31:12 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: References: <5B4703C3-3C58-4347-8B78-5BE9FF5A7C71@gmail.com> Message-ID: what if the shows went presale only, could you consider them a private gathering? On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Some local venues have required the show-goers to call to get the > venue address. Does that help at all? > > We don't want you getting arrested for little old us! > > Matt > > Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> was all: >> Uh, the cops could still bust us. But that's okay, I think I'm the only one >> that would get arrested/fined! >> >> sl > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Tue Mar 3 21:40:53 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:40:53 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] T-shirt question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: It doesn't matter if it's private or public, the event that led to us being "busted" was a private party held by the bar next door. If it's happening in a commercial building, it doesn't matter in the eyes of the City of Oakland. Other cities may be different. Oakland's sprinkler requirements are much stricter than San Francisco's. sl on 3/3/09 9:31 PM, b at djcypod at gmail.com wrote: > what if the shows went presale only, could you consider them a private > gathering? > > On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> Some local venues have required the show-goers to call to get the >> venue address. Does that help at all? >> >> We don't want you getting arrested for little old us! >> >> Matt >> >> Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> was all: >>> Uh, the cops could still bust us. But that's okay, I think I'm the only one >>> that would get arrested/fined! >>> >>> sl >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From shiurba at pacbell.net Wed Mar 4 19:33:05 2009 From: shiurba at pacbell.net (John Shiurba) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:33:05 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] garments left at Temescal show Message-ID: <9A3B93F8-C273-41E4-8BBD-F3BF173AEBF4@pacbell.net> If you left your brown hoodie and scarf at Temescal last night, contact me offlist. From michaelz at zoka.com Wed Mar 4 19:56:35 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 19:56:35 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] garments left at Temescal show In-Reply-To: <9A3B93F8-C273-41E4-8BBD-F3BF173AEBF4@pacbell.net> References: <9A3B93F8-C273-41E4-8BBD-F3BF173AEBF4@pacbell.net> Message-ID: On 3/4/09, John Shiurba wrote: >If you left your brown hoodie and scarf at Temescal last night, >contact me offlist. That's odd, I didn't think Gino was there last night. MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Thu Mar 5 10:11:02 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 10:11:02 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] the rosenberg digits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <688202.41175.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hey! Can someone email me with Scott Rosenberg's phone number? Thanks in advance! PG From otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 12:29:51 2009 From: otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com (Otis McCoppin) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 12:29:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance Message-ID: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57?73 Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, yet the definition of the word ?generative? is elusive, especially when multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to find and describe what links these coded art works. http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf From mattdavignon at gmail.com Thu Mar 5 13:26:39 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:26:39 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance In-Reply-To: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Ah - is this one of those blank slates where if I type text it gets all echoey and soundwarpy? Otis McCoppin was all: From letucepry at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 13:30:27 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:30:27 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <800674.84402.qm@web54305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> in principal this +v?z???????n?+?z?^r&??,!zy?????????+???z)??[?u8b?????^{e????????`zw?j??zk??)?v&?z???f?q?????????b?{"????????h~)?jw]z?+?????e?y,??y?y??? +??m????!?Z ?*a???o??????bh??~??jw???k +y?^??????????*'?.???2?"rk?????[v?m?????"rh????????Y???b??? sounds pretty cool... lettuce ________________________________ From: Matt Davignon To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:26:39 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance Ah - is this one of those blank slates where if I type text it gets all echoey and soundwarpy? Otis McCoppin was all: _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From michaelz at zoka.com Thu Mar 5 13:48:45 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 13:48:45 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance In-Reply-To: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: From the list archive: On 3/5/09, Otis McCoppin wrote: >Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg >Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57-73 > >Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, >yet the definition of the word 'generative' is elusive, especially when >multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several >generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to >find and describe what links these coded art works. > >http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From letucepry at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 14:03:06 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:03:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <669947.31126.qm@web54306.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Looks very interesting from the paper... ? ________________________________ From: Michael Zelner To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:48:45 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance From the list archive: On 3/5/09, Otis McCoppin wrote: >Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg >Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57-73 > >Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, >yet the definition of the word 'generative' is elusive, especially when >multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several >generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to >find and describe what links these coded art works. > >http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 14:59:35 2009 From: otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com (Otis McCoppin) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 14:59:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance Message-ID: <237029.90536.qm@web38306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Squigy is now gone, paper gone, due to squigulations. Sorry! --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: From: Ron Lettuce Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:03 PM Looks very interesting from the paper... ? ________________________________ From: Michael Zelner To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:48:45 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >From the list archive: On 3/5/09, Otis McCoppin wrote: >Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg >Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57-73 > >Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, >yet the definition of the word 'generative' is elusive, especially when >multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several >generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to >find and describe what links these coded art works. > >http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From 21grand at 21grand.org Thu Mar 5 15:04:09 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:04:09 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance In-Reply-To: <237029.90536.qm@web38306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I liked Lenny better anyway. sl on 3/5/09 2:59 PM, Otis McCoppin at otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com wrote: > Squigy is now gone, paper gone, due to squigulations. Sorry! > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: > > From: Ron Lettuce > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:03 PM > > Looks very interesting from the paper... > > > ? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Zelner > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:48:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance > >> From the list archive: > > On 3/5/09, Otis McCoppin wrote: > >> Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >> By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg >> Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57-73 >> >> Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, >> yet the definition of the word 'generative' is elusive, especially when >> multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several >> generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to >> find and describe what links these coded art works. >> >> http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf > > > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com Thu Mar 5 16:35:43 2009 From: otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com (Otis McCoppin) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 16:35:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance Message-ID: <893643.88069.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> There once was a man from Nantucket...who had a......... --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance To: "Banewmus List" Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 3:04 PM I liked Lenny better anyway. sl on 3/5/09 2:59 PM, Otis McCoppin at otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com wrote: > Squigy is now gone, paper gone, due to squigulations. Sorry! > > --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Ron Lettuce wrote: > > From: Ron Lettuce > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 2:03 PM > > Looks very interesting from the paper... > > > ? > > > > ________________________________ > From: Michael Zelner > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Thursday, March 5, 2009 1:48:45 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance > >> From the list archive: > > On 3/5/09, Otis McCoppin wrote: > >> Generative Techniques in Hypermedia Performance >> By Margaret Schedel and Alison Rootberg >> Contemporary Music Review, Vol. 28, No. 1, February 2009, pp. 57-73 >> >> Generative techniques have become extremely popular in electronic art forms, >> yet the definition of the word 'generative' is elusive, especially when >> multiple art forms are involved. This article explores several >> generative multimedia performances and installations in an attempt to >> find and describe what links these coded art works. >> >> http://www.hologlyphics.com/Hypermedia_Performance.pdf > > > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mail at purelovepower.com Sat Mar 7 00:15:16 2009 From: mail at purelovepower.com (john hanes) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 00:15:16 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] lloopp In-Reply-To: References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5C9DB78C-FA49-4050-9222-C3653066686F@purelovepower.com> Hi List - John Hanes here, jeopardizing my almost-perfect lurker status. I use a max/msp based program called lloopp, which many of you are no doubt familiar with. The creators of lloopp, Klaus Filip and Arnold Haberl, are doing a presentation at the c74 conference and are looking for performance/collaboration possibilities. A couple of examples of what they do: http://jokebux.klingt.org/gro.tgnilk/mp3s/2407/index.html http://jokebux.klingt.org/gro.tgnilk/mp3s/2406/index.html If anyone has any ideas for possible shows they/we (we as in me plus any other interested parties) could do, any and all help is appreciated. they arrive 4/14 and the conference is 4/21-4/24 (yeah, I know, kinda late to be getting this together). -john From suki at zoka.com Sat Mar 7 10:14:08 2009 From: suki at zoka.com (Suki O'Kane) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:14:08 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor In-Reply-To: <5C9DB78C-FA49-4050-9222-C3653066686F@purelovepower.com> References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5C9DB78C-FA49-4050-9222-C3653066686F@purelovepower.com> Message-ID: Sound / Intermedia artists are invited to participate in an upcoming Illuminated Corridor inspired by Middle Harbor Shoreline Park in Oakland, California. This call is for * community input * sound art, field recordings, and * film and video for screening and live performance. Please feel free to forward this announcement. project description: http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html about middle harbor shoreline park: http://www.ebparks.org/parks/middle_harbor background on illCorr artist calls: http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/callforartists.html ways to get involved: community art charettes: attend gatherings of artists in Middle Harbor Shoreline park to discuss the park's history, ecology and creative potential. deadline: ongoing through June 2009 next one: saturday, march 14 11am learn more http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html port radio: an open call for audio content destined for a webcast and broadcast series that juxtaposes the local experience of Middle Harbor Shoreline Park as a working shipping container facility with content from ports around the world, inviting listeners to discover commonalities and differences. deadline for submissions: may 1 2009 learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/portradio.html subtidal goals an open call for original works of film and video (all formats) destined for a live cinema event that envisions life just below the surface of Middle Harbor Shoreline Park. deadline for submissions: april 1, 2009 learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/subtidalgoals.html -- suki o'kane mailto:suki at zoka.com http://www.myspace.com/sukiokane From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com Sat Mar 7 14:44:26 2009 From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 14:44:26 -0800 Subject: [NewMusic] multichannel firewire interfaces? Message-ID: <1B5D5A3D-DFD4-4EB4-9DD5-D2B631EEF038@matthewgoodheart.com> Greetings folks- I'm looking to get a multichannel interface, and wondered what people's experiences are. I will mostly be doing multichannel output, not much recording. I'm also looking at the cheaper end of things: So far I've been looking at the Presonus fp10 - which is within my price range, and I've had good luck with my Inspire interface. I also like that you can daisy chain them - (which you can't with the firebox, so that one's out - I want to be able to expand in the future.) The motu Ultralight is a little more than I can afford, and I know lots of people who have had consistent problems with Motus. If I hadn't heard about so many people having them die, I'd probably spend the extra dough for this. RME is out of my price range. I know nothing about the Edirol, Focus right, or any of those. If anyone has used them, how is their reliability? Portability is appreciated, too. . . mg Matthew Goodheart composer ~ improviser ~ pianist matthew at matthewgoodheart.com http://matthewgoodheart.com http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart From djcypod at gmail.com Sun Mar 8 15:19:22 2009 From: djcypod at gmail.com (b) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2009 15:19:22 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] big love In-Reply-To: <258201.4814.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <258201.4814.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: hope you feel better soon pg! On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Phillip Greenlief wrote: > thanks for the words, tom. you're a dear friend, my man. > > i'm feeling pretty good considering the impact i took in that crash. the car was totaled, like...wham. done. i have a bit of soreness here and there, but hot epsom salt baths and arnica are doing the trick so far. > > ok, let's make some more music soon! > pg > > > > --- On Sun, 2/22/09, Tom Dill wrote: > >> From: Tom Dill >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] big love >> To: newmusic at music.mills.edu >> Date: Sunday, February 22, 2009, 9:13 PM >> Holy hell Phillip!!! >> >> You are a walking miracle man. I doubt there are many who >> could take >> such crappy raw life-material and shape it into a positive, >> >> transformative experience. >> >> All love back and be well, td >> >> >> >> On Feb 22, 2009, at 9:00 PM, >> newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: >> >> > Message: 5 >> > Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 13:24:53 -0800 (PST) >> > From: Phillip Greenlief >> > Subject: [NewMusic] big love >> > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> >> > Message-ID: >> <774929.83103.qm at web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> >> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >> > >> > dear friends on the ba new mus list, >> > >> > i was in a really bad car accident yesterday on the >> bay bridge - it >> > was a five car pile-up, and i was car #3 in the midst >> of the auto- >> > sandwich. i wasn't at fault...a woman slammed into >> me from behind, >> > forcing me to plough into the car in front of me, and >> that car hit >> > the car in front of it...blah blah blah... >> > >> > i turned 50 this week, as some of you may know, it >> it's been an >> > interesting week! at the end of the day yesterday (i >> marched on to >> > my clubfoot rehearsal after the wreck - the car i was >> borrowing was >> > totaled...the rehearsal actually helped me to feel >> better) i lie in >> > bed and kept asking myself why did this happen??? >> > >> > the resolution i came to was that perhaps this >> happened to remind me >> > of how lucky i am to be alive. i've been pretty >> cavalier about death >> > over the past few years...a lot of heavy shit has gone >> down in my >> > life, and there have been many times when i just >> wanted to chuck in >> > the towel. i see myself as a modern day warrior, and >> include you all >> > in that position. we struggle and fight to make our >> voices heard, >> > and to create art in an environment that isn't >> always friendly to >> > us. the warrior code my ancestors lived by was: >> "today is a good day >> > to die"....well, i done used up one of my lives >> yesterday. >> > >> > anyway, (i'm getting to my point, i promise!), i >> just wanted to >> > write to the list and say how happy i am to be a part >> of this >> > community. i feel incredibly blessed to know ALL of >> you, to see and >> > hear you all in the process of your musical evolution, >> and to be a >> > part of it some small way. >> > >> > i want to thank all of you that have shared your time >> with me on >> > stage, off stage, in the studio, in the mixing booth, >> mastering >> > booth, in rehearsal, at lanesplitters late night >> chewing on pizza, >> > in cars or vans on tour, late night sitting up >> watching films and >> > philosophizing, hanging out and listening to music >> together, >> > toasting a blunt, and in general, just being a part of >> this amazing >> > music scene here in the bay area. i keep reminding >> myself that i am >> > LUCKY to have so much music in my life and to have so >> many willing >> > comrades that seem to be happy to give time to musical >> projects i >> > dream up, or that ask me to participate in projects >> you dream up. >> > you all make my life (and the world we live in) a >> beautiful thing, >> > and i will be thankful for that for the rest of my >> days. >> > >> > big love to all of you today and always, >> > phillip greenlief >> > >> >> >> Tom Djll >> 227 Otis St. >> Santa Cruz, CA 95060 >> (831) 429-8072 ?home >> (831) 423-3050 office >> (831) 320-1489 cell >> djll at sonic.net >> tom at mythmaker.com >> www.mythmaker.com >> >> Music, calendar, & bio: >> http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll >> >> More music w/sound snippets: >> http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer >> >> Photography: >> http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From ps_patrice at hotmail.com Mon Mar 9 09:35:19 2009 From: ps_patrice at hotmail.com (Patrice Scanlon) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:35:19 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor In-Reply-To: References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5C9DB78C-FA49-4050-9222-C3653066686F@purelovepower.com> Message-ID: Count me in! I'll be doing some motion tracking stuff of me dancing through a projection this time around... provided there is noooo rain or a lil roof to be under.Much love,Patrice > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:14:08 -0800 > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > From: suki at zoka.com > Subject: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor > > Sound / Intermedia artists are invited to participate in an upcoming > Illuminated Corridor inspired by Middle Harbor Shoreline Park in > Oakland, California. This call is for > > * community input > * sound art, field recordings, and > * film and video for screening and live performance. > > Please feel free to forward this announcement. > > project description: > http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html > > about middle harbor shoreline park: > http://www.ebparks.org/parks/middle_harbor > > background on illCorr artist calls: > http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/callforartists.html > > ways to get involved: > > community art charettes: > attend gatherings of artists in Middle Harbor Shoreline park to > discuss the park's history, ecology and creative potential. > deadline: ongoing through June 2009 > next one: saturday, march 14 11am > learn more http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html > > port radio: > an open call for audio content destined for a webcast and broadcast > series that juxtaposes the local experience of Middle Harbor > Shoreline Park as a working shipping container facility with content > from ports around the world, inviting listeners to discover > commonalities and differences. > deadline for submissions: may 1 2009 > learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/portradio.html > > subtidal goals > an open call for original works of film and video (all formats) > destined for a live cinema event that envisions life just below the > surface of Middle Harbor Shoreline Park. > deadline for submissions: april 1, 2009 > learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/subtidalgoals.html > -- > > suki o'kane > mailto:suki at zoka.com > http://www.myspace.com/sukiokane > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 From ps_patrice at hotmail.com Mon Mar 9 09:36:33 2009 From: ps_patrice at hotmail.com (Patrice Scanlon) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:36:33 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor In-Reply-To: References: <923904.2827.qm@web38302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <5C9DB78C-FA49-4050-9222-C3653066686F@purelovepower.com> Message-ID: Damn it... I hate it when I reply to the whole list. Love you all in Bay area new music land.Patrice > From: ps_patrice at hotmail.com > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 09:35:19 -0700 > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor > > > Count me in! I'll be doing some motion tracking stuff of me dancing through a projection this time around... provided there is noooo rain or a lil roof to be under.Much love,Patrice > > > Date: Sat, 7 Mar 2009 10:14:08 -0800 > > To: newmusic at music.mills.edu > > From: suki at zoka.com > > Subject: [NewMusic] Call for Artists: Illuminated Corridor > > > > Sound / Intermedia artists are invited to participate in an upcoming > > Illuminated Corridor inspired by Middle Harbor Shoreline Park in > > Oakland, California. This call is for > > > > * community input > > * sound art, field recordings, and > > * film and video for screening and live performance. > > > > Please feel free to forward this announcement. > > > > project description: > > http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html > > > > about middle harbor shoreline park: > > http://www.ebparks.org/parks/middle_harbor > > > > background on illCorr artist calls: > > http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/callforartists.html > > > > ways to get involved: > > > > community art charettes: > > attend gatherings of artists in Middle Harbor Shoreline park to > > discuss the park's history, ecology and creative potential. > > deadline: ongoing through June 2009 > > next one: saturday, march 14 11am > > learn more http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/20090509.html > > > > port radio: > > an open call for audio content destined for a webcast and broadcast > > series that juxtaposes the local experience of Middle Harbor > > Shoreline Park as a working shipping container facility with content > > from ports around the world, inviting listeners to discover > > commonalities and differences. > > deadline for submissions: may 1 2009 > > learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/portradio.html > > > > subtidal goals > > an open call for original works of film and video (all formats) > > destined for a live cinema event that envisions life just below the > > surface of Middle Harbor Shoreline Park. > > deadline for submissions: april 1, 2009 > > learn more at http://www.illuminatedcorridor.com/subtidalgoals.html > > -- > > > > suki o'kane > > mailto:suki at zoka.com > > http://www.myspace.com/sukiokane > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live? Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. > http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=T_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Mar 9 14:45:10 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:45:10 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] FW: Attn: Sarah Lockheart; Teaching Artist Research Project In-Reply-To: <20090309163820.BUL94762@m4500-01.uchicago.edu> Message-ID: Some well-meaning researcher at the U of Chicago sent this to me, and even though they misspelled my last name, I am forwarding this email. They are conducting a survey on artists who work as teachers. If this applies to you and you want to participate in this survey, info is below. sl ------ Forwarded Message From: Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 16:38:20 -0500 (CDT) To: <21grand at 21grand.org> Subject: Attn: Sarah Lockheart; Teaching Artist Research Project Dear Ms. Sarah Lockheart, Exec Director/Programming Director, The first phase of the Teaching Artist Research Project, a survey of teaching artists in 12 locations across the U.S., has now gone live! I need your help to make sure we get as large a response as possible. Tens of thousands of artists work for arts education, youth, or outreach programs and make enormous contributions to schools, young people, and communities across the country. Despite the economic challenges we face, this is a moment in which it may be possible to extend their reach, deepen their impact, and make their work more sustainable and sustaining. We need your help in these ways: 1.Please register now for the survey if you are a teaching artist. Just go to http://teachingartists.uchicago.edu. You will receive a link to the survey via email as soon as it ?goes live? in the San Francisco area. 2.Then forward this email to five, ten, twenty or more friends and colleagues and encourage them to register and forward the email on to their friends and colleagues. A personal word of encouragement will help a lot. 3.Please email me back at teachingartists at uchicago.edu and let me know if your org hires teaching artists and if so, how many teaching artists works at your org, who the teaching artist manager is, and any teaching artist email contact information you can give me that would help me contact teaching artists in your area. We have a sizeable list of artists already, but we are sure there are many, many more. So we?re asking for your help to ?go viral?. It?s vital that the survey reflect the diverse experiences and perspectives of the whole field. Your broad experience has put you in touch with so many programs and so many artists, I would so appreciate it if you?d take some time and forward this note. As a token of our appreciation, everyone who completes the survey will receive a free CD with two remarkable stories about teaching artists? work from the archives of Ira Glass? This American Life. Please start the ball rolling by registering and forwarding this email now! Thank you for your time and I look forward to hearing from you soon. Sincerely, Mary Duncan Research Assistant Teaching Artists Research Project University of Chicago Survey Lab Ph: 773-834-6913, Fax: 773-834-7412 Email: teachingartists at uchicago.edu ------ End of Forwarded Message From barry.threw at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 17:34:16 2009 From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:34:16 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> Message-ID: <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. 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Suspendisse odio nibh, tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. barry threw Media Art and Technology San Francisco, CA Work: 857-544-3967 Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com Web: www.barrythrew.com From matt at sfsound.org Tue Mar 10 17:37:05 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:37:05 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST In-Reply-To: <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> thanks barry for getting this back up! i was going to post something like this yeserday: so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too much given current economy? On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw wrote: > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. > In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. > Quisque commodo magna a enim. 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Suspendisse odio nibh, > tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. > > barry threw > Media Art and Technology > > San Francisco, CA > Work: 857-544-3967 > Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com > Web: www.barrythrew.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic m@ From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 17:38:37 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:38:37 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST In-Reply-To: <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: It's working on both counts - I'm receiving this email via the list, and great Azathoth is arriving through the portal. On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw wrote: > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. > In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. > Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing > vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum > metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum > mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. Fusce > cursus, diam quis dapibus faucibus, purus augue varius orci, et > sollicitudin sapien sapien sit amet massa. Morbi metus eros, dignissim > sit amet, iaculis sed, volutpat quis, turpis. Lorem ipsum dolor sit > amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam nibh arcu, dignissim > vulputate, feugiat ut, sodales ut, metus. Vestibulum leo. Nulla erat > eros, aliquam ut, pulvinar congue, posuere sed, dolor. Aliquam nec > dui. Nullam non diam ut ipsum posuere consectetur. > > Etiam venenatis. Aenean sollicitudin quam vel velit. Fusce leo lacus, > euismod in, commodo eget, auctor ac, quam. Vivamus vel ligula eu elit > condimentum fermentum. Sed tristique nunc et ligula. Aliquam erat > volutpat. Integer posuere urna sed ante blandit rutrum. Etiam gravida > dui in augue. Aenean justo mauris, gravida sed, pulvinar nec, feugiat > nec, urna. Aliquam sit amet est euismod purus tempor porta. Vestibulum > pulvinar. Fusce euismod lectus nec orci. Quisque non odio. Donec > lorem. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Mauris et lorem. > > Aenean posuere, nibh sed congue placerat, enim magna faucibus sem, a > varius elit arcu at magna. Morbi sed ligula. Vestibulum quis diam in > nibh elementum ornare. Sed laoreet elementum risus. Suspendisse dui. > Ut lobortis. In nulla. Suspendisse ligula quam, ornare vel, vulputate > eget, sodales quis, est. Nam et justo. Nulla luctus porta ante. > Pellentesque feugiat, augue ut volutpat tempor, justo augue tincidunt > nunc, id vehicula mi neque eget leo. Maecenas nec nunc vulputate quam > tempus ullamcorper. Aliquam eu enim ac lorem consectetur egestas. > Aenean mi. Etiam a nibh at ipsum eleifend imperdiet. Mauris quam nisl, > tristique ut, ullamcorper sit amet, rutrum ac, mauris. Sed velit. > Proin luctus ligula vel arcu porttitor malesuada. Nullam erat nisi, > tincidunt eu, luctus vel, porta eget, ligula. > > Aliquam hendrerit condimentum nibh. Duis in erat vel est vulputate > interdum. Nullam non felis in urna commodo condimentum. In hendrerit > nibh et massa. Proin lacus. Pellentesque tristique nulla. Sed > vestibulum lorem et sapien. Nullam suscipit ornare massa. Integer > blandit feugiat dui. Morbi ut est non mauris tempus congue. > Suspendisse tellus libero, pulvinar porta, consequat sed, sollicitudin > eu, purus. Mauris mi sapien, malesuada iaculis, aliquam eget, interdum > id, nisi. Pellentesque accumsan dapibus lorem. Nullam leo augue, > volutpat et, scelerisque nec, dapibus vitae, nibh. Cras quis magna. > Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada > fames ac turpis egestas. Maecenas consectetur, eros eget semper > placerat, orci arcu dignissim ligula, nec venenatis nulla metus nec > nibh. > > Nullam aliquet, risus at dictum accumsan, lorem massa pretium libero, > id ornare lorem dolor sed dolor. Praesent luctus, justo sed semper > venenatis, sem quam aliquet metus, non varius libero purus at neque. > Nullam eu metus ut massa interdum tincidunt. Cum sociis natoque > penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. > Nunc rhoncus nisl nec velit. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique > senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Aenean > faucibus tincidunt nulla. Nam dolor sapien, aliquet eget, pretium at, > lobortis et, orci. Cras viverra feugiat purus. Ut est nisi, molestie > sit amet, commodo in, dapibus quis, urna. Suspendisse odio nibh, > tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. > > barry threw > Media Art and Technology > > San Francisco, CA > Work: 857-544-3967 > Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com > Web: www.barrythrew.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From barry.threw at gmail.com Tue Mar 10 17:45:33 2009 From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:45:33 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST In-Reply-To: References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <7C8CA3B1-C2F3-461B-9EF9-55F5AB15C045@gmail.com> Yeah, I forgot to mention, don't read this email out loud while holding your right foot on a Gutenberg. Bad Things Happen. bt On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It's working on both counts - I'm receiving this email via the list, > and > great Azathoth is arriving through the portal. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw > wrote: > >> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. >> In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. >> Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing >> vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum >> metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum >> mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. Fusce >> cursus, diam quis dapibus faucibus, purus augue varius orci, et >> sollicitudin sapien sapien sit amet massa. Morbi metus eros, >> dignissim >> sit amet, iaculis sed, volutpat quis, turpis. Lorem ipsum dolor sit >> amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam nibh arcu, dignissim >> vulputate, feugiat ut, sodales ut, metus. Vestibulum leo. Nulla erat >> eros, aliquam ut, pulvinar congue, posuere sed, dolor. Aliquam nec >> dui. Nullam non diam ut ipsum posuere consectetur. >> >> Etiam venenatis. Aenean sollicitudin quam vel velit. Fusce leo lacus, >> euismod in, commodo eget, auctor ac, quam. Vivamus vel ligula eu elit >> condimentum fermentum. Sed tristique nunc et ligula. Aliquam erat >> volutpat. Integer posuere urna sed ante blandit rutrum. Etiam gravida >> dui in augue. Aenean justo mauris, gravida sed, pulvinar nec, feugiat >> nec, urna. Aliquam sit amet est euismod purus tempor porta. >> Vestibulum >> pulvinar. Fusce euismod lectus nec orci. Quisque non odio. Donec >> lorem. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Mauris et lorem. >> >> Aenean posuere, nibh sed congue placerat, enim magna faucibus sem, a >> varius elit arcu at magna. Morbi sed ligula. Vestibulum quis diam in >> nibh elementum ornare. Sed laoreet elementum risus. Suspendisse dui. >> Ut lobortis. In nulla. Suspendisse ligula quam, ornare vel, vulputate >> eget, sodales quis, est. Nam et justo. Nulla luctus porta ante. >> Pellentesque feugiat, augue ut volutpat tempor, justo augue tincidunt >> nunc, id vehicula mi neque eget leo. Maecenas nec nunc vulputate quam >> tempus ullamcorper. Aliquam eu enim ac lorem consectetur egestas. >> Aenean mi. Etiam a nibh at ipsum eleifend imperdiet. Mauris quam >> nisl, >> tristique ut, ullamcorper sit amet, rutrum ac, mauris. Sed velit. >> Proin luctus ligula vel arcu porttitor malesuada. Nullam erat nisi, >> tincidunt eu, luctus vel, porta eget, ligula. >> >> Aliquam hendrerit condimentum nibh. Duis in erat vel est vulputate >> interdum. Nullam non felis in urna commodo condimentum. In hendrerit >> nibh et massa. Proin lacus. Pellentesque tristique nulla. Sed >> vestibulum lorem et sapien. Nullam suscipit ornare massa. Integer >> blandit feugiat dui. Morbi ut est non mauris tempus congue. >> Suspendisse tellus libero, pulvinar porta, consequat sed, >> sollicitudin >> eu, purus. Mauris mi sapien, malesuada iaculis, aliquam eget, >> interdum >> id, nisi. Pellentesque accumsan dapibus lorem. Nullam leo augue, >> volutpat et, scelerisque nec, dapibus vitae, nibh. Cras quis magna. >> Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada >> fames ac turpis egestas. Maecenas consectetur, eros eget semper >> placerat, orci arcu dignissim ligula, nec venenatis nulla metus nec >> nibh. >> >> Nullam aliquet, risus at dictum accumsan, lorem massa pretium libero, >> id ornare lorem dolor sed dolor. Praesent luctus, justo sed semper >> venenatis, sem quam aliquet metus, non varius libero purus at neque. >> Nullam eu metus ut massa interdum tincidunt. Cum sociis natoque >> penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. >> Nunc rhoncus nisl nec velit. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique >> senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Aenean >> faucibus tincidunt nulla. Nam dolor sapien, aliquet eget, pretium at, >> lobortis et, orci. Cras viverra feugiat purus. Ut est nisi, molestie >> sit amet, commodo in, dapibus quis, urna. Suspendisse odio nibh, >> tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. >> >> barry threw >> Media Art and Technology >> >> San Francisco, CA >> Work: 857-544-3967 >> Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com >> Web: www.barrythrew.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Tue Mar 10 17:58:25 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 2009 00:58:25 +0000 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST In-Reply-To: <39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com><14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com><39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> Message-ID: <1079196635-1236733055-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872432613-@bxe1255.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> I think there is a festival pass for 250. He has brought a lot of musicians with him so the whole event must be costing Yoshi's a fortune. It's hard to imagine them breaking even on this. Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -----Original Message----- From: matt Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:37:05 To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST thanks barry for getting this back up! i was going to post something like this yeserday: so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too much given current economy? On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw wrote: > Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. > In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. > Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing > vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum > metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum > mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. Fusce > cursus, diam quis dapibus faucibus, purus augue varius orci, et > sollicitudin sapien sapien sit amet massa. Morbi metus eros, dignissim > sit amet, iaculis sed, volutpat quis, turpis. Lorem ipsum dolor sit > amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam nibh arcu, dignissim > vulputate, feugiat ut, sodales ut, metus. Vestibulum leo. Nulla erat > eros, aliquam ut, pulvinar congue, posuere sed, dolor. Aliquam nec > dui. Nullam non diam ut ipsum posuere consectetur. > > Etiam venenatis. Aenean sollicitudin quam vel velit. Fusce leo lacus, > euismod in, commodo eget, auctor ac, quam. Vivamus vel ligula eu elit > condimentum fermentum. Sed tristique nunc et ligula. Aliquam erat > volutpat. Integer posuere urna sed ante blandit rutrum. Etiam gravida > dui in augue. Aenean justo mauris, gravida sed, pulvinar nec, feugiat > nec, urna. Aliquam sit amet est euismod purus tempor porta. Vestibulum > pulvinar. Fusce euismod lectus nec orci. Quisque non odio. Donec > lorem. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Mauris et lorem. > > Aenean posuere, nibh sed congue placerat, enim magna faucibus sem, a > varius elit arcu at magna. Morbi sed ligula. Vestibulum quis diam in > nibh elementum ornare. Sed laoreet elementum risus. Suspendisse dui. > Ut lobortis. In nulla. Suspendisse ligula quam, ornare vel, vulputate > eget, sodales quis, est. Nam et justo. Nulla luctus porta ante. > Pellentesque feugiat, augue ut volutpat tempor, justo augue tincidunt > nunc, id vehicula mi neque eget leo. Maecenas nec nunc vulputate quam > tempus ullamcorper. Aliquam eu enim ac lorem consectetur egestas. > Aenean mi. Etiam a nibh at ipsum eleifend imperdiet. Mauris quam nisl, > tristique ut, ullamcorper sit amet, rutrum ac, mauris. Sed velit. > Proin luctus ligula vel arcu porttitor malesuada. Nullam erat nisi, > tincidunt eu, luctus vel, porta eget, ligula. > > Aliquam hendrerit condimentum nibh. Duis in erat vel est vulputate > interdum. Nullam non felis in urna commodo condimentum. In hendrerit > nibh et massa. Proin lacus. Pellentesque tristique nulla. Sed > vestibulum lorem et sapien. Nullam suscipit ornare massa. Integer > blandit feugiat dui. Morbi ut est non mauris tempus congue. > Suspendisse tellus libero, pulvinar porta, consequat sed, sollicitudin > eu, purus. Mauris mi sapien, malesuada iaculis, aliquam eget, interdum > id, nisi. Pellentesque accumsan dapibus lorem. Nullam leo augue, > volutpat et, scelerisque nec, dapibus vitae, nibh. Cras quis magna. > Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada > fames ac turpis egestas. Maecenas consectetur, eros eget semper > placerat, orci arcu dignissim ligula, nec venenatis nulla metus nec > nibh. > > Nullam aliquet, risus at dictum accumsan, lorem massa pretium libero, > id ornare lorem dolor sed dolor. Praesent luctus, justo sed semper > venenatis, sem quam aliquet metus, non varius libero purus at neque. > Nullam eu metus ut massa interdum tincidunt. Cum sociis natoque > penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. > Nunc rhoncus nisl nec velit. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique > senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Aenean > faucibus tincidunt nulla. Nam dolor sapien, aliquet eget, pretium at, > lobortis et, orci. Cras viverra feugiat purus. Ut est nisi, molestie > sit amet, commodo in, dapibus quis, urna. Suspendisse odio nibh, > tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. > > barry threw > Media Art and Technology > > San Francisco, CA > Work: 857-544-3967 > Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com > Web: www.barrythrew.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic m@ _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From matt at sfsound.org Tue Mar 10 18:06:08 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:06:08 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] zorn In-Reply-To: <1079196635-1236733055-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872432613-@bxe1255.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com><14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com><39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> <1079196635-1236733055-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872432613-@bxe1255.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: i understand the reasons for charging that much, but that ticket price certainly made up my mind whether to go or not -- and i can't be alone... i would be really curious to see hear how the turnout is.. if they charged 1/2 as much would they get 2x the turnout? -m On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > I think there is a festival pass for 250. He has brought a lot of > musicians with him so the whole event must be costing Yoshi's a > fortune. It's hard to imagine them breaking even on this. > > > Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry > > -----Original Message----- > From: matt > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:37:05 > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST > > > thanks barry for getting this back up! i was going to post something > like this yeserday: > > so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too much given > current economy? > > On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw wrote: > >> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. >> In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. >> Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing >> vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum >> metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum >> mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. Fusce >> cursus, diam quis dapibus faucibus, purus augue varius orci, et >> sollicitudin sapien sapien sit amet massa. Morbi metus eros, >> dignissim >> sit amet, iaculis sed, volutpat quis, turpis. Lorem ipsum dolor sit >> amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Etiam nibh arcu, dignissim >> vulputate, feugiat ut, sodales ut, metus. Vestibulum leo. Nulla erat >> eros, aliquam ut, pulvinar congue, posuere sed, dolor. Aliquam nec >> dui. Nullam non diam ut ipsum posuere consectetur. >> >> Etiam venenatis. Aenean sollicitudin quam vel velit. Fusce leo lacus, >> euismod in, commodo eget, auctor ac, quam. Vivamus vel ligula eu elit >> condimentum fermentum. Sed tristique nunc et ligula. Aliquam erat >> volutpat. Integer posuere urna sed ante blandit rutrum. Etiam gravida >> dui in augue. Aenean justo mauris, gravida sed, pulvinar nec, feugiat >> nec, urna. Aliquam sit amet est euismod purus tempor porta. >> Vestibulum >> pulvinar. Fusce euismod lectus nec orci. Quisque non odio. Donec >> lorem. In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Mauris et lorem. >> >> Aenean posuere, nibh sed congue placerat, enim magna faucibus sem, a >> varius elit arcu at magna. Morbi sed ligula. Vestibulum quis diam in >> nibh elementum ornare. Sed laoreet elementum risus. Suspendisse dui. >> Ut lobortis. In nulla. Suspendisse ligula quam, ornare vel, vulputate >> eget, sodales quis, est. Nam et justo. Nulla luctus porta ante. >> Pellentesque feugiat, augue ut volutpat tempor, justo augue tincidunt >> nunc, id vehicula mi neque eget leo. Maecenas nec nunc vulputate quam >> tempus ullamcorper. Aliquam eu enim ac lorem consectetur egestas. >> Aenean mi. Etiam a nibh at ipsum eleifend imperdiet. Mauris quam >> nisl, >> tristique ut, ullamcorper sit amet, rutrum ac, mauris. Sed velit. >> Proin luctus ligula vel arcu porttitor malesuada. Nullam erat nisi, >> tincidunt eu, luctus vel, porta eget, ligula. >> >> Aliquam hendrerit condimentum nibh. Duis in erat vel est vulputate >> interdum. Nullam non felis in urna commodo condimentum. In hendrerit >> nibh et massa. Proin lacus. Pellentesque tristique nulla. Sed >> vestibulum lorem et sapien. Nullam suscipit ornare massa. Integer >> blandit feugiat dui. Morbi ut est non mauris tempus congue. >> Suspendisse tellus libero, pulvinar porta, consequat sed, >> sollicitudin >> eu, purus. Mauris mi sapien, malesuada iaculis, aliquam eget, >> interdum >> id, nisi. Pellentesque accumsan dapibus lorem. Nullam leo augue, >> volutpat et, scelerisque nec, dapibus vitae, nibh. Cras quis magna. >> Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique senectus et netus et malesuada >> fames ac turpis egestas. Maecenas consectetur, eros eget semper >> placerat, orci arcu dignissim ligula, nec venenatis nulla metus nec >> nibh. >> >> Nullam aliquet, risus at dictum accumsan, lorem massa pretium libero, >> id ornare lorem dolor sed dolor. Praesent luctus, justo sed semper >> venenatis, sem quam aliquet metus, non varius libero purus at neque. >> Nullam eu metus ut massa interdum tincidunt. Cum sociis natoque >> penatibus et magnis dis parturient montes, nascetur ridiculus mus. >> Nunc rhoncus nisl nec velit. Pellentesque habitant morbi tristique >> senectus et netus et malesuada fames ac turpis egestas. Aenean >> faucibus tincidunt nulla. Nam dolor sapien, aliquet eget, pretium at, >> lobortis et, orci. Cras viverra feugiat purus. Ut est nisi, molestie >> sit amet, commodo in, dapibus quis, urna. Suspendisse odio nibh, >> tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. >> >> barry threw >> Media Art and Technology >> >> San Francisco, CA >> Work: 857-544-3967 >> Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com >> Web: www.barrythrew.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > > > m@ > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic m@ From highhorse at mhorse.com Tue Mar 10 18:12:36 2009 From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:12:36 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] zorn In-Reply-To: References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com><14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com><39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> <1079196635-1236733055-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-872432613-@bxe1255.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Message-ID: <49B71004.7040200@mhorse.com> Funny, I'm on their mailing list and got a note today saying if you use the password "zorn" when buying tix, you get a certificate of EQUAL VALUE, good for tickets for other shows at either Yoshi's. They must really be hurting for crowd, and maybe willing to sacrifice door to get more bodies in there, buying drinks. Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > i understand the reasons for charging that much, > but that ticket price certainly made up my mind whether to go or not -- > and i can't be alone... > > i would be really curious to see hear how the turnout is.. > if they charged 1/2 as much would they get 2x the turnout? > > -m > > On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:58 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > > >> I think there is a festival pass for 250. He has brought a lot of >> musicians with him so the whole event must be costing Yoshi's a >> fortune. It's hard to imagine them breaking even on this. >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: matt >> >> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:37:05 >> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST >> >> >> thanks barry for getting this back up! i was going to post something >> like this yeserday: >> >> so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too much given >> current economy? From michaelz at zoka.com Tue Mar 10 18:13:26 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 18:13:26 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] ZornFEST (was Re: Fwd: TEST) In-Reply-To: <39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> <39C7E7D5-BAD6-4DC6-8F4E-7619EAB4DF0C@sfsound.org> Message-ID: On 3/10/09, matt wrote: >so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too much given >current economy? Why, yes -- yes it does. That's probably why Yoshi's started offering this deal yesterday: >JOHN ZORN'S YOSHI'S >SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENCY > >MARCH 10 - 15 > >BUY TICKETS FOR ANY JOHN ZORN SHOW >USING THE PASSWORD: zorn >AND RECEIVE A GIFT CERTIFICATEOF EQUAL VALUE >GOOD FOR TICKETS AT EITHER YOSHI'S! >PICK UP AT BOX OFFICE ON NIGHT OF SHOW. >VALID 3/16/09 - 9/16/09 >CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. >GOOD FOR ADVANCE PURCHASE ONLY - WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. . . . which of course means Yoshi's eats the value of the discount, and not Zorn. . . (I guess they are hoping to make up some of it in food and drink sales in the next six months.) MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Tue Mar 10 19:34:10 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 19:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] ZornFEST (was Re: Fwd: TEST) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <236464.78009.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> i was talking with david boyce on monday...he has a good friend that works at yoshi's. he said zorn refused to do the interview with the chronicle, and that ticket prices are not moving...yes, they're freaked out. there are so many ironies happening here, i can't quite duck fast enough to keep from being hit over the head by them. perhaps zorn will singlehandedly close the SF yoshi's for us. --- On Tue, 3/10/09, Michael Zelner wrote: > From: Michael Zelner > Subject: [NewMusic] ZornFEST (was Re: Fwd: TEST) > To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" > Date: Tuesday, March 10, 2009, 6:13 PM > On 3/10/09, matt wrote: > > >so is it just me, or does $50 to hear Zorn seem way too > much given > >current economy? > > Why, yes -- yes it does. > > That's probably why Yoshi's started offering this > deal yesterday: > > >JOHN ZORN'S YOSHI'S > >SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENCY > > > >MARCH 10 - 15 > > > >BUY TICKETS FOR ANY JOHN ZORN SHOW > >USING THE PASSWORD: zorn > >AND RECEIVE A GIFT CERTIFICATEOF EQUAL VALUE > >GOOD FOR TICKETS AT EITHER YOSHI'S! > >PICK UP AT BOX OFFICE ON NIGHT OF SHOW. > >VALID 3/16/09 - 9/16/09 > >CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. > >GOOD FOR ADVANCE PURCHASE ONLY - WHILE SUPPLIES LAST. > > . . . which of course means Yoshi's eats the value of > the discount, > and not Zorn. . . > (I guess they are hoping to make up some of it in food and > drink > sales in the next six months.) > > MZ > > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From letucepry at yahoo.com Tue Mar 10 20:04:49 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 20:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] Free Zorn Ticket...Quit Complainin' References: <1FD94909-11DB-41E3-B6B3-0F110E8F589F@gmail.com> <14E304AB-5D36-4E92-B60B-03230656C3E2@gmail.com> <7C8CA3B1-C2F3-461B-9EF9-55F5AB15C045@gmail.com> Message-ID: <884958.51173.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Last Minute Cancellation, I have 1 ticket for tonight at 10PM (and of course get over to Yoshi's by 9:45), If you can get back to me in the next 15 minutes...(Sorry for the late notice...) lettuce ________________________________ From: Barry Threw To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 5:45:33 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Fwd: TEST Yeah, I forgot to mention, don't read this email out loud while? holding your right foot on a Gutenberg. Bad Things Happen. bt On Mar 10, 2009, at 5:38 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > It's working on both counts - I'm receiving this email via the list,? > and > great Azathoth is arriving through the portal. > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 5:34 PM, Barry Threw ? > wrote: > >> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Ut bibendum. >> In hac habitasse platea dictumst. Nam risus. Quisque non lorem. >> Quisque commodo magna a enim. Quisque mi mi, vehicula in, adipiscing >> vitae, fringilla eu, diam. Etiam enim. Maecenas convallis vestibulum >> metus. Pellentesque eros enim, volutpat at, volutpat eu, elementum >> mattis, ante. Fusce fringilla egestas lacus. Nulla facilisi. Fusce >> cursus, diam quis dapibus faucibus, purus augue varius orci, et >> sollicitudin sapien sapien sit amet massa. Morbi metus eros,? >> dignissim >> sit amet, iaculis sed, volutpat quis, turpis. Lorem ipsum dolor sit >> amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. 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Suspendisse odio nibh, >> tincidunt at, fringilla nec, faucibus ut, velit. >> >> barry threw >> Media Art and Technology >> >> San Francisco, CA >> Work: 857-544-3967 >> Email: bthrew (at) gmail (dot) com >> Web: www.barrythrew.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 10:25:02 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:25:02 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] New funding opening up Message-ID: <2eb068d40903121025s4cb70907x1861d7bda6f91d66@mail.gmail.com> * * *See below. The New York City part doesn't apply to us, but the commissioning part does.* *P.* * * *MEET THE COMPOSER ANNOUNCES A NEW MUSIC ?STIMULUS PACKAGE?* * * *More Money Available in Two Areas* * * *$300K in Commissioning Support* *$150K in General Support for Small Ensembles and Presenters in New York City* * * *Commissioning Music/USA**:** * *Application Deadline Extended to April 6 to Accommodate More Proposals* Meet The Composer is getting more money out to the new music field to do our part to help in this moment of economic challenge. We anticipate making available $300,000 through the current round of our *Commissioning Music/USA* program. This is nearly double the amount we granted through the previous round. To provide more time for artists and organizations to make use of this opportunity, we have extended the application deadline to April 6. All other guidelines of the program remain in place. See the program description and guidelines here: http://www.meetthecomposer.org/commissioning-music-usa *Please spread the word and consider submitting a commissioning project proposal.* We anticipate making available $150,000 in general operating support for small ensembles and presenters in New York City. More details will be coming soon. Watch our homepage: http://www.meetthecomposer.org/ This ?Stimulus Package? effort is made possible in part by special support from the Mary Flagler Cary Charitable Trust. We?re likewise grateful to the ongoing committed support of our *Commissioning Music/USA* funders: The Ford Foundation, Francis Goelet Charitable Lead Trusts, New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, New York State Council on the Arts, The William & Flora Hewlett Foundation, Pennsylvania Council on the Arts, and with endowment funding from The Helen F. Whitaker Foundation, The Andrew W. 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All best wishes and encouragement from *Meet The Composer*. -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From pgsaxo at pacbell.net Thu Mar 12 10:35:16 2009 From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:35:16 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] FW: Attn: Sarah Lockheart; Teaching Artist Research Project In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <203633.88005.qm@web81405.mail.mud.yahoo.com> thanks sarah, i filled out the survey. pg --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > From: Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> > Some well-meaning researcher at the U of Chicago sent this > to me, and even > though they misspelled my last name, I am forwarding this > email. From michaelz at zoka.com Thu Mar 12 17:15:23 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:15:23 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Yet another YouTube timewaster Message-ID: But kind of fun: (#1 includes gratuitous theremins) From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 17:41:06 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 17:41:06 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] (sf)weekly woes, vol. 1127... Message-ID: At risk of presenting an ever-so-thinly disguised attempt at gig-spammery, take ye a look at this: http://www.sfweekly.com/events/pink-canoes-gerritt-wittmer-n-v-h-cenk-ergun-1371863/ Now, I only worked for a newspaper in college, as opposed to actually majoring in newspapery, but you'd think that while writing a preview for a concert, it might be best to use most of the sound-bite to talk about the musicians that are actually playing, rather than spending most of your 200 words gushing about the band that the one guy used to be in... But that's just this reporter's opinion - who knows, maybe if i'd'a studied newspapery back in seminary school, I'd know that this is a classic paradigm on how to best maximize turnout by creating the neat allure of mystique about the musicians actually playing by way of blindsiding the reader with mostly non-pertinent information about something only marginally related... but I didn't and perhaps my yeomanesque cultural palate is just not refined enough to know the wiser... but eh, at least it wasn't some horrid Lester Bangs impersonation - love the guy, but his imitators are something slightly short of flattering. But I digress. in short, does not compute - especially the "It?s not ?psych? in a way that might appeal to the lysergic scribble-art crowd" part... I mean, if not for the scribbleistas, then who else would the collective we appeal to??? ...and thus we have our question of the day - feel free to discuss amongst yourselves... or go all crazy accusatory like whoa, or start bitching about something completely unrelated, like how meat is murder or something. ...sausage timer goes "click." From bradysharp at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 20:53:38 2009 From: bradysharp at gmail.com (Brady Sharp) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:53:38 -0500 Subject: [NewMusic] Yet another YouTube timewaster In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We must read the same boards, as I just found this today as well. I think it's really cool. Of course, people have been doing this stuff for years, but actually SEEing where the actual samples really come from adds a whole new level of appreciation to it in my opinion. It's cool how you can click "credits" on any of the movies, and it does a credit roll of the instruments and their youtube ID numbers! Brady From michaelz at zoka.com Thu Mar 12 22:55:21 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 22:55:21 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] (sf)weekly woes, vol. 1127... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/12/09, Travis Johns wrote: >...and thus we have our question of the day - feel free to discuss >amongst yourselves... or go all crazy accusatory like whoa, or start >bitching about something completely unrelated, like how meat is murder >or something. If Bill Hsu was here, he could tell you about this T-shirt: Or we could discuss Matt D's fine debut presentation of the Pmocatat at the Luggage Store Gallery tonight. That's pretty unrelated to your question. MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Thu Mar 12 23:16:22 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:16:22 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] (sf)weekly woes, vol. 1127... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I actually quite liked it - great timbres, expressive "playing," a dynamic, well-mixed and attentive ensemble and a good idea executed quite eloquently - not to mention an all-time low ala the non-idiomatic wall of sonic muck that usually accompanies combinations of improvisation and large ensembles - if anything, I'd even venture to say that the pieces were downright composed, this being a good thing. not to mention that it's nice to hit up a show that has a format other than approximately 12 to 25 minutes of constant sound, bookended by awkward salutations... i've seen waaay too much of that recently, my own performances included. but in all seriousness, it was a pretty damn good show and i really look forward to hearing what else the ensemble cooks up in the future - props to all who were involved and apologies for splitting immediately afterwards - waking up at 5am done gone fries the synapses come oh, about now... On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Michael Zelner wrote: > On 3/12/09, Travis Johns wrote: > >>...and thus we have our question of the day - feel free to discuss >>amongst yourselves... or go all crazy accusatory like whoa, or start >>bitching about something completely unrelated, like how meat is murder >>or something. > > If Bill Hsu was here, he could tell you about this T-shirt: > > > > Or we could discuss Matt D's fine debut presentation of the Pmocatat > at the Luggage Store Gallery tonight. That's pretty unrelated to your > question. > > MZ > > > --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- > ? ? ? ? ? ? Michael Zelner > ---Oakland CA USA------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From Gino.Robair at penton.com Fri Mar 13 13:31:46 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 15:31:46 -0500 Subject: [NewMusic] Wes Dooley in SF next week Message-ID: For those of you who like ribbon mics and stories about recording, Wes Dooley will be in SF next week. The info is online here: http://www.aessf.org/meetings/2009_Meetings/March_09B.html From barry.threw at gmail.com Fri Mar 13 14:14:40 2009 From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:14:40 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Wes Dooley in SF next week In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <32612FDE-7385-497A-A86C-FBCF5596D8A3@gmail.com> Yeah, this is going to be sweet. bt On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 PM, Robair, Gino wrote: > For those of you who like ribbon mics and stories about recording, Wes > Dooley will be in SF next week. The info is online here: > http://www.aessf.org/meetings/2009_Meetings/March_09B.html > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Sun Mar 15 20:14:26 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:14:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] vinny golia Message-ID: <396290.69813.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> ??? Wednesday, March 19Vinny Golia : The Large-Ensemble Experience ? All Improv:21 informances start at 7:00 pm and take place at: Red Poppy Art House 2698 Folsom St. @ 23rd St. 415.826.2402 Tickets sold at door; general seating ? Vinny Golia comes up from Los Angeles with CDs, DVDs, and his ebullient self to talk about composing for improvisers in large ensemble, something he has been doing for over 20 years in the USA and internationally. Of course, he will bring some of his many reed instruments along in case the spirit moves him to get into his work for improvising soloist as well.Biography Vinny Golia is a composer who fuses the rich heritage of Jazz, contemporary classical and world music into his own unique compositions. As a bandleader, Golia has presented his music to concert audiences in Europe, Canada, Mexico, Japan and the United States in ensembles varying dramatically in size and instrumentation. Mr. Golia has won numerous awards as a composer, including grants from the National Endowment of the Arts, The Lila Wallace Commissioning Program, The California Arts Council, Meet the Composer, Clausen Foundation of the Arts, Funds for U.S. Artists and the American Composers Forum. In 1982 he created the on-going 37 piece Vinny Golia Large Ensemble to perform his compositions for chamber group and jazz orchestra. A multi-woodwind performer, Vinny's recordings have been consistently picked by critics and readers of music journals for their yearly "ten best" lists. In 1999 Vinny won the LA Weekly's Award for "Best Jazz Musician." Golia has also contributed original compositions and scores to Ballet and Modern Dance works, video, theatrical productions, and film. As an educator Vinny has lectured on music & painting composition, improvisation, Jazz History, The History of Music in Film, CD & record manufacturing and self-production throughout the United States, Europe and Canada. He currently teaches at California Institute of the Arts. Vinny has been a featured performer with Anthony Braxton, Henry Grimes, John Carter, Bobby Bradford, Joelle Leandre, Leo Smith, Horace Tapscott, John Zorn, Tim Berne, Bertram Turetzky, George Lewis, Barre Phillips, The Rova Saxophone Quartet, Patti Smith, Harry "the Hipster" Gibson, Eugene Chadburne, Kevin Ayers, Peter Kowald, John Bergamo, George Gruntz Concert Jazz Band, Misha Mengelberg, Han Bennick, Lydia Lunch, Harry Sparrney and the Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra amongst many others. Instruments Ab, Eb, Bb, C, A, Alto, Bass, Contra-Alto & Contra-Bass Clarinets, Piccolo, G, C, Alto, & Bass Flutes, Sopranino, Soprano, Tenor, Baritone, & Bass Saxophones, English Horn, Bassoon, Contra-Bassoon, Strich, Taragoto, & various ethnic aerophones ?Jon Raskin From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Sun Mar 15 20:15:54 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] sausage Message-ID: <958698.60368.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Sorry for the Vinny?Golia sausage,?It has been sent to?the proper casing. ?Jon Raskin From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 20:47:40 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 20:47:40 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] sausage In-Reply-To: <958698.60368.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <958698.60368.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Sausage forgiven at least from this list lurker - being one who seldom checks the events list - or cares about the neurotic separation of gigs and discussion - seriously, if something looks cool, PLEASE share it! And not just the random splatterings about the famous non-idiomatics from the other coast - imo, that would be Yoshi's job to publicize... it's one thing to publicize an event that you truly believe is something that everyone should head out to... its another thing to constantly publicize the same thirty upcoming gigs, disguised as a less than par recipe for meat products - that's annoying, and as far as I can tell, perpetrated by only one person - years ago. Lets present a nice comparative metaphor here for a second, shall we? Y'know how you have to take your shoes off every time you fly because one asshole tried to blow up a plane with his shoes - even if you're wearing flipflops and your dirty hippyfeet are clearly visible and the notion of walking barefoot through a narrow corridor where about 10,000 disgusting feet pass through daily... razzumfrazzum tsa... - yeah, like that. I'd like to think we're mature enough to not punish the many on account of the few, but hey, that's captain idealist speaking here, but eh, just saying. and now, the lasagna recipe from last night' Golden Trapperkeeper show, which was AWESOME, by the way... Improv Lasagna, Vol. 1. 2 carrots, shredded. 1/2 large Spaghetti Squash, cooked. 1/2 Bag mung mean sprouts 1 Quart, Ricotta. Various jars of nigh-empty pasta sauce lurking in the back of the fridge. 1/2 Jar Trader Joe's Korma Simmer Sauce (leftover) 1/2 white onion, diced. 1 Red Onion, diced. 1/2 Lb. Spinach, chopped. I Large Zucchini, diced. 1.5 packages dry lasagna. 1 Lb. Queso Fresco 1 Package Shredded Sharp Cheddar Cheese Parmesan to taste. Assemble in the traditional lasagna fashion, cover tightly with aluminum foil and bake at 350 for one hour. Makes 2 large trays. When ready, serve to 20-30 close friends and well wishers, ideally in the presence of improvised music. if any specific questions arise ala preparation or portions, please contact off list. (t) On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > Sorry for the Vinny?Golia sausage,?It has been sent to?the proper casing. > ?Jon Raskin > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From 21grand at 21grand.org Sun Mar 15 21:16:15 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:16:15 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] sausage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Main reason I didn't go to this is because ricotta cheese makes me physically ill. sl on 3/15/09 8:47 PM, Travis Johns at electric.tokyo at gmail.com wrote: > > and now, the lasagna recipe from last night' Golden Trapperkeeper > show, which was AWESOME, by the way... > > Improv Lasagna, Vol. 1. > > 2 carrots, shredded. > 1/2 large Spaghetti Squash, cooked. > 1/2 Bag mung mean sprouts > 1 Quart, Ricotta. > Various jars of nigh-empty pasta sauce lurking in the back of the fridge. > 1/2 Jar Trader Joe's Korma Simmer Sauce (leftover) > 1/2 white onion, diced. > 1 Red Onion, diced. > 1/2 Lb. Spinach, chopped. > I Large Zucchini, diced. > 1.5 packages dry lasagna. > 1 Lb. Queso Fresco > 1 Package Shredded Sharp Cheddar Cheese > Parmesan to taste. From suki at zoka.com Sun Mar 15 21:52:22 2009 From: suki at zoka.com (Suki O'Kane) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:52:22 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Alvin Curran / William Winant at Yud Gallery In-Reply-To: <958698.60368.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <958698.60368.qm@web55602.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: interesting show, My first experience of a live performance in the Yud gallery at the Contemporary Jewish Museum - a very angular space that either invites or discourages complex sonic information, I can't tell. About 50 folks, a surprise for a $25 matinee. Curran performed on shofar, which activated many other samples and the live performance of Winant, who turned in a diverse and dynamic performance on a classic rig of gong, cymbal, mallets, roto-tom and tympani. The addition for me was a transverse mounted concert bass drum, more than one or two nods to Le Quan Ninh as he explored that surface. Curran's samples / patches seemed to represent years of accumulation, putting me in some mind of Carl Stone, who can shock with his atavistic use of text. In Curran's case the text never surfaced as meaning, thankfully, and the first set (50 minutes) did artfully push into a couple arcs of deep, dense sound mirrored by the live percussion. His alternating use of breath and tone with the horn was evocative. Despite a 10-minute intermission that might have discouraged leave-taking, many did just that. The remainder of audience were promised a 20 minute piece that turned into 30 minutes, perhaps a mistake. The opening was strong, environmental, spatial work with musicians exploring the reflective surfaces of the gallery with shofar and bull roar and the ending was pretty spectacular: Winant drawing a mallet across the surface of the gallery wall in a delicate groan. In betweeny: dunno. Color me kurzweiled. overheard: the woman in front of me felt it was simply meant to provoke, compared it to animal collective. don't know who benefits / compromises most in that comparison, -s -- suki o'kane mailto:suki at zoka.com http://www.myspace.com/sukiokane From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Sun Mar 15 22:08:09 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:08:09 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] sausage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: as a fellow lactard (i'm assuming this is some lactose intolerance here...), I can commiserate. However, there's just something about notta-ricotta and all the other soy based cheese substitutes that just don't sit well - the texture is just off for my tastes. call it strange, but i'd rather take a few moments of gi discomfort for the sake of good food than have to sacrifice quality for substitutes, but that's just my opinion. I'll still never go back to Beard Papa, though. hell hath no fury like a three flavor creampuff sampler when you're super lactose like whoa... On Sun, Mar 15, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Sarah - 21 Grand <21grand at 21grand.org> wrote: > Main reason I didn't go to this is because ricotta cheese makes me > physically ill. > > sl > > on 3/15/09 8:47 PM, Travis Johns at electric.tokyo at gmail.com wrote: > > >> >> and now, the lasagna recipe from last night' Golden Trapperkeeper >> show, which was AWESOME, by the way... >> >> Improv Lasagna, Vol. 1. >> >> 2 carrots, shredded. >> 1/2 large Spaghetti Squash, cooked. >> 1/2 Bag mung mean sprouts >> 1 Quart, Ricotta. >> Various jars of nigh-empty pasta sauce lurking in the back of the fridge. >> 1/2 Jar Trader Joe's Korma Simmer Sauce (leftover) >> 1/2 white onion, diced. >> 1 Red Onion, diced. >> 1/2 Lb. Spinach, chopped. >> I Large Zucchini, diced. >> 1.5 packages dry lasagna. >> 1 Lb. Queso Fresco >> 1 Package Shredded Sharp Cheddar Cheese >> Parmesan to taste. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From ava.mendoza at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 00:24:31 2009 From: ava.mendoza at gmail.com (Ava Mendoza) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 00:24:31 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] karen stackpole's email? Message-ID: <317505170903160024s6e906cbl59857c6b4459434f@mail.gmail.com> helloooo, anyone out there gots it? thanks, ava From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 08:36:13 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 08:36:13 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art Message-ID: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> (09-07) 16:36 PDT Fresno, Calif. (AP) -- Authorities say they've arrested a man who broke into the home of two California farmworkers, stole money, rubbed one with spices and whacked the other with a sausage before fleeing. Fresno County sheriff's Lt. Ian Burrimond says 22-year-old Antonio Vasquez was found hiding in a field wearing only a T-shirt, boxers and socks after the Saturday morning attack. He says deputies arrested Vasquez after finding a wallet containing his ID in the ransacked house. The farmworkers told deputies the suspect woke them Saturday morning by rubbing spices on one of them and smacking the other with an 8-inch sausage. Burrimond says money allegedly stolen was recovered. -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From matt at sfsound.org Mon Mar 16 10:27:01 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:27:01 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] InC Remix Ad References: <3FDBB35E-4231-4ECF-91FA-BD2CE76F783C@charter.net> Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Bill Ryan > Date: March 16, 2009 9:13:13 AM PDT > To: Matt Ingalls > Subject: project announcement > > Hi Matt, > > This just launched today: > http://newmusicensemble.org/media/files/inc-remixtrailer.mov > > Turn it UP. > > And here's the YouTube link (lower quality though): > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RSxGdLssI > > Share as you wish. > > Thanks for your support, > Bill > m@ From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:33:58 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:33:58 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: How is this performance art? If anything it sounds like a misdirected, drug-addled and above all psychotic plea for help... or maybe just a really stupid, overly complicated robbery attempt - having never been to Fresno, I don't know how they roll out there. Though on a side note, if you add two other guys and a sub plot involving moving a piano to this newsreel, you'll most likely end up with an episode of the Three Stooges, or at east a sterling imitation. Though back to the combinations of meat and performance art: Anyone remember that one Life in Hell chart about how to recognize different members of the arts community? If my memory serves me right, the debilitating question that supposedly plagues all performance artists is "given all the possibilities and opportunities you've had in your life, how the hell did you end up on that stage slapping yourself with a piece of meat?" roughly paraphrased, of course. I'll spare everyone the existential crisis of adding a snarky quip involving the substitution of meat references for that of "wackily played instrument" mwah ha ha. In this case, at leas the Groening seems pertinent. Now about that Outsound hoodoo: we know the date. we know that it is somehow linked to a story about a n'eer do well in Fresno. We know the location... but what does it all mean? who be playing? why should we go? what's the big idea? why!?!? anything we can do to help? &c. &c. &c. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Polly Moller wrote: > (09-07) 16:36 PDT Fresno, Calif. (AP) -- > > Authorities say they've arrested a man who broke into the home of two > California farmworkers, stole money, rubbed one with spices and whacked the > other with a sausage before fleeing. > > Fresno County sheriff's Lt. Ian Burrimond says 22-year-old Antonio Vasquez > was found hiding in a field wearing only a T-shirt, boxers and socks after > the Saturday morning attack. > > He says deputies arrested Vasquez after finding a wallet containing his ID > in the ransacked house. > > The farmworkers told deputies the suspect woke them Saturday morning by > rubbing spices on one of them and smacking the other with an 8-inch sausage. > > Burrimond says money allegedly stolen was recovered. > > -- > ******************************************************************************* > OUTSOUND PRESENTS > THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT > http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html > JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 > The Community Music Center > 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA > $12 General / $6 Student, > Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) > ******************************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:46:58 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:46:58 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> Are you saying that it's only performance art if you whack *yourself* with a sausage? I don't have contact info for Antonio Vasquez, so I don't know if he was performing or not. In any case I was bummed that somebody had gotten to the microphone first. And in Fresno, no less. I have a problem with actual meat, so I would have to whack somebody with a Tofurkey sausage, and those might break more easily? Rubbing somebody with spices I could definitely do. I would have to figure out if the whacking and rubbing would happen to co-performers or audience members; which would be more performative? And I wouldn't be surprised if somebody regarded my performance art as a misdirected, drug-addled (although it's not) and above all psychotic plea for help. But I'm not on the Outsound Summit performance roster this year, since I was on there last year, so the post and the signature line are unconnected. With many winks...;) ;) ;) P. -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 10:58:50 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:58:50 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: heynow heynow, don't shoot the messenger! I'm just adding fuel to the fire for supportive evidence in favor of a dissertation-level exploration of the relationships inherent between meat products and the arts. for instance: if the meat product is soy-based, is it still art? What were the spices used and how, if at all, did they effect the overall performance during this piece's Fresno premier? If a tree falls on a pig in the middle of the forest and no one is around to eat it, is it still sausage? And so on. Ok class, pencils out and eyes on your own paper. Remember to show your work and use proper formats for in text citation. Please leave your completed paper on my desk at the end of the period and talk to one of the TA's if you need more time for the assignment. Best of luck and if any questions arise, I'll be in my office during my regularly scheduled office hours this afternoon. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Polly Moller wrote: > Are you saying that it's only performance art if you whack *yourself* with a > sausage? > > I don't have contact info for Antonio Vasquez, so I don't know if he was > performing or not. > In any case I was bummed that somebody had gotten to the microphone first. > And in Fresno, no less. > I have a problem with actual meat, so I would have to whack somebody with a > Tofurkey > sausage, and those might break more easily? ?Rubbing somebody with spices I > could definitely > do. ?I would have to figure out if the whacking and rubbing would happen to > co-performers or audience > members; which would be more performative? > > And I wouldn't be surprised if somebody regarded my performance art as a > misdirected, > drug-addled (although it's not) and above all psychotic plea for help. ?But > I'm not on the Outsound > Summit performance roster this year, since I was on there last year, so the > post and the signature line > are unconnected. > > With many winks...;) ;) ;) > P. > > > > -- > ******************************************************************************* > OUTSOUND PRESENTS > THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT > http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html > JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 > The Community Music Center > 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA > $12 General / $6 Student, > Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) > ******************************************************************************* > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From Gino.Robair at penton.com Mon Mar 16 11:02:01 2009 From: Gino.Robair at penton.com (Robair, Gino) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:02:01 -0500 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art Message-ID: I think you'd have to get Damon involved in any performance that required sausages. Or Sting, now that he sells salami (and "f-ing MERLOT!")* http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7941575.stm *sorry for the gratuitous ref to "Sideways." From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 11:02:52 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:02:52 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40903161102y12762f4p1707e46371c1d1ee@mail.gmail.com> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:58 AM, Travis Johns wrote: > > for instance: if the meat product is soy-based, is it still art? What > were the spices used and how, if at all, did they effect the overall > performance during this piece's Fresno premier? If a tree falls on a > pig in the middle of the forest and no one is around to eat it, is it > still sausage? > > And so on. Well I very much approve of Antonio Vasquez taking the meat-based performance art genre away from the political slant it's taken on in past decades -- the "body of (insert marginalized population here) as meat/commodity" theme. This new direction he's taking it in -- towards criminal activity -- is refreshing. I agree that the spice combination is especially relevant, and should be covered in its own lecture. P. -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Mar 16 11:02:57 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:02:57 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3DFA8FC9-1F25-4BF9-A885-E3ACBE799619@balancepointacoustics.com> I just saw one of these in LA at the LACMA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literaturwurst Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Mar 16 11:05:04 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:05:04 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] InC Remix Ad In-Reply-To: References: <3FDBB35E-4231-4ECF-91FA-BD2CE76F783C@charter.net> Message-ID: <626F8A77-B125-4610-98C0-90BABCD86B87@balancepointacoustics.com> That is some dark Yerba Buena Center for the Arts style bullshit! It is nearly as bad calling some shitty exhibition a "mixtape". Things like this never work and they are always a bad idea. Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From slusser at pixar.com Mon Mar 16 11:09:39 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:09:39 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> Anyone remember "Tragic Mulatto"? They performed with real, severed, pig snouts and ears (and other stuff) affixed to their heads and bodies. My friend Darrell Utters (how appropriate) played trombone with them. On Mar 16, 2009, at 10:46 AM, Polly Moller wrote: > Are you saying that it's only performance art if you whack > *yourself* with a > sausage? > > I don't have contact info for Antonio Vasquez, so I don't know if > he was > performing or not. > In any case I was bummed that somebody had gotten to the microphone > first. > And in Fresno, no less. > I have a problem with actual meat, so I would have to whack > somebody with a > Tofurkey > sausage, and those might break more easily? Rubbing somebody with > spices I > could definitely > do. I would have to figure out if the whacking and rubbing would > happen to > co-performers or audience > members; which would be more performative? > > And I wouldn't be surprised if somebody regarded my performance art > as a > misdirected, > drug-addled (although it's not) and above all psychotic plea for help. From weaselw at juno.com Mon Mar 16 11:18:32 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:18:32 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art Message-ID: <20090316.111835.3756.62.weaselw@juno.com> i remember them, but do you remember Piglatin? ww On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:09:39 -0700 David Slusser writes: > Anyone remember "Tragic Mulatto"? ____________________________________________________________ Meet active single parents in your area. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTRHu3dppriuJUiMjFgBXNfL799RTIetqhwkZrFnyIllP0YU957Za4/ From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Mar 16 11:18:18 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 11:18:18 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> Message-ID: <65079355-DE20-4F28-B420-FD305FB5C00D@balancepointacoustics.com> Beuys uses Sausage in this one: http://www.ubu.com/film/beuys_filz.html They shoot a pig in one of these, I forget which one: http://www.ubu.com/film/vienna_actionists.html Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From liberatednsf at yahoo.com Mon Mar 16 13:07:36 2009 From: liberatednsf at yahoo.com (andrew wilshusen) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:07:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] Fresno, segue from The use of sausage in performance art References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <614687.12999.qm@web30603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> My family lives in Fresno, and?for a glimpse of "how they roll" there,?I?recommend the?photography book Frezno, by Tony Stamolis.? Frankly, there is?little to?do there besides drugs. Andrew ? http://oudevoida.blogspot.com From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 13:10:54 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:10:54 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fresno, segue from The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <614687.12999.qm@web30603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <614687.12999.qm@web30603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40903161310y30c2ff55x25e1a6b95ed7a803@mail.gmail.com> I think Brian Kenney Fresno should write a song about the sausage and spice rub incident. :) P. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM, andrew wilshusen wrote: > > My family lives in Fresno, and for a glimpse of "how they roll" > there, I recommend the photography book Frezno, by Tony Stamolis. Frankly, > there is little to do there besides drugs. > > Andrew > > > > http://oudevoida.blogspot.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 13:34:38 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:34:38 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] ::Songs of the Canyons and the Highways:: Message-ID: 'lo, some sounds from the canoes circa our most recent excursions outside of the bay, presented in archived format for anyone into listening to this pedigree of soundstuffs, whilst commuting or otherwise. Presented in high fidelity stereophonic sound and in chronological order for those interested in dissertation-level inquiries on the psychological degradation of improvisors during 4 day burns to southern California - Enjoy! 02.28.09: http://www.archive.org/details/PinkCanoes02.28.09SeaAndSpaceExplorationsLosAngelesCa 03.06.09: http://www.archive.org/details/PinkCanoes03.06.09ThePharaohsDenRiversideCa 03.08.09: http://www.archive.org/details/PinkCanoes03.08.09EchoCurioLosAngelesCa From polly.moller at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 13:56:08 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:56:08 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] In case anybody's an aspiring boss Message-ID: <2eb068d40903161356u75149ado95a8575b413d544f@mail.gmail.com> Reply to: job-z72fc-1072015391 at craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads? ] Date: 2009-03-12, 12:22PM PDT SUMMARY: Director of Crowden Center for Music in the Community (CCMC) reports directly to the Executive Director of the Crowden Music Center. With ED, develops and oversees CCMC programs consistent with CMC mission to combine music and education to nurture, develop, and inspire students of all ages, and provide essential support for the musical life of the community. This position supervises CCMC faculty, CCMC Program Associate/Facilities and Instrument Manager. PRIMARY DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES: _Program Management_ ? In consultation with the Executive Director, plan, develop and oversee CCMC programs including but not limited to afterschool, summer & weekend classes; outreach & satellite programs; public concerts & events. ? Set and enforce program quality standard and evaluations. ? Hire and supervise CCMC faculty. ? Recruit and advise prospective students and parents. _Development & Marketing_ ? Work with CMC development staff as needed to facilitate CCMC fundraising. ? Represent Crowden and foster relationships with the local arts, cultural, and educational communities. ? Assist in planning and hosting community-building events for CCMC staff and faculty. _Administration_ ? Establish and oversee CCMC budget (approx $450K); set tuition rates and negotiate faculty compensation as directed by ED. ? Create and oversee CCMC student registration systems. ? Administer all aspects of financial aid process for CCMC students. ? Hire and supervise CCMC staff. ? Serve on Crowden Finance Committee. ? Ensure that CCMC emergency plan coordinates with CMC plan and meets required regulations. _Marketing & PR_ ? Work with Publications and Public Relations Director on design, layout and distribution strategy for CCMC promotional materials. ? Coordinate with Publications and Public Relations Director to strategize about CCMC advertising in local publications and online. ? Produce and send monthly CCMC e-newsletter. _Executive/Board Support_ ? Prepare monthly reports for the Executive Director to present at board meetings. ? Attend board meetings and serve on board committees as requested. QUALIFICATIONS: ? 5+ years progressively responsible administrative and management experience, preferably in a non-profit artistic environment. ? Secondary degree or significant knowledge and experience in the study of Western classical music, orchestral instruments and general music education. ? Fluency with computer software applications in a PC environment, including Microsoft Word and Excel, Access or similar relational database program. ? Excellent verbal and written communications skills. PERSONAL QUALITIES AND WORK STYLE: ? High level of organization and attention to detail. ? Ability to take initiative and work independently, as well as respond positively to outside requests and direction. ? Ability to prioritize and maintain focus in a busy environment. ? Customer service orientation, enjoyment of serving the public. ? Cheerfulness, flexibility and a sense of humor. ? Dependable and punctual. ? Love of children and music. Compensation: 30 hour/week. $37 ? 40KDOE + Benefits Benefits: Prorated health insurance, prorated annual and sick leave. To apply, mail, e-mail or fax resume and cover letter to: Elizabeth Alonso-Halifax Interim CCMC Coordinator Crowden Music Center 1475 Rose St. Berkeley, Ca. 94702 Fax: 510-559-6910 Email: eahalifax at crowden.org Position is open until filled. Crowden is an equal opportunity employer and does not discriminate on the basis of race, religion, ethnic background, sex, disability or sexual orientation. Applicants from diverse backgrounds are strongly encouraged to apply. - This is at a non-profit organization. - Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. - Please, no phone calls about this job! - Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests. PostingID: 1072015391 -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Mar 16 13:57:04 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:57:04 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> Message-ID: I remember reading about them, in Spin magazine I think, when I was a sophomore in high school ... Never could find an album in the chain record store. sl on 3/16/09 11:09 AM, David Slusser at slusser at pixar.com wrote: > Anyone remember "Tragic Mulatto"? They performed with real, severed, > pig > snouts and ears (and other stuff) affixed to their heads and bodies. My > friend Darrell Utters (how appropriate) played trombone with them. > From 21grand at 21grand.org Mon Mar 16 14:09:38 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:09:38 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <3DFA8FC9-1F25-4BF9-A885-E3ACBE799619@balancepointacoustics.com> Message-ID: If we're posting non-music related news items ... Austrian guy who kept daughter in the basement on trial " Fritzl's lawyer, Rudolf Mayer, said his client regretted his actions and insisted he was "not a monster," even bringing his captives a Christmas tree." http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/03/14/international/i0 91051D08.DTL&tsp=1 sl on 3/16/09 11:02 AM, Damon Smith at damon at balancepointacoustics.com wrote: > I just saw one of these in LA at the LACMA: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literaturwurst > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 14:55:01 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:55:01 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Well, there's a well-known performance art piece called "the aristocrats" that includes certain amounts of spice-rubbing, sausage-beating, and a few other activities. I'm sure it's documented in some John Waters film or other. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johns wrote: > How is this performance art? If anything it sounds like a misdirected, > drug-addled and above all psychotic plea for help... or maybe just a > really stupid, overly complicated robbery attempt - having never been > to Fresno, I don't know how they roll out there. Though on a side > note, if you add two other guys and a sub plot involving moving a > piano to this newsreel, you'll most likely end up with an episode of > the Three Stooges, or at east a sterling imitation. > > Though back to the combinations of meat and performance art: Anyone > remember that one Life in Hell chart about how to recognize different > members of the arts community? If my memory serves me right, the > debilitating question that supposedly plagues all performance artists > is "given all the possibilities and opportunities you've had in your > life, how the hell did you end up on that stage slapping yourself with > a piece of meat?" roughly paraphrased, of course. I'll spare everyone > the existential crisis of adding a snarky quip involving the > substitution of meat references for that of "wackily played > instrument" mwah ha ha. In this case, at leas the Groening seems > pertinent. > > Now about that Outsound hoodoo: we know the date. we know that it is > somehow linked to a story about a n'eer do well in Fresno. We know the > location... but what does it all mean? who be playing? why should we > go? what's the big idea? why!?!? anything we can do to help? &c. &c. > &c. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Polly Moller > wrote: > > (09-07) 16:36 PDT Fresno, Calif. (AP) -- > > > > Authorities say they've arrested a man who broke into the home of two > > California farmworkers, stole money, rubbed one with spices and whacked > the > > other with a sausage before fleeing. > > > > Fresno County sheriff's Lt. Ian Burrimond says 22-year-old Antonio > Vasquez > > was found hiding in a field wearing only a T-shirt, boxers and socks > after > > the Saturday morning attack. > > > > He says deputies arrested Vasquez after finding a wallet containing his > ID > > in the ransacked house. > > > > The farmworkers told deputies the suspect woke them Saturday morning by > > rubbing spices on one of them and smacking the other with an 8-inch > sausage. > > > > Burrimond says money allegedly stolen was recovered. From mattdavignon at gmail.com Mon Mar 16 14:56:39 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 14:56:39 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: My mistake, the film had a slightly different title, and wasn't by John Waters after all... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aristocats On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 2:55 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > Well, there's a well-known performance art piece called "the aristocrats" > that includes certain amounts of spice-rubbing, sausage-beating, and a few > other activities. I'm sure it's documented in some John Waters film or > other. > > On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Travis Johns wrote: > >> How is this performance art? If anything it sounds like a misdirected, >> drug-addled and above all psychotic plea for help... or maybe just a >> really stupid, overly complicated robbery attempt - having never been >> to Fresno, I don't know how they roll out there. Though on a side >> note, if you add two other guys and a sub plot involving moving a >> piano to this newsreel, you'll most likely end up with an episode of >> the Three Stooges, or at east a sterling imitation. >> >> Though back to the combinations of meat and performance art: Anyone >> remember that one Life in Hell chart about how to recognize different >> members of the arts community? If my memory serves me right, the >> debilitating question that supposedly plagues all performance artists >> is "given all the possibilities and opportunities you've had in your >> life, how the hell did you end up on that stage slapping yourself with >> a piece of meat?" roughly paraphrased, of course. I'll spare everyone >> the existential crisis of adding a snarky quip involving the >> substitution of meat references for that of "wackily played >> instrument" mwah ha ha. In this case, at leas the Groening seems >> pertinent. >> >> Now about that Outsound hoodoo: we know the date. we know that it is >> somehow linked to a story about a n'eer do well in Fresno. We know the >> location... but what does it all mean? who be playing? why should we >> go? what's the big idea? why!?!? anything we can do to help? &c. &c. >> &c. >> >> On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 8:36 AM, Polly Moller >> wrote: >> > (09-07) 16:36 PDT Fresno, Calif. (AP) -- >> > >> > Authorities say they've arrested a man who broke into the home of two >> > California farmworkers, stole money, rubbed one with spices and whacked >> the >> > other with a sausage before fleeing. >> > >> > Fresno County sheriff's Lt. Ian Burrimond says 22-year-old Antonio >> Vasquez >> > was found hiding in a field wearing only a T-shirt, boxers and socks >> after >> > the Saturday morning attack. >> > >> > He says deputies arrested Vasquez after finding a wallet containing his >> ID >> > in the ransacked house. >> > >> > The farmworkers told deputies the suspect woke them Saturday morning by >> > rubbing spices on one of them and smacking the other with an 8-inch >> sausage. >> > >> > Burrimond says money allegedly stolen was recovered. > > > From gcremaschi at hotmail.com Mon Mar 16 15:50:11 2009 From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:50:11 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] The use of sausage in performance art In-Reply-To: <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> References: <2eb068d40903160836l758033b7we73cad73d99d0975@mail.gmail.com> <2eb068d40903161046u711c6af4x17d52350efcb23a4@mail.gmail.com> <86BBF4F2-6E06-4AE7-B91D-7231B378CF29@pixar.com> Message-ID: Slusser wrote: > Anyone remember "Tragic Mulatto"? Yeah, of course. I looked them up immediately after moving to Californiain the late 80's - their live shows were a mess, literally, but they were one of the last links back to the glory days when the Bay Area punk scene had a prettysubstantial, and influential, 'art' wing. -George _________________________________________________________________ Express your personality in color! Preview and select themes for Hotmail?. http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/LearnMore/personalize.aspx?ocid=TXT_MSGTX_WL_HM_express_032009#colortheme From jzitt at metatronpress.com Mon Mar 16 16:30:18 2009 From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:30:18 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] InC Remix Ad In-Reply-To: References: <3FDBB35E-4231-4ECF-91FA-BD2CE76F783C@charter.net> Message-ID: I'm eager to hear what some of the remixers will do. But the example used for the trailer, putting a thudding 4/4 beat behind it, is certainly a worst-case scenario. On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 1:27 PM, matt wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Bill Ryan >> Date: March 16, 2009 9:13:13 AM PDT >> To: Matt Ingalls >> Subject: project announcement >> >> Hi Matt, >> >> This just launched today: >> http://newmusicensemble.org/media/files/inc-remixtrailer.mov >> >> Turn it UP. >> >> And here's the YouTube link (lower quality though): >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RSxGdLssI >> >> Share as you wish. >> >> Thanks for your support, >> Bill >> > > m@ > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com From michaelz at zoka.com Mon Mar 16 17:09:13 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 17:09:13 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] InC Remix Ad In-Reply-To: References: <3FDBB35E-4231-4ECF-91FA-BD2CE76F783C@charter.net> Message-ID: On 3/16/09, Joseph Zitt wrote: >I'm eager to hear what some of the remixers will do. But the example >used for the trailer, putting a thudding 4/4 beat behind it, is >certainly a worst-case scenario. It's hard to top Walter Boudreau's trippy 1970 arrangement: MZ --------------michaelz at zoka.com--- Michael Zelner ---Oakland CA USA------------------ From mattdavignon at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 01:07:15 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:07:15 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] InC Remix Ad In-Reply-To: References: <3FDBB35E-4231-4ECF-91FA-BD2CE76F783C@charter.net> Message-ID: Shouldn't people have learned this lesson after the World Beat movement happened? Drum machine programming and electronic sounds do not make everything better! It was entertaining to listen to each "new, modern" element, and figure out how passe it is. For example, that particular kind of drum programming was hip about 14 years ago. The word "remixed!" as a tag line - also around 1999, right? At least they didn't call it a mashup! Matt On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:27 AM, matt wrote: > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > From: Bill Ryan > > Date: March 16, 2009 9:13:13 AM PDT > > To: Matt Ingalls > > Subject: project announcement > > > > Hi Matt, > > > > This just launched today: > > http://newmusicensemble.org/media/files/inc-remixtrailer.mov > > > > Turn it UP. > > > > And here's the YouTube link (lower quality though): > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_RSxGdLssI > > > > Share as you wish. > > > > Thanks for your support, > > Bill > > > > m@ From matt at sfsound.org Tue Mar 17 01:50:00 2009 From: matt at sfsound.org (matt) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 01:50:00 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] that cock is back Message-ID: <9593A438-E129-4417-BFC2-3CCEA83E2503@sfsound.org> friends of this list are back in town: http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/event/2009/04/18/abbie_conant_and_william_osborne ah it's been too long... to refresh your memory: http://www.osborne-conant.org/speech.htm http://www.osborne-conant.org/stalwarts.htm m@ From gcremaschi at hotmail.com Tue Mar 17 04:09:12 2009 From: gcremaschi at hotmail.com (George Cremaschi) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:09:12 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] that cock is back In-Reply-To: <9593A438-E129-4417-BFC2-3CCEA83E2503@sfsound.org> References: <9593A438-E129-4417-BFC2-3CCEA83E2503@sfsound.org> Message-ID: YES! William Osborne!!!Those were the days on this list! Sadly, it hasn't come close to being that exciting since... I notice in his essay that he strikes a much more fair-minded and magnanimous tone than he did directly to the list. Let's hold hands for this quote: "through the special human magic of men and women coming together, digital music may reinvent the body-electric." To quote George Clooney, from 'Burn After Reading': "what a horse's ass". Oops, is that "crudely macho and sexist"? -George > > friends of this list are back in town: > http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/event/2009/04/18/abbie_conant_and_william_osborne > > ah it's been too long... > to refresh your memory: > http://www.osborne-conant.org/speech.htm > http://www.osborne-conant.org/stalwarts.htm > > > m@ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 From miltnerunit at gmail.com Tue Mar 17 12:29:44 2009 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 12:29:44 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] that cock is back In-Reply-To: References: <9593A438-E129-4417-BFC2-3CCEA83E2503@sfsound.org> Message-ID: HAHA the _special_ human magic of men and women _coming_ together. k On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 4:09 AM, George Cremaschi wrote: > > YES! William Osborne!!!Those were the days on this list! Sadly, it hasn't > come close to being that exciting since... > I notice in his essay that he strikes a much more fair-minded and > magnanimous tone than he did directly to the list. > Let's hold hands for this quote: "through the special human magic of men > and women coming together, digital music may reinvent the body-electric." > To quote George Clooney, from 'Burn After Reading': "what a horse's ass". > Oops, is that "crudely macho and sexist"? > > > -George > > > > > > friends of this list are back in town: > > > http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/event/2009/04/18/abbie_conant_and_william_osborne > > > > ah it's been too long... > > to refresh your memory: > > http://www.osborne-conant.org/speech.htm > > http://www.osborne-conant.org/stalwarts.htm > > > > > > m@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail? is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast. > http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocidTXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_70faster_032009 > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.kristinmiltner.net www.myspace.com/miltnerunit http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html From suki at zoka.com Tue Mar 17 20:40:56 2009 From: suki at zoka.com (suki at zoka.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 23:40:56 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny Message-ID: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 reflect about the ivy: Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up now, metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners talking over the hoot. What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, perceptible high and low points, bartenders reluctant to comp tens of musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've come to know, a plus on the social club side. In order: John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen shelving. It oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o-matic and that was totally activating. Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar string hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a way too quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried 2 see this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life thing that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither performance was served by this. Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with Shiurban, like an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using a small digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that totally appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer space ren. The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then artful some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which had a brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. School night, broke, had to pack up, go. -s -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From djll at sonic.net Tue Mar 17 21:26:04 2009 From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:26:04 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] that cock is back In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Oh joy sublime! It's not often such a corpulent pigeon of pomposity is offered up to one's sacrificial altar of cleverness. Those were fun days. Sadly, I think I've grown too fat and pompous myself to be able to take part in the plucking in good faith. td On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:09:12 -0700 > From: George Cremaschi > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] that cock is back > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > YES! William Osborne!!!Those were the days on this list! Sadly, it > hasn't come close to being that exciting since... > I notice in his essay that he strikes a much more fair-minded and > magnanimous tone than he did directly to the list. > Let's hold hands for this quote: "through the special human magic of > men and women coming together, digital music may reinvent the body- > electric." > To quote George Clooney, from 'Burn After Reading': "what a horse's > ass". Oops, is that "crudely macho and > sexist"? -George > > >> >> friends of this list are back in town: >> http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/event/2009/04/18/abbie_conant_and_william_osborne >> >> ah it's been too long... >> to refresh your memory: >> http://www.osborne-conant.org/speech.htm >> http://www.osborne-conant.org/stalwarts.htm >> >> >> m@ > Tom Djll 227 Otis St. Santa Cruz, CA 95060 (831) 429-8072 home (831) 423-3050 office (831) 320-1489 cell djll at sonic.net tom at mythmaker.com www.mythmaker.com Music, calendar, & bio: http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll More music w/sound snippets: http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer Photography: http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ From 21grand at 21grand.org Tue Mar 17 21:31:04 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:31:04 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] that cock is back In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had some really good fried garlic chicken today for lunch sl on 3/17/09 9:26 PM, Tom Dill at djll at sonic.net wrote: > Oh joy sublime! It's not often such a corpulent pigeon of pomposity is > offered up to one's sacrificial altar of cleverness. Those were fun > days. > > Sadly, I think I've grown too fat and pompous myself to be able to > take part in the plucking in good faith. > > td > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 9:00 PM, newmusic-request at music.mills.edu wrote: > >> Message: 3 >> Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:09:12 -0700 >> From: George Cremaschi >> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] that cock is back >> To: >> Message-ID: >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >> >> >> YES! William Osborne!!!Those were the days on this list! Sadly, it >> hasn't come close to being that exciting since... >> I notice in his essay that he strikes a much more fair-minded and >> magnanimous tone than he did directly to the list. >> Let's hold hands for this quote: "through the special human magic of >> men and women coming together, digital music may reinvent the body- >> electric." >> To quote George Clooney, from 'Burn After Reading': "what a horse's >> ass". Oops, is that "crudely macho and >> sexist"? -George >> >> >>> >>> friends of this list are back in town: >>> http://cnmat.berkeley.edu/event/2009/04/18/abbie_conant_and_william_osborne >>> >>> ah it's been too long... >>> to refresh your memory: >>> http://www.osborne-conant.org/speech.htm >>> http://www.osborne-conant.org/stalwarts.htm >>> >>> >>> m@ >> > > > Tom Djll > 227 Otis St. > Santa Cruz, CA 95060 > (831) 429-8072 home > (831) 423-3050 office > (831) 320-1489 cell > djll at sonic.net > tom at mythmaker.com > www.mythmaker.com > > Music, calendar, & bio: > http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll > > More music w/sound snippets: > http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer > > Photography: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/ > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 11:20:58 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:20:58 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny In-Reply-To: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: was this... last night? i seem to remember seeing a good chunk of the aforementioned, but in a different enclave of hipsterville with something to do with a well executed improvised film narration forced through a clipped-out kazoo mic (my only complaint for the evening - if the video and the music is extremely dynamic, one has to account for the vocals as well, not to say that they weren't effective as is - "hi it's mara, i can sing now...") just trying to set the record straight - the facts and nothing but the facts, if you will. rumor has it the ariel pink show at the bottom of the hill last night was fairly stellar as well. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: > posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 reflect > about the ivy: > > Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up now, > metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners > talking over the hoot. > > What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, > perceptible high and low points, ?bartenders reluctant to comp tens of > musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've come to > know, a plus on the social club side. > > In order: > John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should > hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I > brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen shelving. It > oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the > latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o-matic and > that was totally activating. > > Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar string > hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a way too > quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. > > Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his > ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried 2 see > this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life thing > that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither performance was > served by this. > > Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's > true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with Shiurban, like > an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. > > Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using a small > digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that totally > appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer space ren. > The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then artful > some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which had a > brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. > > School night, broke, had to pack up, go. > > -s > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From polly.moller at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 11:22:34 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 11:22:34 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny In-Reply-To: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <2eb068d40903181122v19d3d28y6a675be15b8d2475@mail.gmail.com> Thanks most awfully for the write-up, Suki! I had fun leaving the comet trail of danger. :) P. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: > posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 reflect > about the ivy: > > Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up now, > metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners > talking over the hoot. > > What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, > perceptible high and low points, bartenders reluctant to comp tens of > musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've come to > know, a plus on the social club side. > > In order: > John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should > hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I > brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen shelving. It > oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the > latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o-matic and > that was totally activating. > > Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar string > hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a way too > quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. > > Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his > ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried 2 see > this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life thing > that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither performance was > served by this. > > Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's > true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with Shiurban, like > an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. > > Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using a small > digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that totally > appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer space ren. > The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then artful > some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which had a > brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. > > School night, broke, had to pack up, go. > > -s > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets (link TBA) ******************************************************************************* From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 12:40:59 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <733106.93165.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> We got a?bit rushed for set up?and didn't really get a chance to do a thorough sound check.? The microphone sound slipped by me and was just happy it was working. ?Jon Raskin ________________________________ From: Travis Johns To: suki at zoka.com; Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:20:58 AM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny was this... last night? i seem to remember seeing a good chunk of the aforementioned, but in a different enclave of hipsterville with something to do with a well executed improvised film narration forced through a clipped-out kazoo mic (my only complaint for the evening - if the video and the music is extremely dynamic, one has to account for the vocals as well, not to say that they weren't effective as is - "hi it's mara, i can sing now...") just trying to set the record straight - the facts and nothing but the facts, if you will. rumor has it the ariel pink show at the bottom of the hill last night was fairly stellar as well. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: > posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 reflect > about the ivy: > > Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up now, > metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners > talking over the hoot. > > What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, > perceptible high and low points, ?bartenders reluctant to comp tens of > musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've come to > know, a plus on the social club side. > > In order: > John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should > hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I > brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen shelving. It > oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the > latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o-matic and > that was totally activating. > > Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar string > hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a way too > quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. > > Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his > ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried 2 see > this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life thing > that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither performance was > served by this. > > Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's > true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with Shiurban, like > an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. > > Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using a small > digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that totally > appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer space ren. > The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then artful > some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which had a > brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. > > School night, broke, had to pack up, go. > > -s > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Wed Mar 18 12:56:50 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 12:56:50 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny In-Reply-To: <733106.93165.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> <733106.93165.qm@web55603.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Eh, as mentioned, it wasn't a problem - with the "facts and nothing but the facts" quip, I was actually more curious about this amnesiac hootenanny thing Suki mentioned - the review seemed fairly glowing, albeit a.) it was the the first time I heard mention of the event and b.) a little confusing considering that a good number of the heads mentioned in the review were also at ATA... Props on the show though - a tremendous turnout and an innovative idea executed exquisitely! On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > We got a?bit rushed for set up?and didn't really get a chance to do a thorough sound check.? The microphone sound slipped by me and was just happy it was working. > ?Jon Raskin > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Travis Johns > To: suki at zoka.com; Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:20:58 AM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny > > was this... last night? i seem to remember seeing a good chunk of the > aforementioned, but in a different enclave of hipsterville with > something to do with a well executed improvised film narration forced > through a clipped-out kazoo mic (my only complaint for the evening - > if the video and the music is extremely dynamic, one has to account > for the vocals as well, not to say that they weren't effective as is - > "hi it's mara, i can sing now...") just trying to set the record > straight - the facts and nothing but the facts, if you will. > > rumor has it the ariel pink show at the bottom of the hill last night > was fairly stellar as well. > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: >> posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 reflect >> about the ivy: >> >> Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up now, >> metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners >> talking over the hoot. >> >> What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, >> perceptible high and low points, ?bartenders reluctant to comp tens of >> musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've come to >> know, a plus on the social club side. >> >> In order: >> John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should >> hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I >> brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen shelving. It >> oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the >> latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o-matic and >> that was totally activating. >> >> Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar string >> hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a way too >> quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. >> >> Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his >> ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried 2 see >> this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life thing >> that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither performance was >> served by this. >> >> Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's >> true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with Shiurban, like >> an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. >> >> Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using a small >> digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that totally >> appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer space ren. >> The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then artful >> some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which had a >> brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. >> >> School night, broke, had to pack up, go. >> >> -s >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From slusser at pixar.com Wed Mar 18 13:44:09 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:44:09 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny In-Reply-To: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <0468B391-02F5-40AA-8C52-736D8EC9547D@pixar.com> Thanks for posting, Suki. You're O'kane. We've had a forum in bars before...Heinz, Olive's, Starry Plough..to varying degrees of success...and it's interesting to look at the pluses and minuses. Not every type of presentation fares as well, but I noticed interested parties moved closer for the quiet stuff at the Ivy Room. I certainly had a good time Monday, and the social aspect was part of it. So was the beachhead aspect of having a nightspot for alternative sound culture in a mainstream setting. (A gay bar for musical queers?) It's not a serious concert setting, but that doesn't seem to be the point, anyway. It certainly works on the social and hootenany terms Lucio has set forth, and I commend his efforts. There's a few things that inevitably lead to some talk-through. (It's a plus that the bar is on a far wall, and bartender and people he talks to are at the far end.) No stage, no lights, no MC, low volume and no-break-in- the-music overlap certainly make it casual, but also de-emphasizes the music and it's presentation a bit. In the continuing flow, people greet and talk at sight. Also, with no formality, a newcomer might be confused. There is form, though: curation, solo interlude, featured act, solo interlude, curation, open stage. I was a solo interlude, and looking out in the audience, I saw a good band- full of musicians not on the show, some who had brought instruments. Most of them did not stick around for the open stage at 11:30. I guess there's a chance that the curators could include them, but they have to hook up somehow. I appreciated John Shiruba asking me to add a few things on his curation, and the spontaneity had very nice results. Variety was definitely a strong point this time. I loved the pipa in the featured act, and Amar's curation seemed like a well orchestrated composition; Polly's contribution on voice and flutes adding much to that. Myles (and friend w/vintage Qchord-like instrument) stuck it out for the open stage with a few of the evening's players, and that yielded a very nice mood to wrap up the night. On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: > posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 > reflect > about the ivy: > > Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up > now, > metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners > talking over the hoot. > > What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, > perceptible high and low points, bartenders reluctant to comp tens of > musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've > come to > know, a plus on the social club side. > > In order: > John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should > hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I > brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen > shelving. It > oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the > latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o- > matic and > that was totally activating. > > Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar > string > hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a > way too > quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. > > Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his > ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried > 2 see > this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life > thing > that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither > performance was > served by this. > > Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's > true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with > Shiurban, like > an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. > > Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using > a small > digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that > totally > appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer > space ren. > The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then > artful > some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which > had a > brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. > > School night, broke, had to pack up, go. > > -s > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From 21grand at 21grand.org Wed Mar 18 14:20:06 2009 From: 21grand at 21grand.org (Sarah - 21 Grand) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 14:20:06 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Local job opportunity for electronics people Message-ID: Hi, I am looking for a skilled tech to help with test and QC of our new Bluetooth violin bow. Part time work. Candidate will need to know how to read a schematic, use an oscilloscope, program micro-controller flash, debug linear circuits, op-amps, etc. Also detailed mechanical skills such as SMT soldering and fine part handling a must. Fun work environment - artistic bent and sense of humor a plus. Flexible work hours. Pay commensurate with skills. Send your resume to email above. Feel free to pass along - it's a frackin' job for goodness sake - help the economy - do your part. Thanks, Keith Keith A. McMillen www.keithmcmillen.com Kesumo, LLC 510.502.5310 Technology for Strings From suki at zoka.com Wed Mar 18 18:31:28 2009 From: suki at zoka.com (suki at zoka.com) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:31:28 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] riskier darker at ATA tues mar 17 Message-ID: <380-22009341913128620@M2W022.mail2web.com> An improvised film at ATA tuesday night, which mastermind Konrad Steiner revealed is actually an established art form with suggested guidelines, none of which the ensemble followed save for one: be conscious of duration. The opening film was fabulous, no live soundtrack but no matter. In fact, the relationship between the image and sound was strained for me and I gave over to the former. The 40-minute main act was ensemble minus gino: allbee horn, raskin electro reed, shiurba guitar and nishii koto with live poet overdub on konrad's meta-film, a new narrative stitched together from evocative sources. It was well-voiced on the fly, and travis is right the poet could have been higher in the mix but I came to accept him as another instrument mid-way thru - a leveling of meaning from all players. There was one moment of great crunchiness in guitar-vocal duet that built up from the visuals: short, intense bursts of sound and text that ratcheted everything up. I left thinking about konrad's next thing, an even deeper merging of neo benshi film talking with the perennially interesting live orchestra / performative cinema? A fixing of variables using more composition less improvisation? -s Original Message: ----------------- From: Travis Johns electric.tokyo at gmail.com b.) a little confusing considering that a good number of the heads mentioned in the review were also at ATA... Props on the show though - a tremendous turnout and an innovative idea executed exquisitely! On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Jon Raskin wrote: > We got a?bit rushed for set up?and didn't really get a chance to do a thorough sound check.? The microphone sound slipped by me and was just happy it was working. > ?Jon Raskin > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Travis Johns > To: suki at zoka.com; Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 11:20:58 AM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny > > was this... last night? i seem to remember seeing a good chunk of the > aforementioned, but in a -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From highhorse at mhorse.com Wed Mar 18 18:41:31 2009 From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 19:41:31 -0600 Subject: [NewMusic] riskier darker at ATA tues mar 17 In-Reply-To: <380-22009341913128620@M2W022.mail2web.com> References: <380-22009341913128620@M2W022.mail2web.com> Message-ID: <49C1A2CB.1090708@mhorse.com> Was there an improvised element to the visuals as well, or just the narrative and music? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > An improvised film at ATA tuesday night, which mastermind Konrad Steiner > revealed is actually an established art form with suggested guidelines, > none of which the ensemble followed save for one: be conscious of duration. > > The opening film was fabulous, no live soundtrack but no matter. In fact, > the relationship between the image and sound was strained for me and I gave > over to the former. > > The 40-minute main act was ensemble minus gino: allbee horn, raskin electro > reed, shiurba guitar and nishii koto with live poet overdub on konrad's > meta-film, a new narrative stitched together from evocative sources. It was > well-voiced on the fly, and travis is right the poet could have been higher > in the mix but I came to accept him as another instrument mid-way thru - a > leveling of meaning from all players. There was one moment of great > crunchiness in guitar-vocal duet that built up from the visuals: short, > intense bursts of sound and text that ratcheted everything up. > I left thinking about konrad's next thing, an even deeper merging of neo > benshi film talking with the perennially interesting live orchestra / > performative cinema? A fixing of variables using more composition less > improvisation? > From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Wed Mar 18 19:56:37 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 02:56:37 +0000 Subject: [NewMusic] riskier darker at ATA tues mar 17 Message-ID: <162508150-1237431426-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-118505657-@bxe1088.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> The film at the time of the showing was set. The rest of us had,'t seen the movie or rehearsed and we didn't have time for a. proper sound check. I put together an order of players which we couldn't read in the light so it was pretty much an open improv with a conscious effort to leave room for the text. Liz, Kanoko and talked about improvising with text and they both felt it was the music tended to stay on the surface and it was difficult to dig in. It is hard not to try and find meaning in the text which pulls you away from what you are trying to get at with the music. The film has some of that pull as well but not to the degree that hearing a voice saying words.. ------Original Message------ From: Daryl Shawn Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Mar 18, 2009 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] riskier darker at ATA tues mar 17 Was there an improvised element to the visuals as well, or just the narrative and music? Daryl Shawn www.swanwelder.com > An improvised film at ATA tuesday night, which mastermind Konrad Steiner > revealed is actually an established art form with suggested guidelines, > none of which the ensemble followed save for one: be conscious of duration. > > The opening film was fabulous, no live soundtrack but no matter. In fact, > the relationship between the image and sound was strained for me and I gave > over to the former. > > The 40-minute main act was ensemble minus gino: allbee horn, raskin electro > reed, shiurba guitar and nishii koto with live poet overdub on konrad's > meta-film, a new narrative stitched together from evocative sources. It was > well-voiced on the fly, and travis is right the poet could have been higher > in the mix but I came to accept him as another instrument mid-way thru - a > leveling of meaning from all players. There was one moment of great > crunchiness in guitar-vocal duet that built up from the visuals: short, > intense bursts of sound and text that ratcheted everything up. > I left thinking about konrad's next thing, an even deeper merging of neo > benshi film talking with the perennially interesting live orchestra / > performative cinema? A fixing of variables using more composition less > improvisation? > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry From slusser at pixar.com Thu Mar 19 09:42:56 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:42:56 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Parkway Speakeasy Message-ID: <1C79298E-9765-4578-B962-B55346672B6F@pixar.com> THE PARKWAY SPEAKEASY THEATER CLOSES ITS DOORS AND GOES DARK FOR GOOD THIS SUNDAY, MARCH 22, 2009: THE END OF AN ERA Dear Loyal Supporters: This is a sad but true message from Kyle Fischer, CEO of Speakeasy Theaters, and Catherine Fischer, President of Speakeasy Theaters. After more than twelve years of serving the great cultural crossroad of Oakland, the Parkway Speakeasy Theater will be closing at the end of business day this Sunday, March 22, 2009. From African Diaspora to Thrillville to lesbian fashion shows and educational porn, the Parkway has offered an eclectic array of movies and events. It was the first theater in California to offer food, beer and wine service in a lounge style movie theater. With a nudge or a push from the community, there was little programming the Parkway theater would not try in order to better be a community center and a safe haven for diverse ideas. The Parkway brought Baby Brigade for the shuttered and abandoned parents of newborns, the first international black gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgender film festival and Sunday Salon, a free event for cultural and community enhancement. We, at the Parkway Speakeasy Theater, are deeply proud of the Parkway and will profoundly miss serving its community. Thank you for your patronage. Programming at Parkway will remain as scheduled this Friday and Saturday, March 20 and 21. Stay tuned for special announcements about this Sunday, the final day of operations. The Speakeasy Experience lives on at the Cerrito. Most special events booked for Parkway, including regular attractions like "The Rocky Horror Picture Show," will be moving there. Stay tuned to our web site and this newsletter for updates. Please direct all inquiries to Kyle Fischer, Messages should be brief and pertinent, out of respect for this difficult reality, but will be appreciated. This is a tough time for all of us. From miltnerunit at gmail.com Thu Mar 19 09:50:56 2009 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 09:50:56 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Parkway Speakeasy In-Reply-To: <1C79298E-9765-4578-B962-B55346672B6F@pixar.com> References: <1C79298E-9765-4578-B962-B55346672B6F@pixar.com> Message-ID: NOOOOOOOOOO! NO that SUCKS so bad. k On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:42 AM, David Slusser wrote: > THE PARKWAY SPEAKEASY THEATER CLOSES ITS DOORS > > AND GOES DARK FOR GOOD THIS SUNDAY, MARCH 22, 2009: > THE END OF AN ERA > > > Dear Loyal Supporters: > > This is a sad but true message from Kyle Fischer, CEO of Speakeasy > Theaters, and Catherine Fischer, President of Speakeasy Theaters. > > After more than twelve years of serving the great cultural crossroad > of Oakland, the Parkway Speakeasy Theater will be closing at the end > of business day this Sunday, March 22, 2009. From African Diaspora to > Thrillville to lesbian fashion shows and educational porn, the Parkway > has offered an eclectic array of movies and events. It was the first > theater in California to offer food, beer and wine service in a lounge > style movie theater. With a nudge or a push from the community, there > was little programming the Parkway theater would not try in order to > better be a community center and a safe haven for diverse ideas. The > Parkway brought Baby Brigade for the shuttered and abandoned parents > of newborns, the first international black gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, > transgender film festival and Sunday Salon, a free event for cultural > and community enhancement. We, at the Parkway Speakeasy Theater, are > deeply proud of the Parkway and will profoundly miss serving its > community. Thank you for your patronage. > > Programming at Parkway will remain as scheduled this Friday and > Saturday, March 20 and 21. Stay tuned for special announcements about > this Sunday, the final day of operations. > > The Speakeasy Experience lives on at the Cerrito. Most special events > booked for Parkway, including regular attractions like "The Rocky > Horror Picture Show," will be moving there. Stay tuned to our web site > and this newsletter for updates. > > Please direct all inquiries to Kyle Fischer, at kf> > Messages should be brief and pertinent, out of respect for this > difficult reality, but will be appreciated. This is a tough time for > all of us. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.kristinmiltner.net www.myspace.com/miltnerunit http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html From amar at ptank.com Thu Mar 19 22:09:35 2009 From: amar at ptank.com (Amar Chaudhary) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 22:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] shiurba stewart sluss bruce and amar @ the hootenanny In-Reply-To: <0468B391-02F5-40AA-8C52-736D8EC9547D@pixar.com> References: <380-22009331834056587@M2W011.mail2web.com> <0468B391-02F5-40AA-8C52-736D8EC9547D@pixar.com> Message-ID: <61934.69.106.231.4.1237525775.squirrel@webmail.ptank.com> "Artful and listening, and then artful some more" [Suki] and "like a well orchestrated composition" [Slusser] are both high compliments. Thanks! -Amar > Thanks for posting, Suki. You're O'kane. > > We've had a forum in bars before...Heinz, Olive's, Starry Plough..to > varying > degrees of success...and it's interesting to look at the pluses and > minuses. > Not every type of presentation fares as well, but I noticed > interested parties > moved closer for the quiet stuff at the Ivy Room. I certainly had a > good time > Monday, and the social aspect was part of it. So was the beachhead > aspect > of having a nightspot for alternative sound culture in a mainstream > setting. > (A gay bar for musical queers?) It's not a serious concert setting, > but that > doesn't seem to be the point, anyway. It certainly works on the > social and > hootenany terms Lucio has set forth, and I commend his efforts. > > There's a few things that inevitably lead to some talk-through. > (It's a plus > that the bar is on a far wall, and bartender and people he talks to > are at > the far end.) No stage, no lights, no MC, low volume and no-break-in- > the-music > overlap certainly make it casual, but also de-emphasizes the music > and it's > presentation a bit. In the continuing flow, people greet and talk at > sight. > > Also, with no formality, a newcomer might be confused. There is > form, though: > curation, solo interlude, featured act, solo interlude, curation, > open stage. I was > a solo interlude, and looking out in the audience, I saw a good band- > full of > musicians not on the show, some who had brought instruments. Most of > them > did not stick around for the open stage at 11:30. I guess there's a > chance that > the curators could include them, but they have to hook up somehow. I > appreciated John Shiruba asking me to add a few things on his > curation, and the > spontaneity had very nice results. Variety was definitely a strong > point this > time. I loved the pipa in the featured act, and Amar's curation > seemed like a > well orchestrated composition; Polly's contribution on voice and > flutes adding > much to that. Myles (and friend w/vintage Qchord-like instrument) > stuck it > out for the open stage with a few of the evening's players, and that > yielded > a very nice mood to wrap up the night. > > > On Mar 17, 2009, at 8:40 PM, suki at zoka.com wrote: >> posting from the open mic comedy stage @ amnesia, a perfect place 2 >> reflect >> about the ivy: >> >> Lucio's Noise improv hootenanny and social clubs seem all grown up >> now, >> metastizing raidly and this is how u no: there are non-music listeners >> talking over the hoot. >> >> What was once a low-key playground for, well, chaos now has structure, >> perceptible high and low points, bartenders reluctant to comp tens of >> musicians (fuck!) and a maybe fatigued public, some of whom I've >> come to >> know, a plus on the social club side. >> >> In order: >> John shiurba, who has a crazy emming effing pedal that everyone should >> hear. This should have been a solo set but john axed me to play so I >> brought a low tom and most everything from the open kitchen >> shelving. It >> oscillated between small articulated things and very heavy things, the >> latter holding promise.slusser joined in using the eponymous-o- >> matic and >> that was totally activating. >> >> Devolved to errol stewart who had contact mic clamped some guitar >> string >> hair to the tuning pegs of his guitar that made a very good, and a >> way too >> quiet sound. Talkers. Fie. >> >> Then to bruce bennet Who had an idiomatic 6/8 bell pattern driving his >> ensemble and a tupperware of halva I was never ready to eat.I tried >> 2 see >> this in light of an earlier hoot wth boisen-hanes doing a high life >> thing >> that had been provocatively compressed into a duo.Neither >> performance was >> served by this. >> >> Slusser slussed. It hadn't occurred to me he was his own verb but it's >> true. His playing made me pine for his earlier playing with >> Shiurban, like >> an hour earlier.After his set I left the ivy to get some air. >> >> Amar had been dovetailing, in true hoot fashion, into Slusser using >> a small >> digitally-controlled, u know, like analog digit as in finger, that >> totally >> appeared to me to be the big red shiny candy button of the outer >> space ren. >> The important part is that he was artful and listening, and then >> artful >> some more. Polly Moller on vocals and flute, text and tones, which >> had a >> brittle energy and a persistent comet trail of danger. >> >> School night, broke, had to pack up, go. >> >> -s >> >> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> mail2web - Check your email from the web at >> http://mail2web.com/ . >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Fri Mar 20 14:22:55 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 14:22:55 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] ::new box on the block:: Message-ID: At this point i take a step back to ponder why i put all my posts in colons like that... as far as i can tell it makes them seem all important and newswire-y... or so i'd like to believe... But ANYWAYS, just a heads up that a new synth just rolled off the assembly line up here in the land north of the panhandle - cute, fancy, compact and living in a plastic box painted silver, purple and blue. We're still working with the previous schema of three oscillators and two filters, but this time the oscillators are much simpler and the filters much more fancy. Unfortunately, with this current incarnation, the prospects of playing only via body contact is a little limited, though alligator clips work just fine. Altogether, this critter, while capable of some pretty astounding textures seems to be much more beat-oriented than its predecessors, spitting out some nice lurching analog pulses and chirps, perfect for anyones analog-synth dance party. But enough verbosity for now - if anyone has any questions or would like to check this beasty out in person, you know the number. Current price for said unit = $100, including battery strap, a handful of alligator clips, a fresh battery and the usual warranty of "if I can fix it, I will - provided you don't fuck it up beyond repair prior to bringing it into the shop for service." Pix of the critter = http://circuitryexposed.blogspot.com - number 008, to be exact. Ah yes, also, if anyone's ever interested in hacking together some 'tronics in some sort of informal freeschool/workshop setting, let me know. I think the first "class" is going to be on Saturday, May 9th, with the inaugural featured project being a Music from Outer Space Weird Sound Generator - a decent "my first synth" project. cost of admission is byo - namely, byo kit (available online for about $90 or so), soldering iron, mixtape to share and work to and some sort of potluck dish to share with the gang. Right now there's already about 6 or so people interested in undertaking this dealy with one or two more places at the table - however, if people are interested in doing something like this in the future there's always other kits and other projects we all could jam on. The possibilities, they be endless. But cool, enough for now. Interested/ing people, talk to me, yo! t. From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 01:20:11 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 01:20:11 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing Message-ID: So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? Matt Davignon www.ribosomemusic.com From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Mar 22 08:03:07 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 11:03:07 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 3/22/09, Matt Davignon wrote: >I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a >certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? >What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? >(Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? Yes, you need to use the special YouTube 2000 InterWeb-Ready Video Camera System (TM). This is the only kind of device that will allow you to put your videos on YouTube. It retails for $1,999.00, but you can probably find one on the Google for $1,995.00. If you do have a computer already, make sure it is YouTube-enabled (this can be found somewhere in the Owner's Manual, which is usually only on a disc that comes with the computer). Wait, that can't be right. Maybe the info at this link is more up to date: MZ From slusser at pixar.com Sun Mar 22 14:17:30 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:17:30 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's > Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis > month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers > make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: > > Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay > area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? > > I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a > certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? > What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? > (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions ...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a linkable series from a single "channel". My kids have shot things with their built-in laptop cam or cell phone and posted to u-toob. If you get it going, maybe you could get permission to post (promotional) bits from 'Noisy People' as well. Here's an example of a user channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidSlusser From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 14:51:30 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 14:51:30 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette recorder mic. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Slusser wrote: > On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > >> So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's >> Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis >> month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers >> make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: >> >> Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay >> area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? >> >> I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a >> certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? >> What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? >> (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? > > > Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area > musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions > ...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait > that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. > > That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a > linkable series from a single "channel". ?My kids have shot > things with their built-in laptop cam or cell phone and posted > to u-toob. ?If you get it going, maybe you could get permission > to post (promotional) bits from 'Noisy People' as well. > > Here's an example of a user channel: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidSlusser > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From electric.tokyo at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 15:07:48 2009 From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:07:48 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: check the tech specs and consumer reviews. also, you have o remember that youtube compresses the shit out of just about everything anyway - if you're looking for some sort of sterling quality symphony-tastic experience, you might want to look into encoding your own videos and streaming from your own website or something. tutorials = here: http://www.longtailvideo.com/players/jw-flv-player/ notice the similarities! however, back to camera discussions, look to see if any of your prospective cammys have external audio ins - the adc might still suck, but you might scrap some quality together by using a better mic with some decent onboard preamps, etc. thank you for calling technical support. at the tone please key in your 4 digit department code for proper inter-department billing protocol. if you are not using touch-tone phone, the acceptable inter-department transfer forms can be obtained from any blue-level manager or higher. (t) On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) > > So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no > idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio > demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no > reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette > recorder mic. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Slusser wrote: >> On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> >>> So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's >>> Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis >>> month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers >>> make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: >>> >>> Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay >>> area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? >>> >>> I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a >>> certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? >>> What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? >>> (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? >> >> >> Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area >> musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions >> ...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait >> that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. >> >> That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a >> linkable series from a single "channel". ?My kids have shot >> things with their built-in laptop cam or cell phone and posted >> to u-toob. ?If you get it going, maybe you could get permission >> to post (promotional) bits from 'Noisy People' as well. >> >> Here's an example of a user channel: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidSlusser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From slusser at pixar.com Sun Mar 22 15:22:32 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:22:32 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: On Mar 22, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) > > So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no > idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio > demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no > reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette > recorder mic. Most moderate consumer Digital Video camcorders have decent built in mics (though balanced to favor the voice range and the "intelligence curve" bump around 4 or 5 kHz...as do pro-sumer mini-plug mics) and the audio format is 48k 16 bit, which is better than CD quality. A built-mic will do if you put the camera in the best place to get the sound of the instrument, and still have a decent shot. To get the file small enough to upload to u-toob requires a lot of picture compression, but it doesn't seem to affect the audio quality much, if at all (audio being a mere fraction of the total file size). From jzitt at metatronpress.com Sun Mar 22 15:52:49 2009 From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 18:52:49 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: I'm been surprised and pleased at the quality from my Flip camera. Not pro caliber, but pretty good. I shot all the videos at http://www.josephzitt.com/home/video/ with it, just setting it up on a table and pressing the Big Red Button. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) > > So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no > idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio > demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no > reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette > recorder mic. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Slusser wrote: >> On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> >>> So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's >>> Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis >>> month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers >>> make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: >>> >>> Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay >>> area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? >>> >>> I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a >>> certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? >>> What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? >>> (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? >> >> >> Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area >> musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions >> ...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait >> that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. >> >> That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a >> linkable series from a single "channel". ?My kids have shot >> things with their built-in laptop cam or cell phone and posted >> to u-toob. ?If you get it going, maybe you could get permission >> to post (promotional) bits from 'Noisy People' as well. >> >> Here's an example of a user channel: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidSlusser >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 15:53:49 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 15:53:49 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: Thanks Joseph! That's the one I was thinking of getting, since it's dirt cheap on Amazon. And it comes in orange. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Joseph Zitt wrote: > I'm been surprised and pleased at the quality from my Flip camera. Not > pro caliber, but pretty good. I shot all the videos at > http://www.josephzitt.com/home/video/ with it, just setting it up on a > table and pressing the Big Red Button. > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: >> (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) >> >> So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no >> idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio >> demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no >> reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette >> recorder mic. >> >> On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, David Slusser wrote: >>> On Mar 22, 2009, at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: >>> >>>> So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's >>>> Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis >>>> month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers >>>> make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: >>>> >>>> Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay >>>> area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? >>>> >>>> I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a >>>> certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? >>>> What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? >>>> (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? >>> >>> >>> Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area >>> musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions >>> ...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait >>> that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. >>> >>> That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a >>> linkable series from a single "channel". ?My kids have shot >>> things with their built-in laptop cam or cell phone and posted >>> to u-toob. ?If you get it going, maybe you could get permission >>> to post (promotional) bits from 'Noisy People' as well. >>> >>> Here's an example of a user channel: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidSlusser >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > > > > -- > Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From miltnerunit at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 17:46:02 2009 From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (kristin miltner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:46:02 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: matt, just plug a stereo mic into your camcorder. Most of them have at lease a mini jack, and you can get from xlr down to mini in a number of ways. or record audio onto something good, separately, then sync them later w/ basic video editing software. most video editing tools, even the simpler ones, will have internet-ready settings where you can control the compression rate of your synced sound, k On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 3:22 PM, David Slusser wrote: > > On Mar 22, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Matt Davignon wrote: > > > (still stinging from sarcasm wounds) > > > > So, I found what looks like affordable camcorders on Amazon, but no > > idea if the microphones would be anywhere decent enough for audio > > demos. Has anyone found anything they'd suggest? I guess there's no > > reason to believe they'd be any worse than a handheld cassette > > recorder mic. > > Most moderate consumer Digital Video camcorders have decent built > in mics (though balanced to favor the voice range and the "intelligence > curve" bump around 4 or 5 kHz...as do pro-sumer mini-plug mics) > and the audio format is 48k 16 bit, which is better than CD quality. > > A built-mic will do if you put the camera in the best place to get the > sound of the instrument, and still have a decent shot. To get the > file small enough to upload to u-toob requires a lot of picture > compression, but it doesn't seem to affect the audio quality much, > if at all (audio being a mere fraction of the total file size). > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- kristin miltner audio professional www.kristinmiltner.net www.myspace.com/miltnerunit http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html From michaelz at zoka.com Sun Mar 22 18:32:44 2009 From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 21:32:44 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: On 3/22/09, David Slusser wrote: >Wait...I saw this video that had all these different bay area >musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions >...I think it was called 'Nosey People" or something...wait >that's almost as sarcastic as Michael Zelner's response. I thought my response was very helpful, actually (the very last part, anyway). >That's actually a good idea, Matt, especially if you do it as a >linkable series from a single "channel". Yeah, what Mr. Slusser said. MZ From pnyboer at slambassador.com Sun Mar 22 22:31:46 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:31:46 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D5C455E-C2DB-46F3-B00F-FE2B0C1B9F2B@slambassador.com> You may want to consider www.vimeo.com as the quality is way better and has more "indie cred." Kidding... but true. I have a panasonic DV camera that you can borrow if you want to try that format. I'll be in the upper Bay area next weekend. A DV camera will give more options and flexibility than the Flip at the expense of being a bit more of a pain to setup. Peter. From mattdavignon at gmail.com Sun Mar 22 23:29:20 2009 From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:29:20 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: <3D5C455E-C2DB-46F3-B00F-FE2B0C1B9F2B@slambassador.com> References: <3D5C455E-C2DB-46F3-B00F-FE2B0C1B9F2B@slambassador.com> Message-ID: I just ordered the Flip on line, then 30 minutes later realized it was the definition of an impulse buy. (File next to MicroKorg, Kaoss Pad and Line 6 Pod - is anyone in the market for one of those things?) Ah well, it's been on my mind for a while - we'll see if I actually manage to squeeze in the time with all my other stuff. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > You may want to consider www.vimeo.com as the quality is way better > and has more "indie cred." ?Kidding... but true. ?I have a panasonic > DV camera that you can borrow if you want to try that format. I'll be > in the upper Bay area next weekend. > A DV camera will give more options and flexibility than the Flip at > the expense of being a bit more of a pain to setup. > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From tim at perkis.com Sun Mar 22 23:47:52 2009 From: tim at perkis.com (Tim Perkis) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:47:52 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing - ITS SUPPOSED TO BE EASY In-Reply-To: References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> Message-ID: <49C73098.5090602@perkis.com> Matt, I posted a little video on youtube awhile back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX21HCTClik I did this with my little nikon point-and-shoot still camera. It was my first trial take, and I did more takes later with my fancy-pants HDV Canon HV20 camcorder, and it was such a pain in the ass figuring out how to convert it to something that didnt look terrible on youtube that I ended up using that first what-I-thought-was-a-throwaway test take made with the still camera. My still camera made a little AVI, which yotube converted to something that looked pretty good... that is, good enough for youtube. And better than anything I could manage get out of my HDV + finalcut/compressor, etc... I finally realized "good enough" is what youtube video is all about. Sounds like a great idea, go for it, and don't sweat the technology! From tim at perkis.com Sun Mar 22 23:51:25 2009 From: tim at perkis.com (Tim Perkis) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2009 23:51:25 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing - ITS SUPPOSED TO BE EASY In-Reply-To: <49C73098.5090602@perkis.com> References: <3F5DEF2E-C557-4D97-B490-D23BB9B542E7@pixar.com> <49C73098.5090602@perkis.com> Message-ID: <49C7316D.4070105@perkis.com> And yeah, as Peter sez, vimeo is hipper and looks better (my same video there, for comparison): http://vimeo.com/3012199 Tim Perkis wrote: > Matt, I posted a little video on youtube awhile back: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TX21HCTClik > > I did this with my little nikon point-and-shoot still camera. It was my > first trial take, and I did more takes later with my fancy-pants HDV > Canon HV20 camcorder, and it was such a pain in the ass figuring out how > to convert it to something that didnt look terrible on youtube that I > ended up using that first what-I-thought-was-a-throwaway test take made > with the still camera. > > My still camera made a little AVI, which yotube converted to something > that looked pretty good... that is, good enough for youtube. And better > than anything I could manage get out of my HDV + finalcut/compressor, > etc... > > I finally realized "good enough" is what youtube video is all about. > > Sounds like a great idea, go for it, and don't sweat the technology! > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Mon Mar 23 05:23:58 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 05:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: <3D5C455E-C2DB-46F3-B00F-FE2B0C1B9F2B@slambassador.com> Message-ID: <970180.80333.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Matt, I have the HD version of the Flip.? It couldn't be easier to use. It self loads the software onto the computer.? You select clips and it automatically makes into a movie.? It let's you add music.? It?has a microphone that?is okay.??I think it even comes with a little camera stand.? It charges with the USB port connection.? It has a small zoom. The software comes built in so that you can upload youtube, myspace, facebook etc. and it works like a charm. All in all in it is a well designed prodcut that is easy to use and for the price a good starter camera.? I'm using it to get a feel for shootting and composition of a shot. Since you can carry it anywhere it makes it easy to shoot candid footage. Some issues: Low light washes out the color the recording screen is tiny so you can't really see what you a shooting. The focus length is?something you have to learn.? You can't get to close to the lense. Jon Raskin ________________________________ From: Matt Davignon To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:29:20 PM Subject: Re: [NewMusic] youtubing I just ordered the Flip on line, then 30 minutes later realized it was the definition of an impulse buy. (File next to MicroKorg, Kaoss Pad and Line 6 Pod - is anyone in the market for one of those things?) Ah well, it's been on my mind for a while - we'll see if I actually manage to squeeze in the time? with all my other stuff. On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > You may want to consider www.vimeo.com as the quality is way better > and has more "indie cred." ?Kidding... but true. ?I have a panasonic > DV camera that you can borrow if you want to try that format. I'll be > in the upper Bay area next weekend. > A DV camera will give more options and flexibility than the Flip at > the expense of being a bit more of a pain to setup. > > Peter. > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From jzitt at metatronpress.com Mon Mar 23 06:36:23 2009 From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 09:36:23 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: <970180.80333.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <3D5C455E-C2DB-46F3-B00F-FE2B0C1B9F2B@slambassador.com> <970180.80333.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: While my Flip didn't come with a stand, I got the Joby GP1-A1EN Gorillapod Flexible Tripod. I can stand or mount the camera with reasonable stability just about anywhere or attached to anything with it. On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:23 AM, Jon Raskin wrote: > Matt, > > I have the HD version of the Flip.? It couldn't be easier to use. It self loads the software onto the computer.? You select clips and it automatically makes into a movie.? It let's you add music.? It?has a microphone that?is okay.??I think it even comes with a little camera stand.? It charges with the USB port connection.? It has a small zoom. > > The software comes built in so that you can upload youtube, myspace, facebook etc. and it works like a charm. > > All in all in it is a well designed prodcut that is easy to use and for the price a good starter camera.? I'm using it to get a feel for shootting and composition of a shot. > > Since you can carry it anywhere it makes it easy to shoot candid footage. > > Some issues: > Low light washes out the color > the recording screen is tiny so you can't really see what you a shooting. > The focus length is?something you have to learn.? You can't get to close to the lense. > > Jon Raskin > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Matt Davignon > To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2009 11:29:20 PM > Subject: Re: [NewMusic] youtubing > > I just ordered the Flip on line, then 30 minutes later realized it was > the definition of an impulse buy. (File next to MicroKorg, Kaoss Pad > and Line 6 Pod - is anyone in the market for one of those things?) > > Ah well, it's been on my mind for a while - we'll see if I actually > manage to squeeze in the time? with all my other stuff. > > > On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 10:31 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: >> You may want to consider www.vimeo.com as the quality is way better >> and has more "indie cred." ?Kidding... but true. ?I have a panasonic >> DV camera that you can borrow if you want to try that format. I'll be >> in the upper Bay area next weekend. >> A DV camera will give more options and flexibility than the Flip at >> the expense of being a bit more of a pain to setup. >> >> Peter. >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic >> > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > -- Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com From weaselw at juno.com Mon Mar 23 11:08:53 2009 From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 11:08:53 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing Message-ID: <20090323.110854.5152.50.weaselw@juno.com> if anyone would like to see the difference in quality between a vimeo upload and a youtube upload, below are links to the rock video promo of the new HENRY KAISER/DAMON SMITH/WEASEL WALTER cd "plane crash (out now on ugEXPLODE Records). enjoy. http://www.vimeo.com/3814891 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALyZA1Codjw ww ____________________________________________________________ Click to find local LDS singles for dating and romance. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLnyxBQDtq5TH1QMVjOe9b8AxC34jXZtvvbNEebdGBW66Lr6r0XXC/ From per.bloland at gmail.com Mon Mar 23 19:57:17 2009 From: per.bloland at gmail.com (Per Bloland) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 22:57:17 -0400 Subject: [NewMusic] Scott Rosenberg's email Message-ID: Does anyone have an email for Scott Rosenberg handy? If so, could you pass it to me off list? Thanks, Per From pnyboer at slambassador.com Mon Mar 23 21:15:35 2009 From: pnyboer at slambassador.com (Peter Nyboer) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:15:35 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] utubin In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7EAB65D1-EFB8-42E8-9D22-13491FAFCA0E@slambassador.com> The only advantage to youtube is that it helps search optimization. More people search for stuff on youtube, and they only get youtube content as a result. I expect that this will not impact any efforts to spread the germs of BANEWMUS as the infection will occur from embedding, linking, conversation, twitter, facebook, and email groups. Maybe friendster, too? In conclusion, use vimeo. Pete. From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Mon Mar 23 21:21:30 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2009 21:21:30 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] utubin In-Reply-To: <7EAB65D1-EFB8-42E8-9D22-13491FAFCA0E@slambassador.com> References: <7EAB65D1-EFB8-42E8-9D22-13491FAFCA0E@slambassador.com> Message-ID: <88A6FEC3-A993-49D9-9F03-1BC1E94A92DC@balancepointacoustics.com> Vimeo is nice, it looks really good, Mark Palmer has put some really nice videos of gigs with Weasel and I on there. I guess you could say if you want to show people your video, use vimeo, if you want to them to find it and watch it, use youtube. If you really want it around, post it in a few places. On Mar 23, 2009, at 9:15 PM, Peter Nyboer wrote: > The only advantage to youtube is that it helps search optimization. > More people search for stuff on youtube, and they only get youtube > content as a result. I expect that this will not impact any efforts > to spread the germs of BANEWMUS as the infection will occur from > embedding, linking, conversation, twitter, facebook, and email > groups. Maybe friendster, too? In conclusion, use vimeo. > > Pete. > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Tue Mar 24 16:34:30 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 16:34:30 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and William Osborne References: Message-ID: Begin forwarded message: > From: Richard Andrews > Date: March 24, 2009 4:07:14 PM PDT > To: Recipient List Suppressed:; > Subject: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and > William Osborne > > CNMAT presents: > > Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne > Tuesday, March 31, 3 pm > CNMAT > Free > > > Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne present a talk > on the history of their collaboration through the years. The talk > is free and open to the public. > > Topics will include: > > 1. Techniques for creating music theater texts > 2. Inter-disciplinary performance practices > 3. Compositional theory in music theater > 4. Use of computers, surround sound, lighting and video in > performance art and music theater > 5. The Conant /Osborne collaboration > 6. Historical influence of music theater > > > Abbie Conant is somewhat of a legend in the brass world. She was > principal trombone of the Munich Philharmonic for 13 years and > recorded a critically acclaimed CD entitled, Trombone and Organ/ > Posaune und Orgel. The story of her struggle for equal treatment > and the same pay as her male colleagues in the Munich Philharmonic > appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Der Spiegel and many other > newspapers and makes up the last chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's book > Blink which was on the New York Times bestseller list for 18 weeks. > A full length documentary called, "Abbie Conant, Alone Among Men," > was aired several times on 3-SAT European television. With her > composer-husband William Osborne she has created a grippingly > dramatic repertoire of music theatre works for acting/singing > trombonist. The artist couple has toured to over 140 cities in > Europe and the USA with their own multimedia productions. UC > Berkeley composer, Cindy Cox composed the piece Hysteria for > trombone and tape for Ms. Conant. > > William Osborne studied with George Crumb in Philadelphia and with > Franco Donatoni at the National Academy of Italy. Among his awards > are two from the American Society of Authors, Composers, and > Publishers, a Doctoral Fellowship to Columbia University, and a > prize from the Munich Theater Commission. Since 1993 his works have > been performed in over 140 cities in North America and Europe. Mr. > Osborne has written numerous articles about the social and > political influences of symphony orchestras including "Symphony > Orchestras and Artist-Prophets" published by the M.I.T. Press. He > has appeared on "Good Morning America" and NPR as well as having > been the subject of a feature article by MSNBC. > > > Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) > http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ > CNMAT is located at 1750 Arch Street, Berkeley, CA and is > wheelchair accessible > > -- > Richard Andrews > Associate Director > Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) > UC Berkeley > (510) 643-9990 x300 Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From slusser at pixar.com Tue Mar 24 17:45:38 2009 From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:45:38 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and William Osborne In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Didn't know Damon was interested in musical theater. The event may become performance art in itself. On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Damon Smith wrote: > Begin forwarded message: > >> From: Richard Andrews >> Date: March 24, 2009 4:07:14 PM PDT >> To: Recipient List Suppressed:; >> Subject: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and >> William Osborne >> >> CNMAT presents: >> >> Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne >> Tuesday, March 31, 3 pm >> CNMAT >> Free >> >> >> Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne present a talk >> on the history of their collaboration through the years. The talk >> is free and open to the public. >> >> Topics will include: >> >> 1. Techniques for creating music theater texts >> 2. Inter-disciplinary performance practices >> 3. Compositional theory in music theater >> 4. Use of computers, surround sound, lighting and video in >> performance art and music theater >> 5. The Conant /Osborne collaboration >> 6. Historical influence of music theater >> >> >> Abbie Conant is somewhat of a legend in the brass world. She was >> principal trombone of the Munich Philharmonic for 13 years and >> recorded a critically acclaimed CD entitled, Trombone and Organ/ >> Posaune und Orgel. The story of her struggle for equal treatment >> and the same pay as her male colleagues in the Munich Philharmonic >> appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Der Spiegel and many other >> newspapers and makes up the last chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's book >> Blink which was on the New York Times bestseller list for 18 weeks. >> A full length documentary called, "Abbie Conant, Alone Among Men," >> was aired several times on 3-SAT European television. With her >> composer-husband William Osborne she has created a grippingly >> dramatic repertoire of music theatre works for acting/singing >> trombonist. The artist couple has toured to over 140 cities in >> Europe and the USA with their own multimedia productions. UC >> Berkeley composer, Cindy Cox composed the piece Hysteria for >> trombone and tape for Ms. Conant. >> >> William Osborne studied with George Crumb in Philadelphia and with >> Franco Donatoni at the National Academy of Italy. Among his awards >> are two from the American Society of Authors, Composers, and >> Publishers, a Doctoral Fellowship to Columbia University, and a >> prize from the Munich Theater Commission. Since 1993 his works have >> been performed in over 140 cities in North America and Europe. Mr. >> Osborne has written numerous articles about the social and >> political influences of symphony orchestras including "Symphony >> Orchestras and Artist-Prophets" published by the M.I.T. Press. He >> has appeared on "Good Morning America" and NPR as well as having >> been the subject of a feature article by MSNBC. >> >> >> Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) >> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ >> CNMAT is located at 1750 Arch Street, Berkeley, CA and is >> wheelchair accessible >> >> -- >> Richard Andrews >> Associate Director >> Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) >> UC Berkeley >> (510) 643-9990 x300 > > Damon Smith > > http://www.balancepointacoustics.com > http://myspace.com/smithdamon > New solo project: > http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From damon at balancepointacoustics.com Tue Mar 24 17:55:47 2009 From: damon at balancepointacoustics.com (Damon Smith) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 17:55:47 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Fwd: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and William Osborne In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I actually tried playing bass for theater at the same time I started my part-time job at Blick - it paid less and was a lot more degrading! On Mar 24, 2009, at 5:45 PM, David Slusser wrote: > Didn't know Damon was interested in musical theater. > The event may become performance art in itself. > > On Mar 24, 2009, at 4:34 PM, Damon Smith wrote: > >> Begin forwarded message: >> >>> From: Richard Andrews >>> Date: March 24, 2009 4:07:14 PM PDT >>> To: Recipient List Suppressed:; >>> Subject: Lecture at CNMAT Tues., 3/31, 3 pm: Abbie Conant and >>> William Osborne >>> >>> CNMAT presents: >>> >>> Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne >>> Tuesday, March 31, 3 pm >>> CNMAT >>> Free >>> >>> >>> Trombonist Abbie Conant and Composer William Osborne present a talk >>> on the history of their collaboration through the years. The talk >>> is free and open to the public. >>> >>> Topics will include: >>> >>> 1. Techniques for creating music theater texts >>> 2. Inter-disciplinary performance practices >>> 3. Compositional theory in music theater >>> 4. Use of computers, surround sound, lighting and video in >>> performance art and music theater >>> 5. The Conant /Osborne collaboration >>> 6. Historical influence of music theater >>> >>> >>> Abbie Conant is somewhat of a legend in the brass world. She was >>> principal trombone of the Munich Philharmonic for 13 years and >>> recorded a critically acclaimed CD entitled, Trombone and Organ/ >>> Posaune und Orgel. The story of her struggle for equal treatment >>> and the same pay as her male colleagues in the Munich Philharmonic >>> appeared in the Wall Street Journal, Der Spiegel and many other >>> newspapers and makes up the last chapter of Malcolm Gladwell's book >>> Blink which was on the New York Times bestseller list for 18 weeks. >>> A full length documentary called, "Abbie Conant, Alone Among Men," >>> was aired several times on 3-SAT European television. With her >>> composer-husband William Osborne she has created a grippingly >>> dramatic repertoire of music theatre works for acting/singing >>> trombonist. The artist couple has toured to over 140 cities in >>> Europe and the USA with their own multimedia productions. UC >>> Berkeley composer, Cindy Cox composed the piece Hysteria for >>> trombone and tape for Ms. Conant. >>> >>> William Osborne studied with George Crumb in Philadelphia and with >>> Franco Donatoni at the National Academy of Italy. Among his awards >>> are two from the American Society of Authors, Composers, and >>> Publishers, a Doctoral Fellowship to Columbia University, and a >>> prize from the Munich Theater Commission. Since 1993 his works have >>> been performed in over 140 cities in North America and Europe. Mr. >>> Osborne has written numerous articles about the social and >>> political influences of symphony orchestras including "Symphony >>> Orchestras and Artist-Prophets" published by the M.I.T. Press. He >>> has appeared on "Good Morning America" and NPR as well as having >>> been the subject of a feature article by MSNBC. >>> >>> >>> Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) >>> http://www.cnmat.berkeley.edu/ >>> CNMAT is located at 1750 Arch Street, Berkeley, CA and is >>> wheelchair accessible >>> >>> -- >>> Richard Andrews >>> Associate Director >>> Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT) >>> UC Berkeley >>> (510) 643-9990 x300 >> >> Damon Smith >> >> http://www.balancepointacoustics.com >> http://myspace.com/smithdamon >> New solo project: >> http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group >> NewMusic at music.mills.edu >> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic Damon Smith http://www.balancepointacoustics.com http://myspace.com/smithdamon New solo project: http://www.myspace.com/damonsmithsolo From jon_raskin at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 07:50:10 2009 From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] for the geeks Message-ID: <609131.55850.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com> The link is for?10 OS systems that?are gone that the geek side of the list may find amusing.? It made think of the music side of?the technology that corresponds with this list and products that?had?an impact but short shelf life. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Operating+Systems&articleId=9129459&taxonomyId=89&pageNumber=7 ?Jon Raskin From letucepry at yahoo.com Wed Mar 25 09:27:35 2009 From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [NewMusic] for the geeks In-Reply-To: <609131.55850.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com> References: <609131.55850.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <408615.41046.qm@web54302.mail.re2.yahoo.com> OS/2 is gone? Quick, someone tell the people I work for...If ONLY I didn't have to deal with that geriatric OS...next you're gonna tell me that people don't use Token Ring anymore... lettuce ________________________________ From: Jon Raskin To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 7:50:10 AM Subject: [NewMusic] for the geeks The link is for?10 OS systems that?are gone that the geek side of the list may find amusing.? It made think of the music side of?the technology that corresponds with this list and products that?had?an impact but short shelf life. http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&taxonomyName=Operating+Systems&articleId?29459&taxonomyId?&pageNumber=7 ?Jon Raskin _______________________________________________ Bay Area New Music Discussion Group NewMusic at music.mills.edu http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic From polly.moller at gmail.com Fri Mar 27 14:42:18 2009 From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller) Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 14:42:18 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Music non-profit seeks CFO Message-ID: <2eb068d40903271442x5cc5b1c5qf5b8596c251fc932@mail.gmail.com> If you are, or if you know, the future Director of Finance and Operations of the San Francisco Girls Chorus, please send the resume of this individual to me off list. Thanks! P. -- ******************************************************************************* OUTSOUND PRESENTS THE 8th ANNUAL OUTSOUND NEW MUSIC SUMMIT http://www.outsound.org/summit/index.html JULY 19 ? 25, 2009 The Community Music Center 544 Capp Street@ 20th, San Francisco, CA $12 General / $6 Student, Advance Tickets $10 (general only) @ Brown Paper Tickets http://www.brownpapertickets.com/event/61377 Make a tax deductible donation today! https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=4207333 ******************************************************************************* From djcypod at gmail.com Sun Mar 29 20:58:01 2009 From: djcypod at gmail.com (b) Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 20:58:01 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] youtubing In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I recently uploaded to vimeo from my miniDV camera using iMovie, with the following settings: H.264 Decoder, 640 x 480, Millions AAC, Stereo (L R), 44.100 kHz Also Deinterlaced the frames and used a fixed aspect ratio letter box to change the size. Most video editing packages should have these types of options. In the help section you should see some more specific info regarding format http://vimeo.com/help/compression On Sun, Mar 22, 2009 at 1:20 AM, Matt Davignon wrote: > So, between setting up another Touch the Gear event for this year's > Outsound Music Summit, reading my own little top 10 list inthis > month's transbay, and watching youtube videos of how hip hop producers > make their beats on samplers, it occurred to me: > > Wouldn't it be neat to put videos up on youtube about different bay > area musicians demoing their unique gear setups and inventions? > > I'm totally in the dark about how youtube videos are made. Is there a > certain kind of camera that makes movies in the right kind of format? > What's the least amount of money necessary to get set up for this? > (Assuming I already have a computer.) Does anyone know? > > Matt Davignon > www.ribosomemusic.com > _______________________________________________ > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group > NewMusic at music.mills.edu > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic > From hannah at cypressquartet.com Tue Mar 31 11:53:29 2009 From: hannah at cypressquartet.com (Hannah Neff) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:53:29 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] FREE Composer Forum- Kevin Puts Message-ID: <702B6FDE-1D5D-4F74-B7FB-6DBC0BB93E10@cypressquartet.com> John Clare's Composing Thoughts LIVE - Kevin Puts An in-depth discussion with Kevin Puts about composing and his latest work, Lento Assai. Lead by radio announcer and classical music aficionado John Clare, this interview-style event will include a live performance by the Cypress String Quartet as well as the opportunity for questions directly from audience members. FREE! Thursday, April 2, 6 - 7.30pm Mechanics? Institute, 57 Post Street, San Francisco http://www.cypressquartet.com/educators/CallandResponseActivities.html From hannah at cypressquartet.com Tue Mar 31 11:53:45 2009 From: hannah at cypressquartet.com (Hannah Neff) Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:53:45 -0700 Subject: [NewMusic] Kevin Puts, Lento Assai - Bay Area Premiere Message-ID: <1E0FF2F5-DF08-4298-A300-0C6E9FA42546@cypressquartet.com> Call & Response - Cypress String Quartet Mendelssohn Bicentennial Celebration Mendelssohn, String Quartet in A Minor, Op. 13 Kevin Puts, Lento Assai (2009) Beethoven, String Quartet in F Major, Op. 135 Friday, April 3 at 8pm Herbst Theatre, War Memorial Building 401 Van Ness Avenue at McAllister Street Tickets from $7-$25 (+ ticket fee) City Box Office, 180 Redwood Street, Suite 100, San Francisco Tel: 415-392-4400 www.cityboxoffice.com http://www.cityboxoffice.com/eventperformances.asp?evt=1347&c=9&pg=2 http://www.cypressquartet.com/educators/CallandResponseConcert.html