From gino at rastascan.com  Wed Sep  2 14:36:16 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:36:16 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Be a part of the world's largest group of guitarists...
Message-ID: <C6C43360.2BCB%gino@rastascan.com>

Playing Purple Haze:
http://www.steveroby.com/Jimi_Hendrix_Archives/Register.html

Or just let your guitar feed back and annoy everyone around you...


From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 13:41:40 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:41:40 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Music stand available
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909031341l66ef8a87g8a920ea7c66a7334@mail.gmail.com>

I have a music stand at work to give away. It's a big black one, with
collapsible legs but not a collapsible head. Anyone want it? I can
bring it to the Luggage Store tonight.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From gino at rastascan.com  Thu Sep  3 14:24:51 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:24:51 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Hawkwind documentary
Message-ID: <C6C58233.2CC3%gino@rastascan.com>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw_rvrXQiQ

With many cameos, including Lemmy of Motorhead (talking about his
involvement with the band).


From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Thu Sep  3 21:04:37 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 21:04:37 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Needed: Volunteers for San Francisco Electronic Music
	Festival
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909032104ta89756bh7200ed91c355a842@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

I'm looking for volunteers for this year's San Francisco Electronic
Music Festival (http://www.sfemf.org/sfemf2009.html). The festival
will be at the Brava Theatre, located at 24th St and York in SF. For
each night you help us out (or ride provided), we'll give you a free
ticket for a different night of the festival. If you're interested,
I'll need your cell phone number.

What we need:
--Ushers: Hand out programs, make sure people don't enter auditorium
before it's ready, keep people from bringing drinks into auditorium,
possibly guide people in quietly if show is in progress. Roughly
6:30pm to 10pm
--Concessions: Sell food and drinks, card people who look cardable.
Roughly 7pm to 10:30pm
--Rides: Give an artist a ride between the venue and hotel. We'll give
a free show ticket for each ride provided.
--Post-Show Load out Help: Assist with packing and loading out sound
equipment after show on Saturday night. We're expected to be out of
the venue by Midnight.

Wednesday, 9/16
Performers: Miya Masaoka, Lukas Ligeti, Amy X Neuburg
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Thursday, 9/17
Performers: Maria Chavez, Donald Swearingen, Mark Trayle, Mason Bates
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Friday, 9/18
Performers: Ed Osbourn, Frank Bretschneider, Preshish Moments, Joan La Barbara
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Saturday, 9/19
Performers: [ruidobello], Gino Robair, Pamela Z
Needed: Ushers, Concessions, Post-Show Load Out


Rides needed for performers:
--Thurs 9.17.09 1:30 PM: Take artist + gear from Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)
to Brava Theater (2781 24th St.) for Sound Check

--Fri 9.18.09 2:00 PM  Take artist from Brava Theater (2781 24th St.)
to Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Thu Sep  3 22:55:30 2009
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 22:55:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Needed: Volunteers for San Francisco Electronic
	Music Festival
Message-ID: <371386.70768.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I can do one of those nights...let me hear back about a rehearsal and i'll confirm tomorrow.

pg

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for volunteers for this year's San Francisco Electronic
Music Festival (http://www.sfemf.org/sfemf2009.html). The festival
will be at the Brava Theatre, located at 24th St and York in SF. For
each night you help us out (or ride provided), we'll give you a free
ticket for a different night of the festival. If you're interested,
I'll need your cell phone number.

What we need:
--Ushers: Hand out programs, make sure people don't enter auditorium
before it's ready, keep people from bringing drinks into auditorium,
possibly guide people in quietly if show is in progress. Roughly
6:30pm to 10pm
--Concessions: Sell food and drinks, card people who look cardable.
Roughly 7pm to 10:30pm
--Rides: Give an artist a ride between the venue and hotel. We'll give
a free show ticket for each ride provided.
--Post-Show Load out Help: Assist with packing and loading out sound
equipment after show on Saturday night. We're expected to be out of
the venue by Midnight.

Wednesday, 9/16
Performers: Miya Masaoka, Lukas Ligeti, Amy X Neuburg
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Thursday, 9/17
Performers: Maria Chavez, Donald Swearingen, Mark Trayle, Mason Bates
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Friday, 9/18
Performers: Ed Osbourn, Frank Bretschneider, Preshish Moments, Joan La Barbara
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Saturday, 9/19
Performers: [ruidobello], Gino Robair, Pamela Z
Needed: Ushers, Concessions, Post-Show Load Out


Rides needed for performers:
--Thurs 9.17.09 1:30 PM: Take artist + gear from Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)
to Brava Theater (2781 24th St.) for Sound Check

--Fri 9.18.09 2:00 PM  Take artist from Brava Theater (2781 24th St.)
to Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Sat Sep  5 16:37:43 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2009 16:37:43 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Here's Hugh
Message-ID: <98e30a870909051637h5e4d693fvb2a0511fede728ea@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/09/05/DDE919HGDI.DTL&type=music

-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus

From electric.tokyo at gmail.com  Mon Sep  7 13:25:13 2009
From: electric.tokyo at gmail.com (Travis Johns)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 13:25:13 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] ::New Sounds frm th Personal Imprint::
Message-ID: <d3165c060909071325y38c49efbx777978301c46446d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

A heads up on two new-ish releases from the Thinktank Collective,
otherwise known as that quasi-underground pseudo-label run by yours
truly and a handful of cohorts, etc.

Disc the First:

Satellite - 001: lowercase prepared-instrument electroacoustic
improvisation courtesy of Liz Meredith (viola), Steini Gunnarsson
(guitar) and Travis Johns (bass). Originally recorded in April 2006
and released in extremely limited batches until now. currently
available in a hand-assembled run of 25, featuring embossed packaging
and a 2-track 3 inch cd-r ep. sounds/info/etc. =
http://think-tankmedia.net/satellite/releases/001.html

(also available is Satellite's second release, the full-length
Sylvedic - info =
http://think-tankmedia.net/satellite/releases/sylvedic.html)

Disc the Second:

vsls - Songs of Mountains and Wetlands: neodigital tone-poems for the
Bruckheimer generation. Just-intoned songs for digital synths and
analog electronics, overflowing with explosions, shattering glass and
last-minute helicopter rescues fit to appease both the heaviest action
junkie and conservatory purist alike - or at least thats the premise
behind the concept, or something to that extent. - More sensationalist
ranting = http://think-tankmedia.net/vsls/releases/wetlands.html

both are $7 via paypal with operators standing by to assist. also, as
per our current economic slump, trades for other music, shiny rocks,
interesting succulents, broken (or not so broken) guitar pedals and
other sparkling baubles/trinkets are encouraged and appreciated. Got
something? Hit me up off list.

best,

t.

From td at pixar.com  Mon Sep  7 19:59:11 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 19:59:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Hawkwind documentary
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909071950390.27450@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>


Gino writes:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRw_rvrXQiQ

Thanks.  I wasted a good part of my holiday Monday on this.

Really, I loved it.  Somewhere in storage I have a big pile of Hawkwind
vinyl.  The whole thing gave me slow-motion crash-test feeling, with
gigabytes of tape-echo filter sweeps.

-- 
Tom Duff.  A mistake carried out to perfection.

From td at pixar.com  Mon Sep  7 21:57:03 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 21:57:03 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Pink Mountain in Signal to Noise
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909072152470.29760@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>


There's a feature (not yet read by me) on Pink Mountain in The new Signal
to Noise, which officially hits the street on Sep 12, but is in fact
available right now on the newsstand at Pegasus in Berkeley.

-- 
Tom Duff.  Scientists drive ugly station wagons or vans, their ears are
very big.

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 01:09:31 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 01:09:31 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Great free download
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909080109s5d8bf25bg5d372fa42a2a476c@mail.gmail.com>

I liked this album when it first came out. Just listened to it for the
first time in several years, and it still blows me away. I thought it
was out of print, but here it is as a free download:

http://detritus.net/wobbly/mp3s/KIB1314/

It's "Known in Bakersfield", a project between Wobbly and Tim Meany.
This cd is a lot heavier on weird keyboard sounds and tape experiments
than sampley stuff.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  8 11:18:36 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:18:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] inconstant sol
Message-ID: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

I"m not sure if this has been posted be for.?Inconstant Sol?is a blog that has links?to some?great concerts.??http://inconstantsol.blogspot.com/?
?Jon Raskin 

From r8string at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 11:23:15 2009
From: r8string at gmail.com (Ron Thompson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:23:15 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] inconstant sol
In-Reply-To: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <92232ec80909081123x54c76fdnce7e2b9a5d4c6ceb@mail.gmail.com>

There's actually a few others that are also good but not as "creative music
specific"

Dr. Fusion is good for Mahavishnu Orchestra, Shakti and other John
McLaughlin bootleg concerts
Another called The Prog Rock Blog has some good video on it.  They have a
film of a concert the mahavishnu orchestra did in 1972 with Ravi Shankar
opening up for them.  No production values just screaming good music.

Ron

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:18 AM, Jon Raskin <jon_raskin at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I"m not sure if this has been posted be for. Inconstant Sol is a blog that
> has links to some great concerts.  http://inconstantsol.blogspot.com/
>  Jon Raskin
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From wobbly at detritus.net  Tue Sep  8 11:47:21 2009
From: wobbly at detritus.net (wobbly at detritus.net)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 11:47:21 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] inconstant sol
In-Reply-To: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <8683a73277d0bfe2a31d24bdfffac8b4.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>

> I"m not sure if this has been posted be for.?Inconstant Sol?is a blog that
> has links?to some?great concerts.??http://inconstantsol.blogspot.com/?
> ?Jon Raskin

Yes this blog is amazing

Search the 2 May 2008 performance of Gerard Grisey's 'Les Espaces
Acoustiques' w/ Stefan Asbury / Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen
Rundfunks&#8232;

Absolutely blows away Asbury's recording on Kairos (blue cover), and is
almost competitive with the Ensemble Court-Circuit one on Accord (rainbow
spectrum cover)

Also search the early 70's Don Cherry + Terry Riley concerts

-jl



From r8string at gmail.com  Tue Sep  8 13:11:54 2009
From: r8string at gmail.com (Ron Thompson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 13:11:54 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] inconstant sol
In-Reply-To: <8683a73277d0bfe2a31d24bdfffac8b4.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
References: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<8683a73277d0bfe2a31d24bdfffac8b4.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
Message-ID: <92232ec80909081311o181f5930xd921bff5fd63d5f0@mail.gmail.com>

There's one more site called mohaoffbeat
http://mohaoffbeat.blogspot.com/

for you sax players or Warne Marsh fanatics, this is a good site.  He's
probably posted 40 rare recordings of Warne Marsh.  Recently, he's been
posting alot of Rob McConnell and the Boss Brass, so you might have to dig a
bit in the older posts, but for fans of Warne Marsh, this is a gold mine.

ron
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:47 AM, <wobbly at detritus.net> wrote:

> > I"m not sure if this has been posted be for. Inconstant Sol is a blog
> that
> > has links to some great concerts.  http://inconstantsol.blogspot.com/
> >  Jon Raskin
>
> Yes this blog is amazing
>
> Search the 2 May 2008 performance of Gerard Grisey's 'Les Espaces
> Acoustiques' w/ Stefan Asbury / Symphonieorchester des Bayerischen
> Rundfunks&#8232;
>
> Absolutely blows away Asbury's recording on Kairos (blue cover), and is
> almost competitive with the Ensemble Court-Circuit one on Accord (rainbow
> spectrum cover)
>
> Also search the early 70's Don Cherry + Terry Riley concerts
>
> -jl
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From mcmahon at ibiblio.org  Wed Sep  9 11:13:48 2009
From: mcmahon at ibiblio.org (Joe McMahon)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:13:48 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] New release: "Gamelan Collider"
Message-ID: <76df99600909091113l29c07676gbacecdc2071ce70a@mail.gmail.com>

I've just released a new album on NTNS Records - it's a recording of a
40-minute improv using Forester and a large set of samples from the
Museum Nusantara gamelan. Very abstract and hypnotic with bursts of
old-school pure electronic sound. Hope you enjoy it! Comments very
welcome.

For those of ou who don't know it, Forester is a Max patch from
Leafcutter John that provides a GUI to do real-time granularization of
samples by dragging the cursor around in a 2-D area; the samples are
represented by overlapping circles within this area. You can either
manually move the cursor or allow it to "wander" through the field.
This improv uses a bit of both.

http://justnotnormal.wordpress.com/2009/09/07/jnn051-joe-mcmahon-gamelan-collider/

 --- Joe M.

From highhorse at mhorse.com  Wed Sep  9 20:26:36 2009
From: highhorse at mhorse.com (Daryl Shawn)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 2009 23:26:36 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] High Zero
In-Reply-To: <76df99600909091113l29c07676gbacecdc2071ce70a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <76df99600909091113l29c07676gbacecdc2071ce70a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AA871EC.8000707@mhorse.com>

Anyone here going to be at High Zero in Baltimore this weekend? I'll be 
audiencing there saturday & sunday.

Daryl Shawn
www.swanwelder.com

From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Fri Sep 11 09:46:54 2009
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:46:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Possible gig: DJs in the house?
Message-ID: <757438.69677.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

hi,

a friend of a friend of mine is looking for a DJ for a party to play good dance music. i realize this isn't a new music item, but was desperate so i thought i'd give a shout here.

this could be a good paying gig. i don't know what they're offering, but i know they have a lot of money (don't you just wish these folks would suddenly  
decide they need skronky improv at their events?).

email me off list if you can help me out and i will connect you or the DJ with the party in question.

pg
pgsaxo at pacbell.net
510-501-7110


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 3, 2009, at 9:04 PM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi all,

I'm looking for volunteers for this year's San Francisco Electronic
Music Festival (http://www.sfemf.org/sfemf2009.html). The festival
will be at the Brava Theatre, located at 24th St and York in SF. For
each night you help us out (or ride provided), we'll give you a free
ticket for a different night of the festival. If you're interested,
I'll need your cell phone number.

What we need:
--Ushers: Hand out programs, make sure people don't enter auditorium
before it's ready, keep people from bringing drinks into auditorium,
possibly guide people in quietly if show is in progress. Roughly
6:30pm to 10pm
--Concessions: Sell food and drinks, card people who look cardable.
Roughly 7pm to 10:30pm
--Rides: Give an artist a ride between the venue and hotel. We'll give
a free show ticket for each ride provided.
--Post-Show Load out Help: Assist with packing and loading out sound
equipment after show on Saturday night. We're expected to be out of
the venue by Midnight.

Wednesday, 9/16
Performers: Miya Masaoka, Lukas Ligeti, Amy X Neuburg
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Thursday, 9/17
Performers: Maria Chavez, Donald Swearingen, Mark Trayle, Mason Bates
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Friday, 9/18
Performers: Ed Osbourn, Frank Bretschneider, Preshish Moments, Joan La Barbara
Needed: Ushers, Concessions

Saturday, 9/19
Performers: [ruidobello], Gino Robair, Pamela Z
Needed: Ushers, Concessions, Post-Show Load Out


Rides needed for performers:
--Thurs 9.17.09 1:30 PM: Take artist + gear from Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)
to Brava Theater (2781 24th St.) for Sound Check

--Fri 9.18.09 2:00 PM  Take artist from Brava Theater (2781 24th St.)
to Good Hotel (112 7th St, SF)

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From td at pixar.com  Fri Sep 11 09:54:14 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:54:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Drum buddy
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909110948540.6654@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>


Beautiful, insane electro-mechanical synthesis dingus made out of a couple
of cheap record players, some photodetectors, a spinning coffee can with
an incandescent light bulb (with dimmer) inside & cheezy hex-inverter
oscillators:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtssL8WlJA

Good stuff starting at about 3:50, but the opening pantomime explains the
idea really well.

-- 
Tom Duff.  Mrs. Peacock with a pipe in the hall.

From pete at creepsville.com  Fri Sep 11 10:03:04 2009
From: pete at creepsville.com (Pete von Petrin)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:03:04 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Possible gig: DJs in the house?
In-Reply-To: <757438.69677.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <757438.69677.qm@web81406.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4AAA82C8.3010206@creepsville.com>

"good dance music" can cover quite a bit. but if they're looking for 
80's dance with a sense of humor, I know a great DJ.:
http://www.facebook.com/misterfong

Also, a more general but very "hip" awesome DJ:
http://www.facebook.com/tophone

(if you don't have a facebook account and either of these sound good, I 
will be happy to forward info to them)

- Pete



Phillip Greenlief wrote:
> hi,
> 
> a friend of a friend of mine is looking for a DJ for a party to play good dance music. i realize this isn't a new music item, but was desperate so i thought i'd give a shout here.
> 
> this could be a good paying gig. i don't know what they're offering, but i know they have a lot of money (don't you just wish these folks would suddenly  
> decide they need skronky improv at their events?).
> 
> email me off list if you can help me out and i will connect you or the DJ with the party in question.
> 
> pg
> pgsaxo at pacbell.net
> 510-501-7110
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>

From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Fri Sep 11 10:12:42 2009
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:12:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Possible gig: DJs in the house?
Message-ID: <453356.49806.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

could you please forward to them? i have no idea what vibe they are looking for...

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2009, at 10:03 AM, Pete von Petrin <pete at creepsville.com> wrote:

"good dance music" can cover quite a bit. but if they're looking for 
80's dance with a sense of humor, I know a great DJ.:
http://www.facebook.com/misterfong

Also, a more general but very "hip" awesome DJ:
http://www.facebook.com/tophone

(if you don't have a facebook account and either of these sound good, I 
will be happy to forward info to them)

- Pete



Phillip Greenlief wrote:
hi,

a friend of a friend of mine is looking for a DJ for a party to play good dance music. i realize this isn't a new music item, but was desperate so i thought i'd give a shout here.

this could be a good paying gig. i don't know what they're offering, but i know they have a lot of money (don't you just wish these folks would suddenly  
decide they need skronky improv at their events?).

email me off list if you can help me out and i will connect you or the DJ with the party in question.

pg
pgsaxo at pacbell.net
510-501-7110


Sent from my iPhone


_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From miltnerunit at gmail.com  Fri Sep 11 10:28:12 2009
From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (Kristin Miltner)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:28:12 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Drum buddy
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909110948540.6654@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909110948540.6654@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
Message-ID: <ef1ad92c0909111028g1e2b8fd5m9a8d9509eaa53bd6@mail.gmail.com>

AWESOME.

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:54 AM, Tom Duff <td at pixar.com> wrote:

>
> Beautiful, insane electro-mechanical synthesis dingus made out of a couple
> of cheap record players, some photodetectors, a spinning coffee can with
> an incandescent light bulb (with dimmer) inside & cheezy hex-inverter
> oscillators:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvtssL8WlJA
>
> Good stuff starting at about 3:50, but the opening pantomime explains the
> idea really well.
>
> --
> Tom Duff.  Mrs. Peacock with a pipe in the hall.
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
kristin miltner
audio professional
www.kristinmiltner.net
www.myspace.com/miltnerunit
http://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinmiltner
http://www.praemedia.com/consumerproducts.html

From itzat at earthlink.net  Sun Sep 13 08:39:07 2009
From: itzat at earthlink.net (Ernesto Diaz-Infante)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 08:39:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Brooklyn Mantra
Message-ID: <5C6A2AD2-B1DA-482D-BA92-C48B5AF264D2@earthlink.net>

hi Everybody,
hope you're all doing well..
Got some copies of my new 7' record 'Brooklyn Mantra'.
Any reviewers or radio folks want a copy? anyone want to buy a copy?
Send me an email . . .Thanks! Ernesto
http://www.generaterecords.net/catalog0305.htm
http://www.myspace.com/diazinfante




From ie at allwaysnorth.com  Sun Sep 13 10:14:53 2009
From: ie at allwaysnorth.com (Cheryl Leonard)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 10:14:53 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] recycled paper cd cases
Message-ID: <DF516B91-F01E-4675-AE8C-75E0D29D3EE4@allwaysnorth.com>

Does anyone know where I can buy blank (with nothing printed on them)  
recycled paper cd cases or cardboard sleeves?

Thanks,
Cheryl


From pgsaxo at pacbell.net  Sun Sep 13 12:36:51 2009
From: pgsaxo at pacbell.net (Phillip Greenlief)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 12:36:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] recycled paper cd cases
Message-ID: <225141.44436.qm@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

i worked with a company that specialized in that sort of thingback in the early 90's...not sure if they're still in business. gino used them too for his release with miya...i'll dig around and see if i can find their info...

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 13, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Cheryl Leonard <ie at allwaysnorth.com> wrote:

Does anyone know where I can buy blank (with nothing printed on them)  
recycled paper cd cases or cardboard sleeves?

Thanks,
Cheryl

_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From matthew at matthewgoodheart.com  Sun Sep 13 14:14:18 2009
From: matthew at matthewgoodheart.com (Matthew Goodheart)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:14:18 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] recycled paper cd cases
In-Reply-To: <DF516B91-F01E-4675-AE8C-75E0D29D3EE4@allwaysnorth.com>
References: <DF516B91-F01E-4675-AE8C-75E0D29D3EE4@allwaysnorth.com>
Message-ID: <B40DFB7C-D299-4F5B-8657-CE2EE4F3815C@matthewgoodheart.com>

These folks might sell blanks as well, but I'm not sure:

http://sirepress.com/


mg


On Sep 13, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Cheryl Leonard wrote:

> Does anyone know where I can buy blank (with nothing printed on them)
> recycled paper cd cases or cardboard sleeves?
>
> Thanks,
> Cheryl
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

Matthew Goodheart
composer ~ improviser ~ pianist
matthew at matthewgoodheart.com
http://matthewgoodheart.com
http://myspace.com/matthewgoodheart





From walters at doubtfulpalace.com  Sun Sep 13 16:16:16 2009
From: walters at doubtfulpalace.com (Tim Walters)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 16:16:16 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] recycled paper cd cases
In-Reply-To: <B40DFB7C-D299-4F5B-8657-CE2EE4F3815C@matthewgoodheart.com>
References: <DF516B91-F01E-4675-AE8C-75E0D29D3EE4@allwaysnorth.com>
	<B40DFB7C-D299-4F5B-8657-CE2EE4F3815C@matthewgoodheart.com>
Message-ID: <4AAD7D40.1040306@doubtfulpalace.com>

Here's one seller:

http://tinyurl.com/ngheop

-- 

Tim Walters | The Doubtful Palace | http://doubtfulpalace.com

From djll at sonic.net  Sun Sep 13 22:24:48 2009
From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:24:48 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] score for sale
Message-ID: <E1FDA4BC-8738-468A-9818-04EBE545EB0D@sonic.net>

Hey skin beaters!

I have an old score of Stockhausen's ZYKLUS. Spiral-bound, from  
Stockhausen's old publisher, in good-very good condition.

First $45 gets it, postage paid.

td

Tom Djll
227 Otis St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(831) 429-8072  home
(831) 423-3050 office
(831) 320-1489 cell
djll at sonic.net
tom at mythmaker.com
www.mythmaker.com

Music, calendar, & bio:
http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll

More music w/sound snippets:
http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer

Photography:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/





From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 00:20:13 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:20:13 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Needed: Volunteers for San Francisco Electronic
	Music Festival
In-Reply-To: <371386.70768.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <371386.70768.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909140020n17cf59h47c922892fbe9e2e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Phillip,

I haven't heard back from you, are you available one of those nights?
(Sept 16 through 19)


On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote:
> I can do one of those nights...let me hear back about a rehearsal and i'll confirm tomorrow.
>
> pg
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 00:29:53 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:29:53 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Needed: Volunteers for San Francisco Electronic
	Music Festival
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909140020n17cf59h47c922892fbe9e2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <371386.70768.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909140020n17cf59h47c922892fbe9e2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909140029xc8949d7p1c18674bbe43ddc9@mail.gmail.com>

oops, Hi to everyone as well.

I still need volunteers. I just found out that the space requires 2
more people each night than I've been planning. Let me know if you're
interested. The festival runs Wednesday to Saturday this week, and I
need folks (mostly ticket takers and ushers) from 6:30pm to 10 each
night.

Matt

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 12:20 AM, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Phillip,
>
> I haven't heard back from you, are you available one of those nights?
> (Sept 16 through 19)
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Phillip Greenlief <pgsaxo at pacbell.net> wrote:
>> I can do one of those nights...let me hear back about a rehearsal and i'll confirm tomorrow.
>>
>> pg
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>



-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Mon Sep 14 08:53:25 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:53:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] new definition of music
Message-ID: <899071.5469.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

Here is a new definition of MUSIC the health company Corventis.  Not sure how they will copyright it.

"MUSIC (Multi-Sensor Monitoring in Congestive Heart Failure) program,"
 Jon Raskin

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Mon Sep 14 10:49:51 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:49:51 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] new definition of music
In-Reply-To: <899071.5469.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <899071.5469.qm@web55604.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909141049i33acf8ddv377d5dad7622c562@mail.gmail.com>

This must be related to my autopsy of the heart solo piece somehow?
P.

On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Jon Raskin <jon_raskin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here is a new definition of MUSIC the health company Corventis. ?Not sure how they will copyright it.
>
> "MUSIC (Multi-Sensor Monitoring in Congestive Heart Failure) program,"
> ?Jon Raskin
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 07:40:17 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 07:40:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Gino interview
Message-ID: <870895.59098.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>

?Same article in two locations.
?
Let's ask Gino Robair
Sequenza21 - New York,New York,USA
He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone ...
 
?
Let's ask Gino Robair - Used Steinway pianos, Steinway grand piano ...
By Polly Moller 
He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone Quartet, and Eugene Chadbourne, among many others. He is a founding member of the ...
Used Steinway pianos, Steinway... - http://swpiano.com/  
?Jon Raskin 

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 10:13:25 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 10:13:25 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Gino interview
In-Reply-To: <870895.59098.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
References: <870895.59098.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909151013p32c38d9ew902cbdd66ce600de@mail.gmail.com>

Ha!  My article's been spam-ogrified!!!
P.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Jon Raskin <jon_raskin at yahoo.com> wrote:
> ?Same article in two locations.
>
> Let's ask Gino Robair
> Sequenza21 - New York,New York,USA
> He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone ...
>
>
> Let's ask Gino Robair - Used Steinway pianos, Steinway grand piano ...
> By Polly Moller
> He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone Quartet, and Eugene Chadbourne, among many others. He is a founding member of the ...
> Used Steinway pianos, Steinway... - http://swpiano.com/
> ?Jon Raskin
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From polly.moller at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 14:23:16 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:23:16 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Gino interview
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40909151013p32c38d9ew902cbdd66ce600de@mail.gmail.com>
References: <870895.59098.qm@web55608.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<2eb068d40909151013p32c38d9ew902cbdd66ce600de@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909151423q694691dfld4d671d728cf0eb8@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for the heads-up, actually, Jon.  They are reprinting without
permission, and our
publisher is going to tell them to knock that off.
P.

On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Polly Moller <polly.moller at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ha! ?My article's been spam-ogrified!!!
> P.
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 7:40 AM, Jon Raskin <jon_raskin at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> ?Same article in two locations.
>>
>> Let's ask Gino Robair
>> Sequenza21 - New York,New York,USA
>> He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone ...
>>
>>
>> Let's ask Gino Robair - Used Steinway pianos, Steinway grand piano ...
>> By Polly Moller
>> He has recorded with Tom Waits, Anthony Braxton, Terry Riley, Lou Harrison, John Butcher, Derek Bailey, Peter Kowald, Otomo Yoshihide, the ROVA Saxophone Quartet, and Eugene Chadbourne, among many others. He is a founding member of the ...
>> Used Steinway pianos, Steinway... - http://swpiano.com/
>> ?Jon Raskin
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
>
>
>
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> ------------------------------------------------------
>



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From slusser at pixar.com  Tue Sep 15 15:17:24 2009
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:17:24 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] New Improved Recording Live
In-Reply-To: <92232ec80909081311o181f5930xd921bff5fd63d5f0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <675903.48450.qm@web55607.mail.re4.yahoo.com>
	<8683a73277d0bfe2a31d24bdfffac8b4.squirrel@webmail.detritus.net>
	<92232ec80909081311o181f5930xd921bff5fd63d5f0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2C39EB7F-72BE-4004-949A-A40A0DD1C1EB@pixar.com>

I wandered around trying to get in last night.

Can they make entry procedure more transparent?

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 15 16:04:29 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:04:29 +0000
Subject: [NewMusic] New Improved Recording Live
Message-ID: <1456996431-1253055827-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-683913948-@bda298.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

The link was at sfsound.org in the sfsound radio page.  The next broadcast will be more specific.

------Original Message------
From: David Slusser
Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: [NewMusic] New Improved Recording Live
Sent: Sep 15, 2009 3:17 PM

I wandered around trying to get in last night.

Can they make entry procedure more transparent?
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Tue Sep 15 18:02:05 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:02:05 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909151802y4f4afe3epf1fac79efb887377@mail.gmail.com>

Matt want:

http://www.korg.com/microsampler

No word on a price yet.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From michaelz at zoka.com  Wed Sep 16 09:55:58 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 12:55:58 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909151802y4f4afe3epf1fac79efb887377@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c70e517b0909151802y4f4afe3epf1fac79efb887377@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p06240803c6d6c8ee1ee1@[192.168.1.2]>

On 9/15/09, Matt Davignon wrote:

>Matt want:
>
>http://www.korg.com/microsampler
>
>No word on a price yet.


 From geek.com:

>Pretty neat, but the price is staggering: $750. Sure, the Korg 
>microSAMPLER is cute, but it is largely aimed at musicians wanting 
>to dink around creatively on their iPhone, and even for them, $750 
>is likely too expensive to be worth the investment.

<http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/compose-music-on-your-iphone-with-the-korg-microsampler-20090916/>

MZ



From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 10:08:18 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:08:18 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <p06240803c6d6c8ee1ee1@192.168.1.2>
References: <c70e517b0909151802y4f4afe3epf1fac79efb887377@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240803c6d6c8ee1ee1@192.168.1.2>
Message-ID: <98e30a870909161008l55fe1f97if2ef435491afb0aa@mail.gmail.com>

I saw some prices quoted as $525 as the regular selling price....
I want one too

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Zelner <michaelz at zoka.com> wrote:

> On 9/15/09, Matt Davignon wrote:
>
> >Matt want:
> >
> >http://www.korg.com/microsampler
> >
> >No word on a price yet.
>
>
>  From geek.com:
>
> >Pretty neat, but the price is staggering: $750. Sure, the Korg
> >microSAMPLER is cute, but it is largely aimed at musicians wanting
> >to dink around creatively on their iPhone, and even for them, $750
> >is likely too expensive to be worth the investment.
>
> <
> http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/compose-music-on-your-iphone-with-the-korg-microsampler-20090916/
> >
>
> MZ
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 10:16:52 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:16:52 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <p06240803c6d6c8ee1ee1@192.168.1.2>
References: <c70e517b0909151802y4f4afe3epf1fac79efb887377@mail.gmail.com>
	<p06240803c6d6c8ee1ee1@192.168.1.2>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909161016j182c0207qecdf646e2f59cc33@mail.gmail.com>

I found the $750 MSRP in a few places last night too. I expect it will come
down to the $550 range within a year or two. The MicroKorg XL has an MSRP of
$750, but you can get one on Amazon for $500.

Still, it's a hardware keyboard sampler that costs less than 2k. I'll
probably get one next year, but will likely sell some stuff to afford it.

No pitch wheel - that may be an issue. The demo video is pretty funny. They
seem to assume that everyone wants a keyboard sampler to make hip-hop
rhythms.

I think it'd make a great live improv tool for us non-laptop people.

Matt

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Zelner <michaelz at zoka.com> wrote:

> On 9/15/09, Matt Davignon wrote:
>
> >Matt want:
> >
> >http://www.korg.com/microsampler
> >
> >No word on a price yet.
>
>
>  From geek.com:
>
> >Pretty neat, but the price is staggering: $750. Sure, the Korg
> >microSAMPLER is cute, but it is largely aimed at musicians wanting
> >to dink around creatively on their iPhone, and even for them, $750
> >is likely too expensive to be worth the investment.
>
> <
> http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/compose-music-on-your-iphone-with-the-korg-microsampler-20090916/
> >
>
> MZ
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From praemedia at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 10:50:06 2009
From: praemedia at yahoo.com (Praemedia)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 10:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909161016j182c0207qecdf646e2f59cc33@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Despite what I'm seeing from the korg site, everywhere else is reporting it as a fancy iphone toy rather than something like the other microkorgs, (kind of like the review zelner shared). Weird that the korg site barely speaks about its iphone stuff...

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:16 AM
> I found the $750 MSRP in a few places
> last night too. I expect it will come
> down to the $550 range within a year or two. The MicroKorg
> XL has an MSRP of
> $750, but you can get one on Amazon for $500.
> 
> Still, it's a hardware keyboard sampler that costs less
> than 2k. I'll
> probably get one next year, but will likely sell some stuff
> to afford it.
> 
> No pitch wheel - that may be an issue. The demo video is
> pretty funny. They
> seem to assume that everyone wants a keyboard sampler to
> make hip-hop
> rhythms.
> 
> I think it'd make a great live improv tool for us
> non-laptop people.
> 
> Matt
> 
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Zelner <michaelz at zoka.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On 9/15/09, Matt Davignon wrote:
> >
> > >Matt want:
> > >
> > >http://www.korg.com/microsampler
> > >
> > >No word on a price yet.
> >
> >
> >? From geek.com:
> >
> > >Pretty neat, but the price is staggering: $750.
> Sure, the Korg
> > >microSAMPLER is cute, but it is largely aimed at
> musicians wanting
> > >to dink around creatively on their iPhone, and
> even for them, $750
> > >is likely too expensive to be worth the
> investment.
> >
> > <
> > http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/compose-music-on-your-iphone-with-the-korg-microsampler-20090916/
> > >
> >
> > MZ
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> 


      

From miltnerunit at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 11:30:04 2009
From: miltnerunit at gmail.com (Kristin Miltner)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:30:04 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] anyone got an adjustable bench or adjustable stool to
	let SFEMF borrow for an evening? Tonight?
Message-ID: <ef1ad92c0909161130p412e7089i6d735a50863e191d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi list. Pretty late notice -- one of those things that fell off my to-do
list -- whoever brings it will have to get it to Brava theatre by 7pm -ish
tonight. It's for Lukas Ligeti -- so if you want to see him, Miya Masoaka
and Amy X Neuburg for free, we'll put you on the guest list in exchange for
the adjustable bench -- or we can comp you on a different night, your
choice.

Thank you, if you can help!

k



-- 
kristin miltner
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From pamelaz at pamelaz.com  Wed Sep 16 11:41:38 2009
From: pamelaz at pamelaz.com (Pamela Z)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 11:41:38 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Loan of Adjustable Drum thrown or piano bench needed
	tonight
In-Reply-To: <76df99600909091113l29c07676gbacecdc2071ce70a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <76df99600909091113l29c07676gbacecdc2071ce70a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <653922ED-C450-4A5C-9C8A-6D8D6C99F294@pamelaz.com>

Does anyone on this list have an adjustable stool or seat that we can  
use at SFEMF tonight for Lukas Ligeti?  If so, we could offer you a  
pair of comps in exchange for the loan.  Please email Kristin Miltner miltnerunit at gmail.com 
  directly if you can help.

Thanks,

PZ


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From letucepry at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 14:20:14 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 14:20:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age, and for $750 BUCKS??With No Flash Memory SLOT????Even the Stomp box samplers have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly rare now.




________________________________
From: Praemedia <praemedia at yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 10:50:06 AM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler

Despite what I'm seeing from the korg site, everywhere else is reporting it as a fancy iphone toy rather than something like the other microkorgs, (kind of like the review zelner shared). Weird that the korg site barely speaks about its iphone stuff...

--- On Wed, 9/16/09, Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
> To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:16 AM
> I found the $750 MSRP in a few places
> last night too. I expect it will come
> down to the $550 range within a year or two. The MicroKorg
> XL has an MSRP of
> $750, but you can get one on Amazon for $500.
>
> Still, it's a hardware keyboard sampler that costs less
> than 2k. I'll
> probably get one next year, but will likely sell some stuff
> to afford it.
>
> No pitch wheel - that may be an issue. The demo video is
> pretty funny. They
> seem to assume that everyone wants a keyboard sampler to
> make hip-hop
> rhythms.
>
> I think it'd make a great live improv tool for us
> non-laptop people.
>
> Matt
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 9:55 AM, Michael Zelner <michaelz at zoka.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On 9/15/09, Matt Davignon wrote:
> >
> > >Matt want:
> > >
> > >http://www.korg.com/microsampler
> > >
> > >No word on a price yet.
> >
> >
> >? >From geek.com:
> >
> > >Pretty neat, but the price is staggering: $750.
> Sure, the Korg
> > >microSAMPLER is cute, but it is largely aimed at
> musicians wanting
> > >to dink around creatively on their iPhone, and
> even for them, $750
> > >is likely too expensive to be worth the
> investment.
> >
> > <
> > http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/compose-music-on-your-iphone-with-the-korg-microsampler-20090916/
> > >
> >
> > MZ
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 15:57:34 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 15:57:34 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>

128mb sucks.

Is it better than the two 50 pound keyboard samplers I have at home that
both offer 4mb of storage? Yes.

The way they sell it is that you'd store any extra samples on your
desktop/laptop computer via USB connection.

There are a few places where it misses the mark. The lack of a pitch wheel
is a slap on the forehead thing for me. The promotional video is actually
pretty funny. It's as if the marketing department couldn't figure out why
someone would ever use a keyboard sampler. So instead, they tell you how to
use it like an Alesis MPC.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing
> only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age, and
> for $750 BUCKS? With No Flash Memory SLOT??? Even the Stomp box samplers
> have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly rare
> now.
>
>
>

From letucepry at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 16:22:05 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:22:05 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

If you have to drag your laptop around with you, there really isn't a point to buying this, as there are numerous samplers for computers which can beat the pants off that thing for less than $500 including the $150 midicontroller of your choice.

Sorry to rain on your parade Matt, but I'm just really disappointed in the progress that hardware synths have made in the last 10 years. The 90's were at least 50x better from a progress standpoint (meaning the synth that I bought in 1999 to replace the synth I bought in 1989 made me at least 50x happier than the synth that I would have bought today to replace the synth that I bought in 1999, that is if I could justify the 50x less happyness...there's a WHOLE lot less "Wow, I've been waiting for them to do something like that"). I can't help but think that this is due to the increasing popularity of software synths, but despite my repeated investments in these in the last 10 years I have still to find one that matches up to a hardware synth.

lettuce




________________________________
From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:57:34 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler

128mb sucks.

Is it better than the two 50 pound keyboard samplers I have at home that
both offer 4mb of storage? Yes.

The way they sell it is that you'd store any extra samples on your
desktop/laptop computer via USB connection.

There are a few places where it misses the mark. The lack of a pitch wheel
is a slap on the forehead thing for me. The promotional video is actually
pretty funny. It's as if the marketing department couldn't figure out why
someone would ever use a keyboard sampler. So instead, they tell you how to
use it like an Alesis MPC.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing
> only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age, and
> for $750 BUCKS? With No Flash Memory SLOT??? Even the Stomp box samplers
> have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly rare
> now.
>
>
>
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Wed Sep 16 16:56:41 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 16:56:41 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>

I'm only possibly crestfallen about the lack of a pitch wheel, and most
likely they probably didn't include things like ASDR envelopes & fine
loop-point editing. The placement of the knobs and wheels also seems less
than intuitive.

The point for me is that I don't want to drag a laptop around. I don't want
to drag a 50 pound keyboard from 1986 around, and I don't want to drop $5k
on a "workstation" keyboard. I just want something that's as easy to use as
a casio SK-1, but hi-fi and with a little bit more flexibility.

With all the people who are still snapping up SK-1s - a device marketed to
children 24 years ago - you'd think that equipment manufacturers would catch
on and have more sampling keyboards around.

But no, everyone says, "Well, it's easy - you can drop $500 on a laptop,
$300 on sampling software, $100 on an audio interface and another $150 on a
keyboard controller. Then all you need to do is plug in the 3 devices, wait
for the system operating software to load up, wait for it to acknowledge the
connections, load the sampling program, and assign the switches on the
controller to the functions you want. Then you can sample to your heart's
content as long as you don't bump into any cables or the system doesn't
crash."

Matt

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you have to drag your laptop around with you, there really isn't a point
> to buying this, as there are numerous samplers for computers which can beat
> the pants off that thing for less than $500 including the $150
> midicontroller of your choice.
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade Matt, but I'm just really disappointed in the
> progress that hardware synths have made in the last 10 years. The 90's were
> at least 50x better from a progress standpoint (meaning the synth that I
> bought in 1999 to replace the synth I bought in 1989 made me at least 50x
> happier than the synth that I would have bought today to replace the synth
> that I bought in 1999, that is if I could justify the 50x less
> happyness...there's a WHOLE lot less "Wow, I've been waiting for them to do
> something like that"). I can't help but think that this is due to the
> increasing popularity of software synths, but despite my repeated
> investments in these in the last 10 years I have still to find one that
> matches up to a hardware synth.
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:57:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
>
> 128mb sucks.
>
> Is it better than the two 50 pound keyboard samplers I have at home that
> both offer 4mb of storage? Yes.
>
> The way they sell it is that you'd store any extra samples on your
> desktop/laptop computer via USB connection.
>
> There are a few places where it misses the mark. The lack of a pitch wheel
> is a slap on the forehead thing for me. The promotional video is actually
> pretty funny. It's as if the marketing department couldn't figure out why
> someone would ever use a keyboard sampler. So instead, they tell you how to
> use it like an Alesis MPC.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing
> > only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age,
> and
> > for $750 BUCKS? With No Flash Memory SLOT??? Even the Stomp box samplers
> > have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly
> rare
> > now.
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From letucepry at yahoo.com  Wed Sep 16 17:20:33 2009
From: letucepry at yahoo.com (Ron Lettuce)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:20:33 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <298305.758.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

My point exactly...they don't "think" we even exist, therefore they don't try so hard to market anything to us...I on the other hand would LOVE to buy a workstation, but they seem to think that 2x progress in 10 years is just fine when they made somewhere on the order of 100x progress in the previous decade. Instead we're left with wishy-washy new gear and software that can't compete with hardware that's 10 years old, neither one is puttin' my keys in the ignition and settin' the car on course for the music store...

lettuce




________________________________
From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:56:41 PM
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler

I'm only possibly crestfallen about the lack of a pitch wheel, and most
likely they probably didn't include things like ASDR envelopes & fine
loop-point editing. The placement of the knobs and wheels also seems less
than intuitive.

The point for me is that I don't want to drag a laptop around. I don't want
to drag a 50 pound keyboard from 1986 around, and I don't want to drop $5k
on a "workstation" keyboard. I just want something that's as easy to use as
a casio SK-1, but hi-fi and with a little bit more flexibility.

With all the people who are still snapping up SK-1s - a device marketed to
children 24 years ago - you'd think that equipment manufacturers would catch
on and have more sampling keyboards around.

But no, everyone says, "Well, it's easy - you can drop $500 on a laptop,
$300 on sampling software, $100 on an audio interface and another $150 on a
keyboard controller. Then all you need to do is plug in the 3 devices, wait
for the system operating software to load up, wait for it to acknowledge the
connections, load the sampling program, and assign the switches on the
controller to the functions you want. Then you can sample to your heart's
content as long as you don't bump into any cables or the system doesn't
crash."

Matt

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you have to drag your laptop around with you, there really isn't a point
> to buying this, as there are numerous samplers for computers which can beat
> the pants off that thing for less than $500 including the $150
> midicontroller of your choice.
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade Matt, but I'm just really disappointed in the
> progress that hardware synths have made in the last 10 years. The 90's were
> at least 50x better from a progress standpoint (meaning the synth that I
> bought in 1999 to replace the synth I bought in 1989 made me at least 50x
> happier than the synth that I would have bought today to replace the synth
> that I bought in 1999, that is if I could justify the 50x less
> happyness...there's a WHOLE lot less "Wow, I've been waiting for them to do
> something like that"). I can't help but think that this is due to the
> increasing popularity of software synths, but despite my repeated
> investments in these in the last 10 years I have still to find one that
> matches up to a hardware synth.
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:57:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
>
> 128mb sucks.
>
> Is it better than the two 50 pound keyboard samplers I have at home that
> both offer 4mb of storage? Yes.
>
> The way they sell it is that you'd store any extra samples on your
> desktop/laptop computer via USB connection.
>
> There are a few places where it misses the mark. The lack of a pitch wheel
> is a slap on the forehead thing for me. The promotional video is actually
> pretty funny. It's as if the marketing department couldn't figure out why
> someone would ever use a keyboard sampler. So instead, they tell you how to
> use it like an Alesis MPC.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing
> > only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age,
> and
> > for $750 BUCKS? With No Flash Memory SLOT??? Even the Stomp box samplers
> > have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly
> rare
> > now.
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic

From weaselw at juno.com  Wed Sep 16 17:46:55 2009
From: weaselw at juno.com (weasel walter)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2009 17:46:55 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
Message-ID: <20090916.174708.2772.1.weaselw@juno.com>

> The point for me is that I don't want to drag a laptop around. I 
> don't want to drag a 50 pound keyboard from 1986 around, and I don't
want to 
> drop $5k on a "workstation" keyboard. I just want something that's as
easy to 
> use as a casio SK-1, but hi-fi and with a little bit more flexibility.

DITTO!!! i'm psyched about this for the same reason matt is. in fact, i
hope it fucking flops terribly so i can wait a year and buy one for 100
bucks. 

give me ZERO latency or give me . . . nothing, thanks.

ww
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From polly.moller at gmail.com  Thu Sep 17 13:58:58 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 13:58:58 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Reviews, photos, etc. for October Transbay
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909171358o6fcdb6aan968ec413d1d7d586@mail.gmail.com>

Hey all you reviewers and photographers -- send your contributions to
Naho Yoshida, nyoshida at sfgirlschorus.org, if you would like them
considered for the October Transbay epic publication.
Thanks!
P.

-- 
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From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 17:12:15 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 17:12:15 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>

Matt, I thought you might find this amusing: The Reluctant Dragon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lq9ZmshZ0

Check out the sonovox:  Wonder if that still exists.


-----Original Message-----
From: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
[mailto:newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Davignon
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 4:57 PM
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler

I'm only possibly crestfallen about the lack of a pitch wheel, and most
likely they probably didn't include things like ASDR envelopes & fine
loop-point editing. The placement of the knobs and wheels also seems less
than intuitive.

The point for me is that I don't want to drag a laptop around. I don't want
to drag a 50 pound keyboard from 1986 around, and I don't want to drop $5k
on a "workstation" keyboard. I just want something that's as easy to use as
a casio SK-1, but hi-fi and with a little bit more flexibility.

With all the people who are still snapping up SK-1s - a device marketed to
children 24 years ago - you'd think that equipment manufacturers would catch
on and have more sampling keyboards around.

But no, everyone says, "Well, it's easy - you can drop $500 on a laptop,
$300 on sampling software, $100 on an audio interface and another $150 on a
keyboard controller. Then all you need to do is plug in the 3 devices, wait
for the system operating software to load up, wait for it to acknowledge the
connections, load the sampling program, and assign the switches on the
controller to the functions you want. Then you can sample to your heart's
content as long as you don't bump into any cables or the system doesn't
crash."

Matt

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If you have to drag your laptop around with you, there really isn't a
point
> to buying this, as there are numerous samplers for computers which can
beat
> the pants off that thing for less than $500 including the $150
> midicontroller of your choice.
>
> Sorry to rain on your parade Matt, but I'm just really disappointed in the
> progress that hardware synths have made in the last 10 years. The 90's
were
> at least 50x better from a progress standpoint (meaning the synth that I
> bought in 1999 to replace the synth I bought in 1989 made me at least 50x
> happier than the synth that I would have bought today to replace the synth
> that I bought in 1999, that is if I could justify the 50x less
> happyness...there's a WHOLE lot less "Wow, I've been waiting for them to
do
> something like that"). I can't help but think that this is due to the
> increasing popularity of software synths, but despite my repeated
> investments in these in the last 10 years I have still to find one that
> matches up to a hardware synth.
>
> lettuce
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Matt Davignon <mattdavignon at gmail.com>
> To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 3:57:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
>
> 128mb sucks.
>
> Is it better than the two 50 pound keyboard samplers I have at home that
> both offer 4mb of storage? Yes.
>
> The way they sell it is that you'd store any extra samples on your
> desktop/laptop computer via USB connection.
>
> There are a few places where it misses the mark. The lack of a pitch wheel
> is a slap on the forehead thing for me. The promotional video is actually
> pretty funny. It's as if the marketing department couldn't figure out why
> someone would ever use a keyboard sampler. So instead, they tell you how
to
> use it like an Alesis MPC.
>
> --
> Matt Davignon
> www.ribosomemusic.com
> Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Ron Lettuce <letucepry at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Although I can't see it written anywhere...all signs point to this thing
> > only giving you 128MB of memory (21 min @ 48khz)...in THIS day and age,
> and
> > for $750 BUCKS? With No Flash Memory SLOT??? Even the Stomp box samplers
> > have 2 GB today, and expansion slots....which are getting exceedingly
> rare
> > now.
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
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>



-- 
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Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt
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From slusser at pixar.com  Sat Sep 19 18:18:08 2009
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 18:18:08 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>
Message-ID: <4CF3781F-20A3-4FAC-834A-C9753075D3F1@pixar.com>

On Sep 19, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Jon Raskin wrote:

> Matt, I thought you might find this amusing: The Reluctant Dragon
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lq9ZmshZ0
>
> Check out the sonovox:  Wonder if that still exists.

I have the Heil Talk Box, which is a modern equivalent.  The Sonovox  
used
small speakers you pressed to your throat.  Heil used a big magnetic  
speaker
driver, and instead of coupling it to a speaker cone, ran it down a  
tube you
place in your mouth.  Both of them project amplified sound through your
head, using your mouth as a filter.  They both require a good sized  
amplifier
to drive them, and then you need to mic the mouth to pick up the sound.
The Sonovox could leak (pre-filtered) sound at your throat, but the  
talk box
requires a tube in your mouth, which makes articulating many  
syllables quite
difficult.  Those familiar with rock may have seen Joe Walsh or Peter  
Frampton
do a talking guitar thing with it.  It's kind of unpleasant to do,  
and you need
two amps and a PA.

Great Robert Benchly sound effects short.  Those were the real Disney  
sound men
at the props, on their actual stage.

From r8string at gmail.com  Sat Sep 19 20:04:41 2009
From: r8string at gmail.com (Ron Thompson)
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 20:04:41 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Leon Kirchner RIP
Message-ID: <92232ec80909192004l5090ab89le8e63cbb809d6dcc@mail.gmail.com>

Leon Kirchner passes away at 90.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/18/arts/music/18kirchner.html?_r=1&hpw

Ron

From jon_raskin at yahoo.com  Sat Sep 19 20:38:39 2009
From: jon_raskin at yahoo.com (Jon Raskin)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 03:38:39 +0000
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
Message-ID: <2084298364-1253417832-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-720194295-@bda298.bisx.prod.on.blackberry>

I was aware if the vocoder but the sonovox seems to be more responsive  and versatile.  There was another clip with a big band and signer that move it around.  Quite clever.

------Original Message------
From: David Slusser
Sender: newmusic-bounces at music.mills.edu
To: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
ReplyTo: Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
Subject: Re: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
Sent: Sep 19, 2009 6:18 PM

On Sep 19, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Jon Raskin wrote:

> Matt, I thought you might find this amusing: The Reluctant Dragon
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lq9ZmshZ0
>
> Check out the sonovox:  Wonder if that still exists.

I have the Heil Talk Box, which is a modern equivalent.  The Sonovox  
used
small speakers you pressed to your throat.  Heil used a big magnetic  
speaker
driver, and instead of coupling it to a speaker cone, ran it down a  
tube you
place in your mouth.  Both of them project amplified sound through your
head, using your mouth as a filter.  They both require a good sized  
amplifier
to drive them, and then you need to mic the mouth to pick up the sound.
The Sonovox could leak (pre-filtered) sound at your throat, but the  
talk box
requires a tube in your mouth, which makes articulating many  
syllables quite
difficult.  Those familiar with rock may have seen Joe Walsh or Peter  
Frampton
do a talking guitar thing with it.  It's kind of unpleasant to do,  
and you need
two amps and a PA.

Great Robert Benchly sound effects short.  Those were the real Disney  
sound men
at the props, on their actual stage.
_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


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From michaelz at zoka.com  Sun Sep 20 09:02:22 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:02:22 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <4CF3781F-20A3-4FAC-834A-C9753075D3F1@pixar.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>
	<4CF3781F-20A3-4FAC-834A-C9753075D3F1@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <p0624080ac6dbff3b7652@[192.168.1.2]>

On 9/19/09, David Slusser wrote:

>On Sep 19, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Jon Raskin wrote:
>
>>  Matt, I thought you might find this amusing: The Reluctant Dragon
>  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lq9ZmshZ0


>Great Robert Benchly sound effects short. Those were the real Disney 
>sound men at the props, on their actual stage.

FWIW, the conductor was an actor, though -- Frank Faylen, who played 
Dobie's father on "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis," and earlier, 
Ernie the taxi driver in "It's a Wonderful Life."

<http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269709/>

MZ

From slusser at pixar.com  Sun Sep 20 10:02:51 2009
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:02:51 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <p0624080ac6dbff3b7652@[192.168.1.2]>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>
	<4CF3781F-20A3-4FAC-834A-C9753075D3F1@pixar.com>
	<p0624080ac6dbff3b7652@[192.168.1.2]>
Message-ID: <6E159F19-53A6-4203-B064-7362D53F2927@pixar.com>

On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Michael Zelner wrote:

> On 9/19/09, David Slusser wrote:
>
>> On Sep 19, 2009, at 5:12 PM, Jon Raskin wrote:
>>
>>>  Matt, I thought you might find this amusing: The Reluctant Dragon
>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18lq9ZmshZ0
>
>
>> Great Robert Benchly sound effects short. Those were the real Disney
>> sound men at the props, on their actual stage.
>
> FWIW, the conductor was an actor, though -- Frank Faylen, who played
> Dobie's father on "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis," and earlier,
> Ernie the taxi driver in "It's a Wonderful Life."
>
> <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269709/>
>
> MZ

Yes, I recognized him, but thought that was waaaay too nerdy to mention.
So who's the Donna-Reed-like babe with the Sonovox?

From michaelz at zoka.com  Sun Sep 20 20:51:04 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 23:51:04 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] Korg Microsampler
In-Reply-To: <6E159F19-53A6-4203-B064-7362D53F2927@pixar.com>
References: <307654.39470.qm@web51604.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<405513.55492.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161557l2d26a9a9w4fdb96363c902e79@mail.gmail.com>
	<468252.77548.qm@web54304.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<c70e517b0909161656w2557d54h5fdcc22f5e50d8dc@mail.gmail.com>
	<010d01ca3987$023a16d0$06ae4470$@com>
	<4CF3781F-20A3-4FAC-834A-C9753075D3F1@pixar.com>
	<p0624080ac6dbff3b7652@[192.168.1.2]>
	<6E159F19-53A6-4203-B064-7362D53F2927@pixar.com>
Message-ID: <p06240812c6dca0713f29@[192.168.1.2]>

On 9/20/09, David Slusser wrote:

>On Sep 20, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Michael Zelner wrote:

>  > FWIW, the conductor was an actor, though -- Frank Faylen, who played
>>  Dobie's father on "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis," and earlier,
>>  Ernie the taxi driver in "It's a Wonderful Life."
>>
>  > <http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0269709/>

>Yes, I recognized him, but thought that was waaaay too nerdy to mention.

Hey, feel free next time. You're among friends here.

Nerdy, nerdy friends.

>So who's the Donna-Reed-like babe with the Sonovox?

No idea, so I dug around.

Okay, I thought she might be Margaret Wright (the 
voice of Casey Junior in Dumbo).
(Photo not available. . .)

But according to the IMDB 
<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0034091/fullcredits#cast > 
and the notes on this alternate YooTube clip, 
it's Frances Gifford:

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENvOpHMaohA>

David probably remembers her as Nyoka in Jungle Girl. . .

<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC1Ph6WpqA4>

But back to the Sonovox -- according to 
Wikipedia, "Lucille Ball made one of her earliest 
film appearances during the 1930s in a Path? 
Newsreel demonstrating the Sonovox." Now clip of 
that I would like to see.

MZ

From djll at sonic.net  Sun Sep 20 21:07:19 2009
From: djll at sonic.net (Tom Dill)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:07:19 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] oops, y'all
Message-ID: <BBC787D0-3831-43DC-8278-D8FDE8E7A3BC@sonic.net>

There was a far too small house at the SFEMF last night. Yo peeps  
shoulda been there for Gino's I, Norton presentation. Goddamn great  
electronic music!!! and Tom Duff rocked the house, building light  
castles and issuing proclamations for th' ages. And a profoundly  
beautiful middle section of pure electronics, courtesy of Chris Brown,  
Kristin Miltner, and Wobbly. I won't soon forget it.

Wow, wow, wow.

I feel sorry for you schmucks who didn't go. I drove 90 miles for it,  
and it was worth every revolution of the wheels.

td

Tom Djll
227 Otis St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(831) 429-8072  home
(831) 423-3050 office
(831) 320-1489 cell
djll at sonic.net
tom at mythmaker.com
www.mythmaker.com

Music, calendar, & bio:
http://www.bayimproviser.com/TomDjll

More music w/sound snippets:
http://www.myspace.com/analoguelipsynthesizer

Photography:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/djll/





From polly.moller at gmail.com  Sun Sep 20 22:14:59 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:14:59 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] oops, y'all
In-Reply-To: <BBC787D0-3831-43DC-8278-D8FDE8E7A3BC@sonic.net>
References: <BBC787D0-3831-43DC-8278-D8FDE8E7A3BC@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909202214o1da52fu81f615a88d29698c@mail.gmail.com>

I agree wholeheartedly with Tom.
Every part of the opera was strong, from the music to Tom Duff's
portrayal of the Emperor to the gorgeous live video of Tim Thompson.
It was Norton taken to a whole nother level.
P.

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Tom Dill <djll at sonic.net> wrote:
> There was a far too small house at the SFEMF last night. Yo peeps
> shoulda been there for Gino's I, Norton presentation. Goddamn great
> electronic music!!! and Tom Duff rocked the house, building light
> castles and issuing proclamations for th' ages. And a profoundly
> beautiful middle section of pure electronics, courtesy of Chris Brown,
> Kristin Miltner, and Wobbly. I won't soon forget it.
>
> Wow, wow, wow.
>
> I feel sorry for you schmucks who didn't go. I drove 90 miles for it,
> and it was worth every revolution of the wheels.
>
> td
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From polly.moller at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 08:30:09 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:30:09 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909220830p20aa0a76k77e39eb4da77660f@mail.gmail.com>

No new music luminaries this year.
http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fellows.htm

P.

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From gino at rastascan.com  Tue Sep 22 09:22:25 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:22:25 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
Message-ID: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>

No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where people
are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent Reznor), it
looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.

Polly Moller wrote:
No new music luminaries this year.
http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fe
llows.htm

P.


From michaelz at zoka.com  Tue Sep 22 09:52:56 2009
From: michaelz at zoka.com (Michael Zelner)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:52:56 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <p06240805c6deb142287b@[192.168.0.2]>

On 9/22/09, Gino Robair wrote:

>No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where people
>are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent Reznor), it
>looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.

At least you weren't alone in being snubbed this year, Gino!

Better luck next time.

MZ

--------------michaelz at zoka.com---
             Michael Zelner
---Oakland CA USA------------------

From r8string at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 09:58:50 2009
From: r8string at gmail.com (Ron Thompson)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:58:50 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>

Well it seems that to the Mac Foundation, nobody seemed to be nominated who
was deemed appropriate for an award in the music field.  You have to be
nominated right?  Perhaps it also speaks to the "lack" of meaningful work
being done at this time.  Might be heretical to say that, but it's a
possibility.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:

> No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where people
> are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent Reznor), it
> looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.
>
> Polly Moller wrote:
> No new music luminaries this year.
>
> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fe
> llows.htm
>
> P.
>
>  _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 10:00:29 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:00:29 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
	<92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909221000g7a884defkb854f2cc46f931d2@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, you have to be nominated by one of their secret network of spies.
It's very cloak-and-dagger.
It might be interesting to find out if John Zorn and Walter Kitundu
know who their
nominators are, now that they've been made Geniuses.
P.

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Ron Thompson <r8string at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well it seems that to the Mac Foundation, nobody seemed to be nominated who
> was deemed appropriate for an award in the music field. ?You have to be
> nominated right? ?Perhaps it also speaks to the "lack" of meaningful work
> being done at this time. ?Might be heretical to say that, but it's a
> possibility.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
>> No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where people
>> are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent Reznor), it
>> looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.
>>
>> Polly Moller wrote:
>> No new music luminaries this year.
>>
>> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fe
>> llows.htm
>>
>> P.
>>
>> ?_______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



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From gino at rastascan.com  Tue Sep 22 10:32:05 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:32:05 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
Message-ID: <C6DE5825.37C0%gino@rastascan.com>

Well, Ron, that's a good point. However, I would say that (based on what
I've seen in the past year or two) there is no lack of incredible and
meaningful music being created right now. It's really about audience
development, listener apathy, etc.



Ron Thompson wrote:
Well it seems that to the Mac Foundation, nobody seemed to be nominated who
was deemed appropriate for an award in the music field.  You have to be
nominated right?  Perhaps it also speaks to the "lack" of meaningful work
being done at this time.  Might be heretical to say that, but it's a
possibility.


From ie at allwaysnorth.com  Tue Sep 22 10:49:41 2009
From: ie at allwaysnorth.com (Cheryl Leonard)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:49:41 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
Message-ID: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>

Hi folks,

I've been using homemade piezo contact mics on my found-object  
instruments for years. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a higher- 
quality contact mic that might be suitable for using on quiet objects  
like bones, stones, wood etc.

I'd love to find something that is less tinny sounding (with more of  
a flat frequency response) and has a higher gain output. Note: I have  
also been using Aquarian Audio hydrophones as contact mics. I like  
them, but they are a bit strong on the low end for some things.

Has anybody had success using Fishman transducers, acoustic guitar  
contact mics, or B-band pickups on found objects? Any other ideas  
people?

Thanks,
Cheryl


From phil at philipgelb.com  Tue Sep 22 10:51:25 2009
From: phil at philipgelb.com (philip gelb)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 10:51:25 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
	<92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <91C9AE74-779D-4FBB-B75A-50BCC53EC178@philipgelb.com>

with all the brilliant musicians on the planet, it is not possible  
there were no musicians chosen for "lack of meaningful work"!!!
any of us can easily rattle off names of people who are so obviously  
qualified for this award.
Pauline Oliveros, Sam Rivers, Kazue Sawai are only 3 examples that  
immediately came to my mind

philip gelb
phil at philipgelb.com
http://philipgelb.com
http://myspace.com/inthemoodforfood
http://myspace.com/philipgelb

On Sep 22, 2009, at 9:58 AM, Ron Thompson wrote:

> Well it seems that to the Mac Foundation, nobody seemed to be  
> nominated who
> was deemed appropriate for an award in the music field.  You have to  
> be
> nominated right?  Perhaps it also speaks to the "lack" of meaningful  
> work
> being done at this time.  Might be heretical to say that, but it's a
> possibility.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com>  
> wrote:
>
>> No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where  
>> people
>> are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent  
>> Reznor), it
>> looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.
>>
>> Polly Moller wrote:
>> No new music luminaries this year.
>>
>> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fe
>> llows.htm
>>
>> P.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
>> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
>> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 13:33:26 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:33:26 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
In-Reply-To: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
References: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909221333i1e9b8968o52c744abcd47ac8@mail.gmail.com>

Tom Nunn uses K&K Sound "big shot" contact mics, and I think they sound
great on his instruments:
www.kksound.com


-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Cheryl Leonard <ie at allwaysnorth.com>wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've been using homemade piezo contact mics on my found-object
> instruments for years. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a higher-
> quality contact mic that might be suitable for using on quiet objects
> like bones, stones, wood etc.
>
> I'd love to find something that is less tinny sounding (with more of
> a flat frequency response) and has a higher gain output. Note: I have
> also been using Aquarian Audio hydrophones as contact mics. I like
> them, but they are a bit strong on the low end for some things.
>
> Has anybody had success using Fishman transducers, acoustic guitar
> contact mics, or B-band pickups on found objects? Any other ideas
> people?
>
> Thanks,
> Cheryl
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 13:43:00 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:43:00 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
	<92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909221343w38f96c1fo12bc4a68053947e4@mail.gmail.com>

moh...
Nobody likes us.

Do they ALWAYS have an award for every field? Would it be possible that the
other nominees seemed more promising than this year's music nominees? It
seems a little presumptuous to assume that there would always be a "new
music" person in the fellows list.

I have a hunch that a Kronos Quartet member may be on the music board.
That's a link between John Zorn and Kitundu.

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt


On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:58 AM, Ron Thompson <r8string at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well it seems that to the Mac Foundation, nobody seemed to be nominated who
> was deemed appropriate for an award in the music field.  You have to be
> nominated right?  Perhaps it also speaks to the "lack" of meaningful work
> being done at this time.  Might be heretical to say that, but it's a
> possibility.
>
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 9:22 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:
>
> > No professional musicians whatsoever on that list. In a year where people
> > are being told that recorded music has no value (e.g., Trent Reznor), it
> > looks as if the artform itself has become invisible.
> >
> > Polly Moller wrote:
> > No new music luminaries this year.
> >
> >
> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fe
> > llows.htm
> >
> > P.
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>

From otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com  Tue Sep 22 13:50:53 2009
From: otis_mccoppin at yahoo.com (Otis McCoppin)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 13:50:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
In-Reply-To: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
Message-ID: <255450.57833.qm@web38304.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Yes, a lot of the contact mics out there have the tinny, scratch sound. I love the clear sound of piezo film pickups, just used them all over the new Kwisp cd, on some of Tom Nunn's instruments and more. 

They are sold by experimental musical instruments, perfect for what you are looking for.

~Walter

http://windworld.com/products-page/electronic-hardware/magnetic-spot-pickups/

Piezo-electric film has several advantages over traditional rigid
contact pickups: It shows an extraordinarily broad and flat frequency
response; it is free of self-resonance; it mounts readily on all sorts
of surfaces whether flat or curved without inhibiting vibration; it can
extend over a larger portion of the vibrating body to give a more
balanced response; and it is sensitive enough to capture some of the
air resonance tone when mounted inside the soundboard of instruments
with air chambers. The actual pieazo film is coated with a thin layer
of tough, flexible polymer, so it makes for pickups that are
lightweight yet durable. It can work on any instrument with a solid
vibrating surface, such as string instruments with soundboards, drum
heads, marimba bars, etc.

--- On Tue, 9/22/09, Cheryl Leonard <ie at allwaysnorth.com> wrote:

From: Cheryl Leonard <ie at allwaysnorth.com>
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
To: "Bay Area New Music Discussion Group" <newmusic at music.mills.edu>
Date: Tuesday, September 22, 2009, 10:49 AM

Hi folks,

I've been using homemade piezo contact mics on my found-object? 
instruments for years. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a higher- 
quality contact mic that might be suitable for using on quiet objects? 
like bones, stones, wood etc.

I'd love to find something that is less tinny sounding (with more of? 
a flat frequency response) and has a higher gain output. Note: I have? 
also been using Aquarian Audio hydrophones as contact mics. I like? 
them, but they are a bit strong on the low end for some things.

Has anybody had success using Fishman transducers, acoustic guitar? 
contact mics, or B-band pickups on found objects? Any other ideas? 
people?

Thanks,
Cheryl

_______________________________________________
Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
NewMusic at music.mills.edu
http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic



      

From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 14:37:12 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:37:12 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
In-Reply-To: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
References: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
Message-ID: <98e30a870909221437u4b0101cew54ed7fcf8ce51b84@mail.gmail.com>

Fishman didn't work well for me.
The piezzos I got from Radio Shack seem ok on some of my invented
instruments.
Tom Duff gave me some discs I had to solder leads onto that are working
well.
But the double KK I got from Tom Nunn is great on my cello, replacing an
ancient Barcus Berry that was problematic.
bob marsh

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Cheryl Leonard <ie at allwaysnorth.com>wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> I've been using homemade piezo contact mics on my found-object
> instruments for years. I'm wondering if anyone can suggest a higher-
> quality contact mic that might be suitable for using on quiet objects
> like bones, stones, wood etc.
>
> I'd love to find something that is less tinny sounding (with more of
> a flat frequency response) and has a higher gain output. Note: I have
> also been using Aquarian Audio hydrophones as contact mics. I like
> them, but they are a bit strong on the low end for some things.
>
> Has anybody had success using Fishman transducers, acoustic guitar
> contact mics, or B-band pickups on found objects? Any other ideas
> people?
>
> Thanks,
> Cheryl
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus

From barry.threw at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 14:49:36 2009
From: barry.threw at gmail.com (Barry Threw)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:49:36 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <c70e517b0909221343w38f96c1fo12bc4a68053947e4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <C6DE47D1.3783%gino@rastascan.com>
	<92232ec80909220958g2807c5caif4bc666fb929bdaf@mail.gmail.com>
	<c70e517b0909221343w38f96c1fo12bc4a68053947e4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <08DA4B26-9DF3-44A1-B5A8-A81AC25BBBBA@gmail.com>

How about "Congratulations to Camille Utterback, Bay Area New Media  
artist who won this year"?

bt

From slusser at pixar.com  Wed Sep 23 07:54:08 2009
From: slusser at pixar.com (David Slusser)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:54:08 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Happy Equinox
Message-ID: <92606EE7-7701-460B-A81D-4CC4C2437298@pixar.com>

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/wkcr/

From td at pixar.com  Wed Sep 23 14:20:25 2009
From: td at pixar.com (Tom Duff)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:20:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>


Polly writes:
> No new music luminaries this year.
> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fellows.htm

No, sadly.  But, for the third year running, someone I know (Maneesh 
Agrawala) got one.  I think they're homing in on me...  (Or maybe they
think I have an in with Gino.)

-- 
Tom Duff.  Upon completion of maintenance discard mysterious leftover
parts and screws.

From polly.moller at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 14:44:09 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:44:09 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909231444o577b1c89p6a403f96b367085e@mail.gmail.com>

You're one of the Foundation's secret network of spies!  I knew it!!! :)
P.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Tom Duff <td at pixar.com> wrote:
>
> Polly writes:
>> No new music luminaries this year.
>> http://www.macfound.org/site/c.lkLXJ8MQKrH/b.5410503/k.11CB/Meet_the_2009_Fellows.htm
>
> No, sadly. ?But, for the third year running, someone I know (Maneesh
> Agrawala) got one. ?I think they're homing in on me... ?(Or maybe they
> think I have an in with Gino.)


-- 
------------------------------------------------------
http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com
------------------------------------------------------

From walters at doubtfulpalace.com  Wed Sep 23 14:46:46 2009
From: walters at doubtfulpalace.com (Tim Walters)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:46:46 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40909231444o577b1c89p6a403f96b367085e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
	<2eb068d40909231444o577b1c89p6a403f96b367085e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <19188.198.1253742406.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com>

> You're one of the Foundation's secret network of spies!  I knew it!!! :)

Hari Seldon gives out these things?

-- 
Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com



From polly.moller at gmail.com  Wed Sep 23 14:49:33 2009
From: polly.moller at gmail.com (Polly Moller)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:49:33 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <19188.198.1253742406.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
	<2eb068d40909231444o577b1c89p6a403f96b367085e@mail.gmail.com>
	<19188.198.1253742406.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com>
Message-ID: <2eb068d40909231449l5fe8d418tcd7cba07169c6486@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, and Arkady Darrell figured out who the Fellows were going to be.
(geek geek)
P.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Tim Walters <walters at doubtfulpalace.com> wrote:
>> You're one of the Foundation's secret network of spies! ?I knew it!!! :)
>
> Hari Seldon gives out these things?

-- 
------------------------------------------------------
http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com
------------------------------------------------------

From jzitt at metatronpress.com  Wed Sep 23 15:25:10 2009
From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:25:10 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] 2009 Macarthur Fellows
In-Reply-To: <19188.198.1253742406.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0909231417430.12533@marvin.dynamic.pixar.com>
	<2eb068d40909231444o577b1c89p6a403f96b367085e@mail.gmail.com>
	<19188.198.1253742406.squirrel@o2.hostbaby.com>
Message-ID: <cf60725f0909231525h23272a41wb9b23b7f9d8332b4@mail.gmail.com>

All roads lead to Tom, and that is where all stars end.

On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 5:46 PM, Tim Walters <walters at doubtfulpalace.com>wrote:

> > You're one of the Foundation's secret network of spies!  I knew it!!! :)
>
> Hari Seldon gives out these things?
>
> --
> Tim Walters | http://doubtfulpalace.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com

From bergmark1 at glocalnet.net  Thu Sep 24 10:00:06 2009
From: bergmark1 at glocalnet.net (Johannes Bergmark)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:00:06 +0200
Subject: [NewMusic] better contact mics?
In-Reply-To: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
References: <C7104809-8ED3-49B6-90C4-487BC60724CE@allwaysnorth.com>
Message-ID: <494497FC-1BA8-4484-972E-A3054F4A9FFF@glocalnet.net>

Hello friends in the Bay!

Here's my web site with tips and experiences of making my own contact  
mikes and how to use them ? to be updated if you have information that  
isn't there! I'd appreciate any comments or links to other informative  
sites.
http://www.bergmark.org/piezo.html
	Something I will update is e.g. the problematic idea to use contact  
mikes for non-solid sound sources:
- Recently my friend Jon Halvor Bj?rnseth showed a more successful way  
to mike dripping water (something I tried before with the conclusion  
that this is better with air mikes): to use plastic containers and put  
the contact mike under the bottom of the container, perhaps better on  
a place which is not in direct contact with the floor (he used foam  
rubber, or two sticks elevating the sides of a bucket).
http://drivhuset.musikkverksted.no/jonhalvor/
- Recently I read on the Oddmusic email list ( http://groups.yahoo.com/group/oddmusic/ 
  ? highly recommended!) about Martin O'Loughlin that invents peculiar  
didjeridoos using a loose mouthpiece with the contact mike in it.  
That's wind instruments! He said the strongest vibrations in wind  
instruments are in the mouthpiece. Obviously strong enough to use with  
good results! What do you know.
http://martino.fluiditj.com/opendidge.html

Johannes Bergmark, Stockholm

-------------------------
http://bergmark.org
http://surrealistgruppen.org
http://fylkingen.se

From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 24 22:57:59 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 22:57:59 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] cd keeper hub things
Message-ID: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know of a source for those springy center hub cd keeper things?
Those plastic things, but only the plastic part.
I am working on some diy releases and cutting up old paintings and painting
plywood, etc.
Setola di Maiale in Italy uses some, but I am hoping there are some in this
country

-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus

From pamelaz at pamelaz.com  Thu Sep 24 23:33:59 2009
From: pamelaz at pamelaz.com (Pamela Z)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:33:59 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] cd keeper hub things
In-Reply-To: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3A8792AB-40D5-4A8A-90DB-D9AFAC989F93@pamelaz.com>

ARCH plotters' supply in San Francisco has the little black rubbery  
ones.

pz


On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Bob Marsh wrote:

> Does anyone know of a source for those springy center hub cd keeper  
> things?
> Those plastic things, but only the plastic part.
> I am working on some diy releases and cutting up old paintings and  
> painting
> plywood, etc.
> Setola di Maiale in Italy uses some, but I am hoping there are some  
> in this
> country
>
> -- 
> Bob Marsh
> 475 43rd Street
> Richmond, CA 94805
> 510-236-2595 home
> 510-932-9268 cell
> www.bobmarsh.net
> www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
> www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
> www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
> www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
> www.myspace.com/mrhg80
> www.myspace.com/8vuit8
> www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
> www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


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From djcypod at gmail.com  Fri Sep 25 09:22:09 2009
From: djcypod at gmail.com (b)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:22:09 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic]  Fwd: Application to perform at SFIAF due October 1
In-Reply-To: <200909251616.n8PGFgd8031357@openrang1.openrangeweb.com>
References: <200909251616.n8PGFgd8031357@openrang1.openrangeweb.com>
Message-ID: <fc5507fa0909250922u27898455t299058937436cb6a@mail.gmail.com>

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From: San Francisco International Arts Festival <sfiaf at sfiaf.org>
Date: Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 9:16 AM
Subject: Application to perform at SFIAF due October 1
To: djcypod at gmail.com


 If the message below is not displaying properly, go to the following page:
http://sfiaf.org/postcards/2009/092909/
Application to perform at SFIAF due October 1

The San Francisco International Arts Festival is currently accepting
applications for individual performance artists and companies to present
their work at the Festival in 2011, which will run from May 18 - June 5.

For more information please visit the festival website at
www.sfiaf.org/2011or call our office at 415-399-9554.

We are also still accepting applications for our MASH Program designed for
younger artists to participate in the 2010 Festival at Union Square, which
will run from May 19-May 30.

For more information on how to take part in MASH go to
http://sfiaf.org/2010/mash.php or call our office at 415-399-9554.

Some Highlights of SFIAF 2009
      <http://www.sfiaf.org/>  Germany's Sasha Waltz & Guests Perform at
SFIAF 2009. The company's only US appearances this year

*What do you get when you mix five dancers from five different parts of the
world, five chairs, a long table and a refrigerator holding nothing but a
Coke and a raw chicken? Believe it or not, a superbly engaging evening with
Sasha Waltz & Guests at the San Francisco International Arts Festival.*
*Jordan Winer* writing for *Dance Insider*

*It was a brilliant stroke to bring back to the Bay Area for a two-night run
the Berlin-based choreographer Sasha Waltz.*
*Allan Ulrich, Voice of Dance*

*Thank you, Andrew Wood for the SF International Arts Festival, the
successful negotiation of visas for all and especially for Sasha Waltz &
Guests.*
*Joanna Harris, CultureVulture.net*
------------------------------
      <http://www.sfiaf.org/>  Cho-In Theatre of Seoul, South Korea made
their US debut at SFIAF 2009

*With the swift, sharp strokes of masterful physical performance, the broad
comedy of a rural folktale turns into a potent, even shocking look at the
soul-wrenching inhumanity of war.*
*Rob Hurwitt, SF Chronicle*

*The popular Korean folk tale of an angel coming to earth and discovered by
an aging mother and her son, as re-told by Cho-In Theatre, is a testament to
the craft and discipline necessary for such a performance. Brought by the
extraordinary talent of Cho-In, the folk tale speaks without words,
transcending the barriers of language.*
*Amy Marie Boulanger, SF Examiner*

*"Angel" is a gut-wrenching anti-war manifesto, and all of it realized
without the use of a single word.*
*Rita Felciano, Dance View*
------------------------------
      <http://www.sfiaf.org/>  Heading up the home team, the Bay Area's
Gamelan Sekar Jaya celebrated their 30th Anniversary at SFIAF 2009.



*[Gamelan] Sekar Jaya embodies the principles of artistic exchange which
Andrew Wood, director of the San Francisco International Arts Festival, is
seeking to make common San Francisco practice each spring.*
*Renee Renouf Hall, ballet.co.uk*
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From pamelaz at pamelaz.com  Fri Sep 25 09:53:11 2009
From: pamelaz at pamelaz.com (Pamela Z)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:53:11 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] cd keeper hub things
In-Reply-To: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B2BE10E8-BC19-47DA-9C04-AD73CCCD04CA@pamelaz.com>

ARCH plotters' supply in San Francisco has the little black rubbery  
ones.

pz


On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Bob Marsh wrote:

> Does anyone know of a source for those springy center hub cd keeper  
> things?
> Those plastic things, but only the plastic part.
> I am working on some diy releases and cutting up old paintings and  
> painting
> plywood, etc.
> Setola di Maiale in Italy uses some, but I am hoping there are some  
> in this
> country
>
> -- 
> Bob Marsh
> 475 43rd Street
> Richmond, CA 94805
> 510-236-2595 home
> 510-932-9268 cell
> www.bobmarsh.net
> www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
> www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
> www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
> www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
> www.myspace.com/mrhg80
> www.myspace.com/8vuit8
> www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
> www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic


Pamela Z
Composer/Performer

pamelaz at pamelaz.com  |  415 861 EARS (415 861 3277)  |  mobile: 415  
5PAMELA (415 572 6352)  |  www.pamelaz.com

(I sometimes forward my land line to my mobile.)

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http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer
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follow me at http://twitter.com/pamelaz

Skype: pamelazed   iChat: pamelazdotcom (AIM)

Snail Mail:
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540 Alabama Street Studio 213
San Francisco, CA 94110, USA

shipping address (for packages larger than a 10" x 13" envelope):
Pamela Z  2440 Sixteenth Street  PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA







From jzitt at metatronpress.com  Sat Sep 26 12:24:46 2009
From: jzitt at metatronpress.com (Joseph Zitt)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 2009 15:24:46 -0400
Subject: [NewMusic] cd keeper hub things
In-Reply-To: <B2BE10E8-BC19-47DA-9C04-AD73CCCD04CA@pamelaz.com>
References: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<B2BE10E8-BC19-47DA-9C04-AD73CCCD04CA@pamelaz.com>
Message-ID: <cf60725f0909261224t7b70f0ddy25d71747d9e18695@mail.gmail.com>

If these are the little hubs that, for example, OgreOgress uses, my
experience is that they fail quite quickly, resulting in the CDs falling out
and getting munged.

On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Pamela Z <pamelaz at pamelaz.com> wrote:

> ARCH plotters' supply in San Francisco has the little black rubbery
> ones.
>
> pz
>
>
> On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Bob Marsh wrote:
>
> > Does anyone know of a source for those springy center hub cd keeper
> > things?
> > Those plastic things, but only the plastic part.
> > I am working on some diy releases and cutting up old paintings and
> > painting
> > plywood, etc.
> > Setola di Maiale in Italy uses some, but I am hoping there are some
> > in this
> > country
> >
> > --
> > Bob Marsh
> > 475 43rd Street
> > Richmond, CA 94805
> > 510-236-2595 home
> > 510-932-9268 cell
> > www.bobmarsh.net
> > www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
> > www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
> > www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
> > www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
> > www.myspace.com/mrhg80
> > www.myspace.com/8vuit8
> > www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
> > www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>
>
> Pamela Z
> Composer/Performer
>
> pamelaz at pamelaz.com  |  415 861 EARS (415 861 3277)  |  mobile: 415
> 5PAMELA (415 572 6352)  |  www.pamelaz.com
>
> (I sometimes forward my land line to my mobile.)
>
> http://www.pamelaz.com
> http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer
> http://www.facebook.com/pamelazed
> follow me at http://twitter.com/pamelaz
>
> Skype: pamelazed   iChat: pamelazdotcom (AIM)
>
> Snail Mail:
> Pamela Z Productions
> 540 Alabama Street Studio 213
> San Francisco, CA 94110, USA
>
> shipping address (for packages larger than a 10" x 13" envelope):
> Pamela Z  2440 Sixteenth Street  PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com

From amar at ptank.com  Mon Sep 28 21:56:42 2009
From: amar at ptank.com (Amar Chaudhary)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2009 21:56:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [NewMusic] Photos from I Norton at SFEMF? [was Re:  oops, y'all]
In-Reply-To: <2eb068d40909202214o1da52fu81f615a88d29698c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BBC787D0-3831-43DC-8278-D8FDE8E7A3BC@sonic.net>
	<2eb068d40909202214o1da52fu81f615a88d29698c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <57373.69.106.239.191.1254200202.squirrel@webmail.ptank.com>

I just finished putting together a review of the SFEMF Wed+Sat shows for
my website CatSynth and was wondering if anyone had a photo of the I
Norton performance that I could use? (credit+link given, of course)

Thanks
-Amar



> I agree wholeheartedly with Tom.
> Every part of the opera was strong, from the music to Tom Duff's
> portrayal of the Emperor to the gorgeous live video of Tim Thompson.
> It was Norton taken to a whole nother level.
> P.
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Tom Dill <djll at sonic.net> wrote:
>> There was a far too small house at the SFEMF last night. Yo peeps
>> shoulda been there for Gino's I, Norton presentation. Goddamn great
>> electronic music!!! and Tom Duff rocked the house, building light
>> castles and issuing proclamations for th' ages. And a profoundly
>> beautiful middle section of pure electronics, courtesy of Chris Brown,
>> Kristin Miltner, and Wobbly. I won't soon forget it.
>>
>> Wow, wow, wow.
>>
>> I feel sorry for you schmucks who didn't go. I drove 90 miles for it,
>> and it was worth every revolution of the wheels.
>>
>> td
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------
> http://pollymollerjournal.blogspot.com
> ------------------------------------------------------
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>





From mattdavignon at gmail.com  Tue Sep 29 08:54:37 2009
From: mattdavignon at gmail.com (Matt Davignon)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 08:54:37 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Carl Sagan music video
Message-ID: <c70e517b0909290854s59caa46blc123eb80b197fcf7@mail.gmail.com>

Autotuned, but it seems to work with Carl's trippy visuals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSgiXGELjbc

-- 
Matt Davignon
www.ribosomemusic.com
Rigs! www.youtube.com/user/ribosomematt

From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 09:53:21 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:53:21 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] cd keeper hub things
In-Reply-To: <cf60725f0909261224t7b70f0ddy25d71747d9e18695@mail.gmail.com>
References: <98e30a870909242257t3b53a2adw9e2ccca8158cceb3@mail.gmail.com>
	<B2BE10E8-BC19-47DA-9C04-AD73CCCD04CA@pamelaz.com>
	<cf60725f0909261224t7b70f0ddy25d71747d9e18695@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <98e30a870909300953m12419488nc8e51262dc4cf184@mail.gmail.com>

I finally got over to ARCH Supplies (99 Missouri St.). A totally cool place.
They in fact have to kinds of things to hold a cd in place, a plastic one
that is very secure and costs 25 cents each and a package of 40 black foam
rubber hubs for $4.50. Both work well for my project. They also have lots of
other kind of diy cd packaging options, including the natural recycled one.
Thanks Pamela Z. I had found some 5/8" carpet circles at Fox Hardware, but
the cds fell off them after about an hour.........

On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Joseph Zitt <jzitt at metatronpress.com>wrote:

> If these are the little hubs that, for example, OgreOgress uses, my
> experience is that they fail quite quickly, resulting in the CDs falling
> out
> and getting munged.
>
> On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Pamela Z <pamelaz at pamelaz.com> wrote:
>
> > ARCH plotters' supply in San Francisco has the little black rubbery
> > ones.
> >
> > pz
> >
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2009, at 10:57 PM, Bob Marsh wrote:
> >
> > > Does anyone know of a source for those springy center hub cd keeper
> > > things?
> > > Those plastic things, but only the plastic part.
> > > I am working on some diy releases and cutting up old paintings and
> > > painting
> > > plywood, etc.
> > > Setola di Maiale in Italy uses some, but I am hoping there are some
> > > in this
> > > country
> > >
> > > --
> > > Bob Marsh
> > > 475 43rd Street
> > > Richmond, CA 94805
> > > 510-236-2595 home
> > > 510-932-9268 cell
> > > www.bobmarsh.net
> > > www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
> > > www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
> > > www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
> > > www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
> > > www.myspace.com/mrhg80
> > > www.myspace.com/8vuit8
> > > www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
> > > www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
> >
> > Pamela Z
> > Composer/Performer
> >
> > pamelaz at pamelaz.com  |  415 861 EARS (415 861 3277)  |  mobile: 415
> > 5PAMELA (415 572 6352)  |  www.pamelaz.com
> >
> > (I sometimes forward my land line to my mobile.)
> >
> > http://www.pamelaz.com
> > http://www.myspace.com/pamelazcomposer
> > http://www.facebook.com/pamelazed
> > follow me at http://twitter.com/pamelaz
> >
> > Skype: pamelazed   iChat: pamelazdotcom (AIM)
> >
> > Snail Mail:
> > Pamela Z Productions
> > 540 Alabama Street Studio 213
> > San Francisco, CA 94110, USA
> >
> > shipping address (for packages larger than a 10" x 13" envelope):
> > Pamela Z  2440 Sixteenth Street  PMB #171, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> > NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> > http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Joseph Zitt :: The Path of the Bookseller :: blog.josephzitt.com
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus

From gino at rastascan.com  Wed Sep 30 10:59:19 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 10:59:19 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] free: 100s of cardboard CD sleeves
Message-ID: <C6E8EA87.3D09%gino@rastascan.com>

Hey you, the DIY-type!
I have a box of probably hundreds of cardboard CD covers. They're already
printed on, but YOU can overcome that with a bit of silkscreen or paint to
make your next CD or CD-R release something special.

Best of all, the box of treeware is FREE! Pick it up and it's yours. Contact
me offlist. 

The covers at this point look like this:
http://www.rastascan.com/catalog/brd030.html

Grazie tante,
ginorobair


From gino at rastascan.com  Wed Sep 30 11:05:07 2009
From: gino at rastascan.com (Gino Robair)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:05:07 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] Punk drum set for sale
Message-ID: <C6E8EBE3.3D0B%gino@rastascan.com>

I have a set of Ludwig drums for the '70s that I'd like to sell. All are
single headed for maximum punkness. But they are in great shape.
BD - 24"
Toms - 13" and 14"
Floor tom - 16"

Cymbal stand and hi-hat stand incl.

No snare, unfortunately.
Make me a (realistic) offer. Please.
Offlist, of course.

Mille grazie,
g


From 8vuit8 at gmail.com  Wed Sep 30 11:22:09 2009
From: 8vuit8 at gmail.com (Bob Marsh)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:22:09 -0700
Subject: [NewMusic] free: 100s of cardboard CD sleeves
In-Reply-To: <C6E8EA87.3D09%gino@rastascan.com>
References: <C6E8EA87.3D09%gino@rastascan.com>
Message-ID: <98e30a870909301122y55d4c378sa212cb05d283c085@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Gino,

How do I contact you off list to tell you that I want a bunch of those
covers?
The address I have for you bounced back.

Bob

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Gino Robair <gino at rastascan.com> wrote:

> Hey you, the DIY-type!
> I have a box of probably hundreds of cardboard CD covers. They're already
> printed on, but YOU can overcome that with a bit of silkscreen or paint to
> make your next CD or CD-R release something special.
>
> Best of all, the box of treeware is FREE! Pick it up and it's yours.
> Contact
> me offlist.
>
> The covers at this point look like this:
> http://www.rastascan.com/catalog/brd030.html
>
> Grazie tante,
> ginorobair
>
> _______________________________________________
> Bay Area New Music Discussion Group
> NewMusic at music.mills.edu
> http://music.mills.edu/mailman/listinfo/newmusic
>



-- 
Bob Marsh
475 43rd Street
Richmond, CA 94805
510-236-2595 home
510-932-9268 cell
www.bobmarsh.net
www.myspace.com/bobisadoctor
www.myspace.com/emergencystringxtet
www.myspace.com/yollesmarsh
www.myspace.com/desperateremedies
www.myspace.com/mrhg80
www.myspace.com/8vuit8
www.myspace.com/neufnineneuf
www.myspace.com/thespiritmovesus